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SamReomo

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Quote from: Lucius on December 14, 2024, 08:53:31 AM

As I already wrote, I don't interfere in what someone will do with their sMerits - I just wanted to show that it is possible with such massive shitposting to steal a few merits here and there and very easily progress to the Member rank. What exactly is the intention of the person behind these profiles, we will only see in the future, and until then I will keep an eye on them.

That's true, if someone finds a post/thread interesting then he/she has the right to spend his/her sMerits to support that post/thread. The account that got those merits has said some valuable words in those posts that's the reason he got those merits.

It's possible that such type of members get more merits in future and there's possibility that they might rank up to Full member and that's the level which will allow them to earn some income by joining signature campaigns.

I'm not sure about the exact intention of the one who's controlling those accounts but most of the farmed accounts are created to get ranked up and in future be able to join signature campaigns.

Lucius

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Quote from: Poker Player on December 12, 2024, 01:44:56 PM

Quote from: Lucius on December 12, 2024, 10:44:38 AM

For all those who think it's hard for shitposters to get merits, sometimes it doesn't seem so hard, does it? I don't know what the user in question saw in those posts, but everyone has their own criteria and I'm not here to judge what someone will do with their sMerits.

Well I in that case I think he simply saw that the guy a somehow interesting post and as he saw that he already had the activity but not enough merits, so he gave him the merits he lacked to rank up, something common. I have to say that the posts they make are usually on topic and although they are not great I am not surprised that in some case someone sees them worthy of merit. More if the person doesn't realize it and sees them as a lower ranked member that they can help rank up.

As I already wrote, I don't interfere in what someone will do with their sMerits - I just wanted to show that it is possible with such massive shitposting to steal a few merits here and there and very easily progress to the Member rank. What exactly is the intention of the person behind these profiles, we will only see in the future, and until then I will keep an eye on them.

Poker Player

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Activity: 1372

Merit: 2017

Quote from: Poker Player on December 12, 2024, 09:46:05 AM

Well spotted. I am going to tag all of them because I logged into the forum, went to look at the replies to a thread I started recently and there I saw them shitposting. I'm going to do both, report and tag them.

As an update just to say that I reported every of those accounts who posted in my thread and although all reports have been marked as good, some of the posts were not deleted. As I say know how to write on topic, always what he says is somehow related to the thread and makes sense, he is not a low-value shitposter. But in my case I have already tagged all the accounts.

Alone055

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Activity: 1260

Merit: 358

Quote from: Lucius on December 12, 2024, 10:44:38 AM

For all those who think it's hard for shitposters to get merits, sometimes it doesn't seem so hard, does it? I don't know what the user in question saw in those posts, but everyone has their own criteria and I'm not here to judge what someone will do with their sMerits.

Most people don't check post histories before giving out merits. When they see a post that they either like, agree with, or find helpful or somehow constructive, they merit it, and since it's an irreversible action, nothing can be done once it is done, even if you later find out that the user you merited is a serial shitposter who never wrote a post larger than three lines.

Generally, a post's length doesn't make it low quality because sometimes, even a single line is enough and can be constructive and helpful. However, that's not the case in this case. The posts from these accounts are primarily generic and have no substantial value or quality. Some users might agree with some of the posts and their points, but that doesn't make them constructive posters.

He was lucky because the user who gave him merits doesn't entertain users who spam, plagiarize, farm accounts, or do anything that can harm the forum.

Poker Player

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Activity: 1372

Merit: 2017

Quote from: Lucius on December 12, 2024, 10:44:38 AM

For all those who think it's hard for shitposters to get merits, sometimes it doesn't seem so hard, does it? I don't know what the user in question saw in those posts, but everyone has their own criteria and I'm not here to judge what someone will do with their sMerits.

Well I in that case I think he simply saw that the guy a somehow interesting post and as he saw that he already had the activity but not enough merits, so he gave him the merits he lacked to rank up, something common. I have to say that the posts they make are usually on topic and although they are not great I am not surprised that in some case someone sees them worthy of merit. More if the person doesn't realize it and sees them as a lower ranked member that they can help rank up.

Lucius

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@Poker Player, it must be admitted that whoever is behind it all shows great dedication to what they do, because the pile of spam they create every day is getting bigger and bigger. It is possible that there are more profiles that we have not detected.

