Topic: viabtc.com will be launching cloud mining service (Read 1612 times)

That was a good explanation.

I wouldn't trust a cloudmining service just because they were cloudmining in the first place but that bitcoin unlimited and roger ver thing takes it even further.

They are simply trying you to buy you out just to promote their dying fork bitcoin unlimited.

Viabtc is pool of bitcoins mining and it is new on bitcoin cloud mining. HaoBTC is more trustworthy than viabtc because of one of the largest miners by about 110 Petahash, controls just over 4% of the Bitcoin network, a new hash rate fair where you can buy part of the Bitcoin mining network or sale with a Minimum purchase of 1 launched Terahash.
HaoBTC was established in September 2014. It is an exclusive property of Beijing Inevitable Technologies Ltd. The founding members graduated from some of the best top universities in China and have already worked in high-tech companies such as Baidu, Microsoft, etc.
It is believed the company used F2pool mines before launching a private pool earlier this year. The most famous of the founding members of Wu Gang, a figure well known in the Chinese community and an early evangelist bitcoin. He was the organizer of the 1922 minor meeting where the consensus seems to be reached to support classic Bitcoin, but only if it increased its threshold to 90%. If classic Bitcoin did not succeed in doing so, apparently Gang against the proposal, maybe only to determine the outcome of one of the most lively debates so far.
HaoBTC is unique among Chinese miners to offer their facilities for purchase. In addition, the only known company that offers both a normal exchange rate and the purchase of hash of non-Chinese customers. They may therefore be well placed to bridge the cultural and geographic gap between the two Bitcoin communities .

Instead of using a securitized cloudmining service, find a reliable hosting service that receive your hardware and charge you certain amount per kWh your hardware consumes. It is ponzi proof as you can verify on your pool account.

Yep, you are right Not all cloud mining are a scam. But unfortunately people in here considered bitcoins cloud mining service that doesn't make profit for them it is mean scam service, they just are looking for profitable cloud mining cloud mining service include me and you can not be change their mind. Or maybe you will share info about making profit via cloud mining, please share on here. Thanks

ViaBTC is a bribed pool under the indirect control of Roger Ver. Their offering of cloud mining services can be considered a desperate attempt by Ver to maintain his reckless blocking attempt of Segregated Witness via hashrate expansion.

So even if ViaBTC's cloud mining service is not scamming its users, using their service means scamming the Bitcoin community, because every cent spent on ViaBTC is an indirect donation to Roger Ver. The Unlimited altcoin promoted by Roger Ver through his propaganda site Bitcoin.com must be considered a direct attack on the decentralized nature of the Bitcoin network.

Ver's motives are clear: blocking progress in Bitcoin development to increase the value of his numerous altcoin investments.

They just sell their life time or years worth of cloud mining contracts to people thinking they are really mining and earning money by doing absolutely nothing, while in fact nothing is happening.

The operators are simply paying out people with the money that they get from the sold contracts. They don't pay you out with rewards from their actual mining operations.

As long as there is new money coming in due to people buying themselves into these contracts, they will be able to pay out people as usual.

But if they notice that everything is slowing down, they will up the maintenance fees in an attempt to reduce the amount of coins that they have to pay out to people. It's a good money making opportunity for the operators.

Yea... everything can be happening personality i am looking for other informations about UFOMiners and it is hardware supplier not cloud mining service, the point is more safe hardware mining than cloud mining of course with mining altcoins profitable.

UFOminers as in unidentified mining facilities?
or disappear fast and without a trace?
even if I planned to invest in cloudmining,which I don't and don't recommend any of you do
a company with such a name will definitely be the bottom of my list of priorities
whatever they write on their website is pretty much irrelevant unless you can confirm it from different legit sources

I am doubt about cloud mining, but if you want keep mining i think you must see about the UFOMiners services, it is the details UFOMiners statement:

If Bitcoin mining is more competitive, UFOMiners continues to invest in new technologies to ensure miners have the most advanced equipment. In two years, the Las Vegas-based company considers mining machinery imported for the specific needs of today's mining community.
In early 2014, UFOMiners played a leading role in the new generation of mining technology. After two years of hard work, manufacturing and testing, they were able to release the second generation mining equipment that meets the needs of a wide range of miners.
None Third Party Solutions

The company develops its independent components of third-party solutions, keeping an eye on new methods and techniques to increase performance and reduce costs. Some high-tech modules are manufactured with a partner plant in Asia.

"Our team of experts has been working for over two years at our recently released products that are high-performance and cost-effective," said Ruben Fox, UFOMiners Media Coordinator. "Since we recently our products, based on what the device has been released, we believe there is a big impact on the entire crypto-currency market, which we hope is good."

Fox believes that the equipment market will bring more people into the mining industry, because the machines are easy to use.
Protection and warranties

All machines until the two-phase test procedures to ensure protection against defects.

