Topic: Urgent Warning: Gamdom fake unlicensed copy of games/ false Terms and Services (Read 988 times)

See Gamdom CEO

he fails to even keep his promises

whatsapp coversations and telegram i have all evidential proof ... they stole my 20000$ and ban my account

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5408175.new#new

The OP has not returned to post here with any wallet addresses which can be checked to calculate exactly how much he sent or received in his transactions with Gamdom. To a degree, he has been too vague on certain explanations and at the same time he has been over elaborative on others explanations. He comes across as being evasive and not open enough and not focused enough. Also the delay in him posting here regularly along with his lack of clarity has been detrimental to his cause and his claim.

At the same time, Gamdom have not provided their bitcoin hot wallet address therefore cannot prove it was empty at the time of the withdrawal attempt. Gamdom have not provided evidence in the form of a bitcoin wallet address to show they paid the OP $20,000 as compensation which was withdrawn immediately. By Gamdom sharing selective screenshots which do not even show 100% of a defence (proving events which they claim actually took place) is either incompetence on their part or a clever ploy to try to hide the full facts.

If Gamdom are not willing to defend themselves against serious scam allegations by engaging in the forum providing evidence to dispute what the OP is saying then anybody depositing funds or playing at Gamdom must consider the bigger picture. And that is if you ever make an allegation against Gamdom do not expect them to try to clear their name with verifiable evidence. Gamdom will never post here using an official account and will post screenshots that do not prove their case, yet will dispute they are scammers.

As Gamdom have no intention to clear their name against serious scam allegation by providing proof they are innocent, they cannot be trusted.

As the OP has claimed he has an unexpected medical condition this might or might not be the reason he has all of a sudden stopped posting here but on the evidence he provided it is not enough to prove he was scammed. His claim of a scam cannot be trusted 100% either because of lack of explanation and lack of evidence.

Time to unwatch, this is my last post in this thread.

This is disgusting case. Reason I would never play at Gamdom.

I am very sorry to hear about the medical condition. I sincerely wish you the best of health.

ONE:
TWO: Between your quotes ONE and TWO above, can you clarify which is correct and if you say both are correct can you at least explain the contradiction on how you said "never got paid out" and at the same time accept you received and "withdrew $2000"?

Can you also post the wallet addresses that you used to send funds to Gamdom, this is in order calculate all the deposits you made to them with date and time stamps.

What cannot be disputed by Gamdom are two very important comments they have made. First is they claimed they deposited $20,000 which "you withdrew instantly" but they have not provided a wallet address or transaction id as proof. Second, Gamdom also never provided their hot wallet address which they claim was empty at the time of your withdrawal attempts.

As it was Gamdom that made those claims they should provide evidence to back it up to defend their reputation and they have not, therefore I cannot accept their claim in blind faith and I am not sure many here will either until they provide substantial evidence.

I cannot speak for others but as of yet I have not seen enough evidence from yourself or Gamdom to say conclusively that a scam took place. I hope things become much more clear in the coming days.

Sorry for my absence. Had some devastating news and couldn’t be bothered with the arguments online. I signed in via email to check private mails I had but never made the effort to check the comments.  I appreciate your patience.  If you’re a male in your 30s, check your balls. If you notice something, book an appointment don’t put it off. .  

Anyways - dispute the withdrawals-
The withdrawals,  ($28, $1000, $1000, $10,000, $20,000 and final one $150)
My deposits were in USD and fluctuating amount; yet the apparent withdrawal always to the point? “$20,000 as opposed to $19,943 which my $20,000 shows as. I’d also point out how random the time frames of “withdraw requests” are in relation to my deposits, either within 30 secondsa deposit  or a few hours after gameplay deposits/
In relation to the withdraws I accept;
$2000 paid by VIP host Wayne.  Not $20,000 Felix claims, nor $5000 the VIP host claimed he was going to and only gave $2000. Due to my account not receiving the correct bonuses, attached proof of every bonus on account as supplied by Wayne the VIP host.  

I’ve been massively lucky on lil devil, multiple times.  It’s a game that will go nuts when it wants too;
I’ve had pragmatic bonuses return 2400x multiple times too, I’ve had 4321x on both Gates and Starlight.  The games run by scripts, game codes; it’s not uncommon to get the same return in percentage when you play these games the amounts I do.   (100s of thousands of spins on each of my favourite games.  I’d say Bonanaza - another huge multiplyer potential - I’ve had well over a million.   Had 6900x multiple times like it’s trolling me.  

Gamdom support wouldn’t acknowledge and pass off a win on another website if it didn’t happen on their site.  They simply state that it’s out of there reach, and out of their control, yet they then decide to lower it and also claim that was for another reason.  

Only the game I accuse them off btw.  All other games run to potentials, just not the one I hit (on Gamdom), and my conversations back this up.  
They have my play history; which is why they stated the other games I played haven’t changed. Only lil devil.

It is an interesting piece of information, thank you.

The OP has gone uncharacteristically quiet ever since I asked him to confirm whether the details given in the images by Gamdom for deposits/withdrawals was correct but when he posts a reply it will be put forward to him to make a statement about the image you posted.

Game Lil Devil by Big Time Gaming user account StonedTwat

I already asked the OP to confirm or contest the data in the images provided by Gamdom. Considering he has been very vocal in this thread, it is strange to see he has gone quiet since I asked him to state his position. He has logged in several times but has not posted a response.

Can you provide a link?

Maybe OP refer to this screenshot https://postimg.cc/SYNkZ7f8 posted here indeed the winning balance is not included in the deposit/withdrawal transaction list
It's just that I don't know whether this screenshot is real or fake because OP gets almost the same win in another casino. Username, base bet, multiplier, game provider is almost the same https://imgur.com/Ohzpl0y  The current balance estimation is different because the price of BTC is down.

Yes, that was very clear, but since the owner of Gamdom (i.e. Felix) doesn't want to respond directly and using a messenger then I was referring to Felix through his messenger, and by all means not implying Yahoo is the problem here.

Felix claims the OP never had $200k balance in his account, the OP claims the opposite - who's right? Like you and like JollyGood said I'm only interested in the bottom line here, without all the dust behind it.

I thought it would be clear by now to anyone who has read this thread that yahoo62278 isn't a Gamdom casino representative or part of their team. He managed their signature campaign on this forum. How can he explain what has happened to an account and the balance of a player?

No, not according to yahoo62278. You need to pay more attention to what is being said. Yahoo spoke with the casino's owner and the owner is the person who claims OP never had $200k in his account, not yahoo62278. Yahoo only copied what the owner told him. 

I would advise you just as I did earlier, take things easy and relax because you keep saying you did not mean to come across as one thing but keep doing it.

Also, refrain from writing walls upon walls of text again and again because like me many are probably skipping past huge parts without reading them as it is almost impossible to fully understand what you write. I think this is down to you not articulating yourself in a manner that can be understood.

Check the two images below. Do not write a wall of text, keep your answer short and clearly state if these are every single deposit and withdrawal between yourself and Gamdom. Check the dates and times and amounts and so on.

As for you saying your accumulative BTC balance is not showing in the images, I noticed that too along with other information but leave that aside for a moment and take this process step-by-step:

- Which transactions do you dispute (and say either never took place or the BTC amounts are wrong)?
- Were there other deposits/withdrawals not listed in those images?

Thank you for posting their official stance. Here are the images:




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After checking your account; I’ll attest you’re not a bot.
I won’t be negative towards you anymore I thought you was a scam account

Fair enough then.
@yahoo62278 - can you explain what happened to the $220k balance?

According to you, Yahoo:


One of you is lying, one of you is telling the truth.

Without BSing this thread with nonsense - who is telling the truth here?

The “screenshots” show “deposits and withdrawals” not balance amounts.
The btc price you’re seeing is the price of btc at time of deposits. Not balance

I'm not against you, first of all, and I want the right thing to be done here. The "official" response from Gamdom is these 2 screenshots (links above) - they don't show $220k so are they lying?