For all those who think it's hard for shitposters to get merits, sometimes it doesn't seem so hard, does it? I don't know what the user in question saw in those posts, but everyone has their own criteria and I'm not here to judge what someone will do with their sMerits.

Poker Player

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Activity: 1372

Merit: 2017

Quote from: Lucius on December 11, 2024, 06:37:59 AM

If you look at the link in the signature of all mentioned, it seems to be a referral link - in any case, the link is unique, so it could be proof that these are alt accounts.

Well spotted. I am going to tag all of them because I logged into the forum, went to look at the replies to a thread I started recently and there I saw them shitposting. I'm going to do both, report and tag them.

Alone055

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Activity: 1260

Merit: 358

Quote from: Rikafip on December 11, 2024, 02:34:35 PM

Wouldn't he in that case make more of those tyoe of posts that attract merit like starting threads, doing translations, submitting his posts in those merit giveaway threads etc?

If he has accounts with sMerits, or maybe friends or people he knows can give him merits in exchange for money, etc., he doesn't need to do all that. Someone who has no other way to get merits will resort to these ways so that they can somehow get some merits and rank up. In his case, if he actually has other high-ranked accounts, he is just completing activity points from his accounts by making useless and quick posts so that he can later grow their ranks by meriting them with the other accounts.

Quote from: Rikafip on December 11, 2024, 02:34:35 PM

Or maybe he just sucks as what he is trying to do-ranking up alt acounts. Tongue

Yeah, that's also possible. But I think it's the other way around because someone who knows about the merit system and understands it and also acknowledges the fact that they aren't capable enough of writing quality posts wouldn't waste their time trying to rank up by writing generic 3-line shitposts with multiple accounts. So, he either doesn't know about the merit system and is trying to rank up multiple accounts this way, or he has something else planned.

knowngunman

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Activity: 798

Merit: 364

Quote from: Rikafip on December 11, 2024, 10:36:21 AM

Imho it is just a shitposter who is trying to build some activity until he applies for a altcoin bounty campaign or something along the line.

I don't think there is any altcoin bounty that considered activity to get paid or getting higher reward. Probably, I haven't noticed such Campaign.

Likewise, I don't think it's an attempt to rank up. If that's possibly the case (which I completely doubt), then one dullard is surely behind the accounts. How does he intend to grow/rank up multiple accounts at the same time using this dumb method? Forum is too big to for one to accumulate hundred of merits in account with insubstantial posts without being noticed. He probably wants to spend years to achieve that aim. Unfortunately, the forum is smarter than whoever is behind the accounts and shorten or possibly bring an end to their aim.

Rikafip

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Quote from: Alone055 on December 11, 2024, 12:00:26 PM

I had the same thought at first, but then I thought that there is a possibility of him having more, higher ranked, accounts where he has enough sMerits that he can circulate within his accounts to rank up over time which is why he doesn't care much about his post quality because it is evident that he is doing this only to hoard activity points and there must be a reason behind it.

Wouldn't he in that case make more of those tyoe of posts that attract merit like starting threads, doing translations, submitting his posts in those merit giveaway threads etc?

Quote from: Alone055 on December 11, 2024, 12:00:26 PM

No one with a right mindset would waste their time shitposting in a forum without having any benefits attached to it.

Or maybe he just sucks as what he is trying to do-ranking up alt acounts. Tongue

Alone055

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Activity: 1260

Merit: 358

Quote from: Lucius on December 11, 2024, 06:37:59 AM

At first the reports were successful, but when they started to go unhandled I gave up on reports. Realistically, all of these posts should be deleted, but whoever is behind it is obviously counting on no one to waste their time reporting dozens of posts every day.

I stopped following the user and reporting his posts for the same reason. I still have some of my reports unhandled, and they are probably from that time, and you are right that he wouldn't get tired of making such posts but he is sure that people would get tired of reporting them unless he gets punished for it but unfortunately, a person doesn't get banned for shitposting.

Quote from: Rikafip on December 11, 2024, 10:36:21 AM

More than 2k posts and only 5 merit received so far tells me that it is very unlikely that this guy plans to grow this acount for sale (in that case he would be way more efificient and his post history would be much different).

Imho it is just a shitposter who is trying to build some activity until he applies for a altcoin bounty campaign or something along the line.

