Topic: Usagi: Simple contract violation (Read 5468 times)

Quote from: usagi on October 14, 2012, 11:17:51 AM

Second point, I *just* said that everything we had was invested on GLBSE, and I will be distributing claim codes as I get them. So what's your problem? Are you mentally retarded?

How did the mining rigs on order for your mining fund get to be invested on GLBSE? Are you going to cancel those orders and share the BTC amonst your shareholders? Or are you hoping they'll be forgotten and you can keep them? You've said a few times in this thread that EVERYTHING you had was invested on GLBSE - yet that isn't actually true is it?

Lol just fuck off dude. You got nothing, and the best you can do is necroaccount and necrothread.

You honestly think you can just ignore legitimate issues and that the mods will just lock the thread?

GL with that lol.

You honestly think that people have to listen to you or even care and that I will just answer any question you ask?

GL with that lol.

https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.1246650

Do you have ANY idea how fucking dumb you are, deprived?

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Quote from: Deprived on October 14, 2012, 09:01:03 AM

Quote from: nimda on October 14, 2012, 12:35:09 PM

Second point, I *just* said that everything we had was invested on GLBSE, and I will be distributing claim codes as I get them. So what's your problem? Are you mentally retarded?

How did the mining rigs on order for your mining fund get to be invested on GLBSE? Are you going to cancel those orders and share the BTC amonst your shareholders? Or are you hoping they'll be forgotten and you can keep them? You've said a few times in this thread that EVERYTHING you had was invested on GLBSE - yet that isn't actually true is it?

Lol just fuck off dude. You got nothing, and the best you can do is necroaccount and necrothread.

You honestly think you can just ignore legitimate issues and that the mods will just lock the thread?

GL with that lol.

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The quotes I quoted have not been edited in any way, excepting the fact that they have been truncated and I've added some emphasis.

Any moderator with access to logs can see that usagi's addition of [s] tags happened AFTER this thread's creation date.
I will not be posting again in this thread until a moderator denies this fact or requests more information from me. I have gathered the facts pertinent to this thread to the best of my ability, and it is up to the moderators to decide what they believe is the best course of action.

Thank you all, have a nice day, and enjoy watching the Stratos freefall.

You made this thread in full knowledge of two shareholder motions discussing the points I made in the OP (of the message you quoted). In short you're full of shit, nimda.

Don't you get it nimda? Your accusation is retarded, it never had any merit, and you look like an idiot now.

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Quote from: capn noe on October 11, 2012, 05:24:21 AM

Quote from: capn noe on October 11, 2012, 05:24:21 AM

I will now reiterate that Nimda's accusation in the OP is total bullshit and this thread should be closed by a moderator.

See, this is why you are an idiot. This thread is now an ongoing discussion monitoring your progress.

No, it's not. Nimda made a bullshit accusation based on a post which had been retracted. It had strikehrough (i.e. [ and s) around it. He edited it and posted it here. It was total bullshit. This is not "NOW" some other accusation. The accusation he made was crap in and of itself as well. Nimda doesn't even understand what he was quoting. Nimda's scam accusation is a classic case of trolling. Think; it's been open for quite a while and a mod hasn't even asked a question about it? Second point, GLBSE is gone and so are all my companies. So this thread is completely and utterly meaningless.

Lets see if you can pay your debts.

I have a better idea. Let's see if you can stfu and mind your own business.

The quotes I quoted have not been edited in any way, excepting the fact that they have been truncated and I've added some emphasis.

Any moderator with access to logs can see that usagi's addition of [s] tags happened AFTER this thread's creation date.
I will not be posting again in this thread until a moderator denies this fact or requests more information from me. I have gathered the facts pertinent to this thread to the best of my ability, and it is up to the moderators to decide what they believe is the best course of action.

Thank you all, have a nice day, and enjoy watching the Stratos freefall.

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Quote from: Deprived on October 14, 2012, 09:01:03 AM

Second point, I *just* said that everything we had was invested on GLBSE, and I will be distributing claim codes as I get them. So what's your problem? Are you mentally retarded?

How did the mining rigs on order for your mining fund get to be invested on GLBSE? Are you going to cancel those orders and share the BTC amonst your shareholders? Or are you hoping they'll be forgotten and you can keep them? You've said a few times in this thread that EVERYTHING you had was invested on GLBSE - yet that isn't actually true is it?