7+15= 22
70,000 + 150,000 = 220,000.

No one got paid using your false service stop commenting.

OP, why did you initially claim you had a $200k balance in the site whilst in fact this is wrong?

I do indeed actually read” A reply of yours, quoted below, was deleted by the starter of a self-moderated topic. There are no rules of self-moderation, so this deletion cannot be appealed. Do not continue posting in this topic if the topic-starter has requested that you leave.”


I read that and thought what’s being hidden.

I didn’t check the thread dates to see if you had edited, cleaned up your thread, or as the message indicated to me that I read, deleted the post.  This is why I brought it to the attention of others.
I’ve made no accusations against you in the way you have to me, ive not displayed any hostility against you as a person so what’s the issue with me my dude?

If I annoy the piss out of you, imagine the body fluids you’d loose if this disgusting exploitation would occur against you.

Not sure why you’re so upset though.  Gamdom kept their word and  actually paid you for pushing their exploiting casino to the public.  

Terms of service exploitation from the casino side is a big no no

Do you actually read? Seriously, you're starting to aggravate the piss outta me with your constant accusations. I deleted your goddamn post in my managers thread but quoted it and other replies before deleting them. They're still there but in 1 post so I could delete some trash in my thread.

I like that BitCoinTalk tells you when your posts are deleted. 
What’s being hidden here?
The reply in which the owner claims I was paid and compensated?
Sus
https://postimg.cc/ZWLPZxQk/655dbef4

I wasn’t trying to be rude or create an argument. 
Was just pointing out that they do have live chat, but it is rather new and like the whole site entirely buggy.
I’m not sure if their email address is monitored or manned,   I think the website just uses the same buggy scripts that they use for withdrawal attempts -
I’ve had a couple vague replies and a whole lot of nothing else. Lol

Thank you Yahoo.



> “This can all be easily verified and I’ll challenge him to message providers. The guy is just trying to ruin our reputation”

Easily verified?  
Never adjusted any potential outcome?
Verify it then. Because I’ve verified the opposite.; “It didn’t change because of your huge win it is another reason” “Gamdom don’t set it provider does” have you even seen the proof against you?
Why did this only affect at Gamdom, and no other website?
What was the reason for the change in max cap if it wasn’t coincidental against me?
Why claim now, there’s never been adjustment yet it’s proven, “out of Gamdoms hands, but provider changed it”

>

“He had to wait 36h for a withdrawal”
Hold on, I thought I withdrew the money the next day? Do you even remember your own answers you’ve given?
IF this was the case, where was I told? why does none of my contact with support mention this 36h wait while the “hot wallet was filled” instead the only mention about wallets is your staff stating “we’ve had streamers empty our wallets right now they’re being reloaded now” not once did anyone state “our owner isn’t actually here now, and all btc transfer runs through him please wait until he’s back”… “sorry, wallets won’t be filled until after the weekend due to owner being away” or why wasn’t I told “self exclude yourself until our owner is back with funds. You will not be able to withdraw until Monday”.  
 You’re mentioning this “holiday” now due to people asking for the hot wallet address. So they could have seen for themselves that your wallets weren’t emptied by streamers hitting millions. But left empty to stop winners from withdrawing.   And your accounts remained empty over the weekend due to you being away and not streamers hitting big and emptying the accounts.  
Could you please provide the address, correct address, for checking.  

*Proof there was no 20k in “compensation” bonuses. Not even $20k  IN TOTAL rewards over my entire account. Let alone any “compensation” claim.  Stop with the lies unless you’re backing them up Felix.
https://postimg.cc/JHRGtgVr/d5b09025

“He was given around 20k of rewards after which he instantly withdrew”
Absolutely shameless false claims.  This is the ruin you cause suicides (I didn’t mention I was going to kill myself - I said your exploits lead people to commit suicide.  My actions haven’t been wrong, you coming back with further already proven lies.  

Read the accusations against you, check the proof already put up, then come back with your facts Felix.


> “He had maybe an issue once but here are transactions”

Exploited by keep taking deposits, after stating to lock accounts for failed kyc.   Problem 1
BTC balance low, system notified.  Problem 2
Support repeatedly  telling me, “wallets were being filled up now” - whilst they wasn’t for over 36hours. Problem 3
Game potential changed after hitting. Problem 4
Live support lying to me, “Gamdom don’t control this” , “it isn’t against you it’s another reason”. Problem 5


Final question; are they the total deposits on total site over the weekend?

I didn't see the live chat button yesterday when I wrote my previous post in this thread, but there is one now. Maybe Live chat isn't a feature that is available around the clock, hence I couldn't contact them yesterday. Since yahoo62278 has now shared the casino's side of the story, it makes no sense for me to contact one of the live chat representatives and ask them to do the same. I have also not received a reply for the email I sent yesterday.

OK, as promised I wouldn't reply here until I had an official response from Gamdom.

Regarding their games and the claim of them being unlicensed copies, Felix's reply is below.

You can comment here simply that all our games are fetched from Hub88 and we don`t have any copies of games or ever adjusted any potential outcomes, this can all be easily verified and I`ll challenge him to message providers, the guy is just trying to ruin our reputation.


Regarding the scam accusation,

> Felix .:
he deposited roughly 120k, he never had over 200k balance, he had to wait 36h for a withdrawal so he lost initial moneys of what he had and then later deposited like another 100k and lost it, we were low on btc balance in the hot wallet at that time and I was traveling so I couldn't refill. He was given around $20k in rewards after which he instantly withdrew, no strings attached. We banned his account because he made it seem like he is going to kill himself and we didn`t want to have such a player on the website

> Felix .:
he had maybe an issue once but here are all his transactions

https://gyazo.com/f676763bca66bade51988474cc30b99d

https://gyazo.com/67a527c67ef9b5fd72ea07d98db70665

This is Gamdom's official stance on the case.

I too believe that this part needs more explanation (hopefully from Gamdom's or BigTime Gaming's side).

Here are the official Lil Devil GAME STATS from the BigTime Gaming website:

source: https://www.bigtimegaming.com/games/lil-devil

The same RTP can also be seen when we click on the "game info" icon on the Gamdom website:


source: https://cf-iomeu-cdn.relaxg.com/casino/games/lildevil/help/relax/LilDevil-Help-EN.html

So, the only place where the game shows a lower RTP (95.73%) is Gamdom's description below the game. I have no idea where that discrepancy comes from, but I assume that it is under the control of Gamdom casino. In light of this, I find it strange that Matt from support, upon being requested by the player, first claimed
"> Matt (02:50:47): Max potential is not decided by Gamdom though, it's decided by the Slot provider itself."
And then, two minutes later, stated:
"> Matt (02:52:16): The potential on that slot actually did not change because of you winning huge in it though, it's another case."

Of course, the information I have is not conclusive, but I find this very suspicious. Why would casino change default RTP and Jackpot Win Potential set by the game provider for just one specific game, and what's the "other case" that caused the change?

Really appreciate the time you’ve taken to respond to all these messages;
I also appreciate your stance on how you would have approached it yourself;

For the purpose of transparency these are the messages I sent to Yahoo;

“April 28th Hi,

My allegation against scamdom is from December - you’re right :
since I’ve not been able to withdraw since December.
I was the one to point this out, multiple times since many accounts saying “it’s not been 24 hours” / “give it 24 hours” / “allow time for wallet to fill”
Kept being told be patient were looking into this;

What can be said about Gamdom suspiciously changing its jackpot win potential on Lil Devil from 36,000x all the way down to 1336x ?! Whilst still allowing 36,000x potential on Final Countdown.  10,000x on White Rabbit. Etc etc.

Again, screenshots provided.  Check Imgur.

