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Topic: Users removing dev fee from CGMiner clones (Read 244 times)

legendary
Activity: 1988
Merit: 1561
CLEAN non GPL infringing code made in Rust lang
January 04, 2022, 05:59:24 PM
#12
Another problem with the recent miners is the mix and match, why on earth would they come up with this shit and stop you from mixing hash boards without having to buy a special tool for it? custom firmware fixes that.

Hashboard authentication, they use the serial number or something. It started with the S9Hydro/K/SE, S11 and continued with x15/x17/x19... You know, this kinda coincides when that group left Bitmain to form MicroBT, coincidence?

Since the voltage regulation is now done at the PSU, it makes a little sense to keep users from mixing with different models (you can't), but other than that, it is yet another artificial barrier, the belief that the machine you spend thousands for, is not fully yours to do whatever you want with it.
legendary
Activity: 4466
Merit: 1798
Linux since 1997 RedHat 4
December 23, 2021, 11:48:45 PM
#11
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Devs who make money out of Cgminer donate some of the profit to everyone who contributed to coding it? does that seem like a bad idea?
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Wont happen, has nothing to do with the license, and not what I ever want either.

The license is there to share the software, keep it opensource, stop these 'people' trying to close the opensource of the software as it was released and licensed

Alas I see lies like this, so I don't see any point either ...
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To be honest I only ever sign on here to mess with Kano that little racist cuck but anyways.
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Also you have the issue of what they have actually changed ... i.e. what does the miner now do that it didn't do before, that you probably wouldn't want it doing?
legendary
Activity: 2170
Merit: 6279
be constructive or S.T.F.U
December 23, 2021, 10:58:27 PM
#10
This whole firmware topic is a mess, I believe Bitmain is the main reason, their firmware lacks basic functionalities which they could have easily fixed by throwing some money at it, if the stock firmware auto-tunes then there would be almost no need for any custom firmware, but alas they even disabled the static frequency change and now you are stuck with whatever shit they pre-set for you.

Another problem with the recent miners is the mix and match, why on earth would they come up with this shit and stop you from mixing hash boards without having to buy a special tool for it? custom firmware fixes that.

I can go on forever, the stock firmware in a nutshell (sucks!) which opened the door for some people to improve it and make money out of it, this thing is beyond fixing especially since most devs are located in regions where all these software licenses hold little to no value, so why not do this:

Devs who make money out of Cgminer donate some of the profit to everyone who contributed to coding it? does that seem like a bad idea?
legendary
Activity: 4466
Merit: 1798
Linux since 1997 RedHat 4
December 23, 2021, 06:51:55 PM
#9
I will check this thread in 2022 or something


It's still 2021 ...

+1 is rather difficult I guess.

P.S. where's the change code/patches required by the license for using my cgminer software?
sr. member
Activity: 800
Merit: 293
Created AutoTune to saved the planet! ~USA
December 23, 2021, 03:04:44 PM
#8
You are full of lies, as always. But people know you and your "work" "ethics" anyway, so you are just a waste of time.

Keep "vAnishing" machines. Have you learned coding already? Of course not, all you do is "whip" others (your words, not mine).
And yes, you started it, so stop the FUD and lies. Maybe just start getting to work and actually fulfill your signed contracts for a change...

As for writing eeproms... That's done by bmminer (modded cgminer), and we never touched that, you did. Go fight with your fellow compatriots and let the people who actually work alone. How many S19 have you turned worse than a couple of S17+ today? Keep dreaming, 220TH is it? why not take it to 250? Tongue

eFuses are tripped by malware, which typically only occurs with factory or modded firmware, simply because your compatriot malware developers have not bothered with a different OS, but that's not an excuse to not set a proper password. You are definitely confused (again), so take your complaints to them.

Of course we no longer see you scaring people after you got muted in the group. An yet you keep your minions spreading the fud elsewhere. Put them to work instead of wasting time, its amazing how you can take ages to change a little web page, no wonder you can't code your own software instead of infringing cgminer.

Not voiding any contract? Talking about public knowledge here.

S19 we did do 250 actually well pretty close... Some issues on the electrical side that were let's just say not safe.

The eFuse is just burning a key. We are not aware of any malware that burns it on the 17 series. The stock firmware for the 17 does not even utilize it which is why I found it really interesting. Also modding a factory firmware wouldn't trip it. Like think about what you just said.

I got muted in the group because I banned your BD from spreading FUD in our groups lmfao. I don't have minions? What do you think this is lol???

Change a web page? We spend $0 on marketing that was HOW TO WORDPRESS guide and 1 day of tinkering Smiley
legendary
Activity: 1988
Merit: 1561
CLEAN non GPL infringing code made in Rust lang
December 22, 2021, 09:06:19 AM
#7
You are full of lies, as always. But people know you and your "work" "ethics" anyway, so you are just a waste of time.

Keep "vAnishing" machines. Have you learned coding already? Of course not, all you do is "whip" others (your words, not mine).
And yes, you started it, so stop the FUD and lies. Maybe just start getting to work and actually fulfill your signed contracts for a change...

