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Quote from: globalsea on March 26, 2019, 06:05:09 PM

Hey there. I work at a non profit and we help people throughout the world who are discriminated against, oppressed, and even killed for their ideals and beliefs. We have bases throughout the world and we transfer money to each of these bases. However, with governments/private banks being corrupt in these countries, sometimes these transfers are ceased.

We would like to utilize crypto currency to solve our problem. Do you have any ideas on the below question?

1.) What would be the best currency to use for international transfers from the US to places like India, North Korea, the Middle East.

2.) How could the recipients turn their crypto into cash without going through a bank? For example, if we sent 10,000 worth of Rupee to India via crypto, how would the end user convert this into Rupee in their country?

Thanks for any and all help!

Hhmm sounds a bit shady but to answer in general terms, as with most of the answers you got, bitcoin would be the most efficient coins for the moment. Probably ethereum as well but if you're going to have it converted in the receiver's location, i think it' easier if it's btc. And converting btc to cash won't require you to go to a bank lol. Your wallets would do that for you and banks would only be another option depending on what wallet you're using to receive the amount.

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Quote from: globalsea on March 26, 2019, 06:05:09 PM

Hey there. I work at a non profit and we help people throughout the world who are discriminated against, oppressed, and even killed for their ideals and beliefs. We have bases throughout the world and we transfer money to each of these bases. However, with governments/private banks being corrupt in these countries, sometimes these transfers are ceased.

We would like to utilize crypto currency to solve our problem. Do you have any ideas on the below question?

1.) What would be the best currency to use for international transfers from the US to places like India, North Korea, the Middle East.

2.) How could the recipients turn their crypto into cash without going through a bank? For example, if we sent 10,000 worth of Rupee to India via crypto, how would the end user convert this into Rupee in their country?

Thanks for any and all help!

I think it is very hypocritical to call someone using Crypto as a non-profit thing.
International transfers today ? i think crypto still ranked at the first place. Convert your crypto without bank. Im sure there's still a lot of people that sell services as crypto escrow. Of course its hard to find trusted one since no one's gonna end up in the jail because of big suspicious transaction like money laundring.

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Quote from: vixcious on March 28, 2019, 08:13:37 AM

I believe that turning electronic money into fiat money without going through banks will soon happen. Currently we have XRP and soon there will be many types of crypto banks. they will continue to grow and create more ATMs and place it in some places so people can conveniently transfer money.
The problem here is just time and we need to wait another 3-4 years.

This will really be difficult a bit to do, the moment government put eye on this, they will end up frustrating the invention of these ATM since they still have to take permission or license to build such at or operate a physical cryptocurrency bank, we might have 1 or 2 people already introduced it but you know the way we humans are.

A lot of people will hijack this idea and start inventing it till it becomes too popular that government will see it and start querying it since for now, most government are still not in support of cryptocurrency, and anything that also has to do with FIAT for now is fully controlled by them.

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Bitcoin would be the most suitable cryptocurrency for this. You could buy and sell Bitcoin anywhere in the world through peer-to-peer platforms like LocalBitcoin and paxful. If you can access these and similar websites in those countries, you probably would able to trade the with local traders on the platforms

Any alternative is cryptocurrency Ethereum. You can buy and sell it locally here: https://localethereum.com/

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Quote from: globalsea on March 26, 2019, 06:05:09 PM

Hey there. I work at a non profit and we help people throughout the world who are discriminated against, oppressed, and even killed for their ideals and beliefs.

is something very good to help the people who need it

Quote from: globalsea on March 26, 2019, 06:05:09 PM

We have bases throughout the world and we transfer money to each of these bases. However, with governments/private banks being corrupt in these countries, sometimes these transfers are ceased.

if you have bases in all around the world and from what I understand you have already been able to send money to these bases of around the world, Why you need those information that you are asking for? How did you do to transfer money to the bases of around the world?

Quote from: globalsea on March 26, 2019, 06:05:09 PM

We would like to utilize crypto currency to solve our problem. Do you have any ideas on the below question?

you should seek a lawyer to have better clarification, because those countries you mentioned have quite tough laws against crypto

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Quote from: globalsea on March 26, 2019, 06:05:09 PM

Hey there. I work at a non profit and we help people throughout the world who are discriminated against, oppressed, and even killed for their ideals and beliefs. We have bases throughout the world and we transfer money to each of these bases. However, with governments/private banks being corrupt in these countries, sometimes these transfers are ceased.

We would like to utilize crypto currency to solve our problem. Do you have any ideas on the below question?

1.) What would be the best currency to use for international transfers from the US to places like India, North Korea, the Middle East.