I understand you’ve built relationships with these people, but understand that I’ve been patient. I’ve waited, and subsequently been robbed of all winnings and my deposit since they won’t reinstate my win. 

Game paid fairly and was no foul play, balance was credited to my account. 

I’ve argued for my deposits back. Not even winnings. I literally asked for my own money back since I didn’t trust the activities I experienced on the site.  I was blocked by Gamdom for seeking advice from Ayzee and watchGamesTV (twitch streamers if you’re not aware)

If this isn’t fishy to you. You’re either paid by Gamdom and don’t wish to interfere due to your own contract agreements, then that’s fine.  But everything is backed up. 

All the times I’ve been ignored or told “moderators are checking into this” what would you do?    If there was people in there physical offices I’d have went there in January since a month is more than enough.  Honestly what would you do?   Allow i“

Along with pictures backing claims ^

“ Gamdom are scammers 100% … I’m curious why you’ve not added Gamdom to your current list of completed campaigns or running campaigns?”

“I contacted Ayezee as I signed using his affiliate and he confirmed to me he has issues and this is the reason he left Gamdom when he did.  Couldn’t withdraw large winnings.  Posted private conversations to Twitter to which Gamdom blocked me.”

- no replies from Yahoo, which is fair enough since he doesn’t need to. I wanted to clear up facts as I was ignored during my DM here.


May 6th;

“ > StonedTwat (02:50:19): If Gamdom wasn’t purposefully denying players
> of wins; why was this game manipulated and now altered to a max potential
> of 1,338x ?
> Matt (02:50:47): Max potential is not decided by Gamdom though, it's
> decided by the Slot provider itself.
> Matt (02:50:53): We have no control over it
> StonedTwat (02:51:10): That’s nonsense. The slot provider allows
> 100,560 x
> StonedTwat (02:51:22): same as your other BTG titles.
> Matt (02:52:16): The potential on that slot actually did not change
> because of you winning huge in it though, it's another case.
> StonedTwat (02:52:24): My vip manager shouldn’t be “filling”
> my wallets? My withdrawal should pend or I should be added to withdrawal
> address upon withdrawal request.
>
> This conversation doesn’t leave Gamdom much legitimacy in its false
> claims.
> StonedTwat (02:52:47): So, Gamdom has no control?
> StonedTwat (02:53:05): now you’re telling me there’s a different
> reason the slot has changed ??
> StonedTwat (02:53:55): This game showed potential of 36,000 same as
> other BTG titles on Gamdom only after winning was it now altered and
> you say Gamdom isn’t rigged against players?
> Matt (02:55:46): You were also playing on madam destiny & fruit party2
> & christmas bigbass bonanza & 5lionsgold etc, did all these slots change
> the multiplier? no, it was only on lil' devil, it was a random coincidence,
> it was not targeted towards you or anything like you think”

- followed by;

“ Finally replied about my 15,000x that was taken away
4 month investigation to come back with “random coincidence your other games are ok”

Also sent pictures to back those claims ^

Final message May 18th : “ Further proof Gamdom are exploiting players.
BitcoinForum seem to be waiting for you to make a comment on it”

The above was my final contact with Yahoo outside of BitCoinTalk.   And now that I realise that campaign managers aren’t the voice of the casino in forum, I stated “BitcoinForum seem to be waiting for you to make a comment on it”.    I made this statement thinking Yahoo was Gamdoms spokesperson.

In your opinion it is a little rant but others might see it differently and your little rant will not be excused by everybody reading this thread.

We all read and in most part understand your version of events but right now I am more interested in finding out what Gamdom have to say on this subject because until then I will find it difficult to accept 100% your accusations partly because of the lack of clarity and confusion in your earlier posts. I sympathise with you, I am sure others do too but you should calm down and appreciate any and all help you can get here and at the same time do not get frustrated with those that question you or do not believe you. Do not alienate yourself from those that trying to help you or support you.

From what I read, I think he contacted Gamdom about your situation and was told they owed you nothing. At the time he believed them over you but that might change over time, either way he has zero influence over Gamdom and it is that simple. Do not contact yahoo62278 again, he said he will post here to relay any messages from Gamdom if they get in contact with him.

I think campaign managers represent the companies or websites that pay them. They get paid for providing a service to companies and websites therefore they should be contacted in an event such as your case.

He did contact Gamdom, he received a reply from them saying you were maliciously attacking their reputation. He was told they paid you compensation. He believed them, after all Gamdom does not have scam allegations against it that I know of. If you were dismayed by what you perceived as a lack of help by yahoo62278 you should have asked him to consider requesting evidence from Gamdom to back up their claims but you did not. As advised, you should not contact yahoo62278 directly or indirectly, he said he will post any updates from Gamdom if they get in touch with him.

Anyway, the Gamdom signature campaign is over as of 16th May 2022. Maybe Gamdom will not be back here but in future if they ask any campaign manager to take on a new campaign for them, I am sure I will not be the only forum member asking that campaign manager to refuse to work with them until they provide a full explanation and response to your scam allegations. If Gamdom cannot come to this forum to defend their reputation against a serious allegation amounting to 4.29BTC they should avoid using this forum for signature campaigns too.

Personally, if it were me as their campaign manager I would have asked for evidence because I would have wanted to see if the hot wallet really was empty when you tried to cash out your funds. At the same time I would have asked for evidence to back up their claim they paid you compensation too. I would have asked why they reduced your 14,491x win to 1338x and asked why they seized your funds and closed your account because 4.29 BTC is too big an amount to ignore.

At that point if they provided enough detail to prove beyond reasonable doubt that you were attempting to scam I would not have a problem continuing as their campaign manager but if I found any of their response suspicious I would have quit as their campaign manager immediately BUT everybody has their own opinion, there is no right or wrong way it is about opinions on how to handle an unusual scam allegation. He asked them what happened in your case, he received a reply and he decided to believe them and you cannot blame him because there is not a list of scam allegations against Gamdom.

I do appreciate Yahoo making initial contact.    I don’t however,  appreciate this as his public reply.  

“ Take a look at his screenshot from the Mod conversation. You'll notice the conversation is from December of last year. User tried to wd while hot wallet was empty. He was given some compensation for the wait and now is on some sort of crusade trying to hurt the casinos rep.

I wouldn't worry about whatever he has to post. He just keeps reposting the same screenshots and hoping the community gets joins his attack”  

I think this is personally insulting, since I’ve supported my claims against Gamdom, with evidence to every claim. Yet; Gamdom simply mentions in a conversation to Yahoo, that “op has been paid compensation and we refilled wallets” and he instantly sided with them and told others not to take notice of evidence.

This is why I (possibly wrongly) contacted Yahoo via telegram with direct proofs of everything, something that Gamdom has not and can not do.    Yahoo being pointed out to me as the campaign manager was the reason I contacted him directly on here -
Ignoring me after wrongfully stating that above, I wanted to correct him through personal contact.   Sorry if this wasn’t right.   Please don’t think I’m trying to argue with the user Yahoo, I’m simply stating he was wrong to make that claim since you’ve been provided with no proof, as it doesn’t exist.  

Excuse the little rant.  It’s not a small amount of money and I am severely frustrated with Gamdom at this point.



I thought campaign managers were casino reps, it was pointed out to me by another user that Yahoo ran their campaign here - at time of initial contact with Yahoo I wasn’t aware what a campaign was, let alone aware that yahoo ran campaigns on behalf of companies. This all came to me after - at the time I thought he was the official rep.

They have no official statement, not apology. 
It’s not the RTP being questioned;
It’s why was the game showing 36,000x now only capped to 1,338x

As other users have pointed out - the game would have stayed “maximum single round bet won” my win wasn’t even half of stated potential.  Shocking behaviour

What do you mean you are only the campaign manager? You are the direct link between gandom and this forum.. If someone joins while seeing the bitcointalk signature, you have no responsability to what you are the manager of the advertising?!?

