Topic: Updated June 27: DT1-election: Rank up pipeline (Read 4572 times)

What about users that have between 500 and 1000 merit? Do they get 2 votes?

That's a lot more complicated than I thought it was

So essentially, Foxpup currently has 8 users with >250 merit trusting him. Of those 8 users, 5 have between 250 and 500 merit, and so get 1 vote in this category. 3 have >1000 earned merit, and get 4, 6 and 7 votes each respectively in this category. Foxpup needs a total of 2 votes from different users. It is conceivable that all these users' votes are currently being used on other members, and so there would be no free votes available to give to Foxpup. If a user is receiving more than 2 votes, then only 2 are counted and the others are redistributed to "people to whom the vote will be most useful". As far as I know, theymos has not given details of how this is calculated.

Can I ask what you mean by this? It seems like the only thing that would prevent you from being DT1 is if somebody took you off their trusted list, but maybe there's something I still don't understand...

Each user's number of "votes" in the last two criteria will be limited to floor(earned_merit / (10 or 250, depending on the criteria)). If you trust more people than your limit, then you will vote for the people to whom your vote will be the most useful, more-or-less.

What day is the drama new dt update scheduled for?

Barring an unlucky distribution of supervotes, it looks like I'm in line to become DT1. I think we all know who's going to be unhappy about that. And just when I thought the drama was finally starting to die down.

Says the guy who just bought and paid for the above avatar. You ain't fooling nobody with your fake exasperation!

Barring an unlucky distribution of supervotes

And just when I thought the drama was finally starting to die down.

Barring an unlucky distribution of supervotes

54. Foxpup (401 Merit earned) is included by 8 users with 250+ earned Merit and 2 users with 10-249 earned Merit.

DT1 Rank up pipeline
See loyce.club/trust/ranking for the list.

Just eyeballing since I can't do a quick diff on differently sorted lists but it looks like these users didn't get in, most likely due to inactivity:

79. hybridsole (DT1! (5) 146 Merit earned) is included by 1 users with 250+ earned Merit and 14 users with 10-249 earned Merit.

Just eyeballing since I can't do a quick diff on differently sorted lists but it looks like these users didn't get in, most likely due to inactivity:

If anyone cares to check how accurate my Rank up pipeline was, these were the candidates (last Saturday):

36. Zepher (81 Merit earned) is included by 12 users with 250+ earned Merit and 20 users with 10-249 earned Merit.
53. JohnUser (DT1! (1) 205 Merit earned) is included by 6 users with 250+ earned Merit and 11 users with 10-249 earned Merit.
55. BadBear (5 Merit earned) is included by 6 users with 250+ earned Merit and 14 users with 10-249 earned Merit.
62. Tomatocage (171 Merit earned) is included by 5 users with 250+ earned Merit and 18 users with 10-249 earned Merit.
63. TookDk (15 Merit earned) is included by 4 users with 250+ earned Merit and 9 users with 10-249 earned Merit.
68. hedgy73 (40 Merit earned) is included by 4 users with 250+ earned Merit and 10 users with 10-249 earned Merit.
70. malevolent (25 Merit earned) is included by 4 users with 250+ earned Merit and 6 users with 10-249 earned Merit.
73. monbux (18 Merit earned) is included by 3 users with 250+ earned Merit and 12 users with 10-249 earned Merit.