Lol just fuck off dude. You got nothing, and the best you can do is necroaccount and necrothread.

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Quote from: Bitcoin Oz on October 11, 2012, 07:02:30 PM

Second point, I *just* said that everything we had was invested on GLBSE, and I will be distributing claim codes as I get them. So what's your problem? Are you mentally retarded?

How did the mining rigs on order for your mining fund get to be invested on GLBSE? Are you going to cancel those orders and share the BTC amonst your shareholders? Or are you hoping they'll be forgotten and you can keep them? You've said a few times in this thread that EVERYTHING you had was invested on GLBSE - yet that isn't actually true is it?

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Quote from: Bitcoin Oz on October 11, 2012, 04:24:31 AM

Quote from: Puppet on October 11, 2012, 03:26:10 AM

Usagi just deleted all his posts and his website.

Just because glbse went down its not cool to try and rip off your shareholders if that is the intention.

Everything we had was listed on the GLBSE. As soon as I'm given claim codes (or whatever) by Nefario I will distribute them to former shareholders.

I've been in contact with some of the larger shareholders so far and they've been made aware of the situation.

I mean take BITCOINRS, NASTY and oh, say, BTC-MINING for example. As soon as they refund the money I paid for the x amount of shares we held, I'll be happy to pass it along.

I will now reiterate that Nimda's accusation in the OP is total bullshit and this thread should be closed by a moderator.

Why would they refund money if you can claim the shares ? None of those mentioned have declared a buy back. The contracts dont say "In the event of glbse closing all shareholders will get paid out". At this moment we are all waiting for Nefario to send us a list of shareholders. BITCOINRS has $5000 worth of greyhounds still racing which Nefario can't touch and which still belong to shareholders Tongue

I dont intend selling them off just because glbse no longer exists. If burnside sets up a bitcoin stock exchange most likely we will go there to manage dividends and motions etc.

Exactly. I've said many times I'll be passing along claim codes for shares.

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Quote from: repentance on October 11, 2012, 04:12:12 PM

And you clearly have no clue who our clients or what our contracts were.

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Like I said -- no fucking clue. Why did you post that screenshot? Are you trying to make yourself look stupid? What are you trying to prove?

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Quote from: Bitcoin Oz on October 11, 2012, 04:24:31 AM

Quote from: Puppet on October 11, 2012, 03:26:10 AM

Usagi just deleted all his posts and his website.

Just because glbse went down its not cool to try and rip off your shareholders if that is the intention.

Everything we had was listed on the GLBSE. As soon as I'm given claim codes (or whatever) by Nefario I will distribute them to former shareholders.

I've been in contact with some of the larger shareholders so far and they've been made aware of the situation.

I mean take BITCOINRS, NASTY and oh, say, BTC-MINING for example. As soon as they refund the money I paid for the x amount of shares we held, I'll be happy to pass it along.

I will now reiterate that Nimda's accusation in the OP is total bullshit and this thread should be closed by a moderator.

Why would they refund money if you can claim the shares ? None of those mentioned have declared a buy back. The contracts dont say "In the event of glbse closing all shareholders will get paid out". At this moment we are all waiting for Nefario to send us a list of shareholders. BITCOINRS has $5000 worth of greyhounds still racing which Nefario can't touch and which still belong to shareholders Tongue

I dont intend selling them off just because glbse no longer exists. If burnside sets up a bitcoin stock exchange most likely we will go there to manage dividends and motions etc.

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Quote from: deeplink on October 11, 2012, 02:01:41 PM

I assume, when my bfl is down for whatever reason, Usagi pays for downtime.
Don`t you Usagi?
Otherwise, refund (8 months at 1 BTC so 8 BTC) to 15L2wD5cy3UT97XFTuR1XveSMdvEV43KfN

Greetz

I just noticed, you, Usagi, deleted all post you made according to CPA and your other assets.
So your business is over.

So send 8 btc to 15L2wD5cy3UT97XFTuR1XveSMdvEV43KfN

Thanks

PsychoticBoy, this request is badly misplaced in this thread. This is the scam accusations forum. You should have contacted me in PM about this before posting here as I clearly am still present on these forums and have said multiple times I have no intention of walking away from existing contracts.