2.) How could the recipients turn their crypto into cash without going through a bank? For example, if we sent 10,000 worth of Rupee to India via crypto, how would the end user convert this into Rupee in their country?

Thanks for any and all help!

You can use many options to send money abroad. Bitcoin, ethereum, dogecoin for example is a good example. Or you can use stablecoin like USDT. Btw, to avoid using banks in receiving cash after we convert our cryptos will be very difficult. Even peer to peer transactions will require a bank account at the end unless both the seller and the buyer know each other in real life.

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Quote from: globalsea on March 26, 2019, 06:05:09 PM

2.) How could the recipients turn their crypto into cash without going through a bank? For example, if we sent 10,000 worth of Rupee to India via crypto, how would the end user convert this into Rupee in their country?

They just have to look for a local exchange in their country or they could just look for a person that is willing to trade their coins for their currency. About North Korea, I doubt that they can find a local exchange there.

North Korea will be a no go area at all, I learnt that they even ban the use of internet in North Korea and only permitted when authorized by the government, for a country that doesn’t use internet much, how would the citizens even be aware of cryptocurrency, in this quest for adopters of crypto, we just have to zero our mind on North Korea.

I think your suggestion is very wise to follow for him and I believe India will even be a very good place to be able to do such because of their population and their strong exposure to information technology and virtually they should have upto 10% crypto users there, just that they will be forced to sell their BTC at a very low price if they are to go by your method.

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I believe that turning electronic money into fiat money without going through banks will soon happen. Currently we have XRP and soon there will be many types of crypto banks. they will continue to grow and create more ATMs and place it in some places so people can conveniently transfer money.
The problem here is just time and we need to wait another 3-4 years.

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Quote from: globalsea on March 26, 2019, 06:05:09 PM

2.) How could the recipients turn their crypto into cash without going through a bank? For example, if we sent 10,000 worth of Rupee to India via crypto, how would the end user convert this into Rupee in their country?

IMO the only option is peer 2 peer trading, and by that I mean direct trade / trading on the spot, not using platform like Localbitcoins. In such countries, considering they're really oppressed by the government and there's a lack of innovation, I also believe there won't be any exchange that support direct withdrawal to their own bank account.

You are 100% right about that. Countries hit harder by political instability and financial constraints are not even aware of the cryptocurrency and its need. The government knows about it of course but I think that a country has to be in good shape in terms of both political and financial condition if they wants to avail the fruits of cryptocurrency in general and coins like Bitcoin and ETH in particular.

Using crypto for any kind of real life need, must have enough infrastructure to get familiar among common people. Withdrawing to bank account or buying with local fiats will be possible only when governments stand positive against cryptos even in the case the case of being neutral also will make it difficult.

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Quote from: globalsea on March 26, 2019, 06:05:09 PM

Hey there. I work at a non profit and we help people throughout the world who are discriminated against, oppressed, and even killed for their ideals and beliefs. We have bases throughout the world and we transfer money to each of these bases. However, with governments/private banks being corrupt in these countries, sometimes these transfers are ceased.

We would like to utilize crypto currency to solve our problem. Do you have any ideas on the below question?

1.) What would be the best currency to use for international transfers from the US to places like India, North Korea, the Middle East.

2.) How could the recipients turn their crypto into cash without going through a bank? For example, if we sent 10,000 worth of Rupee to India via crypto, how would the end user convert this into Rupee in their country?

Thanks for any and all help!

You can visit the traders personally and can convert your bitcoins into cash but still it is not advisable since chance of scam are highly possible when we meet someone personally,for that you can use localbitcoin site which escrow your funds and you can release once your payment was confirmed.

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This is one of the solution crypto as brought into the financial institution, to create anonymous transaction and fast means of settling payments without any interference and I am glad you have also decided to come on board.

India is not a country new to crypto currency and I am sure they will sure have an exchange that will be able to convert your crypto to fiat but they might still have to pay directly into your bank, what I can always advise you to do is to learn to always split your funds when withdrawing into bank, it is when you pull fund heavily into an account that government will flag it down. Like in my country, I use remitano but research on them to see if they work in India too and other countries.

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I think that almost in every country has the opportunity to transfer crypto to Fiat money without the help of banks. Therefore, if the question is in the choice of crypto for this, then I definitely recommend using bitcoin.

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The best coin for international transfer to any country of the world are the most popular coins that is been used by people in the world. Bitcoin and ethereum are the most popular coin in the crypto market and would be a very good start.

For the part of turning their coins into cash without going to the bank is already common by making use of exchanges that has the feature of withdrawing crypto coin directly to a fiat bank account or they can collect crypto debit card from any platform that supports it.