Both bones and Phil made it

1. LoyceV (DT1! (33) 2026 Merit earned) is included by 52 users with 250+ earned Merit and 42 users with 10-249 earned Merit.
2. theymos (DT1! (37) 4009 Merit earned) is included by 51 users with 250+ earned Merit and 107 users with 10-249 earned Merit.
3. suchmoon (DT1! (27) 1682 Merit earned) is included by 48 users with 250+ earned Merit and 43 users with 10-249 earned Merit.
4. hilariousandco (DT1! (29) 442 Merit earned) is included by 47 users with 250+ earned Merit and 43 users with 10-249 earned Merit.
5. Vod (DT1! (31) 1002 Merit earned) is included by 45 users with 250+ earned Merit and 43 users with 10-249 earned Merit.
6. The Pharmacist (DT1! (28) 1493 Merit earned) is included by 42 users with 250+ earned Merit and 32 users with 10-249 earned Merit.
7. DarkStar_ (DT1! (22) 620 Merit earned) is included by 37 users with 250+ earned Merit and 25 users with 10-249 earned Merit.
8. gmaxwell (DT1! (20) 1021 Merit earned) is included by 35 users with 250+ earned Merit and 27 users with 10-249 earned Merit.
9. Lauda (DT1! (17) 847 Merit earned) is included by 32 users with 250+ earned Merit and 47 users with 10-249 earned Merit.
10. qwk (DT1! (24) 843 Merit earned) is included by 28 users with 250+ earned Merit and 27 users with 10-249 earned Merit.
11. actmyname (DT1! (22) 424 Merit earned) is included by 25 users with 250+ earned Merit and 18 users with 10-249 earned Merit.
12. achow101 (DT1! (9) 1105 Merit earned) is included by 24 users with 250+ earned Merit and 14 users with 10-249 earned Merit.
13. Hhampuz (DT1! (15) 661 Merit earned) is included by 23 users with 250+ earned Merit and 30 users with 10-249 earned Merit.
14. philipma1957 (556 Merit earned) is included by 22 users with 250+ earned Merit and 26 users with 10-249 earned Merit.
15. Welsh (DT1! (14) 421 Merit earned) is included by 22 users with 250+ earned Merit and 8 users with 10-249 earned Merit.
16. Mitchell (DT1! (21) 202 Merit earned) is included by 21 users with 250+ earned Merit and 31 users with 10-249 earned Merit.
17. minerjones (532 Merit earned) is included by 21 users with 250+ earned Merit and 46 users with 10-249 earned Merit.
18. TMAN (DT1! (15) 865 Merit earned) is included by 21 users with 250+ earned Merit and 29 users with 10-249 earned Merit.
19. coinlocket$ (DT1! (16) 686 Merit earned) is included by 19 users with 250+ earned Merit and 19 users with 10-249 earned Merit.
20. Blazed (DT1! (19) 93 Merit earned) is included by 19 users with 250+ earned Merit and 44 users with 10-249 earned Merit.
21. OgNasty (DT1! (0) 588 Merit earned) is included by 19 users with 250+ earned Merit and 57 users with 10-249 earned Merit.
22. owlcatz (DT1! (17) 171 Merit earned) is included by 19 users with 250+ earned Merit and 23 users with 10-249 earned Merit.
23. ICOEthics (DT1! (16) 472 Merit earned) is included by 18 users with 250+ earned Merit and 21 users with 10-249 earned Merit.
24. xtraelv (DT1! (14) 1006 Merit earned) is included by 18 users with 250+ earned Merit and 11 users with 10-249 earned Merit.
25. krogothmanhattan (DT1! (12) 868 Merit earned) is included by 17 users with 250+ earned Merit and 26 users with 10-249 earned Merit.
26. Cyrus (DT1! (17) 100 Merit earned) is included by 17 users with 250+ earned Merit and 30 users with 10-249 earned Merit.
27. dooglus (126 Merit earned) is included by 16 users with 250+ earned Merit and 32 users with 10-249 earned Merit.
28. Lafu (DT1! (11) 411 Merit earned) is included by 16 users with 250+ earned Merit and 14 users with 10-249 earned Merit.
29. yahoo62278 (DT1! (10) 417 Merit earned) is included by 15 users with 250+ earned Merit and 14 users with 10-249 earned Merit.
30. cryptodevil (DT1! (10) 95 Merit earned) is included by 14 users with 250+ earned Merit and 7 users with 10-249 earned Merit.
31. o_e_l_e_o (DT1! (8) 1332 Merit earned) is included by 13 users with 250+ earned Merit and 3 users with 10-249 earned Merit.
32. iasenko (DT1! (9) 801 Merit earned) is included by 13 users with 250+ earned Merit and 2 users with 10-249 earned Merit.
33. yogg (DT1! (10) 302 Merit earned) is included by 13 users with 250+ earned Merit and 14 users with 10-249 earned Merit.
34. Coolcryptovator (DT1! (10) 542 Merit earned) is included by 12 users with 250+ earned Merit and 11 users with 10-249 earned Merit.
35. tmfp (DT1! (9) 242 Merit earned) is included by 12 users with 250+ earned Merit and 6 users with 10-249 earned Merit.
36. Zepher (81 Merit earned) is included by 12 users with 250+ earned Merit and 20 users with 10-249 earned Merit.
37. Jet Cash (DT1! (6) 1041 Merit earned) is included by 12 users with 250+ earned Merit and 8 users with 10-249 earned Merit.
38. EcuaMobi (DT1! (5) 230 Merit earned) is included by 11 users with 250+ earned Merit and 14 users with 10-249 earned Merit.