In fact just a couple of posts above yours I specifically mention the contract with ABM and state that I intend to keep it. So your request here makes absolutely no sense. In fact i'm a little upset with you at falling in with the trolls on here and saying what you said, as if you cannot read what I wrote just three posts above your own.

Every time you asked me to pay you I paid out right away without question and I paid more than you requested. How about coming to my defense on this thread as a customer I've served very well instead of basically attacking me on the scam accusation forum and demanding repayment?

I've contacted you privately about this and explained the situation, so do me a favor and delete your posts from this thread, and try to be a bit more considerate next time.

PsychoticBoy, has this been settled to your satisfaction?

I have no complaints against usagi, all is settled.

If GLBSE would still be up, usagi would still insure ABM.

Greetz

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Quote from: greyhawk on October 11, 2012, 07:34:25 AM

And you clearly have no clue who our clients or what our contracts were.

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Think; it's been open for quite a while and a mod hasn't even asked a question about it?

That is not very surprising. Mod interaction or non-interaction does not constitute approval or disapproval of scammer accusations. Look at the very clear and obvious scam accusations leveled at dank for misreprenting a fraudulent product as being the one ordered. No mod showed up to ask questions, but instead the defrauded customer Rarity was banned, again without mod comment.

That is because this forum is run by an oligarchy and if the mods started to giving out scammer tags to people that really deserved it, then they would end up with them as well.

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Quote from: capn noe on October 11, 2012, 10:09:25 AM

I assume, when my bfl is down for whatever reason, Usagi pays for downtime.
Don`t you Usagi?
Otherwise, refund (8 months at 1 BTC so 8 BTC) to 15L2wD5cy3UT97XFTuR1XveSMdvEV43KfN

Greetz

I just noticed, you, Usagi, deleted all post you made according to CPA and your other assets.
So your business is over.

So send 8 btc to 15L2wD5cy3UT97XFTuR1XveSMdvEV43KfN

Thanks

PsychoticBoy, this request is badly misplaced in this thread. This is the scam accusations forum. You should have contacted me in PM about this before posting here as I clearly am still present on these forums and have said multiple times I have no intention of walking away from existing contracts.

In fact just a couple of posts above yours I specifically mention the contract with ABM and state that I intend to keep it. So your request here makes absolutely no sense. In fact i'm a little upset with you at falling in with the trolls on here and saying what you said, as if you cannot read what I wrote just three posts above your own.

Every time you asked me to pay you I paid out right away without question and I paid more than you requested. How about coming to my defense on this thread as a customer I've served very well instead of basically attacking me on the scam accusation forum and demanding repayment?

I've contacted you privately about this and explained the situation, so do me a favor and delete your posts from this thread, and try to be a bit more considerate next time.

PsychoticBoy, has this been settled to your satisfaction?

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You know this thread ain't gettin' closed.

Then this entire forum and all it's mods are full of shit.

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Usagi, you are retarded. Might as well put that disclaimer in your sig then.

Idiot. You know this thread ain't gettin' closed.

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Quote from: Puppet on October 11, 2012, 09:13:23 AM

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What coins are you referring to? Client's coins; yes, I will definately be keeping my client's coins that they paid, and completing my obligation to them. The only remaining client I am aware of is ABM, who prepaid for a year on insurance for one FPGA single. So yes, I will be keeping PsychoticBoy's coins, why on earth would I give them back?

Investor's coins --> See this is why you are a fucktard. First, I *just* said I will be paying back the loans I took out. So you can't read. Second point, I *just* said that everything we had was invested on GLBSE, and I will be distributing claim codes as I get them. So what's your problem? Are you mentally retarded?

So to be clear; you intend to honor your contractual obligations to Nyan.A bondholders by buying back all Nyan.A bonds at 1 BTC? You intend to honor CPA's contractual obligation to BMF shareholders that their shares have a NAV of at least 1 BTC? If so, why did you delete the asset lists and contracts?

BTW, my memory is bad, but I can read, and I have screenshots that help me remember.

Yes, let's be very clear. Fuck off, puppet. If you have screenshots, go ahead and make an ass of yourself by posting them. Make sure you post the whole contract so we can see exactly what my obligation is in this situation. We're all waiting.

I reiterate that Nimda's accusation in the OP is frivolous and without merit and that this thread should be closed by a moderator.

