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Topic: Valuing Bitcoin with Metcalfe's Law (Read 190 times)

legendary
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August 12, 2019, 05:59:04 PM
#7
It may make me look like an asshole, but not a moron. Who the hell would it be news to that there is a correlation between usage and price? Why didn't this guy write 16 pages on explaining that there is a correlation between the sun being out and daytime?
It's actually a more nuanced way of explaining (breaking down) the importance of adoption/use. People always say that adoption relates to price appreciation, but fail to go further than that.

I can say the price has gone up to $14k because of an increase in demand, but what's that worth when you keep it at that? It would make sense to actually explain why the price has gone up, where the demand comes from, etc.

Coming back to the article, it's a long read but still somewhat hocus pocus to me. It can also be me as a simple being needing some catching up to do and widen my general field of interest.
legendary
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August 12, 2019, 04:47:30 PM
#6
So 16 pages to explain there is a correlation between price and adoption? no fucking shit, sherlock.


No need to be an asshole, if you don’t have anything constructive to add then why bother?
It just makes you like like a moron!

It may make me look like an asshole, but not a moron. Who the hell would it be news to that there is a correlation between usage and price? Why didn't this guy write 16 pages on explaining that there is a correlation between the sun being out and daytime?

I didn't write that article , I don't profit from it.
I said Metcalfe is a mystery to me
I said 0.57 R^2 seems low to me (compared to other models, say SF by PlanB having way higher R2)
I said the conclusion are quite vague about price target


Yet I try to understand something new.
I used some Metcalfe Law based valuation when I first invested in bitcoin (others were gold capitalisation comparisons and net worth allocation hypothesis): this is why I am still interested in Metcalfe laws.
No need to be a moron/asshole, just bring your consideration here.

member
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August 12, 2019, 04:18:08 PM
#5
So 16 pages to explain there is a correlation between price and adoption? no fucking shit, sherlock.


No need to be an asshole, if you don’t have anything constructive to add then why bother?
It just makes you like like a moron!

It may make me look like an asshole, but not a moron. Who the hell would it be news to that there is a correlation between usage and price? Why didn't this guy write 16 pages on explaining that there is a correlation between the sun being out and daytime?
legendary
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August 12, 2019, 03:23:02 PM
#4
Currently every minor boost in user adoption can lead to a significant increase in price, especially when it comes to adoption of higher tier investors and institutions. I would qualify this tier of adoption as the elite tier, while the more average retailers are very unstable and don't bring much to the table unless they enter the market by the millions.

What we are seeing with Bitcoin this year is that the adoption it's enjoying very likely comes from that elite tier. Altcoins aren't feeling the love yet, which indicates that the lower tier retailers are not suckered in yet.
legendary
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August 12, 2019, 02:01:26 PM
#3
So 16 pages to explain there is a correlation between price and adoption? no fucking shit, sherlock.


No need to be an asshole, if you don’t have anything constructive to add then why bother?
It just makes you like like a moron!
member
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August 12, 2019, 01:52:51 PM
#2
So 16 pages to explain there is a correlation between price and adoption? no fucking shit, sherlock.
legendary
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August 12, 2019, 09:05:45 AM
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This paper has just been published:
Bitcoin Spreads Like a Virus

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Abstract

We illustrate, by way of example, that Bitcoin’s long-term price is non-random and can be modeled as a function of the logistic growth of number of users n over time. Using observed data for both Facebook and Bitcoin, we derive the relationships between price, number of users, and time, and show that the resulting market capitalizations likely follow a Gompertz sigmoid growth function. This function, historically used to describe the growth of biological organisms like bacteria, tumors, and viruses, likely has some application to network economics. We conclude that the long-term growth rate in users has considerable effect on the long-term price of bitcoin.

You can anonymously download the paper clicking "Download without registration" on the right side.

The Study gives the conclusion..




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A key application of our findings is the ability to evaluate data and marketplace news with the
intent to separate meaningful information from misleading noise. Noise is a dominant driver of price and
volatility in the short-term. It is not noteworthy that markets disseminate and consume noise about bitcoin
or any other cryptocurrency. Forecasts of sky-high prices and doomsday crashes are common with bitcoin.
In many cases, cryptocurrency information (positive and negative) is crafted in a convincing way by
experienced and knowledgeable sources and presented by reputable media. In isolation, these predictions
are indistinguishable from information, even though they are probably noise.
Though value is not observable, even an imperfect assessment of value serves to keep markets
efficient. Over time price tends toward value. The model we have presented serves as a backdrop against
which potential information can be evaluated. It does not predict that bitcoin’s price will soar or crash.
Rather, it suggests that the probability of those extreme those events is very small because ultimately
number of users drives price.
To date, the typical approach to cryptocurrency valuation has been via Metcalfe’s law. Commonly
expressed in shorthand as n2, it is the approximate value of P when n is large. We show that price is a
function of n users, as Metcalfe’s law states. Our research differs from past models in that we derive that
n may grow at a non-constant rate over time, as a Gompertz function would indicate. This function,
usually used to describe the growth of biological organisms like bacteria, tumors, and viruses, likely has
some application to network economics, including cryptocurrency valuation. Lastly, we confirm past
research that the long-term growth rate in users has considerable effect on the long-term price of bitcoin.

Metcalfe law has been quite a mystery to me, even thou it was one of my three fundamental approach at valuing bitcoin when i originally invested. This study can reingorce the findings, even thou a R2=0,57 may seem not much.



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