39. Lesbian Cow (DT1! (13) 248 Merit earned) is included by 11 users with 250+ earned Merit and 21 users with 10-249 earned Merit.
40. Alex_Sr (DT1! (9) 544 Merit earned) is included by 10 users with 250+ earned Merit and 21 users with 10-249 earned Merit.
41. bones261 (358 Merit earned) is included by 10 users with 250+ earned Merit and 2 users with 10-249 earned Merit.
42. KWH (33 Merit earned) is included by 10 users with 250+ earned Merit and 8 users with 10-249 earned Merit.
43. greenplastic (DT1! (9) 25 Merit earned) is included by 9 users with 250+ earned Merit and 20 users with 10-249 earned Merit.
44. monkeynuts (DT1! (13) 26 Merit earned) is included by 9 users with 250+ earned Merit and 14 users with 10-249 earned Merit.
45. dbshck (154 Merit earned) is included by 8 users with 250+ earned Merit and 2 users with 10-249 earned Merit.
46. asche (DT1! (9) 457 Merit earned) is included by 8 users with 250+ earned Merit and 14 users with 10-249 earned Merit.
47. sapta (DT1! (2) 151 Merit earned) is included by 8 users with 250+ earned Merit and 5 users with 10-249 earned Merit.
48. LFC_Bitcoin (490 Merit earned) is included by 8 users with 250+ earned Merit and 7 users with 10-249 earned Merit.
49. Halab (DT1! (6) 154 Merit earned) is included by 7 users with 250+ earned Merit and 10 users with 10-249 earned Merit.
50. TheNewAnon135246 (DT1! (10) 393 Merit earned) is included by 6 users with 250+ earned Merit and 9 users with 10-249 earned Merit.
51. taikuri13 (DT1! (5) 435 Merit earned) is included by 6 users with 250+ earned Merit and 19 users with 10-249 earned Merit.
52. SebastianJu (DT1! (8) 13 Merit earned) is included by 6 users with 250+ earned Merit and 19 users with 10-249 earned Merit.
53. JohnUser (DT1! (1) 205 Merit earned) is included by 6 users with 250+ earned Merit and 11 users with 10-249 earned Merit.
54. bill gator (DT1! (5) 438 Merit earned) is included by 6 users with 250+ earned Merit and 6 users with 10-249 earned Merit.
55. BadBear (5 Merit earned) is included by 6 users with 250+ earned Merit and 14 users with 10-249 earned Merit.
56. LeGaulois (DT1! (5) 478 Merit earned) is included by 6 users with 250+ earned Merit and 6 users with 10-249 earned Merit.
57. Dabs (DT1! (2) 118 Merit earned) is included by 6 users with 250+ earned Merit and 7 users with 10-249 earned Merit.
58. DdmrDdmr (1846 Merit earned) is included by 5 users with 250+ earned Merit and 9 users with 10-249 earned Merit.
59. phantastisch (DT1! (3) 237 Merit earned) is included by 5 users with 250+ earned Merit and 14 users with 10-249 earned Merit.
60. 1miau (443 Merit earned) is included by 5 users with 250+ earned Merit and 5 users with 10-249 earned Merit.
61. BitcoinPenny (DT1! (5) 245 Merit earned) is included by 5 users with 250+ earned Merit and 20 users with 10-249 earned Merit.
62. Tomatocage (171 Merit earned) is included by 5 users with 250+ earned Merit and 18 users with 10-249 earned Merit.
63. TookDk (15 Merit earned) is included by 4 users with 250+ earned Merit and 9 users with 10-249 earned Merit.
64. theyoungmillionaire (DT1! (3) 604 Merit earned) is included by 4 users with 250+ earned Merit and 9 users with 10-249 earned Merit.
65. chimk (256 Merit earned) is included by 4 users with 250+ earned Merit and 21 users with 10-249 earned Merit.
66. vizique (DT1! (7) 83 Merit earned) is included by 4 users with 250+ earned Merit and 18 users with 10-249 earned Merit.
67. TECSHARE (DT1 (-2) 191 Merit earned) is included by 4 users with 250+ earned Merit and 17 users with 10-249 earned Merit.
68. hedgy73 (40 Merit earned) is included by 4 users with 250+ earned Merit and 10 users with 10-249 earned Merit.
69. HostFat (DT1 (-4) 78 Merit earned) is included by 4 users with 250+ earned Merit and 19 users with 10-249 earned Merit.
70. malevolent (25 Merit earned) is included by 4 users with 250+ earned Merit and 6 users with 10-249 earned Merit.
71. MaoChao (59 Merit earned) is included by 4 users with 250+ earned Merit and 13 users with 10-249 earned Merit.
72. TheFuzzStone (DT1 (-2) 232 Merit earned) is included by 4 users with 250+ earned Merit and 33 users with 10-249 earned Merit.
73. monbux (18 Merit earned) is included by 3 users with 250+ earned Merit and 12 users with 10-249 earned Merit.
74. zazarb (DT1 (-3) 482 Merit earned) is included by 2 users with 250+ earned Merit and 16 users with 10-249 earned Merit.
75. ezeminer (88 Merit earned) is included by 2 users with 250+ earned Merit and 13 users with 10-249 earned Merit.
76. WhiteManWhite (DT1 (-1) 54 Merit earned) is included by 2 users with 250+ earned Merit and 11 users with 10-249 earned Merit.
77. bL4nkcode (127 Merit earned) is included by 2 users with 250+ earned Merit and 9 users with 10-249 earned Merit.