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What coins are you referring to? Client's coins; yes, I will definately be keeping my client's coins that they paid, and completing my obligation to them. The only remaining client I am aware of is ABM, who prepaid for a year on insurance for one FPGA single. So yes, I will be keeping PsychoticBoy's coins, why on earth would I give them back?

Investor's coins --> See this is why you are a fucktard. First, I *just* said I will be paying back the loans I took out. So you can't read. Second point, I *just* said that everything we had was invested on GLBSE, and I will be distributing claim codes as I get them. So what's your problem? Are you mentally retarded?

So to be clear; you intend to honor your contractual obligations to Nyan.A bondholders by buying back all Nyan.A bonds at 1 BTC? You intend to honor CPA's contractual obligation to BMF shareholders that their shares have a NAV of at least 1 BTC? If so, why did you delete the asset lists and contracts?

BTW, my memory is bad, but I can read, and I have screenshots that help me remember.

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Quote from: Puppet on October 11, 2012, 08:43:58 AM

Quote from: Puppet on October 11, 2012, 08:43:58 AM

Second point, GLBSE is gone and so are all my companies. So this thread is completely and utterly meaningless.

So you think you can just keep all your clients and investors coins?

What coins are you referring to? Client's coins; yes, I will definately be keeping my client's coins that they paid, and completing my obligation to them. The only remaining client I am aware of is ABM, who prepaid for a year on insurance for one FPGA single. So yes, I will be keeping PsychoticBoy's coins, why on earth would I give them back?

Investor's coins --> See this is why you are a fucktard. First, I *just* said I will be paying back the loans I took out. So you can't read. Second point, I *just* said that everything we had was invested on GLBSE, and I will be distributing claim codes as I get them. So what's your problem? Are you mentally retarded?

AFAIR, CPA "insurance" contracts had no clause that let you off the hook if GLBSE stopped trading. Bit it did have a clause that you would reimburse your customers shareholders in the event they defaulted, which is quite likely to happen to more than a few now.

"AFAIR" -- ya but we've *just* seen you have issues remembering posts you're replying to let alone ones made 2 or 3 up from that. So your AFAIR isn't worth shit. And you clearly have no clue who our clients or what our contracts were.

I reiterate that Nimda's claim in the OP is frivolous and without merit, and that this thread should be closed by a moderator.

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Second point, GLBSE is gone and so are all my companies. So this thread is completely and utterly meaningless.

So you think you can just keep all your clients and investors coins?
AFAIR, CPA "insurance" contracts had no clause that let you off the hook if GLBSE stopped trading. Bit it did have a clause that you would reimburse your customers shareholders in the event they defaulted, which is quite likely to happen to more than a few now.

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[...] Think; it's been open for quite a while and a mod hasn't even asked a question about it? [...]

Maybe people had better things to do the last couple of days then reading your drunk whining posts?

[...] Second point, GLBSE is gone and so are all my companies. So this thread is completely and utterly meaningless.

No it is not. You can still be labeled a scammer after you close your companies. Pirate got a scammer tag after he was gone. So did Nefario.

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Quote from: greyhawk on October 11, 2012, 04:30:23 AM

Think; it's been open for quite a while and a mod hasn't even asked a question about it?

That is not very surprising. Mod interaction or non-interaction does not constitute approval or disapproval of scammer accusations. Look at the very clear and obvious scam accusations leveled at dank for misreprenting a fraudulent product as being the one ordered. No mod showed up to ask questions, but instead the defrauded customer Rarity was banned, again without mod comment.

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The Usagi will return in a blaze of glory to lead the forums into a new age of prosperity. Just like Jesus.

He can't return if he never leaves.

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Quote from: usagi on October 11, 2012, 04:29:23 AM

I will now reiterate that Nimda's accusation in the OP is total bullshit and this thread should be closed by a moderator.

See, this is why you are an idiot. This thread is now an ongoing discussion monitoring your progress. Lets see if you can pay your debts.

You could hedge your risk with a wager, usagi.

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Quote from: Puppet on October 11, 2012, 03:26:10 AM

Usagi just deleted all his posts and his website.

No I did not JUST do that. I did it last week, because I'm sick of your bullshit. Everything I say and do on here is twisted by you and your cronies into some kind of scam accusation. Fuck you. I wrote a letter to shareholders saying I was going to do this. My presence on these forums is over because of retards just like you.