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Quote from: kurian on March 27, 2019, 01:18:13 PM

I don't know about the best currency which could be used for the countries you have mentioned.

For India, if you are going to send cash in crypto then, it could be converted to local currency using peer to peer exchanges. As I am from India, I use

1. localbitcoins.com
2.wazirx

localbitcoins is the best one I have ever used. It is available in India, Middle East and many other countries.

Local bitcoins is available for many countries you cannot close this for few countries in the list alone.
I believe you do not have access for coinbase, kraken or some more exchanges I believe LBC is helping you guys better and then you may try localethereum also in future for ethereum exchangings.

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By the looks of it it seems like you just padded the question so that people can answer your question without any suspicion. India has been known to be hard on their crypto users that even their banks are not allowed to touch crypto related transactions with exchanges so their citizens only way to liquidate it is through localbitcoins which I think won't be fit to you as most of their mode of payment is through bank deposits. I don't even know how you will get through North Korea as being a dictator led country it seems like cryptocurrency transactions will be highly moderated.

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I don't know about the best currency which could be used for the countries you have mentioned.

For India, if you are going to send cash in crypto then, it could be converted to local currency using peer to peer exchanges. As I am from India, I use

1. localbitcoins.com
2.wazirx

localbitcoins is the best one I have ever used. It is available in India, Middle East and many other countries.

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Quote from: globalsea on March 26, 2019, 06:05:09 PM

1.) What would be the best currency to use for international transfers from the US to places like India, North Korea, the Middle East.

Huh? North Korea? Are they open for some communications in their country? The best cryptocurrency you should use is bitcoin.

Quote from: globalsea on March 26, 2019, 06:05:09 PM

2.) How could the recipients turn their crypto into cash without going through a bank? For example, if we sent 10,000 worth of Rupee to India via crypto, how would the end user convert this into Rupee in their country?

Try using paypal. I think it would be probably less suspected if you will first use paypal before putting it to bank.

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Quote from: globalsea on March 26, 2019, 06:05:09 PM

1.) What would be the best currency to use for international transfers from the US to places like India, North Korea, the Middle East.

The use of the USD is favorable on India and the Middle East except the bolded part. Idk what currency are they exactly okay with or whether they accept any other nation's currency but your best bet is to just use bitcoin in NoKor (if ever you are really deep into this one) due to their recent involvement with such. IIRC, Hong Kong and Macau were the gateways of money transfers if you want to send money over at NoKor (though of course, why would one do that?)

Quote from: globalsea on March 26, 2019, 06:05:09 PM

2.) How could the recipients turn their crypto into cash without going through a bank? For example, if we sent 10,000 worth of Rupee to India via crypto, how would the end user convert this into Rupee in their country?

Facilitation of OTC trades and the use of P2P exchanges would do the trick, however this is not 2013-2014 anymore and most exchanges and methods of converting crypto to fiat are being regulated, and so one should really get into the official process in order for them to get their money.

Or a not-so-popular option: use this forum on the Currency Exchange section and post trades in there. Perhaps you might get lucky and get someone who would want crypto in exchange for cash.

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Quote from: Reid on March 27, 2019, 10:08:12 AM

The problem that you will be having though is if you want to cash it out specially in US where they are strict with money laundering although they cannot catch what is inside their country already. Grin

I'm thinking conversion to fiat won't bring a major problem if they are able to do p2p trade because it is a matter of Mobil transfer through their phones.

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Please dont go far into looking for another crypto currencies.

You are against corruption and manipulation and that is why you are taking risks into using cyptocurrencies.
Pick only bitcoin.
Do not go for options like centralized ones for they are still under banks and the government. You will just regret the end of it.

The problem that you will be having though is if you want to cash it out specially in US where they are strict with money laundering although they cannot catch what is inside their country already. Grin

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Quote from: globalsea on March 26, 2019, 06:05:09 PM

Hey there. I work at a non profit and we help people throughout the world who are discriminated against, oppressed, and even killed for their ideals and beliefs. We have bases throughout the world and we transfer money to each of these bases. However, with governments/private banks being corrupt in these countries, sometimes these transfers are ceased.

We would like to utilize crypto currency to solve our problem. Do you have any ideas on the below question?

1.) What would be the best currency to use for international transfers from the US to places like India, North Korea, the Middle East.

2.) How could the recipients turn their crypto into cash without going through a bank? For example, if we sent 10,000 worth of Rupee to India via crypto, how would the end user convert this into Rupee in their country?

Thanks for any and all help!