Can we get an extra "trust button [DT Trust: 0: -0 / +0]" instead of adding ";dt to the end of URL"?

Seriously though, the "not including merit you yourself sent" rule - or rather you ignoring it - is skewing things a lot, at least for me.

1. LoyceV (DT1! (33) 1951 Merit earned)
2. DdmrDdmr (1796 Merit earned)
3. Last of the V8s (1361 Merit earned)
4. The Pharmacist (DT1! (28) 1469 Merit earned)
5. o_e_l_e_o (DT1! ( 1235 Merit earned)
6. Jet Cash (DT1! (6) 1019 Merit earned)
7. Vod (DT1! (31) 987 Merit earned)
8. xtraelv (DT1! (14) 1005 Merit earned)
9. Lauda (DT1! (17) 835 Merit earned)
10. TMAN (DT1! (15) 864 Merit earned)

You should sort by 10s when 250s are equal, that way you'll get back to the top since you have more 10s.

86. Gunthar (DT1! (4) 84 Merit earned) is included by 6 users with 250+ earned Merit and 3 users with 10-249 earned Merit.

Something's wrong with my ranking: suchmoon overtook me
I think the oldest account comes first when users have the same number of inclusions at 250+ Merit.

So if someone has you on the trust list with 12 merits and you gave them 3, their vote cannot go to you for the 10 merit level.

See, it's not just me.  I'm still now sure how you ended up on my distrust list, and now that I'm getting closer 250 I find myself liking you more and more. 

It must be the merit sauce...  I like it dry, with two olives. 

People with less than 250 merit don't like me.  

Disclaimer: I think that I explained it to you properly. However, I'm still quite a bit confused by it as well.

It’s all very complicated, I’m not desperate to get onto DT1. It wouldn’t change me much as a poster. I’d still contribute in the same way I have since 2014.

Probably. You will need to maintain the following thresholds.
10 votes from people with 10+ merits. You have 15. However, votes only go to the people who most need it if the person has more than 1 person per 10 merit on their custom trust list.
2 votes from people with 250+ merits. You have 9. However, votes only go to the people who most need it if the person has more than 1 person per 250 merit on their custom trust list.
If you make it to the DT1 list. Then the number of other DT1 members who have you on the trust list must exceed or be equal to the number that distrust you. If more distrust you, then you are not DT1, until that changes.


Just so you know, you are already on DT2 because Bill gator has you on his trust list and he is DT1.

You're meeting the minimum requirements for DT1. The only unknown is the limited number of "votes", so it depends on who else is on the trust lists of people who include you. With nine 250+ users you should be in good shape but the vote distribution logic is a bit of a mystery to me so don't blame me if I gave you false hope.

BTW you're in DT already, DT2 that is.

Where does this put me, anybody shed some light on it? Will I be on DT with the next update?

40. LFC_Bitcoin (455 Merit earned) is included by 9 users with 250+ earned Merit and 6 users with 10-249 earned Merit

Where does this put me, anybody shed some light on it? Will I be on DT with the next update?

40. LFC_Bitcoin (455 Merit earned) is included by 9 users with 250+ earned Merit and 6 users with 10-249 earned Merit

Congrats.

