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Topic: URGENT & BEWARE: Sophisticated Telegram Scammers (Read 173 times)

legendary
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I've also made a thread similar to this about sometime ago and it is really something to worry about. Great that you have made this thread to create some awareness.


I would also like to add something:

Add ..@userinfobot.. on Telegram. What it does is that it gives the Unique User ID and details when a message is forwarded to it.

Interacting with /start will give you your details and your Unique User ID which you can make it public and ask them to verify* using the bot if they are having with the actual person or an impersonator.

How to verify*?- Simply just forward one of their message to the bot and it will give you all the details of that person along with Unique User ID

Here are some screenshots:

(a) Getting my own details with /start



(b) Getting details of a user who contacted me by forwarding the message to the bot. Just testing it out with my temporary telegram account I made to help you getting an idea.




Hope ^it^ helps. Just passing on some useful things which I saw being put on by someone here (actmyname was I guess)..
full member
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Probably the best warning and instruction on how not to get scammed, members here are right this should be in pin on sections and categories that are dealing with a telegram, the best advice, and all veterans are telling ever since is to communicate here first and verified the conversation, that's the best way to endure that you are dealing with the right guy, failed to do this and you'll get scam.
I support the idea that this post is going to be pinned, the other warnings are a little outdated in my opinion, the scammers are slowly getting the loop behind the old so now we have to change the tactics. The problem with communication is that the newbies do not know who they should be trusting in these process. I knew that these scammers are going to upgrade their modus operandi because the other users have been actively preaching their previous MO, although not to worry as most of their MO is just upgraded and they can still be detected if as OP says, we remain vigilant.
legendary
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Probably the best warning and instruction on how not to get scammed, members here are right this should be in pin on sections and categories that are dealing with a telegram, the best advice, and all veterans are telling ever since is to communicate here first and verified the conversation, that's the best way to endure that you are dealing with the right guy, failed to do this and you'll get scam.
copper member
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Limited in number. Limitless in potential.
When dealing anyone using telegram always ask the other party to message your bitcointalk profile for confirmation purposes.

People in collectibles section are most veterans in regards of dealing any user new or old ones. So far never seen anyone there got scammed by merely newbie or whatever. Except in goods/digital boards, these section have lots of scammers to be aware of.
copper member
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Can you edit the request to be posted in Hardware/Digital goods too?
I think its happening more in hardware then collectibles.

Done
hero member
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Can you edit the request to be posted in Hardware/Digital goods too?
I think its happening more in hardware then collectibles.
legendary
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Gamble responsibly
  • Ensure your Telegram username does not match your name on Bitcointalk. It only takes a moment to change your username!
There is nothing bad for your telegram name to match your bitcointalk username, one has no harm on another if you protect each account very well.
jr. member
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Fraudulent people everywhere thinking of ways to defraud people who are ignorant of their ways. Thank you for bringing enlightenment with your post, this has really helped me and I know it would be helpful to a lot out there.
copper member
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I've been asked by several members to:

- Repost this in Meta
- Request that this be pinned in Collectibles, Hardware & Digital Goods (it's been posted in all 3 now)

Original thread: https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/urgent-beware-sophisticated-telegram-scammers-5322537

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All,

Highly-sophisticated (and probably organized) scammers are closely monitoring the Collectibles section and targeting members of this forum via Telegram, and everyone needs to be aware and vigilant.

From what I have observed thus far, these sophisticated scammers fit the following profile:

Scammer Profile

  • Use actual names of the forum members they are purporting to be; e.g. they will create a Telegram account with the name "blucepheus" and identify themselves as such
  • Reference other items for sale by that individual so as to seem more legitimate; "take a look at my others items also -- here are some pics"
  • Aware of current auctions and listings in this forum, and conversations that are occurring within each thread; they look for opportunities to "piggy back" off of a conversation so as to seem legitimate
  • Well-versed in the terminology we use and processes we employ, such as escrow, in the Collectibles section
  • Well-versed in the names and nicknames of our escrows, e.g. they will refer to minerjones as 'MJ'
  • Knowledgeable in crypto and can "talk the talk"; they will make smalltalk discussing various types of collectibles and interests so as to build trust and rapport
  • May spread the conversation out over multiple days so as not to spook you
  • Use a lot of emojis to lighten the conversation and build trust
  • Once they receive BTC to the wallet address specified, may instantly vanish and delete the conversation
  • Once they are spooked (e.g. you call them out, or inform them you want to move the conversation to PM), will do the same

Members of this forum, newbies especially, are falling victim to these scams on a weekly if not daily basis, and are being scammed out of significant amounts of Bitcoin. The more members that fall for it, the more motivated this group will be to grow in size and in the sophistication of the techniques they employ.

They are ruthless. In fact, they exploited a member of this forum just today out of $1,500 in BTC in a charity auction.

Tips for Protecting Yourself

  • Ensure your Telegram username does not match your name on Bitcointalk. It only takes a moment to change your username!
  • Don't use Telegram for any communication pertaining to Collectibles transactions. If approached by someone purporting to be a member of this forum, request they contact you via PM
  • Use a trusted escrow from this forum, and only communicate with the escrow via PM, not Telegram
  • If a deal seems too good to be true, it is
  • Do not provide personal identifying information via Telegram, including your real name and/or address
  • Validate the identity of the person you are chatting with on Telegram, even if they are not approaching you about an immediate transaction. They may engage in casual conversation over days, weeks or months before finally asking if you'd like to purchase something. You may then find out that they were never who you thought they were
  • SLOW DOWN. Do not impulsively send someone BTC. If you look close enough and take time to reflect, there are red flags despite the sophistication of these scammers

And since I know these scammers will be reading this message within the next minute:

F*%$ off. We're smarter than you, and we'll prove it.

Hold your BTC tight, and remain vigilant.

-bc
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