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Topic: US is a ‘developing country’ on rankings that measure democracy, inequality (Read 159 times)

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Very True, the United States is not a leader of the free world. Even though it's first amendment is unmatchable it still got serious issues.
The states is a racist country that is behind many other developed countries in terms of social and economic progress. Racism has cheated many Americans out of the health care, education, economic security and environment they deserve.
American exceptionalism is a farce, and the country's commitment to democracy is waning.

If the US does not address its racism and exceptionalism, it will continue to lag behind the rest of the world.



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Very True, the United States is not a leader of the free world. Even though it's first amendment is unmatchable it still got serious issues.
The states is a racist country that is behind many other developed countries in terms of social and economic progress. Racism has cheated many Americans out of the health care, education, economic security and environment they deserve.
American exceptionalism is a farce, and the country's commitment to democracy is waning.

If the US does not address its racism and exceptionalism, it will continue to lag behind the rest of the world.


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These indicators ignore many variables such as immigration to the country, regime change and population number. I also think that it is unfair to equal spending between a rich country that has 10 million citizens and a poor country that has a million citizens and the United States of America, and therefore many countries may top the rankings for wrong reasons.


In general, no matter how bad the rating is, the United States does not control the world with ratings, but with USD
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I could understand if this were framed as here is where developing countries and the US have similarities, things in common, more so now than before.  But not framing it as such gives the appearance that the US and some developing countries are on equal footing, and this could not be any further from the truth.
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It is understandable because the USA has always been flawed, and they are given only 2 options to pick as a president, and 2 idealogy as well, if one of them loses votes to another, like let’s say progressives like Bernie Sanders started their own campaign, then democrats would lose, if republicans divided into pre-trump and after-trump sides, then democrats will win, so both of them scared to have a new one.

All in all, it is clear that they are just doing the worst possible and convince themselves that it is the best for the nation, and they can't be wrong because accepting that it is wrong would be improvement but it would lead to them losing to each other. Too much of a divided nation to get better, they care more about making each other miserable than improving everyone’s life to a better level.
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"Flawed democracy" is not a typical political regime of a developing countries, they usually have a full-fledged dictatorship. Inequality itself is not indicative of anything - there are countries with high inequality where people live far better than in countries with low inequality.

Just ask people from actual developing countries if they would prefer to live there or in the US, and then ask people from the US if they would want to live in a developing country.
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To be honest, I haven't believed in the US as a leader of freedom and democracy before, so I'm not surprised. They don't score well on media freedom, their police acts out ridiculously over small crimes and over protests, the wide availability of weapons results in the fact that more children now die in the US in mass shootings than cops on duty, and just recently the right to abortion was overruled. The US is also not a party to some major conventions and one of the few democratic countries that doesn't have gender equality in its constitution.
The US is at the forefront not because of how democratic it is, but how it can financially and militarily support those who are or striving to be democratic.
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It's the usual social scientists screeching racism at every corner ranking the U.S. as a developing country. The reality is racism doesn't play much of a role in the American democracy. Fueling tensions between races is how politicians make their money. Making minorities the perpetual victims ensures that those voters will keep reelecting the same politicians who promise change.

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To illustrate his point, King referred to many of the same factors studied by Du Bois: the condition of housing and household wealth, education, social mobility and literacy rates, health outcomes and employment. On all of these metrics, Black Americans fared worse than whites. But as King noted, “Many people of various backgrounds live in this other America.”

The benchmarks of development invoked by these men also featured prominently in the 1962 book “The Other America,” by political scientist Michael Harrington, founder of a group that eventually became the Democratic Socialists of America. Harrington’s work so unsettled President John F. Kennedy that it reportedly galvanized him into formulating a “war on poverty.”

Kennedy’s successor, Lyndon Johnson, waged this metaphorical war. But poverty bound to discrete places. Rural areas and segregated neighborhoods stayed poor well beyond mid-20th-century federal efforts.

At no point are people allowed to question what precise effects real systemic racism had (Jim Crow law) apart from the individual choices someone might make, and how those individual choices affects someone's socioeconomic status.

