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August 18, 2017, 08:02:06 AM
#43
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legendary
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June 03, 2017, 09:31:31 AM
#42
any sites out and around that are popular?

Im looking to do micro betting on outcomes we can deem are guaranteed fair and not relying on knowing how to verify provably fair.
I am not finding any sire as per all of your criteria. If you are very much concerned about player vs player model, I guess you have the option of betting with your friends in real time. When you are preferring dealing in micro betting, I guess you can go for betting within your friends. Then there will be no need of any fairness proving system too... Wink
I never tried this type of betting in online. PVP betting is only possible in offline as you told we could play this betting with our friends. Some people said some sites allowed to play this betting in online, but I don't now how that process will work. Better play with your friends you will get more fun, and also there is no cheating in that betting.
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June 03, 2017, 09:16:47 AM
#41
any sites out and around that are popular?

Im looking to do micro betting on outcomes we can deem are guaranteed fair and not relying on knowing how to verify provably fair.
No. PvP betting is not popular among bitcoin community, it is really hard to come up with good pvp game and run fair and entertaining service.
I know some services which offered rock, paper scissors pvp game, but I don't think they captured attention of the community.

Micro betting is another problem - if someone is interested in micro gambling they usually just play with Dice, micro betting pvp is kinda pointless.


It's because it takes skill making a new game. Dice and roulette has been around for so long.

There is bustabit a crash based graph game. Then there is bitdouble. Which is the same thing but with roulette. I prefer them because you all in the same boat so it makes cheating less of s thing since you all lose not just one. When I say all I mean the ones who picked wrong.

But you cannot have the assurance of winning all the time and you can't be sure you only lose just one, because that's not a certain betting games of higher chances. Roulletes depends on the turn abouts of a game rolling at random points, so you can only expect lucky winning surprises. Although we find ot less cheating but you can't rely bigger winning profit chances, and all that is certain is the fun that it gives to you.
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June 03, 2017, 08:36:54 AM
#40
any sites out and around that are popular?

Im looking to do micro betting on outcomes we can deem are guaranteed fair and not relying on knowing how to verify provably fair.
No. PvP betting is not popular among bitcoin community, it is really hard to come up with good pvp game and run fair and entertaining service.
I know some services which offered rock, paper scissors pvp game, but I don't think they captured attention of the community.

Micro betting is another problem - if someone is interested in micro gambling they usually just play with Dice, micro betting pvp is kinda pointless.


It's because it takes skill making a new game. Dice and roulette has been around for so long.

There is bustabit a crash based graph game. Then there is bitdouble. Which is the same thing but with roulette. I prefer them because you all in the same boat so it makes cheating less of s thing since you all lose not just one. When I say all I mean the ones who picked wrong.
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June 02, 2017, 10:56:53 PM
#39
PvP betting.
I know of two of them thus far:
OneHash.com and  Betbtc.co from mentioned above.

I like the odds better from these sites than the normal betting sites. Grin
I don't find it better IMO, I prefer to bet on a sports book since they can offer me a lot of odds to choose from. PvP betting is only good if you are betting with the underdogs but if you are in the favorites, most bettors are on that side so the payout is definitely low.
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June 02, 2017, 07:04:57 PM
#38
PvP betting.
I know of two of them thus far:
OneHash.com and  Betbtc.co from mentioned above.

I like the odds better from these sites than the normal betting sites. Grin
legendary
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June 02, 2017, 05:45:46 PM
#37
any sites out and around that are popular?

Im looking to do micro betting on outcomes we can deem are guaranteed fair and not relying on knowing how to verify provably fair.
I am not finding any sire as per all of your criteria. If you are very much concerned about player vs player model, I guess you have the option of betting with your friends in real time. When you are preferring dealing in micro betting, I guess you can go for betting within your friends. Then there will be no need of any fairness proving system too... Wink
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June 02, 2017, 11:25:47 AM
#36
For sports betting, there is betbtc.co and fairlay. Although I get the impression that someone or a group are behind seeding fairlay bets.

Fairlay has more liquidity compared to betbtc,  but betbtc offerw live betting, although liquidity is quite low. They both are the closest thing to pvp/betfair/exchange betting.
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June 02, 2017, 10:29:24 AM
#35
If you're talking about PvP betting then I don't think you'll find a probably fair betting site which let's you do it.
action-gamble.com provides a service where you can play Rock paper scissors, but it's not quite popular.
sr. member
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June 02, 2017, 09:39:50 AM
#34
I haven't come across any gambling sites with user to user betting but I guess it's profitable and it's better betting with user rather than the house edge.
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June 02, 2017, 09:34:58 AM
#33
any sites out and around that are popular?

Im looking to do micro betting on outcomes we can deem are guaranteed fair and not relying on knowing how to verify provably fair.

