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Quote from: BADecker on Today at 05:53:04 PM

The point doesn't revolve around this. At it's core, the point is why should my money be forced into paying something I am not in favor of?

There is an easy solution for that - move to Russia, your money will be spent on all of your favorite things there.

Quote from: BADecker on Today at 05:53:04 PM

Make all of USAID a volunteer thing... and all kinds of other parts of government funding, as well. Do you want to volunteer money for USAID? Do it. but don't force me to do it.

Make USAID into a website with lists of USAID projects. Let me fund the projects I like, or none of them if I don't want... credit card, check, or any other way. That's the only place USAID should get its money. And if they don't get enough, let them advertise harder... with simple truth, that it's voluntary, and it is good for starving people in other lands... rather than steal from me.

Congratulations, you invented charity. Except Elon's boyscouts don't do any such things as "website with projects", they just destroy things because they can, so not sure why you're making this shit up. Must be some sort of coping mechanism. Do you feel they're coming for your Social Security and Medicare? Who's gonna donate for that?

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Quote from: LTU_btc on February 05, 2025, 03:31:21 PM

He is partially right, because they were spending insane amountsvof money for ridiculous things.

If the goal was to get rid of the "ridiculous" things, they could have done it without gutting the agency. Obviously the goal was to make a big show of fighting "waste" and "woke" and possibly retaliate for the investigation into Starlink shenanigans. A few million people here and there losing access to food or clean water or medication is irrelevant to our billionaire nazi president.

To put this into perspective, USAID budget was < 1% of total US federal budget and arguably best bang for the buck of it all, considering how much a dollar can buy in poor countries. That's not to say there isn't waste or corruption or some CIA bullshit involved but normal people don't burn their house to get rid of cockroaches.

The point doesn't revolve around this. At it's core, the point is why should my money be forced into paying something I am not in favor of?

Make all of USAID a volunteer thing... and all kinds of other parts of government funding, as well. Do you want to volunteer money for USAID? Do it. but don't force me to do it.

Make USAID into a website with lists of USAID projects. Let me fund the projects I like, or none of them if I don't want... credit card, check, or any other way. That's the only place USAID should get its money. And if they don't get enough, let them advertise harder... with simple truth, that it's voluntary, and it is good for starving people in other lands... rather than steal from me.

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Quote from: LTU_btc on February 05, 2025, 03:31:21 PM

He is partially right, because they were spending insane amountsvof money for ridiculous things.

If the goal was to get rid of the "ridiculous" things, they could have done it without gutting the agency. Obviously the goal was to make a big show of fighting "waste" and "woke" and possibly retaliate for the investigation into Starlink shenanigans. A few million people here and there losing access to food or clean water or medication is irrelevant to our billionaire nazi president.

To put this into perspective, USAID budget was < 1% of total US federal budget and arguably best bang for the buck of it all, considering how much a dollar can buy in poor countries. That's not to say there isn't waste or corruption or some CIA bullshit involved but normal people don't burn their house to get rid of cockroaches.

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Quote from: yoseph on February 05, 2025, 07:42:05 AM

Am I the only who thinks that Trump is right in closing down USAID, The money being spent there is outrageous and it doesnt benefit the US people in anyway. And as an African i can say that the countries that are given the money just end up misuing the money.

An independent organization of the United States through which they provide financial assistance for the development of the least developed and developing countries of the world. Trump has given an excuse that this is a waste of money and has stopped funding. As a result, poor countries will be deprived of food supplies, the poor will live in a worse life and many people may die due to lack of food, which is an inhuman decision.

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From the video I watched, Trump was cutting the USAID because he was focused on the amount of money that was given to this organization, little was being done by them. he called a large amount of money that was deployed for combating COVID, yet the COVID vaccine didn't reach a lot of people.

So, from what I picked up from the video, it's more of money laundering by the organization, yet no much impact has been felt. So, he's cutting it off, and other nations too should buckle up in supporting their citizens with health aids and other aids.