UFOMiners offers free, guaranteed delivery to all parts of the world by UPS, DHL or FedEx. Orders are shipped within 3-7 days. All machines are equipped with a guarantee.

"We have 24/7 technical support for all our customers," said Fox. "Once the order is made, the customer will receive a phone number and email, where they get an answer within 30 minutes. Each minor is fully insured upon delivery. "

There are no minimum or minimum size commands.

The company accepts payments in Bitcoins, Lite Coins and bank transfers. Bitcoins and Lite Coins are the preferred methods and will give rise to automatic transmission.
Eight product offers
The Mesa Miner at $ 3,600, offers a complete stability of operation, but it has a better performance (19E / s). UFOMiners used 20nm ASIC chips and advanced technical designs to create this 4U minor rack. Mesa Miner has an integrated controller and comes with a preinstalled operating system and software. It is easy to maintain and has only a slight start-up. Users can begin mining in five minutes.
The NekrosMiner at $ 4,800, is the most powerful and energy-efficient SHA-256 today. Ultrafast 85e / minor Bitcoin will be provided in a practical 4U Rackmount case and ready for mining, with power, controller, cables and installation included. NekrosMiner has an integrated controller and comes with the pre-installed operating system and software. It is easy to maintain and has only a few small startups.
The Oberon litecoin Miner 1.2 GH / s at $ 3,200, can also be used for other cryptocurrencies with scrypt-based extraction algorithms. The company uses the Scrypt algorithm to a whole new level by creating miners Lite Coins, Dogecoins, etc. An extended warranty (five years) relates to reaching all possible defects. Oberon Miner has an integrated controller and preinstalled software.
The Ethereum Rhino Miner Premier 1.4GH / s, at $ 4900, has 1xDMI ports for monitor connection, 2 USB ports for mouse and keyboard connection and 2xLAN Ethernet for connection in cascade mode.

• The ZCash Equinox 900H / s, at $ 3,300, offers 1xHDMI ports for monitor connection, 2 USB ports for mouse and keyboard connection and 2xLAN Ethernet for connection to a network in cascade mode.

• The ZCash Equinox Premier 2.2KH / s, at $ 4900, has 1xHDMI ports for monitor connection, 2 USB ports for mouse and keyboard connection and 2xLAN Ethernet for connection to a network in cascade mode.

i don't see how any cloud mining can be worth the while of the operators. throw in their murky agenda and i for one am gonna pass on this golden opportunity.

Not all cloudmining are a scam some can work but if you need to invest some bitcoins  to only get a little more  back then you invested  this must be something wrong this and so making it more like a scam.  So by doing the math the miner sell 1 bitcoins worth of hashing power to you for 1.50 bitcoins then who's making more bitcoins then

I was curious about the ViaBTC cloud mining offer since they are using S9s and have a reasonable fee structure. Electric rates are good. I bought the minimum 1TH/s for 0.21 bitcoin and have been getting payouts every day. With less than a weeks' payouts it is hard to make projections but breakeven should be about 300 days.

If you decide to participate make sure you pay from a wallet like Electrum which lets you sign messages with a bitcoin address, you will need to do that to transfer your hashpower to the website. Or you can just continue to receive daily payouts to your bitcoin address you signed up with.

At the ViaBTC website they show daily payout per TH/s to be 0.00090491 bitcoin. After fees deducted I have been receiving about .0007 per day for my single TH/s. After a week has passed I will update this post with the weekly payout.

I think there will be a big exception with viabtc, especially if they can show proof of their datacenter. They're a relatively new and large pool right now.

For all you out there who haven't already realised, Bitcoin Unlimited is a fork supporting a whole range of changes, of which one is larger blocksize.

Cloud minings aren't trusted. They can have all the equipments you said with evidences, but at some point investors will stop making profit, as any other cloud mining site, we already saw it here a lot of times, investors complaining all the time. All the offers this kind of service show us is just an illusion. People should stop believing and investing on this service. Total waste of time and money.

whenever I hear "cloudmining" I immediately put my leather wallet into the inner pockets of my jacket
any company that has enough money to build a mining center facility from scratch and is endorsed by an ASIC vendor
has 0 need to attract investor's money in the form of undercutting its own profits,it just doesn't make sense
the only way it could work as if a future mining offers a concrete business plan that involves crowdfunding during the start
so they could purchase additional equipment or build facilities they otherwise would not be able to

Actually your right "cloudmining" word is totally itchy to hear in my ears and i don't really trust them since i mark them all as scam and truly thats trully happening in this society, scam incidents of cloudmining is unstoppable and scammers makes it as their profit source, and we should avoid so we will not be one of their crying victims,


And their what so called data centers are just been dig or bought so they can have proof so they can have strong pharapernalia for scamming.

They were aiming about take the gold moment of bitcoin.
Some were telling me about the fact of via while this case was making an unclear thing. between yes or not.