No I haven't heard or seen any of such site's and it would be absolute madness if a site implements this. How in the world would they make profit? They would end up in looses, plus if one user does not pay, the site would be termed as a scam, so no that's a stupid idea and I would not bet with such sites as this are not trust worthy to me, would recommend you to stay away from such sites or methods as it won't have good results.
to me i personally never seen or heard about such site. although in physical casino we mostly play person to person betting, but in online world i never come across such thing. in my area some time even sitting on a road side we do p2p betting on different issues, but i think it is more risky because most of the time different conflict between the two parties arise which lead to a big clash between the two parties.
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June 02, 2017, 08:37:28 AM
#32
any sites out and around that are popular?

Im looking to do micro betting on outcomes we can deem are guaranteed fair and not relying on knowing how to verify provably fair.

This option, when implemented on a dice site for example, arouse abusing. People after claiming the faucet play with their alts, which means they always win in any case. Then they withdraw from an alt which has won the most.

If you want to play with other players and not with the gambling site play poker. And if they use bots, like I heard some sites do, that's even better because you can easily turn that to your advantage.
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June 02, 2017, 08:10:05 AM
#31
Of course there is!


www.onehash.com
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June 02, 2017, 06:50:38 AM
#30
If you are looking for pvp gambling then you are not that lucky, most of the gambler is not interested in that game, because to prove the provably fair is really hard and they afraid of bot playing the game, so only few developers want to make that game and so far it is not too popular
legendary
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June 02, 2017, 06:42:25 AM
#29
This is not the first time that someone is looking for PvP bitcoin gambling site, and still there is nothing new about that. Someone should try to make some site, I would like to play chess for example for bitcoins, dominoes, ship and some other games for sure.
Someone should pay attention on this more, for now nothing is happening about it but I hope in future we will have some nice site where we can play this games against others for some little buy-in, and maybe big one depends from how sure you are in yourself.
I don't think chess can be made provably fair, you can be cheated/lose easily to bots/intelligent players again and again. just play dice against house. Wink
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June 01, 2017, 11:20:45 PM
#28
any sites out and around that are popular?

Im looking to do micro betting on outcomes we can deem are guaranteed fair and not relying on knowing how to verify provably fair.

User to user games are hard to find. I think the rock paper scissors game is a versus game against another player. Though I am not very sure how fair that game is.

If you want to play games within the need to verify it, you can try to play games that are based on the blockchain.
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June 01, 2017, 12:08:38 PM
#27
This is not the first time that someone is looking for PvP bitcoin gambling site, and still there is nothing new about that. Someone should try to make some site, I would like to play chess for example for bitcoins, dominoes, ship and some other games for sure.
Someone should pay attention on this more, for now nothing is happening about it but I hope in future we will have some nice site where we can play this games against others for some little buy-in, and maybe big one depends from how sure you are in yourself.

It's easy to make one but the big problem is how to prove to players that they are battling with real human. Chess and other P2P battle is prone to bot that's why it's hard to get players for some game like that.

The only effective gambling P2P that I see is sports betting. They can use escrow but optional. Although it's more profitable to bet on sports betting site, this gambling type is good for side betting or extra gambling activity just for fun. It was actively present nowadays iin our local forum community.

its need big money to invest in gambling p2p especially to created a site like that, because we need to rent a good hosting server to make sure that our site will works good and don't have any problem with the loading of the sites. i think to prove to players that they are battling with real human is when we can offers to them to use web camera and mic when they are battling each other so they can feel when they are really battling with other person.
legendary
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June 01, 2017, 09:33:39 AM
#26
This is not the first time that someone is looking for PvP bitcoin gambling site, and still there is nothing new about that. Someone should try to make some site, I would like to play chess for example for bitcoins, dominoes, ship and some other games for sure.
Someone should pay attention on this more, for now nothing is happening about it but I hope in future we will have some nice site where we can play this games against others for some little buy-in, and maybe big one depends from how sure you are in yourself.

It's easy to make one but the big problem is how to prove to players that they are battling with real human. Chess and other P2P battle is prone to bot that's why it's hard to get players for some game like that.

The only effective gambling P2P that I see is sports betting. They can use escrow but optional. Although it's more profitable to bet on sports betting site, this gambling type is good for side betting or extra gambling activity just for fun. It was actively present nowadays iin our local forum community.
legendary
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June 01, 2017, 09:24:47 AM
#25
There is one sportsbetting website that offers this, https://sportsbet.io
You can basically make custom prop bets against other players, if I'm understanding this correctly.
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June 01, 2017, 08:50:05 AM
#24
This is not the first time that someone is looking for PvP bitcoin gambling site, and still there is nothing new about that. Someone should try to make some site, I would like to play chess for example for bitcoins, dominoes, ship and some other games for sure.
Someone should pay attention on this more, for now nothing is happening about it but I hope in future we will have some nice site where we can play this games against others for some little buy-in, and maybe big one depends from how sure you are in yourself.
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June 01, 2017, 08:31:34 AM
#23
any sites out and around that are popular?