I had the same thought at first, but then I thought that there is a possibility of him having more, higher ranked, accounts where he has enough sMerits that he can circulate within his accounts to rank up over time which is why he doesn't care much about his post quality because it is evident that he is doing this only to hoard activity points and there must be a reason behind it. No one with a right mindset would waste their time shitposting in a forum without having any benefits attached to it.

Rikafip

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Quote from: Alone055 on December 10, 2024, 06:05:35 PM

Since he doesn't stand a chance of getting a slot in any signature campaign with any of his accounts due to his habit of shitposting, he is probably planning to grow his accounts by abusing the merit system and then selling them later on.

More than 2k posts and only 5 merit received so far tells me that it is very unlikely that this guy plans to grow this acount for sale (in that case he would be way more efificient and his post history would be much different).

Imho it is just a shitposter who is trying to build some activity until he applies for a altcoin bounty campaign or something along the line.

Lucius

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Quote from: Poker Player on December 10, 2024, 12:45:51 PM

~snip~
Another thing that strikes me, what are several wearing the signature of Weiss, which is a campaign that ended some time ago?

If you look at the link in the signature of all mentioned, it seems to be a referral link - in any case, the link is unique, so it could be proof that these are alt accounts.

@Alone055, I didn't remember that you already opened a topic about one of these users, but now that I read it, I remembered that I also tried to report some of the posts as spam. At first the reports were successful, but when they started to go unhandled I gave up on reports. Realistically, all of these posts should be deleted, but whoever is behind it is obviously counting on no one to waste their time reporting dozens of posts every day.

Shishir99

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Activity: 840

Merit: 522

I remember the betswift account you mentioned. This account actually wrote thousands of posts and has copper membership with 5 merits. Who is going to hire them for their campaign? I don't know what actually inspires them to write that many posts without getting paid. They usually write two to three lines and a couple of posts each day. At first, I thought they were trying to rank up. But they should know that it is not possible for them to rank up to full members in a lifetime if they continue like this. I mean, if someone writes 2.1K posts and gets 5 merits, how long it will take for them to earn a hundred merits?

Alone055

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Activity: 1260

Merit: 358

I never stumbled upon or noticed the other accounts, but a few months back, in September, I created this thread about @betswift because I noticed that the guy was posting abnormally. The time interval between his posts was between 1 and 5 minutes, which alone is enough to prove how big of a spammer he is.

Quote from: Lucius on December 10, 2024, 06:54:55 AM

I hope this topic will help prevent them from getting the opportunity to become part of a sig campaign in the future.

Quote from: Poker Player on December 10, 2024, 12:45:51 PM

I don't think they have much chance of joining campaigns.

He isn't doing this to join signature campaigns himself. Since he doesn't stand a chance of getting a slot in any signature campaign with any of his accounts due to his habit of shitposting, he is probably planning to grow his accounts by abusing the merit system and then selling them later on. People don't care about post histories when buying accounts if the accounts have a high rank. What is also becoming a norm nowadays is that people buy such accounts, use AI-generated content to make the last few pages of their post history look better, and then try joining campaigns with the accounts.

Rikafip

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Activity: 1722

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The opther day I stumbled upon a thread with bunch of lower rank members that you mentioned and it looked weird but didn't really bother to check it more thoroughly. Now that I did, it indded looks like they are controlled by the same person.

He sucks at alt account farming though, as so far he managed get get only few dozens of merit across all of those accounts combined.

Poker Player

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Quote from: Lucius on December 10, 2024, 06:54:55 AM

Some of them already have a tag, and I'm thinking of leaving them all a neutral tag with a reference to this topic.

They deserve it. I probably do too. What is not clear to me is if they are part of a farm or the same person writing fast with different accounts, but whatever. I don't think they have much chance of joining campaigns. For example betswift has 266 activity and only 5 merits, fikrett 140 and 6 merits. Some of them don't have such a pronounced gap but I see it difficult for a manager to hire them.

Another thing that strikes me, what are several wearing the signature of Weiss, which is a campaign that ended some time ago?

Lucius

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This is probably an attempt to create an alt farm (and not a very intelligent attempt), given that all the posts from different profiles come within a few minutes of each other and are usually in a row. Besides being annoying spammers, I see that they also get some merits from time to time.

I hope this topic will help prevent them from getting the opportunity to become part of a sig campaign in the future. Some of them already have a tag, and I'm thinking of leaving them all a neutral tag with a reference to this topic.

Examples -> 1, 2, 3, 4

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