Topic: Vegetable Prices Soar 40% as Crops Fail Under Extreme Weather (Read 487 times)

Speaking of tastes I have forgotten how pears taste like . I don't know what they did to pear trees or if it is the same in other countries but they no longer have any taste here. Each year when it's their season I buy them and get disappointed again.

Sounds like a good plan but you are forgetting a few factors. First of all, you need land to grow the vegetables. If you have a spare garden with enough space to start farming its great, but most people live in big cities with apartments. There is the chance to grow some herbs on the balcony, but that is pretty much it. There is the chance to rent a small piece of land at the outskirts of the big cities, but they are expensive and there is a lot of demand for them. Another factor to consider is water prices, as in most regions of the world vegetables need a lot of water to grow. Another thing could be protection against storms or frost. I think growing vegetables on a larger scale efficiently is quite a hard job and will require some knowledge before getting into it.

Speaking of tastes I have forgotten how pears taste like . I don't know what they did to pear trees or if it is the same in other countries but they no longer have any taste here. Each year when it's their season I buy them and get disappointed again.

What options do those with less disposable income have? A pack of seeds can cost as low as $5 which could conceivably allow for percentage interest on gains within an entry level setting. If it is possible to grow $50 of food from a $5 pack of seeds, then in theory 10x return on investment becomes possible.

The most tragic thing in the whole story is the fact that most of today's young people do not know what a tomato, cucumber or pepper really tastes like.

I think the thought has been entertained a few too many times but little to no effort has been made to actualize this. Desalinating into potable water may not just work because of as you said, huge costs to run it, which could in turn cause multiple companies to privatize it and in return, charge more for water. I think the better solution to this is to really bank on efforts to rehabilitate the environment especially areas that could work as freshwater basins. You're hitting two birds with one stone with that too cause it also helps reduce the effects of climate change, especially if done on a large scale.

This makes me think whether the solution to water scarcity in the future will depend on our Desalination capacity (turn water from the ocean into potable water).
If I recall correctly, it is a process which consumes a big quantity of energy but it may be worth a shot to industrialize it, ideally using renewable energy or nuclear energy.

It would be also productive to use that obtained water efficiently, I have read some articles on how watering plants is better at night, since the evaporation rates are slower, for obvious reasons.

This is actually incorrect. 

Humanity produces four times the food on 2/3s Less land then we did 100 years ago.   

So no, we are not in any danger of running out of food or running out of argi space. 

Any food scarcity we have is close to 100% political problems.  and as usual then blame something other then whats actually true.

Things are getting BETTER.  Not worse.   

https://www.humanprogress.org/things-are-getting-better/

Yes, this would be the primary reason but we dont know if this one is really that real or just making out alibis just to make these supplies really that soaring up in price.
If we do talk about climate change then it is really that happening but there are still places which arent really that affected much which there's no point on raising up the value
if its not really that truly affected.

Extreme weather is indeed the biggest problem for agriculture, many countries do everything to overcome extreme weather but not yet successful, of course, it has a direct impact on agricultural products, which is a lot of failed to harvest so that it makes the price of agricultural materials soaring, and vegetable .

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Humanity produces four times the food on 2/3s Less land then we did 100 years ago.   
Things are getting BETTER.  Not worse.   

Extreme weather plays its part, but at the same time we are ignoring other factors. From what I have seen in my area, more and more fertile farmland is being converted in to residential and industrial areas. And it is no coincidence that most of the major urban areas in the world are located in the vicinity of prime agricultural land. And secondly, human population continues to grow at an astounding pace. The crop yields are not raising to cope up with this growth in population. As a result land that is less suitable for agriculture is being used for that purpose, resulting in reduced agricultural output.

I would prefer vertical farming over artificial rain technology. Lets be honest, we are a stage in world where you could buy a big warehouse and raise enough food for a whole town, just in a warehouse, we are talking about that much capability.

Normally when we are talking about regular farming you would need so much land, but with vertical farming, specially when we are talking about aqua farming, where you do not even use dirt but just water, that looks like it's going to be impossible the be more efficient. That is why it's quite important to realize that it's not a big deal and it's definitely not a situation where things could ever be considered going bad, we have a great future for sure.

I would prefer vertical farming over artificial rain technology. Let's be honest, we are a stage in world where you could buy a big warehouse and raise enough food for a whole town, just in a warehouse, we are talking about that much capability.

Maybe artificial rain technology is important to do at certain times such as very dry droughts, but it is not recommended to do it on a long-term scale because it will affect soil fertility and soil pollution. After all, artificial rain usually contains too much salt.
Also, when this technology is implemented on a large scale and continuously, it will affect the hydrological cycle which will endanger the water supply in the soil during the dry season.
Maybe all of this happened because farmers in California used this technology several years ago so that agricultural land cannot hold water in it so it dries up easily when the dry season arrives.

this is the reason why technology plays such an important role in overcoming crop failures like this .. with technology we can manipulate the weather and grow crops without worrying about crop failure or pest attacks .. even though developing this kind of technology is quite expensive, but in the long run it will really worth it

This makes me think whether the solution to water scarcity in the future will depend on our Desalination capacity (turn water from the ocean into potable water).
If I recall correctly, it is a process which consumes a big quantity of energy but it may be worth a shot to industrialize it, ideally using renewable energy or nuclear energy. 

Unfortunately that is extremely harmful to the environment and the cost isn't that low either. It destroys the local fish and other sea animals' life (so it also ruins fishing market) and the remainder salt and other impurities has to be disposed usually in the middle of the sea which is costly.