In fact, most immigrants arriving to the U.S. are poor by nature. Does that indicate any system issue that would suggest a fundamental flaw to democracy? If a particular black American makes individual choices that are detrimental to his/her financial success, would this reflect poorly on the system or on the person?
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The top dogs of the US government work for money and big companies. Not surprising that democracy is faltering from a country that serves as an introducer to democracy and freedom. The country, which supposedly supports democracy, has a political system that does not exhibit this. The battle is always between the reds and the blues, and they aren't even voted through popular votes which is, IMO, a better exhibition of democracy than the electoral college. In terms of inequality, a lot of Americans are still not okay co-habiting with people of color. Heck, this term should not even exist anyway but thanks to the US we have this term to describe non-White Americans Cheesy

Economy-wise, US is far ahead of a lot of countries, but in terms of politics, ideology, and its society, it's really trailing far behind other progressive countries that are not that rich, but knows how to act as one.
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Is not really surprising to be honest. The US system is pretty much designed to work for the rich and there is plenty of money supporting politicians that are willing to keep it that way. It is nearly impossible to win elections without massive donations and business support that simply cannot come from a party grassroots. Under that situation, everything is tainted by economic interests that are foreign to the need of ample layers of society.
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I don't think US is a developing country and even using your ranking.
I am well aware that there is corruption everywhere in the world no doubt and so there is definitely traces of corruption in the U.S. but compared to many countries in the world the United States of America should have a spot in the top ten less corrupt ranking.

Democracy and inequality to me has many aspect there is an aspect where racial influences comes in and also an aspect where gender issues comes in, this has been a global issues for so long and not even US has gotten it completely right.

There is so much attention on U.S that when ever this issues happens it becomes globally know. That's not to say it is most experienced in the US. Many other countries are far worse in this areas but it is mostly swept under the radar and covered up with makeup sentiments.
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When you are talking about the problems with the medical industry one must understand that, it's been there for long and it's not going to suddenly change into the new system, it's not going to become UK, where the healthcare system is " okay " but bad for the medical professionals since the amount of money paid to a doctor in US is way way higher than the one paid in UK, they need to definitely find a balance somehow.
They are not the leader of the free world they have done loads of mistakes in various countries, fighting different battles, taking the Ukranian war a bit too long, stretching it out indirectly, what they need is :
Better policies
Good governance
Better job opportunities ( people are leaving their jobs )
Have more options of parties to choose from ( in government)

They failed all these since they focus more on jobs provided by war in other countries. This is the only country where its almost necessary to be in the service and travel thousands of miles, far from their own continent.  Border issues as well. If they were focused on wealth distribution, it only widens the gap of rich and poor. The middle class was already wiped out.

In terms of development, its very visual. they still have the old trains unlike what the Japanese and Chinese have. The bridges they have was even built by the Chinese. Gone are the days of fulfilling our American dream.

No leader so far that will come up as populist but Trump but hated to much as well. They need someone like a strongman to rise up. Forget about that leader of free world, there is no such thing as that.
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When you are talking about the problems with the medical industry one must understand that, it's been there for long and it's not going to suddenly change into the new system, it's not going to become UK, where the healthcare system is " okay " but bad for the medical professionals since the amount of money paid to a doctor in US is way way higher than the one paid in UK, they need to definitely find a balance somehow.
They are not the leader of the free world they have done loads of mistakes in various countries, fighting different battles, taking the Ukranian war a bit too long, stretching it out indirectly, what they need is :
Better policies
Good governance
Better job opportunities ( people are leaving their jobs )
Have more options of parties to choose from ( in government)
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The United States may regard itself as a “leader of the free world,” but an index of development released in July 2022 places the country much farther down the list.

In its global rankings, the United Nations Office of Sustainable Development dropped the U.S. to 41st worldwide, down from its previous ranking of 32nd. Under this methodology – an expansive model of 17 categories, or “goals,” many of them focused on the environment and equity – the U.S. ranks between Cuba and Bulgaria. Both are widely regarded as developing countries.

The U.S. is also now considered a “flawed democracy,” according to The Economist’s democracy index.

As a political historian who studies U.S. institutional development, I recognize these dismal ratings as the inevitable result of two problems. Racism has cheated many Americans out of the health care, education, economic security and environment they deserve. At the same time, as threats to democracy become more serious, a devotion to “American exceptionalism” keeps the country from candid appraisals and course corrections.

‘The other America’

The Office of Sustainable Development’s rankings differ from more traditional development measures in that they are more focused on the experiences of ordinary people, including their ability to enjoy clean air and water, than the creation of wealth.

So while the gigantic size of the American economy counts in its scoring, so too does unequal access to the wealth it produces. When judged by accepted measures like the Gini coefficient, income inequality in the U.S. has risen markedly over the past 30 years. By the Organization for Economic Cooperation and Development’s measurement, the U.S. has the biggest wealth gap among G-7 nations.

These results reflect structural disparities in the United States, which are most pronounced for African Americans. Such differences have persisted well beyond the demise of chattel slavery and the repeal of Jim Crow laws.

Scholar W.E.B. Du Bois first exposed this kind of structural inequality in his 1899 analysis of Black life in the urban north, “The Philadelphia Negro.” Though he noted distinctions of affluence and status within Black society, Du Bois found the lives of African Americans to be a world apart from white residents: a “city within a city.” Du Bois traced the high rates of poverty, crime and illiteracy prevalent in Philadelphia’s Black community to discrimination, divestment and residential segregation – not to Black people’s degree of ambition or talent.