Where is their official reply to this topic in months? Gandom is only a gateway for big time gaming, they can't lower the potential of a game, it's not possible, the game is tested with millions of spins with certain results and checked on the long term to have the theoretical rtp. If you lower the potential, the rtp is way less than the one advertised by them and that's SCAM! by every spin made by any player since the game goes on their site.

Absolutely correct, you had nothing to do with this issue at all because you were only the campaign manager for Gamdom and their campaign ended on 16th May 2022

After you contacted them, if Gamdom decided to not make any statement related to the scam allegation then that is not down to you. I hope the OP appreciates the fact you contacted Gamdom to let them know about this scam allegation because you really have no involvement in the case. The OP should not contact you via PMs or Telegram.

Though there is merit in what you say I think it is not impossible that the OP was scammed out of 4.29 BTC. He is adamant he had 4.29 BTC in his account when the account was closed and he claims Gamdom closed his account after he began complaining about why he was not being allowed to cash out.

What might have happened was he had 4.29 BTC account balance before Gamdom reduced the Lil Devil win from 14,491x to 1338x otherwise his calculations do not add up but for now, based on what has been discussed, I think it would wrong to dismiss what the OP is stating.

Let us not forget you mentioned in a different post that Gamdom told you they compensated the OP for the delay in topping up the hot wallet which made it impossible for him to withdraw his winnings and they deemed the matter closed. They did not provide you with any evidence such as tx id or hot wallet address which would prove the hot wallet was empty and would demonstrate they paid funds to the OP. As for the OP, he denies receiving any compensation or any funds from Gamdom including his own winnings.

Though you have no association now with Gamdom and have no control over what they decide to do in this scam allegation, they can settle this whole issue by making a statement to include:

- their version of events
- the hot wallet address so balance can be checked at the times the OP tried to withdraw and cash out, but was declined
- the transaction id which demonstrates they made a payment to the OP
- a full explanation why they reduced a 14,491x win to just 1338x after the event, after the bet was won

That is understandable and the correct course of action. The silence however on part of Gamdom in this matter is somewhat striking as they have not defended a serious scam allegation against them.

I am going to get in touch with the Gamdom casino support and see what they say when I send them the link to this scam accusation of yours.

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Edit: Gamdom doesn't have live support. But I sent them an email. I will inform the community if and when they respond.
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Gamdom does have live support. 
But yes direct them to this thread, as me and others deserve an explanation from their side. 
Public silence over direct claims of abuse and exploitation a casino should want to correct the “false claim” as a matter of urgency.  Not allow the matter to go on for months and not make a public comment. 

Guilty conscience

Don’t know if I’m telling the truth?
Terms of service state: “KYC at $2000 and $5000”.  Yet I was able to deposit $164,000.
Gamdom claim BTG at fault for their game, NOT one other site has any issues or Lil Devil now running  at a measly 1,338x yet they claim its the provider issue and not a coincidence for my huge win.  Yet all other casinos are experiencing no issues, BTG doesn’t publically state any issue with their games. Nothing.  Silence like the casinos giving now.

I was taught “Pictures say a thousand words and if you choose not to listen, that’s on you”. 
There’s a lot of claims against Gamdom and they’re a tiny casino what are you talking about?
Or do you mean on this website?   Thankfully Gamdom isn’t the biggest casino on these threads -

The reason I took to telegram since you ignored every PM, and public reply to you in threads.  When users are pointing out that you are the contact to the casino; and when the casino is apparently talking and misinforming you about my details.  I’ll correct you with proof.  Not been paid. 

As campaign manager, sorry former campaign manager what was your role exactly?
To deal with the casino as a go between for users and casino? Or just push as much traction as you can too that site that exploits terms of service to abuse players? Notably the false claims of KYC?

What Pmalek said is true, No amount of pressure on me will get you anywhere. I have nothing to do with your case. I said I would send a message to the team and try to have them reply, and I have done so. That's the end of my involvement in your case. When a person is trying to help you out you should say thank you, not pm them on telegram multiple times or try to ask people to "pressure" me on here. I didn't take anything from you so there is 0 pressure on me pal.

If I had an answer for you that would help you with your case, I would have posted it already or answered you on telegram.

I don't know if you're telling the truth or full of shit currently. I find it odd that not one other person has made any claim against gamdom that I am aware of. Usually when we see a scam accusation, we see multiple accusations against said casino.

I don't plan on responding here unless I have something to post from the casino.

I don't see where BigTimeGaming has claimed that they are investigating the problem. To be fair, the person you spoke to said he would get someone from the team to look at it. And that's it.

I don't think pressuring Yahoo will get things moving because he is not part of the Gamdom team. He is a campaign manager who was in charge of their signature campaign on the forum. A campaign that has ended in the meantime. If Gamdom decided to stop caring about their reputation or even scam you, I don't think they would care much about what Yahoo thinks about it either. Additionally, yahoo62278 isn't the one claiming you received your money. He responded to my questions and told me the things that the Gamdom team allegedly told him. So those claims originate from Gamdom and the casino owner.

I am going to get in touch with the Gamdom casino support and see what they say when I send them the link to this scam accusation of yours.

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Edit: Gamdom doesn't have live support. But I sent them an email. I will inform the community if and when they respond.

Yes I gambled away some of my winnings. $220,000 wasn’t the aim when I started playing.  $200,000 was the bottom line I had set once I achieved this. But the $23,000+ was game money. Yes. 

https://postimg.cc/gallery/08jq9Rf

Image board to Instagram Direct Messages with BigTimeGaming… 

“I already asked you how do you know that. Now I am asking again.”

Could you pressure Yahoo with the “have you got proof OP got paid” please?  I’ve yet to see any “proof” of any of Yahoos claims that Gamdom “paid me the next day”

So you did gamble away a part of your winnings considering that your account balance was $223.000 at one point, but when the account got closed it was down to approximately $200.000.

You said in one of your previous posts that BigTimeGaming has already started investigating. I already asked you how do you know that. Now I am asking again. How do you know there is an investigation ongoing, and can you post some proof where they told you this?

Thanks and I’m sorry for not being more specific which led you to questions you thought I hadn’t answered;

- deposited $164,000 within 24 hours
- over $223,000 at time of win, correct
- “hot wallet issue” be it low balance or the reverting back to player balance instead of “pending” until refill
- “max potential is set by provider not Gamdom.. we have no control over it”
- main account, and subsequent accounts where I’ve managed to talk to support are closed after the same final message “you can get or save this transcript right after the conversation has ended” then accounts banned.

BigTimeGaming can look into this; that is IF Gamdom are of course running legit versions of games. My accusation is that they aren’t though due to BTG having their available variable percentage RTP displayed and Gamdom is lower than the lowest -

Ok, I think I understand most of the issue now. It seems you are saying:

- you deposited a total of around $164,000 in the space of a couple of days
- you had close to $223,000 in your account after placing $10 and winning a 14,491x multiplier
- at the time they closed your account you had around $200,000/4.29 BTC in your balance
- every time you tried to withdraw over 4th 5th 6th December 2021 there was either a hot wallet issue or you were denied withdrawal

If all the above is correct then up to this point Gamdom owe you 4.29 BTC. Everything else that might have happened can be looked at later for now all that matters is you have made a claim of 4.29 BTC or $200,000 against Gamdom on the basis they credited your account with the 14,491x multiplier only to reduce it 1338x later. For Gamdom to close your account after you tried to withdraw funds and cash out and complain about the way they treated you has hallmarks of scam. The amounts involved are huge, it is understandable you are upset.


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The game currently shows "Win up to 1,338x your stake" https://gamdom.com/casino/Lil'-Devil_Big-Time-Gaming.

BigTime Gaming should be able to confirm what happened to their multiplier with date and time stamps. It is frustrating to see the Lil Devil game provider (BigTime Gaming) remaining silent after you contacted them.