Im looking to do micro betting on outcomes we can deem are guaranteed fair and not relying on knowing how to verify provably fair.

No I haven't heard or seen any of such site's and it would be absolute madness if a site implements this. How in the world would they make profit? They would end up in looses, plus if one user does not pay, the site would be termed as a scam, so no that's a stupid idea and I would not bet with such sites as this are not trust worthy to me, would recommend you to stay away from such sites or methods as it won't have good results.
sr. member
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June 01, 2017, 07:01:59 AM
#22
I don't think you'll have an rasy time finding a site like that dude. might as well just bet with your friends. that way you're also sure that it would be a fair betting : D

I also haven't seen any p2p site for betting online but the idea is good. Just like we use torrent to download movies/ software from Peer to peer systems,  something should be develop to allow p2p betting also.
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June 01, 2017, 06:43:25 AM
#21
I don't think you'll have an rasy time finding a site like that dude. might as well just bet with your friends. that way you're also sure that it would be a fair betting : D
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May 30, 2017, 05:41:29 AM
#20
any sites out and around that are popular?

Im looking to do micro betting on outcomes we can deem are guaranteed fair and not relying on knowing how to verify provably fair.

Fairlay is a good option. It's not p2p by itself but you are indeed matching up with other people who have different opinion than you. So I guess that's P2P in a sense. It's a betting exchange which means that you can set your own odds on an event but for the bet to be valid someone else has got to be able to match your bet. Betmoose runs a similar betting exchange, you can bet on anything from politics to sports p2p.

But if you're looking for pure luck, then go for what xypos said, bitcoinrush.io. Bitdouble recently also introduced p2p coin flips i think. But looking at it right now it seems like bit double bots are the only ones that are betting so i'm not sure whether it's against the house or pvp.
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May 30, 2017, 05:22:36 AM
#19
any sites out and around that are popular?

Im looking to do micro betting on outcomes we can deem are guaranteed fair and not relying on knowing how to verify provably fair.
It is very difficult to find the gambling sites that serve the users by opening the gambling site like that. Sorry I do not think there is a bitcoin gambling site as you are looking for.
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May 30, 2017, 04:22:03 AM
#18
i wanted to recommend a site called www.peerbet.org ; because they (used to) provide a raffle game without house edge (they gain funds from other betting). however, someone said that they won;t be able to register, so just wanna know if you can get into it. other than that, nothing AFAIK is popular of PvP gambling. maybe poker?
sr. member
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May 30, 2017, 04:18:21 AM
#17
any sites out and around that are popular?

Im looking to do micro betting on outcomes we can deem are guaranteed fair and not relying on knowing how to verify provably fair.

I believe that primedice had it a while ago but decided to take it out again. But now they've got their own copycat forum(forum.primedice.com), there is a subforum dedicated to people taking and making pvp bets, no matter whether it's sportsbetting or other random events. https://www.bitcoinrush.io/ is also a good site to play on if you want to play pvp. They do take a cut from the bets though. Also don't play with too much, it's good that you're only betting micro. The site admin isn't that active.
legendary
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May 30, 2017, 03:47:59 AM
#16
I haven't come across any of the gambling website providing the gamblers bet within the users. If such a service is initiated the gambling website won't be profited, because based on the end result one gambler gets an earning and the other loses. Gambling site might levy a charge.

The sites can easily take a 2% fee or something for hosting the bet for you. The earnings are really not the problem here.

The biggest difficulty would be how to automatically determine the winner of the bet. If a judge is needed, that would complicate things tremendously.
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May 30, 2017, 02:56:04 AM
#15
any sites out and around that are popular?

Im looking to do micro betting on outcomes we can deem are guaranteed fair and not relying on knowing how to verify provably fair.
I only know two gambling sites that have this kind of feature in one of their games. First one is nitrogensports.eu's poker and the second one is already mentioned by mrcash which was bitdouble.io's coinflip. I'm not sure if onehash counts I know they only accept bets from players.
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May 29, 2017, 11:16:06 PM
#14
I haven't come across any of the gambling website providing the gamblers bet within the users. If such a service is initiated the gambling website won't be profited, because based on the end result one gambler gets an earning and the other loses. Gambling site might levy a charge.
Maybe use fee the site for any gambling by user vs. user may create a room like a games so no cheats inside and mount of bets are given to the site and will be shared after the game is over.
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May 29, 2017, 10:58:12 PM
#13
Nothing that I know of that is working yet.  Wagerr ICO though is starting June 1st which will have head-to-head betting in addition to the regular sports bets.  This is exactly what you're looking for, and think that it will do extremely well when the site goes online.
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May 29, 2017, 09:07:37 PM
#12
I've came across action-gamble.com. It is a small community but it is also a user to user game. You only need to play rock paper scissors and whoever who in the round that proposed wins the money that was at stake. The community i think is still growing and most of the bets are in .0001 but you can also bet any amounts depending on whoever can play with the amount you wagered. And the user with the most wins in the day can have a price by the owner of the site. Check it out.
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May 29, 2017, 07:04:50 PM
#11
any sites out and around that are popular?