The first thing that should be kept in mind is that the recipient country should have crypto legalized or at least regulated because I am from India and crypto is still neither legalized nor regulated in India.
Second thing is that the end user whoever is receiving the crypto should have a crypto wallet and have the basic knowledge on how to use it and make transactions.
In countries like India, it is still tough to encash crypto and I myself use a P2P trading platform called WazirX for getting the amount into my bank account.
So, inorder to encash the crypto the end user must either have good contacts so that he can trade the crypto to them for cash or he must have a P2P trading account like mine.

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Quote from: globalsea on March 26, 2019, 06:05:09 PM

Hey there. I work at a non profit and we help people throughout the world who are discriminated against, oppressed, and even killed for their ideals and beliefs. We have bases throughout the world and we transfer money to each of these bases. However, with governments/private banks being corrupt in these countries, sometimes these transfers are ceased.

We would like to utilize crypto currency to solve our problem. Do you have any ideas on the below question?

1.) What would be the best currency to use for international transfers from the US to places like India, North Korea, the Middle East.

2.) How could the recipients turn their crypto into cash without going through a bank? For example, if we sent 10,000 worth of Rupee to India via crypto, how would the end user convert this into Rupee in their country?

Thanks for any and all help!

1. any major coin to avoid price fluctuations
2. any exchanger or exchange which accepts fiat withdrawals. b2bx will have great limits for withdrawals via fiat

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Quote from: globalsea on March 26, 2019, 06:05:09 PM

Hey there. I work at a non profit and we help people throughout the world who are discriminated against, oppressed, and even killed for their ideals and beliefs. We have bases throughout the world and we transfer money to each of these bases. However, with governments/private banks being corrupt in these countries, sometimes these transfers are ceased.

We would like to utilize crypto currency to solve our problem. Do you have any ideas on the below question?

1.) What would be the best currency to use for international transfers from the US to places like India, North Korea, the Middle East.

2.) How could the recipients turn their crypto into cash without going through a bank? For example, if we sent 10,000 worth of Rupee to India via crypto, how would the end user convert this into Rupee in their country?

Thanks for any and all help!

Hi I am from India and I have converted my crypto rewards in INR many times. I even filed by Income Tax return showing my income from Bitcoin so its not illegal at all. Yes Indian govt has not accepted Bitcoin as currency and do not encourage people to invest into it, so that exchange converting INR to Bitcoin have been stopped. There is no strict restriction here to buy or sell crypto on decentralize platform.
Funds can be sent to India as Bitcoin or Ethereum and same can be easily converted at localbitcoins or localethereum easily, as of now there is no hard restriction over it.

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Quote from: globalsea on March 26, 2019, 06:05:09 PM

1.) What would be the best currency to use for international transfers from the US to places like India, North Korea, the Middle East.

At least everyone considers safety and transfer fees.
XLM has low fees and good transfer rates. and blockchain is available to help xlm users everywhere.

Quote from: globalsea on March 26, 2019, 06:05:09 PM

2.) How could the recipients turn their crypto into cash without going through a bank? For example, if we sent 10,000 worth of Rupee to India via crypto, how would the end user convert this into Rupee in their country?

Thanks for any and all help!

We must know the purpose of the transfer, whether the destination country provides good access to crypto exchange. I do not know that India still legalizes this transaction or not.

this should be a consideration.

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The answer will be bitcoin. You can find a seller who will help you to convert from bitcoin into fiat, and you can find it via localbitcoin. That will be the best places you can use to exchange bitcoin to fiat.
Remember the seller so you don't have to contact it via localbitcoin and you could also ask his mobile phones, so it will make you easy to contact him.
My suggestion is don't use exchanges because it will need days to receive the money. Usually, the exchanges follow with the rule from the local banks.

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Quote from: globalsea on March 26, 2019, 06:05:09 PM

1.) What would be the best currency to use for international transfers from the US to places like India, North Korea, the Middle East.

Bitcoin would be the best currency to use.

Quote from: globalsea on March 26, 2019, 06:05:09 PM

2.) How could the recipients turn their crypto into cash without going through a bank? For example, if we sent 10,000 worth of Rupee to India via crypto, how would the end user convert this into Rupee in their country?

They just have to look for a local exchange in their country or they could just look for a person that is willing to trade their coins for their currency. About North Korea, I doubt that they can find a local exchange there.

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Quote from: globalsea on March 26, 2019, 06:05:09 PM

1.) What would be the best currency to use for international transfers from the US to places like India, North Korea, the Middle East.

Bitcoin would always be preferable.