I believe that with time, everything will clear whether it's for good or bad. I mean, people pull out of organizations and join back in; people dissolve organizations, and they reinstate it back so time will tell.

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Quote from: Hispo on February 07, 2025, 06:16:59 PM

Quote from: ? on February 06, 2025, 03:00:59 PM

..., what will now happen to them imagine countries that have being receiving hiv/aids drugs from usaid, all the little children that usaid have helped during war out break what will become of then , this is one of the reasons why they are world power, they should finish what they have started.

The problem with Trump is he does not understand intermediate measures when comes to fulfilling his objectives or agenda, USAID was giving some funds to LGBT communities abroad, for example, so immediately there is no good which is enough for Trump to consider to keep USAID up and running, so people have access to food and important anti-retroviral drugs. If he was smart and wanted to continue to give an image of a powerful and caring United States, he would have filtered out those programs which aligned with the political left and allow those which had something to do with medicine and good to keep going. This just makes the country and the Republican party to look selfish and short-sighted in the eye of the rest of the international community .

I would agree with you, but in the other direction. Trump may not understand the good he is doing for other nation by making them responsible for themselves, and by weakening the Deep State that is sucking the money right out from under them.

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Quote from: ? on February 06, 2025, 03:00:59 PM

..., what will now happen to them imagine countries that have being receiving hiv/aids drugs from usaid, all the little children that usaid have helped during war out break what will become of then , this is one of the reasons why they are world power, they should finish what they have started.

The problem with Trump is he does not understand intermediate measures when comes to fulfilling his objectives or agenda, USAID was giving some funds to LGBT communities abroad, for example, so immediately there is no good which is enough for Trump to consider to keep USAID up and running, so people have access to food and important anti-retroviral drugs. If he was smart and wanted to continue to give an image of a powerful and caring United States, he would have filtered out those programs which aligned with the political left and allow those which had something to do with medicine and good to keep going. This just makes the country and the Republican party to look selfish and short-sighted in the eye of the rest of the international community .

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Am not saying that trump is totally wrong for wanting to close USAID, analysis have being made ,2023 $68bn of the US fund was allocated to USAID, the trump administration discovered that this funds are being abused and not being used for the main agenda, imagine USAID giving grant worth about $1.5m to the LGBTQ community, are this not waste of US money of taxes payers, but that outside USAID have being in existence since 1960 bringing humanitarian assistant global, shuting it now with course alot of damage to the world in general, imagine 10,000 staff of USAID being unemployed, country that have being depending on this program, what will now happen to them imagine countries that have being receiving hiv/aids drugs from usaid, all the little children that usaid have helped during war out break what will become of then , this is one of the reasons why they are world power, they should finish what they have started.

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Quote from: ? on February 06, 2025, 08:57:45 AM

I don't really think if trump took the decision of closing USAID with his normal sense,I think his being manipulated,by who I don't know,but action has be taking before it we be too late.
Trump closing USAID we lead to destruction and many down fall of countries that mostly depend on what is coming from the USAID.

And who would benefit from the closure of USAaid? That is the question.
If we consider much of that money was being sent to small and under-developed nations in both Africa and Central America, it would seems to me this only will prompt people to try to cross illegally into the United States or Europe in the future, as dependence of those countries of the United States is pretty much obvious...
Trump wants people of central America and south America to stay in their home countries, and at the same time he is cutting funding which is supposed to be used to help to improve quality of life in those underdeveloped countries.
It is a little contradiction, but still in the mind of the average MAGA follower it makes complete sense and is aligned with American interests.

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I don't really think if trump took the decision of closing USAID with his normal sense,I think his being manipulated,by who I don't know,but action has be taking before it we be too late.
Trump closing USAID we lead to destruction and many down fall of countries that mostly depend on what is coming from the USAID.

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Quote from: yoseph on February 05, 2025, 07:42:05 AM

Am I the only who thinks that Trump is right in closing down USAID, The money being spent there is outrageous and it doesnt benefit the US people in anyway. And as an African i can say that the countries that are given the money just end up misuing the money.