Hi mate and thanks for this. 

Any chance of hearing more from you about contacting a Curaçao lawyer?

@high_today on telegram or I’ll keep up as fast as I can via this open thread. Thank you.

I’ll answer questions;

- How much money did you have in your account balance when you tried to withdraw but their hot wallet was empty?   Which attempt?  Various amounts throughout the date of 4th December until the 6th. .
highest balance was $225,000 biggest attempt $200,000
Attempted withdrawals from $1000 - $200,000.  Attempted multiple times over the three days (4-5-6th December)

- How much money did you have in your account balance at the time of your account being suspended?
$200,000 roughly at time of play or 4.29 BTC

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- How much money did Gamdom pay you as compensation for their hot wallet issues which prevented you from cashing out?
$ (you already said zero but confirm it).  I can confirm ZERO compensation..   false claims from the casino, only mentioned to one user Yahoo,  and not even to myself-  no proof from casino, just a “we’ve already paid and that’s it”. Where was their transaction proof ?

- How much money do you think Gamdom owes you, what is the amount in USD$?
At a very minimum my deposits.  $164,000 For their false claim in terms of service -
$200,000/ 4.29BTC win that they manipulated.    Whichever but that’s expected.

-  Explain exactly why you think Gamdom owes you that USD$ amount
I think Gamdom owes me $200,000  because....  I was able to deposit $164,000 without setting off any account restrictions - their terms of service directly state deposit totals of $2000 and $5000 per account requires certain kyc to continue depositing, withdrawing. Tipping or placing bets.
On top of this; every attempt to withdraw led to the same problem “BTC Balance low, system notified” and balance reverted to play balance. And not pending.
Finally; when hitting a huge win and attempting to cash out; support claims there’s “provider issues” and they reduce the game potential for everyone, not just me, but reduced to 1,338x max potential after originally claiming 36,000 X potential.
Closing my account with 4.29 btc non withdraw-able with no valid reason other than not warranting wins to non affiliated accounts, or a player that doesn’t take deposit bonuses.

 - - Is your claim against Gamdom simply based on you gambling away your account balance because you were unable to cash out?
Well no. My points are clear; are you dismissing the abuse of terms of service, game manipulation, and closure of account due to just assuming I’d spend the balance as opposed to wait for a blockchain transfer?

I’d like it if Gamdom, or someone, could dig through their account details as I wouldn’t know where to begin.  I’ll provide you a TX code shortly?   I’ll have to dig through -

I have legitimate concerns; for sure.
They’ve stayed silent and refused to publish their “proof” of absolutely anything let alone comment to agree or decline - nothing.

I’m not sure what confuses people ?  


A) Gamdom make a claim: to KYC.  I was never KYCd.  Have they stole my funds and locked my account due to hiding their own negligence?  (Not my main argument - but I’m using to state the main point - Gamdom exploit players -

B) even before my big win every attempt at withdrawals reverts funds back to playable balance. Not “pending” whilst hot wallet refilled. For days. Not a small amount of time.  Over 50 attempts to withdraw.  How many attempts would you try?

C) “won” huge on a game; which stated 36,000X,   support said provider was having issue with the game and Gamdom then reduced this to 1,338x whilst claiming to have no control over the provider.

D) account banned for what can only be called theft and exploitation of a player.  Casino broke their terms by not requesting to KYC me; banned me for questioning their authenticity is my guess.


E) refuse to talk publicly and provide any version of “proof” , suspiciously during closing my account they loose my game rounds, but when I made a new account and question support they admit that other game potentials didn’t change and it was “nothing against me as a player”.    This claim is correct.  The games where I didn’t win huge amounts they didn’t change their potential.   If the provider was having an issue, why wasn’t this across all sites the provider has their games?   Why is this fault only limited to Gamdom, and why are they still claiming 1,338x whilst all other BTG titles are set to standard 10000 - 36,000 X potential

F) I’ve tried to provide every bit of proof. Full transcripts not snippets to show what I want people to see.  The casino have stayed completely silent; in all attempts at correcting the issue.  Tried using Casino Guru and Ask Gamblers; no reply through them either.   They do not take criticism,, they will not publicly address complaints and they continue to exploit further players.  


If there’s anything else anyone else would like clarification on I’ll try to be responsive -
Have you all checked the pictures? Acknowledging but failing to apologise let alone offer resolution.

You are right about getting lost in the maze but I think this matter is coming to a close soon. It is up to the OP to make his case clearly so the community understand and unfortunately he has failed to do it. What he has done though is bring to the community an incident between himself and Gamdom.

If Gamdom scammed the OP after he placed $10 and won 14,491x on Lil Devil by closing his account or scammed him by dropping his winnings to just 1338x in a ploy to reduce the potential payout then Gamdom cannot be trusted and should be red tagged by every user in this forum if they ever open an account here. If Gamdom wanted to payout $13,380 instead of $144,910 after the OP won on the Lil Devil multiplier then that is unacceptable because there is zero justification for any website changing the multiplier after the win has occurred.

This could even be a simple case of the OP wanting to cash out c.$223,000 from his Gamdom account (some of those funds deposited and some of those funds were won) to his own Bitcoin wallet but an error showed stating "system notification: BTC balance low" therefore he decided to gamble everything away instead of waiting.

The problem is the OP needs to clarify what actually happened because even after all this time there is not enough clarity.

Going by the images posted by the OP, he alleges Gamdom changed the win from 14,491x to 1338x after the event which is the baffling part as shown in the final image here but we are still unclear what amounts (if any) the OP was allowed to withdraw and what was the account balance when they closed his account.

If Gamdom have scammed the OP, it is understandable Gamdom are not creating a new account to post here to fight the allegation as they think by keeping silent they are not confirming or denying the facts in public. They really should post here and put forward their side of the story.

I agree, OP needs to be fully clear and transparent about what happened.

I tried following the case and read the post again, but got lost in amaze and ended up losing interest. But then it strikes me, what if OP has a legitimate concern?

It also baffles me how Gamdom spent some money in the forum to advertise their platform but when such a damaging issue comes up, they aren't even bothered to come here as soon as possible and comment about the situation even after yahoo62278 helped and informed them.

How are we supposed to judge the situation fairly if one party is just silent?

OP, you should follow what JollyGood is telling you or otherwise I (and probably many others) would also deem this complaint as invalid - please reply to his clear questions.

If Gamdom paid you nothing in compensation but have claimed they paid you compensation then that allegation needs looking in to further but by you not providing full details with clarity this is a failure on your part because it causes confusion.

You should have explained all this clearly in the accusation and even now there is confusion because you are not providing clarity.

- How much money did you have in your account balance when you tried to withdraw but their hot wallet was empty?
$

- How much money did you have in your account balance at the time of your account being suspended?
$

- How much money did Gamdom pay you as compensation for their hot wallet issues which prevented you from cashing out?
$ (you already said zero but confirm it)

- How much money do you think Gamdom owes you, what is the amount in USD$?
$

- Explain exactly why you think Gamdom owes you that USD$ amount
I think Gamdom owes me $ because....

- Is your claim against Gamdom simply based on you gambling away your account balance because you were unable to cash out?
Yes/No

I can also see you did not provide any addresses you used to send crypto to the Gamdom account. Is this something you are avoiding publishing for privacy reasons?

You should note, I will probably not post here again unless you are able to answer the questions in simple English but on the face of it if they claim their hot wallet was empty at the time of you wanting to cash out but they topped it up 24 hours later, that does not really make them liable for you gambling away your account balance. All it means it you should have waited to try to withdraw later or contacted them asking for an explanation as to why you were unable to withdraw and they should have explained the situation to you.

There is also a possibility the hot wallet was not empty, that it might have had some funds there which you could have tried withdrawing in smaller amounts and which might have worked to a substantial amount and you could have withdrawn the remainder of the funds later.