Quote from: globalsea on March 26, 2019, 06:05:09 PM

2.) How could the recipients turn their crypto into cash without going through a bank? For example, if we sent 10,000 worth of Rupee to India via crypto, how would the end user convert this into Rupee in their country?

You cant use up those local exchange yet it do have some regulation.So, your last resort is peer to peer transactions towards other parties.

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Quote from: globalsea on March 26, 2019, 06:05:09 PM

1.) What would be the best currency to use for international transfers from the US to places like India, North Korea, the Middle East.

2.) How could the recipients turn their crypto into cash without going through a bank? For example, if we sent 10,000 worth of Rupee to India via crypto, how would the end user convert this into Rupee in their country?

these two questions are not separate from each other. they depend on one another instead.
you are looking for a cryptocurrency that you can easily send overseas while the receiver wants to easily receive them and the be able to find a place where they can sell them (convert to fiat). and do all that in the safes way possible.
the only answer is bitcoin. it has the most secure network, and more important most secure wallets (from full nodes which are the hardest to use, down to SPV/light wallets that are easiest to use. and they work on multiple platforms and devices). additionally the adoption that bitcoin has compared to anything else makes it a much easier (but still hard) thing to covert to and from cash.
the problem however is that although bitcoin is by far the most popular cryptocurrency it still has not reached mass adoption so people will always have a hard time when it comes to exchanging it with fiat.

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Quote from: globalsea on March 26, 2019, 06:05:09 PM

1.) What would be the best currency to use for international transfers from the US to places like India, North Korea, the Middle East.

Everyone says Bitcoin, but if you want some privacy and impossibility tracking currencies, Monero may be a good option.

Quote from: globalsea on March 26, 2019, 06:05:09 PM

2.) How could the recipients turn their crypto into cash without going through a bank? For example, if we sent 10,000 worth of Rupee to India via crypto, how would the end user convert this into Rupee in their country?

We are still in a world dominated by banks and paper money, it is difficult to conduct transactions without going through some central roads except in the case of cash. Seems to be an inappropriate option in case of large transactions.
Localbitcoin: It was an option but it would impose some regulations.
You need to trust another party to make these conversions happen.

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Quote from: globalsea on March 26, 2019, 06:05:09 PM

2.) How could the recipients turn their crypto into cash without going through a bank? For example, if we sent 10,000 worth of Rupee to India via crypto, how would the end user convert this into Rupee in their country?

IMO the only option is peer 2 peer trading, and by that I mean direct trade / trading on the spot, not using platform like Localbitcoins. In such countries, considering they're really oppressed by the government and there's a lack of innovation, I also believe there won't be any exchange that support direct withdrawal to their own bank account.

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Quote from: globalsea on March 26, 2019, 06:05:09 PM

1.) What would be the best currency to use for international transfers from the US to places like India, North Korea, the Middle East.

Bitcoin will still the best cryptocurrency for that purpose but surely you need to make sure about the regulation at the mentioned countries. Afaik India has very strict rules about crypto, the last time I heard that Zebpay which is the biggest exchange in India stopped their service to cash out fiat money to local bank account. Not really sure about the latest news.

Quote from: globalsea on March 26, 2019, 06:05:09 PM

2.) How could the recipients turn their crypto into cash without going through a bank? For example, if we sent 10,000 worth of Rupee to India via crypto, how would the end user convert this into Rupee in their country?

Peer to peer would be the best option, or maybe bitcoin ATM (if any).

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Quote from: globalsea on March 26, 2019, 06:05:09 PM

1.) What would be the best currency to use for international transfers from the US to places like India, North Korea, the Middle East.

Bitcoin. I'm not very specific and aware of the current status of crypto adoption on India and North Korea but AFAIK, you can use it there. Wait, you have contact on North Korea?

Quote from: globalsea on March 26, 2019, 06:05:09 PM

2.) How could the recipients turn their crypto into cash without going through a bank? For example, if we sent 10,000 worth of Rupee to India via crypto, how would the end user convert this into Rupee in their country?

They can use a local exchanger for that or sell it through Peer to peer trading.

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Hey there. I work at a non profit and we help people throughout the world who are discriminated against, oppressed, and even killed for their ideals and beliefs. We have bases throughout the world and we transfer money to each of these bases. However, with governments/private banks being corrupt in these countries, sometimes these transfers are ceased.

We would like to utilize crypto currency to solve our problem. Do you have any ideas on the below question?

1.) What would be the best currency to use for international transfers from the US to places like India, North Korea, the Middle East.

2.) How could the recipients turn their crypto into cash without going through a bank? For example, if we sent 10,000 worth of Rupee to India via crypto, how would the end user convert this into Rupee in their country?

Thanks for any and all help!

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