And I did not delete ALL my posts. Notably I left open the post regarding the loans I took out because I intend to pay them back.

Oh please keep your word on this.

And another scammer gone (still lots to go).

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Quote from: Bitcoin Oz on October 11, 2012, 04:24:31 AM

Quote from: Puppet on October 11, 2012, 03:26:10 AM

Usagi just deleted all his posts and his website.

Just because glbse went down its not cool to try and rip off your shareholders if that is the intention.

Everything we had was listed on the GLBSE. As soon as I'm given claim codes (or whatever) by Nefario I will distribute them to former shareholders.

I've been in contact with some of the larger shareholders so far and they've been made aware of the situation.

I mean take BITCOINRS, NASTY and oh, say, BTC-MINING for example. As soon as they refund the money I paid for the x amount of shares we held, I'll be happy to pass it along.

I will now reiterate that Nimda's accusation in the OP is total bullshit and this thread should be closed by a moderator.

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Quote from: Bitcoin Oz on October 11, 2012, 04:24:31 AM

Quote from: Puppet on October 11, 2012, 03:26:10 AM

Usagi just deleted all his posts and his website.

Just because glbse went down its not cool to try and rip off your shareholders if that is the intention.

The Usagi will return in a blaze of glory to lead the forums into a new age of prosperity. Just like Jesus.

BTW, bitcoin.me . Hats off to you for being the only one taking responsibility in this mess.

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Quote from: Puppet on October 11, 2012, 03:26:10 AM

Usagi just deleted all his posts and his website.

No I did not JUST do that. I did it last week, because I'm sick of your bullshit. Everything I say and do on here is twisted by you and your cronies into some kind of scam accusation. Fuck you. I wrote a letter to shareholders saying I was going to do this. My presence on these forums is over because of retards just like you.

And I did not delete ALL my posts. Notably I left open the post regarding the loans I took out because I intend to pay them back.

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Quote from: Puppet on October 11, 2012, 03:26:10 AM

Usagi just deleted all his posts and his website.

Just because glbse went down its not cool to try and rip off your shareholders if that is the intention.

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Quote from: Puppet on October 11, 2012, 03:26:10 AM

Usagi just deleted all his posts and his website.

Who didn't see that coming?

I've got the CPA NAV Insurance Contract (CPA Account #12), CPA NAV Insurance Contract (CPA Account #15) and Account 16 CPA Shareholder Protection Agreement screen-capped, if anyone needs them.

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Usagi just deleted all his posts and his website.

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Quote from: greyhawk on October 08, 2012, 09:13:29 PM

Quote from: Bitcoin Oz on October 08, 2012, 08:53:38 PM

The average person breaks 3 laws a day just going about their business.

Why do you break so many laws, noagendamarket? That's not very nice.

I didnt say I was average.

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Quote from: greyhawk on October 08, 2012, 09:13:29 PM

Quote from: Bitcoin Oz on October 08, 2012, 08:53:38 PM

The average person breaks 3 laws a day just going about their business.

Why do you break so many laws, noagendamarket? That's not very nice.

Watch out Second Life, the statists are coming.

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Quote from: Bitcoin Oz on October 08, 2012, 08:53:38 PM

The average person breaks 3 laws a day just going about their business.

Why do you break so many laws, noagendamarket? That's not very nice.

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Quote from: Bitcoin Oz on October 08, 2012, 04:47:57 AM

Quote from: greyhawk on October 08, 2012, 04:37:02 AM

I don't think the judge will be swayed by your argumentation along "You are a troll and stupid". Roll Eyes

For what crime exactly Tongue

Issuing unregulated securitites of course. Laws don't simply disappear just because Bitcoin. A lot of people seem to think so. They are very very wrong about that.

The average person breaks 3 laws a day just going about their business.

GLBSE allowed people to setup micro businesses without needing to fill out mountains of paperwork and that's considered a crime Roll Eyes

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Quote from: repentance on October 08, 2012, 05:09:03 AM

No, this is inaccurate, I did not empty all my my recent threads. Several were left over including the thread keeping track of the money which I owe to people.

This is the problem though, isn't it? Instead of asking me what happened you just think you know. That is why you are stupid.