As for Gamdom claiming they paid you compensation for the delay in topping up their hot wallet, I think they should clarify what they claim they paid you because you denied receiving anything.

Most importantly, Gamdom should provide their their hot wallet details so it can be determined what the balance was during the time of your initial withdrawal request. If you have the address or tx id from a previous successful withdrawal then post it here as it will expose Gamdom as liars and scammers or it will show they have been honest in that part of their defence.

Dumbmotherf,

From what it seems to me your best approach here to get your money back - would be via legal channels.
This is a huge amount and I personally wouldn't just "forget it".

I can tell you, based on my own personal experience, that I was self-excluded with a website (which I cannot name as part of the settlement) - and the website opened the very self-excluded account and I lost some more afterwards - long story short - via a local lawyer based in Curacao I was able to get $7,000 in compensation. That's a small amount in comparison to yours.

What a good lawyer who is experienced in this field can do is to threat the license holder (Gamdom's license) or even the master license holder (where lots of money is held) to revoke their license unless they resolve the issue - they would have to show up in court in Curacao if they don't cooperate or don't respond i.e. the burden of proving they are not wrong here would have to be presented in court - or they would lose their license.

In Curacao emails or forum posts mean nothing unfortunately, Curacao is notorious for being a place that hands over licenses without proper due diligence, however still, if Gamdom would lose their Curacao license they would be in a much worse position, or if you would pursue the master license holder then they can be fined and would have to pay heavy fines for what happened here - and Curacao can also sue them for damages such as reputation damages and more - it's not worth it for them to lose their license over this case.

This what you need to do, I mean that should be your proper channel moving forward.

Read about another case and see how many fines were levied against 1XBet for example:
https://www.curacaochronicle.com/post/main/complaint-filed-against-cyberluck-for-fraudulent-online-gambling/

Please contact a local based lawyer and check your best way moving forward, perhaps some of them for the amounts you're claiming would be happy to work on a no-win-no-fee basis.

Almost right; up until the claims that I was paid compensation - never received compensation, never received reimbursement of deposits, never received win.  My account was banned.

Made multiple new ones to talk to Gamdom. All eventually blocked and ignored -
Also; BigTimeGaming are looking into the matter now. Finally.
Attempted withdrawals and had account banned;

In your opinion what exactly do Gamdom mean they stated via yahoo62278 in this post:
"the user had to wait 1 night for the hot wallet to be refilled and was compensated for the wait"
What compensation did they make? What amount did you receive from them? What amount are you claiming?

"Now they feel it's just a malicious attack on their reputation. They feel the issue is resolved"
What actions have you taken that Gamdom could constitute as a malicious attack on their reputation? What issues do you think have been resolved by Gamdom and which do you think are outstanding?

Just to make it clear for everyone to easily understand, are you saying that (in approximate USD$):

- you made multiple deposits adding up to be $160,000 within a 24 hour period without issues
- at one stage you lost $90,000 and had $70,000 balance remaining
- when you balance was $70,000 you made a $10 bet on Lil Devil game winning 14,491x ($144,910)
- after winning on Lil Devil your balance was $214,910
- you made several deposits and won several games but each time you tried to withdraw your funds you received a message "system notification: BTC balance low"

If any of the above are incorrect, you can correct them when posting back.

Here is the part that confuses me. If you had c.$214,910 in your balance where is the money now? Did you gamble some or all of it away as a result of being unable to withdraw? And this is the main part of the complaint? You should post clearly in order for everybody to understand the specific points.

I understand your account at Gamdom has been banned therefore you cannot login to gather information now but what would help is to have an approximate amount of USD$ you claim is owed to you. If you can post blockchain URLs to show tx ids for all your deposits and the tx ids where you received payouts or payments from their website... that would help too.

I read his posts, thank you for asking him the questions. If he manages to get a Gamdom representative to at least post here with their side of the story then many things will become clear. We do not know how much USD$ compensation Gamdom paid to the complainant because of the delays caused by the empty hot wallet.

I think what happened is the OP had around $250,000 in his balance at one stage and wanted to withdraw but the hot wallet was empty. Instead of waiting for the hot wallet to be filled, the OP decided to gamble the funds away. Gamdom paid the OP an unknown amount as a goodwill gesture but the OP wants the c.$250,000 he had at the time of his first attempt at withdrawing and is blaming Gamdom for him gambling those funds when he wanted to withdraw. I think that is the case but the OP needs to clarify matters.

When the OP posts things should become clearer.

Can you show some proof that they have initiated an investigation. Did they tell you that over email or a public post somewhere?

I asked him about it a few days ago in his services thread and he has replied. The casino owner told him that you got paid the following day.
https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/yahoo62278-campaign-management-servicesget-all-your-needs-here-1704638

Blocked me, again. Finally BigTimeGaming have replied and are investigating.   They wasn’t aware their copy of the game Lil Devil was playable at 1,338x so potential for false scripts too.

User Yahoo; is unfortunately not even willing to comment.  He’s gone silent too

Now this is a whole different story, if gamdom doesn't reply soon to this accusations where the OP has proven his deposits and claims that he never got back even his initial deposits. Gamdom will be just another manipulating scam casino. They have no right to keep your funds and block your account.
But still we need to hear from the ither side to judge

I WISH I got my initial or even the pathetic max cap they imposed several weeks later!
I never got paid out, never got a refund for their failure to uphold terms set out in terms of service. 

Every withdrawal attempt I got the same message “BTC BALANCE LOW SYSTEM NOTIFIED”

Account was blocked for accusing Gamdom of purposefully delaying investigations, payments and failure to uphold their terms of service. 



Since my claim, Yahoo no longer advertises Gamdom as a campaign he supports.  Maybe he feels bad he’s been pushing people to this casino that makes it obvious they exploits players, unless you’re a streamer on their house money.

One of the issues here is that we have not heard from Gamdom their side of the story. It makes things difficult when trying to look at the whole picture from all angles when there is only side of the story given. I hope Gamdom make an official announcement here soon where they respond directly to the allegations.

Obviously he get his capital including the winnings set by the Gamdom max limit. This is story will be different if he didn't manage to withdraw his profit on the casino despite he won in proper way. He secure his funds and profit before he make this accusation because that's the right thing to do. He just find a way to have a reason to claim his supposed to be winnings by using the game provider detail on there official website. I will personally support him if didn't manage to withdraw his money except for additional money that has no proof to support his altering ToS accusation.

You didn't tell us if you could withdraw at least your capital before your account gets banned, as i see your issue is with the fund you won from the games you mentioned by not transferring the wins to your balance account on gamdom.
In both cases their team should at least respond to all this publicly and clarify things. And as their respond to yahoo who was a manager to yheir campaign before they kind of said you could withdraw your fund ( capital fund  i guss)
Alot more things missing in this whole thing

Well in that case you have been successful because you have highlighted what happened to you and are warning people it could happen to them.

If Gamdom have not spoken publicly regarding this matter, it seems from their side the matter is closed. I am not sure what else you or anyone here can do to help find a solution if Gamdom are not engaging.

Purpose to bring a direct warning to anyone that plans to use this site, that they manipulate terms of service and abuse game potentials to their favour.
I’m a player that has deposited over $160,000 and receive no “support” nor “care” from the casino so these wins should be credible as they’re still in profit on my deposits alone.

A normal player, depositing $20-$50 a month on a lucky spree could have a brave run and spin $10 per spin and win a 14,900 X and think they’ve actually won $150,000 but Gamdom can’t afford: or won’t credit the win due to unknown reasons but claim “it isn’t against you because you won huge it is a different reason”

Gamdom haven’t publicly spoken in any aspect.  I had Ayezee talk to the casino rep and they said they’re still looking into this for me. But during this they banned my account so of course aren’t going to admit fault.