This makes me think whether the solution to water scarcity in the future will depend on our Desalination capacity (turn water from the ocean into potable water).

The US is not the only one experiencing these extreme price rises in vegetables recently. Here in the Philippines, the cost of onions soared over 200% within the last 6 months, and even though crop farming is good since there aren't that much typhoons that devastated the farmlands that produce these things, the gov't can't do something about the price of the produce and have just suggested people to be 'thrifty' in any way they can. Other greens such as cabbage and lettuce have also experienced price increases over the months, although not as harsh as onions and chilis but you can feel it in your pocket. Imagine trying to be healthy and eat healthy, but the prices of green produce which should be a cheap and viable option is now more expensive than chicken, pork, and beef per kilo.  

What options do those with less disposable income have? A pack of seeds can cost as low as $5 which could conceivably allow for percentage interest on gains within an entry level setting. If it is possible to grow $50 of food from a $5 pack of seeds, then in theory 10x return on investment becomes possible.

Another approach could be for stablecoins pegged to the value of agriculture commodities. For example, if there was a theoretical crypto token called potato coin, which guaranteed it could be exchanged for 5 potatos. Said crypto token could be pegged to the value of potato commodities. This could be useful in various circumstances. Can anyone guess how?

This makes me think whether the solution to water scarcity in the future will depend on our Desalination capacity (turn water from the ocean into potable water).
If I recall correctly, it is a process which consumes a large quantity of energy but it may be worth a shot to industrialize it, ideally using renewable energy or nuclear energy.

It would be also productive to use that obtained water efficiently, I have read some articles on how watering plants is better at night, since the evaporation rates are slower, for obvious reasons.

#1 How about you go back to one of your countless threads in which you ask yourself this identical question - or show us with your own example how this whole operation, which we can call "from seed to product" works in practice?

#2 Again, I ask you to show with a concrete example the famous tokenization of everything in the world

What options do those with less disposable income have? A pack of seeds can cost as low as $5 which could conceivably allow for percentage interest on gains within an entry level setting. If it is possible to grow $50 of food from a $5 pack of seeds, then in theory 10x return on investment becomes possible.

Another approach could be for stablecoins pegged to the value of agriculture commodities. For example, if there was a theoretical crypto token called potato coin, which guaranteed it could be exchanged for 5 potatos. Said crypto token could be pegged to the value of potato commodities. This could be useful in various circumstances. Can anyone guess how?

Vegetable prices in the U.S. are around 40% higher this year and experts are saying climate change has played a prominent role. Bloomberg is reporting that Arizona produces 90% of leafy greens in the U.S. from November through March each year, but crop production has been greatly affected this year by a drought forming from reduced water levels in the Colorado River.

This makes me think whether the solution to water scarcity in the future will depend on our Desalination capacity (turn water from the ocean into potable water).
If I recall correctly, it is a process which consumes a big quantity of energy but it may be worth a shot to industrialize it, ideally using renewable energy or nuclear energy.

It would be also productive to use that obtained water efficiently, I have read some articles on how watering plants is better at night, since the evaporation rates are slower, for obvious reasons.

The cost of produce in the U.S. is continuing to rise as crops dwindle from increasing levels of climate change.

Vegetable prices in the U.S. are around 40% higher this year and experts are saying climate change has played a prominent role. Bloomberg is reporting that Arizona produces 90% of leafy greens in the U.S. from November through March each year, but crop production has been greatly affected this year by a drought forming from reduced water levels in the Colorado River.

The decreasing amount of snow and rain has dwindled in recent years, moving into its 23rd year of drought, causing the Colorado River to shrink, according to research by Nature Climate Change.

The U.S. announced it plans to withhold about one-fifth of the water next year that’s given to Arizona’s farmers as climate change and the drought impact the Colorado River.

Meanwhile, California is known as the top state in the U.S. for agriculture but has faced severe droughts this year, resulting in $3 billion worth of losses, and after Hurricane Ian and Hurricane Nicole made landfall in Florida, it cost the produce industry nearly $2 billion across the state.

The loss in agriculture has prompted a rise in retail prices across the U.S., helping to drive inflation costs to the highest levels in 40 years. “There’s just not enough water to grow everything that we normally grow,” Don Cameron, president of the State Board of Food and Agriculture, told the Times of San Diego.

The cost of produce was up by 38.1% in November from the previous month, and the producer price index, which measures what companies are paid for their products, increased by 0.3% in November compared to the previous month, and increased 7.4% from a year ago, according to the U.S. Bureau of Labor Statistics.

Scientists have warned against climate change for decades, saying increased global temperatures will bring about extreme and unusual weather changes. The National Oceanic and Atmospheric Administration reported as of October of this year, there have been more than a dozen weather or climate disaster events, resulting in over $1 billion in losses in each instance.

“Every year the farmers who feed our nation get smarter and more resilient, but it’s increasingly stressful to adapt to the extreme variability they face,” Erica Kistner-Thomas, with the U.S. Department of Agriculture’s National Institute of Food and Agriculture, told USA Today. She added, “One year they’ll have the best year ever and then the next year they’ll be hit with a major flooding event or drought.”

Paul Mitchell, a professor of agriculture and applied economics at the University of Wisconsin, Madison told the outlet although “crops are more resilient to dry weather than they were 20 years ago,” as the events devastating crops become more frequent, crops won’t be able to adapt quickly enough.

“U.S. agricultural productivity is rising, but it’s not becoming more resilient to extremes,” Mitchell said and questioned, “When bad years start to line up, are we doing things to prepare for the unusual as it becomes more usual?”

https://gizmodo.com/food-prices-climate-change-inflation-drought-1849883609