Wait, you are saying "Not all, just most" right?

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Quote from: greyhawk on October 08, 2012, 05:03:57 AM

Quote from: Bitcoin Oz on October 08, 2012, 04:47:57 AM

Quote from: greyhawk on October 08, 2012, 04:37:02 AM

I don't think the judge will be swayed by your argumentation along "You are a troll and stupid". Roll Eyes

For what crime exactly Tongue

Issuing unregulated securitites of course. Laws don't simply disappear just because Bitcoin. A lot of people seem to think so. They are very very wrong about that.

I was going to say crimes against intelligence.

If there were laws about that, we wouldn't have governments in the first place, but then we'd have no laws, so SNAKE YOU HAVE CREATED A TIME PARADOX!!! FISSION MAILED!

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Quote from: repentance on October 08, 2012, 05:09:03 AM

Quote from: greyhawk on October 08, 2012, 05:03:57 AM

Quote from: Bitcoin Oz on October 08, 2012, 04:47:57 AM

Quote from: greyhawk on October 08, 2012, 04:37:02 AM

I don't think the judge will be swayed by your argumentation along "You are a troll and stupid". Roll Eyes

For what crime exactly Tongue

Issuing unregulated securitites of course. Laws don't simply disappear just because Bitcoin. A lot of people seem to think so. They are very very wrong about that.

I was going to say crimes against intelligence.

Pics or it didnt happen.

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Quote from: greyhawk on October 08, 2012, 05:03:57 AM

Quote from: Bitcoin Oz on October 08, 2012, 04:47:57 AM

Quote from: greyhawk on October 08, 2012, 04:37:02 AM

I don't think the judge will be swayed by your argumentation along "You are a troll and stupid". Roll Eyes

For what crime exactly Tongue

Issuing unregulated securitites of course. Laws don't simply disappear just because Bitcoin. A lot of people seem to think so. They are very very wrong about that.

I was going to say crimes against intelligence.

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Quote from: Bitcoin Oz on October 08, 2012, 04:47:57 AM

Quote from: greyhawk on October 08, 2012, 04:37:02 AM

I don't think the judge will be swayed by your argumentation along "You are a troll and stupid". Roll Eyes

For what crime exactly Tongue

Issuing unregulated securitites of course. Laws don't simply disappear just because Bitcoin. A lot of people seem to think so. They are very very wrong about that.

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Quote from: greyhawk on October 08, 2012, 04:37:02 AM

I don't think the judge will be swayed by your argumentation along "You are a troll and stupid". Roll Eyes

For what crime exactly Tongue

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Quote from: greyhawk on October 08, 2012, 04:37:02 AM

I don't think the judge will be swayed by your argumentation along "You are a troll and stupid". Roll Eyes

Fortunately, the internet never forgets because this isn't the only place usagi has been deleting stuff. I've helpfully screen-capped stuff just in case usagi ever wants to restore it.

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I don't think the judge will be swayed by your argumentation along "You are a troll and stupid". Roll Eyes

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Quote from: greyhawk on October 07, 2012, 12:13:37 PM

I like how the usagi has now emptied all of its recent threads.

This will not help. Law enforcement surely already has copies.

Not to mention how many of usagi's posts were quoted and/or screen-capped.

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I like how the usagi has now emptied all of its recent threads.

This will not help. Law enforcement surely already has copies.

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Despite being online 9 hours ago, usagi hasn't posted for 36 hours. That must be a record for him/her.

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Quote from: nimda on October 05, 2012, 07:36:44 AM

Quote from: nimda on October 05, 2012, 07:36:44 AM

because he felt that insurance should cover the cost of the premium -- a totally ridiculous concept. He supported it wit some kind of theory .. staked capital, that was based on a twisted form of opportunity cost.. and he wouldn't shut up.

Again, my model (not theory) correctly evaluated the risk of different bonds. It was mathematically sound, and I invite you to attempt to prove otherwise.

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He got very personal over it. I had to ban him from posting in my threads because he was that much of a problem. I am seriously not suprised to see him come up with some bullshit scam accusation against me, just in an attempt to kick me when I am down.

You're the one getting personal. Correct math is never personal.

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Can a mod lock these threads please?

Absolutely not.

What was the model?