The closing down of this organization is a wake-up call to most countries that depend on the US instead of seeking means to solve their problems. USAID has supported many projects in my country. But many of them have been handled by corrupt government officials who will end up misappropriating some of the funds or materials embarked for some projects.

The government of my country recently allocated some funds for HIV drugs because the US has stopped financing them. If Trump has said his government is for Americans, other countries should brace up for the hard time ahead.

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Time will tell if he's right, but it's too early to judge. But he seems to be doing everything right.

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Quote from: LTU_btc on February 05, 2025, 03:31:21 PM

But on the other hand, things like USAID is needed to keep USA influence around the world with soft power. I think that after closurevof USAID, China may come to their place. I'm not sure that Trump want it.

The keywords here is "to keep the USA influence around the world with soft power".

Ordinary US citizens will see the aid as non beneficial but to US government, it's very necessary to keep their influence on vulnerable countries and their citizens.

Apart from the influence, I don't see much benefit even to the receiving countries and it's just like a total waste of resources. Most of the project carried out by this aids are either substandard, abandoned or not necessary in the beneficiary areas. I blame the African countries and their government thou for their utmost corruption practices that prevents them from doing to their citizens what USAID is doing.

Maybe this is the right time for them to change the narrative.

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Donald Trump, is clear on his stance on focusing on America, and Americans so I'm not in surprised that he has ended USAID. Dependant on America, by other countries is much and it's probably weighing down on the country. Moreover it's making these countries that are receiving the aid not to be proactive and think outside the box to become more creative and stop depending so much on external supports. How are we even sure that these monies goes directly to what they're mapped out for, I wouldn't be surprised if the US aid will be channeling into private pockets by corrupt government officials. I hope that this will make aid receiving countries to become more productive and work towards being self sufficient as independent countries.

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Quote from: yoseph on February 05, 2025, 07:42:05 AM

Am I the only who thinks that Trump is right in closing down USAID, The money being spent there is outrageous and it doesnt benefit the US people in anyway. And as an African i can say that the countries that are given the money just end up misuing the money.

Yes (as in he was right in doing so). And I have seen foreign language children's books in Africa sponsored by USAID. I even have one in my bookshelf somewhere. But I can't find it.

This is the kind of stuff the local governments should be writing themselves, if they didn't have rampant corruption problems.

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If Gates has a hand in supporting it, it's probably bad.

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Slava Ukraini!

He is partially right, because they were spending insane amountsvof money for ridiculous things. For example:
$1.5 million to advance DEI in Serbia workplaces
- $70,000 for the production of a DEI musical in Ireland
- $47,000 for a trans opera in Colombia
- $32,000 for a trans comic book in Peru and list goes on
https://x.com/realdogeusa/status/1886518900659040686
But on the other hand, things like USAID is needed to keep USA influence around the world with soft power. I think that after closurevof USAID, China may come to their place. I'm not sure that Trump want it.

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Quote from: yoseph on February 05, 2025, 07:42:05 AM

Am I the only who thinks that Trump is right in closing down USAID, The money being spent there is outrageous and it doesnt benefit the US people in anyway. And as an African i can say that the countries that are given the money just end up misuing the money.

For D Trump to do this, it means he is a visioneer. If YOU say US is benefiting nothing, it sounds some how.
However,
The operation of USAID seems meaningless so far, since they actually have no achievement as the reason behind USAID Is not visible.

USAID IS ACTUALLY THEORITICAL NO PRACTICAL

All the billions spent so far doesn't benefit the common people

ONLY PAPER WORKS (INVINCIBLE COMPLETED PROJECTS)

Wicked collaborative between the USAID staffs and host nations staffs/leaders.

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Am I the only who thinks that Trump is right in closing down USAID, The money being spent there is outrageous and it doesnt benefit the US people in anyway. And as an African i can say that the countries that are given the money just end up misuing the money.

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