As for writing eeproms... That's done by bmminer (modded cgminer), and we never touched that, you did. Go fight with your fellow compatriots and let the people who actually work alone. How many S19 have you turned worse than a couple of S17+ today? Keep dreaming, 220TH is it? why not take it to 250? Tongue

eFuses are tripped by malware, which typically only occurs with factory or modded firmware, simply because your compatriot malware developers have not bothered with a different OS, but that's not an excuse to not set a proper password. You are definitely confused (again), so take your complaints to them.

Of course we no longer see you scaring people after you got muted in the group. An yet you keep your minions spreading the fud elsewhere. Put them to work instead of wasting time, its amazing how you can take ages to change a little web page, no wonder you can't code your own software instead of infringing cgminer.
sr. member
Activity: 800
Merit: 293
Created AutoTune to saved the planet! ~USA
December 22, 2021, 03:09:23 AM
#6
I'm sure Kano can tell you how "legitimate" is the code injecting that causes memory leaks and crashes, that also happens to corrupt eeproms from unsuspecting victims.

In short they are illegal for not sharing back whatever modifications they did. But how is a British supposed to sue some Russian? They just don't care. Thieves stealing thieves, or should we better say pirates plundering fellow pirates? Yarr!



I'm not sure why the other aftermarket guys don't just branch the basic brains firmware and then add their own closed source proprietary tuning separately, just like brains does with the brains+.
Because that takes actual work Cheesy
Also, they can't close what is open, that would be infringing Braiins copyright... And the rest of the OS is OpenWrt.

We don't write to eeprom you guys did in your beta remember... You guys should try not to slander. Oh wait Tell me how you guys trip the efuse on a 17 series... I legit spilled my coffee when I saw your firmware do that lol.

Anyways braiins has a history of copy us. First they copy, Autotune algo, then they copy temp switching, then our boot loader... Must we go on  Grin

To be honest I only ever sign on here to mess with Kano that little racist cuck but anyways. I will check this thread in 2022 or something

Much Love

ps. Stop with the attacks it's getting old you don't see us trying to scare people now do you
legendary
Activity: 1988
Merit: 1561
CLEAN non GPL infringing code made in Rust lang
December 21, 2021, 07:47:30 PM
#5
I'm sure Kano can tell you how "legitimate" is the code injecting that causes memory leaks and crashes, that also happens to corrupt eeproms from unsuspecting victims.

In short they are illegal for not sharing back whatever modifications they did. But how is a British supposed to sue some Russian? They just don't care. Thieves stealing thieves, or should we better say pirates plundering fellow pirates? Yarr!



I'm not sure why the other aftermarket guys don't just branch the basic brains firmware and then add their own closed source proprietary tuning separately, just like brains does with the brains+.
Because that takes actual work Cheesy
Also, they can't close what is open, that would be infringing Braiins copyright... And the rest of the OS is OpenWrt.
hero member
Activity: 544
Merit: 589
December 21, 2021, 04:14:54 PM
#4
Yeah ... everybody is violating the cgminer license these days. All the ASIC manufacturers and a bunch of aftermarket firmware. But, apparently, no one is willing to sue, so that pretty much makes the license useless. It seems the worst that is going to happen if you blatantly violate the license is to get called out about it on the forum. Must not be enough money to be made to pay for the lawyers...

Brains is the only aftermarket firmware to not violate the license since they re-wrote the code from scratch. And their basic firmware is open source, so I'm not sure why the other aftermarket guys don't just branch the basic brains firmware and then add their own closed source proprietary tuning separately, just like brains does with the brains+.
legendary
Activity: 1628
Merit: 1012
December 21, 2021, 12:35:29 PM
#3
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Custom fw providers and cgminer copies also do not share their source code like cgminer license requires.
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I've admittedly never dug into the GPLv3 and I'm not a lawyer but maybe its not worth (financially) pursuing the various breaks that have actually occurred?
Though a large company like Bitmain copying it seems more egregious.

It's all gone to shit is a good way to describe it.
I remember a long time ago seeing conversations just about bfgminer, didnt think it would spiral into this.
legendary
Activity: 2422
Merit: 1706
Electrical engineer. Mining since 2014.
December 21, 2021, 11:40:21 AM
#2
I think the lines are crossed a long time ago, since people don't have any manners when it comes to money making.

eg. Bitmain renaming cgminer as BMMiner is the same as I might as well take a direct copy of it and just rebrand it HagssMiner.

Custom fw providers and cgminer copies also do not share their source code like cgminer license requires.

Canaan used to be very open about their cgminer branch,
but I think even they don't have the latest source code in public github. So yes, it's all gone to shit.
legendary
Activity: 1628
Merit: 1012
December 21, 2021, 10:54:46 AM
#1
Recently users have been able to remove the dev fee from "custom" firmwares (that everyone knows are modified versions of cgminer).
Some are even keeping the exact appearance and substituting in their own dev fee information instead.
This second practice of changing the "legitimate" dev fee information with this actors details seems far more malicious to me than removing the fee entirely.
To take it a step further users are even removing the fee and then reselling the firmware with the dev fee removed.

At what point do these alterations of the firmware begin to cross lines?
Or does the "custom" firmwares existence in the first place already cross any existing lines?

Thoughts?
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