From what I see it is clear those you reported the incident to (AskGamblers, Curaçao Gaming and Casino.Guru) will not be helping you receive any funds, therefore can you state what you hope to achieve by creating this thread and what you would deem as an acceptable outcome?

If you created this thread as a warning to those who might consider playing at Gamdom (or those that already are regular players there) then I think you have relayed the message that there is a chance they could get scammed. If you created it with any hope or expectation you will receive any payment from Gamdom then I think it is clear you will not receive anything from them.

The thread has been moved in the correct board and by far the majority of your case has been presented for all to see.

In the forum we have not read any statement from any official Gamdom account. They have not posted anything therefore they have not confirmed nor denied your version of events. If Gamdom are not responding directly to this allegation what is your next step?

If so, then move your thread to the correct board which is: Scam Accusations

But since it seems you don't know how to move the thread to the correct board after some suggestions, then I've reported it for moving. I hope the moderators can do that for you.

Yeah attempted to do that last night when uploading;
Only problem is I’m using my mobile and there’s a list of around 787 different threads.
Any idea which the right one is called on the drop down?


I’d rather it be scam accusations and not simply reputation; since I was scammed out of a win.

It has been mentioned before, you should move this thread to the Scam Accusations board. Since you already have one thread there I think you should lock that one and keep this one open.

Scroll all the way down, then on the bottom left of your screen you will see a link "move topic".

Holy shit.  Thank you!
Yeah, I tried to upload as images but I guess I’m too newbie to be able to do that.

Thank you, yeah this is how it intended to be. I didn’t want someone to need to open 20 tabs just to keep up to date.

As others have suggested I think it’s time to book flights to Malta. 

Gamdom have no one that represents them publicly; they don’t embrace arguments and instead block and ignore all attempts to communicate.
I think Felix Romër, the owner avoids the internet due to inability to pay people he’s scammed.

No response from Gamdom Casino, and no update from Yahoo in personal messages and/ or telegram which I sent direct proofs of all claims too.    Silence from the affiliated. 



Hi, yes as I have previously replied,  I have contacted Big Time Gaming;
Through email, Instagram, Twitter and YouTube. -
They’ve not replied but showcase plenty of extremely massive wins in terms of multipliers.
Screenshots were taken from time of play (using my mobile to Gamble)
I have over 2000 screenshots / screen recordings from various sessions for this exact reason. Although it’s the first time in 4 years I’d had to use them to prove any wrong doings by the casino.   Absolutely shameless. 



Hey, thanks for this list -
I’m not entirely sure what I did wrong but I’ll check against my thread.   Thank you bro

Here are all the images that OP linked incorrectly when he made the accusation in this thread.

I am reposting them in the same order for them to be seen as the OP probably intended but did not link them correctly from the postimg website. It will help those unfamiliar with the allegation to understand somewhat better the story behind it:


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You need to move this thread to the Scam Accusations board. That's where it belongs.
Have you contacted the game provider to ask them if casinos can change their game's RTP rates like I mentioned in the previous reply?

There seems to be an achieved version of the Lil Devil slot from December 2021, but for some reason I can't get it to load in any of my browsers. I am trying to check what the maximum multiplier of this slot was in the past. The link is https://web.archive.org/web/20211230115138/https://gamdom.com/casino/Lil'-Devil_Big-Time-Gaming. Can someone get it to load?

How do you have all those screenshots? You took them before your account got banned?

I know of only one official representative of Gamdom casino, @cryptasm (I think he is the CEO of the company), but he hasn't been active since 2020. In my opinion, it would be good to hear their side of the story too, which is why someone from their team should respond regarding this issue.

I noticed on another thread that yahoo forwarded the issue to the owner, but we didn't see an official response afterward.

All proofs in main text ^^

Yes, I think that would be best.
Try to summarize all the evidence in an easy-to-understand way. If it is clear what is right, at least you will get the support of the community. That alone can be a powerful tool to convince the casino management and their customers that your claim is credible. But all the evidence must be summarized in such a way that it can be analyzed and verified by any competent person. Just putting a lot of words in a post does not count as evidence. Proof must be easy to verify and your post should contain as much supporting information as possible.

Thank you all for your help.   Yeah I’ll do that now;
I’ll write a detailed thread, including screenshots, including deposits and transactions,
Including them stating their own Terms Of Service aren’t active even though the websites old,
How they admit the game didn’t change due to my winning, but “another reason” undisclosed,
I’ll find the time in 45 mins just at work currently,

That’s true; I asked for the other ones to be deleted so I could re-write and include all relevant new updates;

Will ask again that they be closed to reopen - or should I edit my original write up since I’ve had news but no result (bare in mind since December).    Yahoo apparently a campaign manager - and he won’t even look into it because he’s had “his version of the story” from Gamdom who refuse to speak publically about this case.

Twitter blocked, live support no replies, Trust Pilot false replies (we’ve emailed you concerning this, no emails still)

Will write detailed thread.  Thank you.

Does anybody know if there an official forum representative for Gamdom? If there is a Gamdom forum representative here, it is a good idea to get them involved in the conversation as soon as possible to look at the situation from their perspective and hear their side of the story.

After reading both threads, I am unable to come to a conclusion because screenshots and tx ids need to be part of the presented evidence. I look forward to studying the evidence you say you will post because a scam accusation as serious as this needs to be investigated properly.

It is a huge amount of money that you have mentioned therefore we all as a community here have a responsibility to look at the case.

I cannot speak for others but if you can provide blockchain evidence you deposited funds to your account on their website and sign the wallet those funds were sent from - then that would give your case a huge boost.

My advice would be the same as Stalker22. It would probably be more effective if you use one thread in the Scam Accusations board to highlight your case.

You are right, the OP should try to consolidate all his efforts (in presenting his case) in one thread.

If memory serves me well I think I have seen this accusation against Gamdom casino before.

Yes, here it is:
https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.59678800

OP, there is no need to create new topics for the same case. If additional information becomes available, you can share it in the existing thread or update the original post.

Thank you.  I’ll attempt to do that now. 
Making a new Instagram, Imgur account and a Twitter. and I’ll upload everything

Have you discussed this with the game provider of that slot? I think you should ask them if Gamdom can lower the RTP rates of their games and see what the game provider says about it. If such changes are allowed and Gamdom hasn't lied about what RTP rate their game had, I see no issue with it.

When you won, you won a multiplier of 14,900x, is that correct? And only after that win, Gamdom changed the maximum payouts to 1,338x for that slot. If you can prove that you played and won at a time when it was possible to trigger 14,900x multipliers, that's what you should be paid.

When it comes to maximum payouts and wagers, I believe casinos can adjust that anyway they want to as long as the info can be found in-game or in the description. There are cases where one site accepts wagers of up to $100 per spin, while a different casino only accepts wagers of up to $20 for the same game, for example. All that affects the maximum payouts. But they can't just change the multipliers after a player wins and refuse to pay them.

Move the thread to the correct location and post detailed proof of everything you have.

No, this is the right board >>>> Scam Accusations

Just share them how they are with a note stating that one should read from bottom to top

I honestly thought this was scam accusations. 
Sorry I’ll close thread and re-open with evidence. 

Problem with Gamdom live support is it’s from bottom to top, new messages come above. But of course I’m happy to share direct screenshots too.

I’ll do it when I finish work. Thanks.

You should start by making a proper scam accusation. Foremost, this thread should be in scam accusations

Post all the screenshots for chat, not just lines of texts and replies, which anyone can create if you want to be taken seriously.

People don't have time to check out casinoguru or any other website back and forth. Once you decide to create a scam accusation here, then you should also add screenshot images here.

Hi there, thanks for reply.