This is rather off-topic (thanks usagi), but the model is posted here: A risk/reward analysis of insured pirate: YARR, PPT.X, GIPPT, Hashking, Goat
A more accessible explanation of the model is posted later in the thread: A Pirate-Pass-Through paying MORE than 7% Weekly!. It is mathematically equivalent to the calculations done in the first post; simply replace "exposed capital" with "lender B."

It does not factor in counterparty risk; that is for each investor to decide individually.

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because he felt that insurance should cover the cost of the premium -- a totally ridiculous concept. He supported it wit some kind of theory .. staked capital, that was based on a twisted form of opportunity cost.. and he wouldn't shut up.

Again, my model (not theory) correctly evaluated the risk of different bonds. It was mathematically sound, and I invite you to attempt to prove otherwise.

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He got very personal over it. I had to ban him from posting in my threads because he was that much of a problem. I am seriously not suprised to see him come up with some bullshit scam accusation against me, just in an attempt to kick me when I am down.

You're the one getting personal. Correct math is never personal.

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Can a mod lock these threads please?

Absolutely not.

What was the model?

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Quote from: guruvan on October 02, 2012, 05:52:12 AM

because he felt that insurance should cover the cost of the premium -- a totally ridiculous concept. He supported it wit some kind of theory .. staked capital, that was based on a twisted form of opportunity cost.. and he wouldn't shut up.

Again, my model (not theory) correctly evaluated the risk of different bonds. It was mathematically sound, and I invite you to attempt to prove otherwise.

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He got very personal over it. I had to ban him from posting in my threads because he was that much of a problem. I am seriously not suprised to see him come up with some bullshit scam accusation against me, just in an attempt to kick me when I am down.

You're the one getting personal. Correct math is never personal.

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Can a mod lock these threads please?

Absolutely not.

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Quote from: greyhawk on October 02, 2012, 04:43:18 AM

Quote from: greyhawk on October 02, 2012, 04:43:18 AM

Lol do you want me to run a motion on it? Oh wait, you're not a shareholder, and you have a history of trolling. Suprise suprise.

No, actually, Nimda does not have a history of trolling. What he does have is a history of calling out fraudulent behaviour when he sees it. That is NOT trolling. You should not misuse words in an attempt to wrongly discredit nimda. You claim to be an English teacher after all.

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This goes for the several people calling out fraudulent behavior.

Frankly, it makes you looks stupid, usagi, to continually be abusive, and call people stupid trolls for pointing out that your actions are consistent with fraud. You should instead be showing calmly how it is not, if indeed it isn't. But you don't seem to be able to do this.

It makes Usagi look stupid, and it really brings down the stands of communication and interaction for the community.

If "Can you please explain the NAV for xxx?" is trolling, the standards of trolling have really changed.

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Still looks like simple contract violation to me. NYAN.C should be liquidated and its assets given to NYAN.B.

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Quote from: greyhawk on October 02, 2012, 04:43:18 AM

Lol do you want me to run a motion on it? Oh wait, you're not a shareholder, and you have a history of trolling. Suprise suprise.

No, actually, Nimda does not have a history of trolling. What he does have is a history of calling out fraudulent behaviour when he sees it. That is NOT trolling. You should not misuse words in an attempt to wrongly discredit nimda. You claim to be an English teacher after all.

Amen to that.

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Lol do you want me to run a motion on it? Oh wait, you're not a shareholder, and you have a history of trolling. Suprise suprise.

No, actually, Nimda does not have a history of trolling. What he does have is a history of calling out fraudulent behaviour when he sees it. That is NOT trolling. You should not misuse words in an attempt to wrongly discredit nimda. You claim to be an English teacher after all.

+1000

This goes for the several people calling out fraudulent behavior.

Frankly, it makes you looks stupid, usagi, to continually be abusive, and call people stupid trolls for pointing out that your actions are consistent with fraud. You should instead be showing calmly how it is not, if indeed it isn't. But you don't seem to be able to do this.

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Lol do you want me to run a motion on it? Oh wait, you're not a shareholder, and you have a history of trolling. Suprise suprise.

No, actually, Nimda does not have a history of trolling. What he does have is a history of calling out fraudulent behaviour when he sees it. That is NOT trolling. You should not misuse words in an attempt to wrongly discredit nimda. You claim to be an English teacher after all.

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