Im looking to do micro betting on outcomes we can deem are guaranteed fair and not relying on knowing how to verify provably fair.
there are some sites offering this thing like primedice where you can bet against other players instead of the house edge. Also in poker you can play against real people and it doesn't require any provably fair system. However, as far as I'm aware there are no gambling websites that would allow the sports bets or other types of gambling against other players.
legendary
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May 29, 2017, 06:24:08 PM
#10
Never heard any site that can gives you PVP betting I think you may try bet on sports betting because they are relaying on peoples bet and the odds are changing .  and i think you are just still betting as user to user bets because in the other pick some people are betting but they have different odds. if you are looking for provably fair which is same bet no odds for now there are no sites the same as you thought..
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May 29, 2017, 06:00:32 PM
#9
any sites out and around that are popular?

Im looking to do micro betting on outcomes we can deem are guaranteed fair and not relying on knowing how to verify provably fair.

It's not quite popular to be honest :/

You had a few games or rock paper scissor but it never really made a hit. And there was a site or two of coin flip if I remember well.
But let's be clear: who here thinks coinflip is interesting or entertaining? --'

But there was also a game like agar.io! It's not exactly gambling but it's pretty funny!
The game wasn't bad and the idea was simple, it was an agar.io but instead of losing/winning points you were losing/wining satoshis ^^
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May 28, 2017, 02:47:42 PM
#8
There are bitcoin websites where you play against other users and not single PvP bets. Normally it should be the same if you want to show how good you really are against other players, I know that feeling in Sport betting when you beat the competition so Fairlay is one of such websites together with Betbtc I guess not so sure about this second one though.
The most popular way of playing against others is live poker and there are sites that accept Bitcoin.
Normal pvp, like petting on a CSGO match aren't popular, because they give a lot of room to cheating and setting the matches. There would have to be a referee online to constantly watch games and people would just spew hate on each other if they knew they didn't lose to luck but inferior skills.
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May 28, 2017, 01:52:37 PM
#7
There are bitcoin websites where you play against other users and not single PvP bets. Normally it should be the same if you want to show how good you really are against other players, I know that feeling in Sport betting when you beat the competition so Fairlay is one of such websites together with Betbtc I guess not so sure about this second one though.
It turned out so to make a bet so that you could play in sports I do not really understand what to do and how to play so that at least once there was a positive moment.
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May 28, 2017, 12:53:32 PM
#6
There are bitcoin websites where you play against other users and not single PvP bets. Normally it should be the same if you want to show how good you really are against other players, I know that feeling in Sport betting when you beat the competition so Fairlay is one of such websites together with Betbtc I guess not so sure about this second one though.
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May 28, 2017, 12:39:10 PM
#5
I don't know if you will consider it user to user betting (PVP), but BitDouble.io has this feature, you can check there.
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May 28, 2017, 12:34:21 PM
#4
any sites out and around that are popular?

Im looking to do micro betting on outcomes we can deem are guaranteed fair and not relying on knowing how to verify provably fair.
No. PvP betting is not popular among bitcoin community, it is really hard to come up with good pvp game and run fair and entertaining service.
I know some services which offered rock, paper scissors pvp game, but I don't think they captured attention of the community.

Micro betting is another problem - if someone is interested in micro gambling they usually just play with Dice, micro betting pvp is kinda pointless.
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May 28, 2017, 11:42:27 AM
#3
I haven't come across any of the gambling website providing the gamblers bet within the users. If such a service is initiated the gambling website won't be profited, because based on the end result one gambler gets an earning and the other loses. Gambling site might levy a charge.
i also don't have any in hand experience with the type of gambling service like this, as bitcoin really rising transaction fee is also rising up
and who will open any service like this that will pay for the fee, lets see coming from other members here that already have some information
about this type of betting.
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May 28, 2017, 11:10:42 AM
#2
I haven't come across any of the gambling website providing the gamblers bet within the users. If such a service is initiated the gambling website won't be profited, because based on the end result one gambler gets an earning and the other loses. Gambling site might levy a charge.
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May 28, 2017, 08:15:43 AM
#1
any sites out and around that are popular?

Im looking to do micro betting on outcomes we can deem are guaranteed fair and not relying on knowing how to verify provably fair.


I have set up my own forum for users to come and make bets with any currency they wish, Posts cannot be deleted which helps make everything transparent



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