Although if it was becoming speculation while this time was getting the right time. 
It's will useful for all.

As long as there is an attached word 'cloud mining' then I won't trust this kind of service or investment schemes.

And I have read a lot of those proofs that they are saying about 'data centers' just to make their investors feel safe with them.

I'm sicked of those type of dramas, just stay away from cloud mining simple as that.

Yes, and we could saw in past time many cloud mining service had gone, there were many examples ltcgear, scrypt.cc, cointellect, HashOcean, all of them were disappear and about the viabtc.com i don't want make speculation more wise we wait and see because it is still their planing.

seems like since bitcoin price has been going up everyone is thinking about making profit from this even. and i am sure so many others will start claiming they have launched a cloudmining service, we have to search for ourselves to find out if it is a lie or the truth!

In an AMA on Reddit, the CEO of ViaBTC said that most mining pools in China support larger block sizes on bitcoin. The thread drew strong support and criticism of Bitcoin Unlimited, which would allow flexible block sizes, but i am still doubtful it is will be successful related their plan launching cloud mining service.

This is problably thir main goal.

ViaBTC is the only big mining pool which stands against SegWit and follow Bitcoin Unlimited instead. They have roughly 9% of total hash power.
It is their last stand to gather more crowd to follow Bitcoin Unlimited and nothing more. I would avoid their service like the plague.

It simply shows that they are trying to get more hashpower supporting bitcoin unlimited using investors money and like all cloud mining the one who will invest in this cloud mining may not get any significant profit on end, viabtc will own more mining devices purchased by investors after contract finish.

I don't know, there are so many scams with cloud mining scheems. And what is exactly Bitcoin Unlimited mining community? Offers like this always sound good but....
I wouldn't go for this, seems to risky. Maybe that you try with some other kind of investment?

Well check https://blockchain.info/pools. It shows 8% of total mining hashrate and Btc.com shows 150+ PH/s  for ViaBtc so I think they are mining actually. Don't know how much truth there is in Antminer S9 thing though.

Luck chart is a chart that shows luck rate of hitting a block. It is calculated with shares submitted against bitcoin network difficulty.

I never believe in any kind of cloud mining service online because most of them are scammers. There is no real picture or evidence about they are setting up a mining system with Antminer S9. Be careful when you try to join these site

Actually you are still missing what OP is trying to say by unlimited bitcoin is not unlimited supply of bitcoin check https://www.bitcoinunlimited.info/
bitcoin unlimited can be treated as alternative bitcoin client, bitcoin core win the majority of support and if you check https://bitnodes.21.co/nodes/ only around 5% are supporting unlimited client.

This cloud mining service they are trying to offer seems an attempt to increase support to bitcoin unlimited by luring investors in the name of bitcoin mining which i don't think gonna get any success. Bitcoin core will always remain as most trusted client and dev team.

My bad about that part, but still I don't think the mining community would be unlimited as it is actually limited due to difficulty and big farms taking over, it's limited to places with very cheap power supply and also the best hardware as we can see few companies failed and vanished in competition.
Anyways some links would be great, or some videos maybe?

when is viabtc.com launch
and how much hash porwer price per GHz ,
and how much minimum buy in there or minimum invest in there, and how much return include reduce fee

Where the prove? There's no mining equipment photos or even company profile
"Bitcoin unlimited community" it's something like scammer community?
https://www.viabtc.com/state/btc/ what means luck chart? They think mining is gamble???

I am doubt you read carefully about my posting but i make clear especially for you,
the unlimited comunity of miners and it is not unlimited bitcoins or bitcoin's clones or forks
i am talking about ViaBTC.com that will be launching cloud mining service. Hope answers your question.

Seems word doesn't make sense for me. It makes a lot of scam assumption about them will appear. Why doesn't Via use it for their facility?
I also feel suspicious with it. I may think if that has biggest chance for to be another scam again.

What do you mean unlimited bitcoins? are you talking about bitcoin's clones/forks?
Cloud mining isn't profitable even with cheap power and hardware, only if you are a manufacturer and using a solar energy supply.
But if by any chance they have the both in pocket then pictures, videos, locations addresses, owners info and a clear pricing offered would be a good indication for people to decide whether it could earn any real profit or not.

ViaBTC.com is pool of bitcoin mining and ViaBTC claims that it has set up a 2.4 PH/s data center running on Bitmain’s AntMiner S9 mining equipment. The total hashing power of ViaBTC’s cloud mining infrastructure can be bought by individuals and companies to be a part of the Bitcoin Unlimited mining community, and gain a portion of the mining rewards as a return on investment. However, the Bitcoin Core followers haven’t taken this development lightly. Some have even labeled the ViaBTC‘s cloud mining service as a scam. 
How do you think about this service? Is it will become trusted service or not. Thanks