More than a half-century later, with characteristic eloquence, Martin Luther King Jr. similarly decried the persistence of the “other America,” one where “the buoyancy of hope” was transformed into “the fatigue of despair.”

To illustrate his point, King referred to many of the same factors studied by Du Bois: the condition of housing and household wealth, education, social mobility and literacy rates, health outcomes and employment. On all of these metrics, Black Americans fared worse than whites. But as King noted, “Many people of various backgrounds live in this other America.”

The benchmarks of development invoked by these men also featured prominently in the 1962 book “The Other America,” by political scientist Michael Harrington, founder of a group that eventually became the Democratic Socialists of America. Harrington’s work so unsettled President John F. Kennedy that it reportedly galvanized him into formulating a “war on poverty.”

Kennedy’s successor, Lyndon Johnson, waged this metaphorical war. But poverty bound to discrete places. Rural areas and segregated neighborhoods stayed poor well beyond mid-20th-century federal efforts.

In large part that is because federal efforts during that critical time accommodated rather than confronted the forces of racism, according to my research.

Across a number of policy domains, the sustained efforts of segregationist Democrats in Congress resulted in an incomplete and patchwork system of social policy. Democrats from the South cooperated with Republicans to doom to failure efforts to achieve universal health care or unionized workforces. Rejecting proposals for strong federal intervention, they left a checkered legacy of local funding for education and public health.

Today, many years later, the effects of a welfare state tailored to racism is evident — though perhaps less visibly so — in the inadequate health policies driving a shocking decline in average American life expectancy.

Declining democracy

There are other ways to measure a country’s level of development, and on some of them the U.S. fares better.

The U.S. currently ranks 21st on the United Nations Development Program’s index, which measures fewer factors than the sustainable development index. Good results in average income per person – $64,765 – and an average 13.7 years of schooling situate the United States squarely in the developed world.

Its ranking suffers, however, on appraisals that place greater weight on political systems.

The Economist’s democracy index now groups the U.S. among “flawed democracies,” with an overall score that ranks between Estonia and Chile. It falls short of being a top-rated “full democracy” in large part because of a fractured political culture. This growing divide is most apparent in the divergent paths between “red” and “blue” states.

Although the analysts from The Economist applaud the peaceful transfer of power in the face of an insurrection intended to disrupt it, their report laments that, according to a January 2022 poll, “only 55% of Americans believe that Mr. Biden legitimately won the 2020 election, despite no evidence of widespread voter fraud.”

Election denialism carries with it the threat that election officials in Republican-controlled jurisdictions will reject or alter vote tallies that do not favor the Republican Party in upcoming elections, further jeopardizing the score of the U.S. on the democracy index.

Red and blue America also differ on access to modern reproductive care for women. This hurts the U.S. gender equality rating, one aspect of the United Nations’ sustainable development index.

Since the Supreme Court overturned Roe v. Wade, Republican-controlled states have enacted or proposed grossly restrictive abortion laws, to the point of endangering a woman’s health.

I believe that, when paired with structural inequalities and fractured social policy, the dwindling Republican commitment to democracy lends weight to the classification of the U.S. as a developing country.

American exceptionalism

To address the poor showing of the United States on a variety of global surveys, one must also contend with the idea of American exceptionalism, a belief in American superiority over the rest of the world.

Both political parties have long promoted this belief, at home and abroad, but “exceptionalism” receives a more formal treatment from Republicans. It was the first line of the Republican Party’s national platform of 2016 and 2020 (“we believe in American exceptionalism”). And it served as the organizing principle behind Donald Trump’s vow to restore “patriotic education” to America’s schools.

In Florida, after lobbying by Republican Gov. Ron DeSantis, the state board of education in July 2022 approved standards rooted in American exceptionalism while barring instruction in critical race theory, an academic framework teaching the kind of structural racism Du Bois exposed long ago.

With a tendency to proclaim excellence rather than pursue it, the peddling of American exceptionalism encourages Americans to maintain a robust sense of national achievement – despite mounting evidence to the contrary.


https://theconversation.com/us-is-becoming-a-developing-country-on-global-rankings-that-measure-democracy-inequality-190486


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Somehow the following doesn't surprise me:

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In its global rankings, the United Nations Office of Sustainable Development dropped the U.S. to 41st worldwide, down from its previous ranking of 32nd.

The U.S. is also now considered a “flawed democracy,” according to The Economist’s democracy index.

It reminds me of the US healthcare reform era of 2011, when american healthcare was ranked lower than 30th in the world. They stopped doing healthcare rankings shortly thereafter.

I feel as if events have trended in this direction for close to 20 years. People have never really gotten a break since the economic crisis of 2008.
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