Want some cold water on that? It all depends on how many votes these users have and how many other users they trust and how those votes will get distributed. But seeing that you only need 2 votes from 250s and you have 9 of them... meaning 7 of them have tons of 10-merit votes for you so your chances are good. Not guaranteed but looking really good.

Looks like I am moving up the list. 

41. bones261 (331 Merit earned) is included by 9 users with 250+ earned Merit and 1 users with 10-249 earned Merit.

Y U DOX ME AGAIN?!

On the bright side - I seem to have lost weight.

~

i think some of those 250 merit people count towards your 10 merit , so you are actually a few clicks away from entering the worst part of DT drama, i don't know about you but if i was ever put on DT1 list i will probably reduce my trust list to 9 to get off DT1, being on DT2 is already enough stress and drama and i can only imagine that it gets worse when not only your feedback counts but your trust list too.

I find it quite interesting that many users have 2+ 250-merit votes but not nearly enough 10-merit votes. I would have expected the opposite.

~snip

Below are the ones who seem to have enough 250-merit votes but need 10-merit votes (36 users):

-snip
86. bones261 (321 Merit earned) is included by 8 users with 250+ earned Merit and 0 users with 10-249 earned Merit.

But it looks like it isn't calculated this way, otherwise everyone would have at least the same number of 10-Merit votes as he has 250-Merit votes, so I assume every account can only vote one time for another account either it's 250 Merit or 10 Merit.

There are indeed a few users who have enough 250-votes, but not enough 10-votes to reach a total of 10, but in most cases they lack 250 Merit votes.

78. 1miau (352 Merit earned) is included by 5 users with 250+ earned Merit and 4 users with 10-249 earned Merit.

Seriously though, the "not including merit you yourself sent" rule - or rather you ignoring it - is skewing things a lot, at least for me. According to DdmrDdmr's thingy I have 42 250-votes, not 49.

A vote of 250 Merit is equal to 25 votes of 10 Merit and it doesn't reflect in the table from LoyceV.

Each user's number of "votes" in the last two criteria will be limited to floor(earned_merit / (10 or 250, depending on the criteria)). If you trust more people than your limit, then you will vote for the people to whom your vote will be the most useful, more-or-less.

People with less than 250 merit don't like me.  

It's a complete coincidence that I'm now on top of the list I didn't design it for that

86. bones261 (321 Merit earned) is included by 8 users with 250+ earned Merit and 0 users with 10-249 earned Merit.

1. LoyceV (1848 Merit earned) is included by 51 users with 250+ earned Merit and 39 users with 10-249 earned Merit.

Can you explain your sorting process? It's obviously initially ordered by number of 250+ votes, but then not by number of 10+ votes? With a separate section for users with less than 10 votes overall, and then another separate section for users with no 250+ votes?

ranking 2 2 10
ranking 2 1 10
ranking 2 2 9
ranking 2 1 9
ranking 2 2 8
ranking 2 1 8
ranking 1 1 10
ranking 2 2 7
ranking 2 1 7
ranking 1 1 9
ranking 2 2 6
ranking 2 1 6
ranking 1 1 8
ranking 2 2 5
ranking 2 1 5
ranking 1 1 7
ranking 2 2 4
ranking 2 1 4
ranking 1 1 6
ranking 2 2 3
ranking 2 1 3
ranking 1 1 5
ranking 2 2 2
ranking 2 1 2
ranking 1 1 4
ranking 2 1 1
ranking 1 1 3
ranking 1 1 2
ranking 1 1 1
ranking 1 0 1

I think maybe an easier way would be to list current DT1 members separately, and then all others in a different table by number of 250+ votes?

I may make a rankup list someday

I have 4 updates planned
2. I'd like to highlight users who are close to DT1, say with 8 or 9 out of 10 inclusions

- If rank was determined solely using earned merit, then you must be of at least Member rank.
- You must have been online sometime within the last 3 days.
- Your trust list must include at least 10 users, not including ~distrust entries. (I think 9 + DefaultTrust qualifies too)
- You must not be banned or manually blacklisted from selection.
- You must have posted sometime within the last 30 days.
- You must have at least 10 people directly trusting you each with an earned merit of at least 10, not including merit you yourself sent. These "votes" are limited.
- You must have at least 2 people directly trusting you with an earned merit of at least 250, not including merit you yourself sent. These "votes" are limited.

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