Topic: US and China are very close to starting a war in the South China Sea (Read 344 times)

by Stephen Lendman (stephenlendman.org - Home - Stephen Lendman)

Sino/US relations are more dismal than at any time since Nixon's 1972 meeting with Mao during his weeklong visit to China.

Are bilateral differences irreconcilable? Is the breach between both countries too great to restore more cooperative relations?

Is a new trade war inevitable? Has it already begun unnoticed?Has a new Cold War begun that could turn hot?

Mistrust and friction between both countries continue worsening.

On the one hand, bilateral differences stem from Trump's reelection strategy.

His manipulating the public mind blame game aims to shift responsibility for failure to effectively address the US public health issue and economic collapse onto China.

A far greater issue is wanting the country's rise on the world stage as a political, economic, industrial, technological, and military powerhouse undermined — a prescription for longterm friction and possible confrontation.

Trump's Office of Trade and Manufacturing Policy director Peter Navarro said "(w)e are at war. Make no mistake about that. The Chinese unleashed a virus on the world (sic)."

Big Lies repeated endlessly get most people to believe them. Recent Gallup poll data show two-thirds of Americans view China mostly or very unfavorably.

Russia and China are jointly viewed as America's greatest enemies — despite both countries at peace, pursuing cooperative relations with other countries, threatening none, in contrast to US war on humanity at home and abroad.

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Nah the US will never attack china, it only attacks weak nations which they can almost guarantee that they will win, although they can probably win in case a war broke out between the two nations the cost is just way too high for the US to even consider such an attempt.
with that being said its more likely that the economic war will continue and trump will keep calling them out every now and then and maybe even engaging in proxy wars against each other (which is pretty unlikely).

South Asia... huh?

Pakistan - Client state , all they can do is leverage this situation by attacking in Kashmir, then fail miserably one more time.

India - Delhi kinda advocating or still dreaming about NAM's policy in some extent which is irrelevant in recent time as they are key player in the Indo-pacific and part of the QUAD. so please take a Hint.

Sri lanka- Colombo is fed up with debt trap.

Bangladesh- Dhaka, not interested

Maldives- Seriously?

Nepal- Not expecting anything from Kathmandu, except some chirping from their communist party

Bhutan- Big No

Afganistan - Hell no..

Please enlighten me, I might be missing something here.

The US has 11 carriers (9 to 11 full strike groups), China has 2 with a 3rd supposed to be out next year maybe. Near as I can tell, China has roughly 1,580 fighter type aircraft. The US has 2,210 NOT including the carrier planes. So on paper, the US has superiority.

history has shown that when the country at the top starts to feel threatened by an up and comer, they go to war. Unless something major happens to derail that, it's inevitable. Or we can hope they do it economically instead.

US would indulge into any war with China in foreseeable future. No matter whatever Trump says or yells! US very well know the power and capability of China - they are not Iraq or Afghanistan. China is the 2nd most powerful country in the world and technically very advanced as well.

China has the advantage. They only have a few miles to go to get food. But the US has to go all the way back to America. Or aren't we social distancing fish in the ocean?

 

A war is not going to happen in the situation that we are right now.
COVID-19 is the first enemy for China and US right now and they are not going to fight each other.
Their hospitals are full of people and economies are still under quarantine - at least the USA's is still.
They don't have any benefit of starting a war.

Not true. While the ocean is closer, they already over fish their waters, which is part of why they are taking ocean resources of other nations (besides the oil, minerals, and military advantage). China is HEAVILY dependent on food imports. The USA produces a very large percentage of the world's food supply. If they went to war with the US, the likely domestic result would be famines in China, which would quickly also result in mass unrest.

Not true. While the ocean is closer, they already over fish their waters, which is part of why they are taking ocean resources of other nations (besides the oil, minerals, and military advantage). China is HEAVILY dependent on food imports. The USA produces a very large percentage of the world's food supply. If they went to war with the US, the likely domestic result would be famines in China, which would quickly also result in mass unrest.

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Also US have to remember, that a lot of south Asian countries will support China if there is a war. Because China has invested billions of dollars into their economy. So they are somewhat bound to offer help to China in case a war happens. It's easier said than done!  

Source:
https://nationalinterest.org/blog/buzz/first-real-us-china-war-could-be-fought-south-china-sea-143847

Not true. While the ocean is closer, they already over fish their waters, which is part of why they are taking ocean resources of other nations (besides the oil, minerals, and military advantage). China is HEAVILY dependent on food imports. The USA produces a very large percentage of the world's food supply. If they went to war with the US, the likely domestic result would be famines in China, which would quickly also result in mass unrest.

China has the advantage. They only have a few miles to go to get food. But the US has to go all the way back to America. Or aren't we social distancing fish in the ocean?

 

Here's What You Need To Know: China is playing offense in the South China Sea. By establishing facts on the ground (indeed, establishing “ground”), it is creating a situation in which normal U.S. behavior looks like destabilizing intervention.

Accidental war is rare, but not impossible. Common to all of these scenarios is the potential that Chinese (or less likely, American) public opinion might become so inflamed as to box in policymakers. If Xi Jinping, who has made assertive foreign policy a cornerstone of his administration, feels that he cannot back down and survive politically, then things could get unpredictable very quickly.