Of course I have proof;

Everything from screenshots of win, deposits, chat with VIP host, chat with “live support”,

Transcript from live support;

> StonedTwat (02:50:19): If Gamdom wasn’t purposefully denying players
> of wins; why was this game manipulated and now altered to a max potential
> of 1,338x ?
> Matt (02:50:47): Max potential is not decided by Gamdom though, it's
> decided by the Slot provider itself.
> Matt (02:50:53): We have no control over it
> StonedTwat (02:51:10): That’s nonsense. The slot provider allows
> 100,560 x
> StonedTwat (02:51:22): same as your other BTG titles.
> Matt (02:52:16): The potential on that slot actually did not change
> because of you winning huge in it though, it's another case.
> StonedTwat (02:52:24): My vip manager shouldn’t be “filling”
> my wallets? My withdrawal should pend or I should be added to withdrawal
> address upon withdrawal request.
>
> This conversation doesn’t leave Gamdom much legitimacy in its false
> claims.
> StonedTwat (02:52:47): So, Gamdom has no control
> StonedTwat (02:53:05): now you’re telling me there’s a different
> reason the slot has changed ??
> StonedTwat (02:53:55): This game showed potential of 36,000 same as
> other BTG titles on Gamdom only after winning was it now altered and
> you say Gamdom isn’t rigged against players?
> Matt (02:55:46): You were also playing on madam destiny & fruit party2
> & christmas bigbass bonanza & 5lionsgold etc, did all these slots change
> the multiplier? no, it was only on lil' devil, it was a random coincidence,
> it was not targeted towards you or anything like you think



Very odd coincidence; wouldn’t you agree ? I need to make others aware.

There are people running a campaign in here earning money promoting a scam. They also don’t follow their own T&S but will use these against you if you ever need to withdraw money.

Again proven here; transcripts;

> StonedTwat (02:20:52): You exploited the care of players with failing
> to stick to your own terms of service as stated by players on BitCoinTalk
> forum , you should have blocked my account after 1 $10,000
> Matt (02:21:32): Our KYC/AML verification is currently not in full
> effect yet, we're only doing the verification if asked to.
> StonedTwat (02:24:49): Is that even legal 😳 you can’t claim this
> as part of your T&S if this isn’t in effect ?
> StonedTwat (02:25:00): What care does Gamdom have for players ?
> StonedTwat (02:25:13): No protection no care ?
> Matt (02:26:34): We are doing KYC if there are ever suspicious activities
> suspected on the account and other stuff such as that. It's not implemented
> yet hence other players can deposit/withdraw whatever amount they want.
> StonedTwat (02:28:06): You allowed me to deposit 2.9BTC whilst in hospital
> on medication failing to uphold your advertised T&S. 2.9BTC to the
> value of 160,000 dollars in a day.
>
> First deposit $10,000
> StonedTwat (02:28:23): First withdrawal attempt “BTC BALANCE LOW
> SYSTEM NOTIFIED”
> StonedTwat (02:29:49): Second withdrawal attempt the same.
> My “vip host” kept saying it’ll be filled.
> Tried to withdraw allowed me to do $1000. I went to bed woke up same
> thing. Host said it’s filling I continued playing deposited more
> same thing soon as I win money reverts back to play balance. Is this
> a bug os is Gamdom designed not to pay real cash players ?


Screenshots on CasinoGuru,   Imgur and Instagram from full conversation. 

They do not accept fault for any action on their website.  They are crooks.

We can’t deny or believe what you are saying here for lack of proof and evidence, but if what you said is true that means the casino is manipulating the games and didn’t set rules to allow them change their RTP after some users get profits and hit the jackpot wins. I have been using gamdom on betting and online casino tables only for that i can’t judge them an i never had any problem with them. But with slots and games knowing it’s all programmed for the benefit of the casino is enough to know your chances of winning are low, so if a gambler got the big wins he must get paid. For what you saying here please provide us with proofs and that even their support refused to help you which makes us sure they are a scam otherwise it’s just a story that no one will buy

Scam accusation and serious warning for non affiliate players at Gamdom, for various reasons (with proof) personally accusing to be a victim of $210,000 (wins) or $160,000 if you use my deposits as my scam amount. Read on to learn more all raw deposits. Never taken a bonus.

Have attempted to open complaint on AskGamblers who advised I’d have to email direct to the Curaçao Gaming license. Proof:  https://postimg.cc/KkKBVBcK  (Which I also have and have had no reply)
Opened a Casino.Guru complaint;   they replied to Casino Guru denying to comment, proof: https://postimg.cc/Vd5TsH7p  Casino Guru awarded negative points due to this refusal to comment.
  
So, let’s get to it. Theres a lot of information here and I’ve tried to make it an easy to read as possible; but yeah, I Signed up to Gamdom in December last year (2021); account name: StonedTwat VIP level 87.  
(Account now banned.) (proof) https://postimg.cc/n9zbZSmV/cc57831b
Gamdom simply stats: “banned” instead of “can’t afford to pay player”.

First off; I’d like to point out that Gambling is highly addictive.  Please do not start, and if you do gamble do not choose Gamdom - they break very serious clauses in their own Terms of Service, that should protect you as a player and them as a casino:. If a casino breaks their own rules when you deposit, don't think they can’t, or won’t change their terms in their favor to ban you,  IF you win big.
 (Proof of Gamdom breaking their own TOS stating” it’s not in effect yet”, how long has Gamdom been around and they’ve not managed to sort out a very serious aspect of safe online gambling: https://postimg.cc/k2Q3SWfN )

Deposit proofs: https://postimg.cc/bZs39cx9   &   https://postimg.cc/21MTHcTR

Played the game “Lil’ Devil” provided by BigTimeGaming.
and hit an incredible 14,900x multi on $10 bet for a total of $149,912.  Taking my balance to $223,000
Proof during game balance start: $73,267.87.  https://postimg.cc/G8jbJSGd  
Proof: $149,912 win taking my balance total to $223,179.  https://postimg.cc/SYNkZ7f8

Facts about this game, stated by the game maker:
- Max win: 100,504 X  (example $1 - $100,504)
- Variable RTP range of 96.31% - 96.43%
- Proof: https://postimg.cc/kBXm9GCM/3a0a64c3

Gamdoms version of this game:
-Max win (now) 1,338x (max??!!)
-RTP set to 95.73 (below provider variables?!)
-Proof: https://postimg.cc/7G35vhkM

No, I’m not new to gambling, and I know a casino doesn’t have to play games to their full jackpot potentials but they state in their description what multi they are willing to pay.  Gamdoms case this was 36,000X same as other BTG titles such as “Final Countdown” proof: https://postimg.cc/Z9y9cjsQ
Unfortunately though I  have no proof of Gamdoms original advertised as I never imagined hitting such a big win, nor did I ever imagine a time a big casino like Gamdom struggling to pay up.
Only proof that the potential has been altered / manipulated and the game but the win potential has been changed for “other reasons not against you” - please see proof - https://postimg.cc/9rmhVpTq  https://postimg.cc/jD90HY1z  https://postimg.cc/N2Kv2VzL


Any attempt to cash out I was hit with the error “BTC BALANCE LOW; SYSTEM NOTIFIED” my “VIP host” Wayne kept stating it would be available in the next few hours, so I would try a couple times a day, several times a week until being blocked by Gamdom on Twitter and banned on Gamdom.


If there’s anything else I’ve missed, or should add, please let me know.

Scam accusation summary;
-refuse to pay big wins; then lower and manipulate their slot potentials. (Lower than provider actually offers - possible fake scripts/ fake games - BigTimeGaming are yet to comment..)
- They don’t stick to their own AML/KYC, purposely exploiting players
- don’t have accounts linked to a withdrawal wallet; withdraws are manual through VIP. (Unless you’re watching streamers use house accounts, then they click withdraw.. suspicious)
- will not comment publicly on here, or Casino.Guru, instead claim they’re in exchange of emails with me which they’re not.


I’ve tried talking to affiliates of the Casino; people that are sponsored and none of them seem to share any kind of concern that honest players are being fucked by fraudulent casinos.  

Is there anything I need to add or change in this write up?