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Topic: Vote for secession of Alaska from the United States and joining Russia (Read 6254 times)

legendary
Activity: 3752
Merit: 1217
Shouldn't people of Alaska decide to witch country they want to belong ?

Yes.. conduct a referendum on this issue. Let's see how much support is there for Russia.
newbie
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Merit: 0
Shouldn't people of Alaska decide to witch country they want to belong ?

I don't want to enforce my opinion on this people only because there is more and more nationalist movement recently.
member
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Merit: 10
OK... two more weeks left and we are still short of 60K. Let's go back to blaming Tsar Alexander II for his folly.  Grin
Alexander why... why you did this. Now Russians are struggling without another snowy part of the country!
sr. member
Activity: 350
Merit: 250
for his folly.  Grin

I consider not, that was a folly, Russia will lost this land in any way.
Russian Government enter in collapse only to build trannsiberian rail road, and become war from Japan.
legendary
Activity: 3752
Merit: 1217
OK... two more weeks left and we are still short of 60K. Let's go back to blaming Tsar Alexander II for his folly.  Grin
hero member
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Merit: 501
in defi we trust
Total signatures on this petition

39,436

i wonder how many are russian fake accounts Smiley.
sr. member
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Merit: 250
Total signatures on this petition

39,436
sr. member
Activity: 350
Merit: 250
legendary
Activity: 3752
Merit: 1217
Total signatures on this petition

38,806

Not enough. Only two weeks are remaining. It'll never reach the required number of signatures. Still... it was good PR for Putin & Co.
sr. member
Activity: 350
Merit: 250
Total signatures on this petition

38,806
legendary
Activity: 3752
Merit: 1217
Are you kidding me. U guys are signing petitions for us to give alsaka to Russia. Is there anything else you want. Lets give some part to you also. Why dont we give all the americas to them. Lets sign that petition.

Americans didn't had any problem in giving a part of Serbia to the Albanians. They even bombed Belgrade and killed thousands of children and elderly people to force Serbia to do that. Why U-turns now?
sr. member
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Are you kidding me. U guys are signing petitions for us to give alsaka to Russia. Is there anything else you want. Lets give some part to you also. Why dont we give all the americas to them. Lets sign that petition.
legendary
Activity: 3752
Merit: 1217
Oil drilling is banned in most parts of Alaska because of environmental concerns. Almost all of the Gold is already exploited.

And South Dakota (not Alaska) is the US state which pumps out the maximum amount of crude.

Nope. Texas produces around 40% of the US crude production (including those rigs in the Gulf of Mexico). North Dakota is #2.
legendary
Activity: 3346
Merit: 1352
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Oil drilling is banned in most parts of Alaska because of environmental concerns. Almost all of the Gold is already exploited.

And South Dakota (not Alaska) is the US state which pumps out the maximum amount of crude.
legendary
Activity: 3752
Merit: 1217
They can have it back when we scrape the gold and oil out of it lol
BitcoinINV

Oil drilling is banned in most parts of Alaska because of environmental concerns. Almost all of the Gold is already exploited.
sr. member
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They can have it back when we scrape the gold and oil out of it lol
BitcoinINV
legendary
Activity: 3752
Merit: 1217
No, they appeal to conditions of sale - respect to Russian Orthodox Law in marriage in Alaska and child education in school.

To tell the truth, there are several schools in Alaska which are teaching the Russian language. There is even a school in the remote village of Voznesenka, which teaches the "Alaska Russian" language (quite different from the modern Russian language).

Russian is one of the most popular second language options in other areas of Alaska.
sr. member
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This seems highly unlikely but it show's a similar kind of comparison with the situation involving Ukraine. 

That's the whole purpose of this petition.

No, they appeal to conditions of sale - respect to Russian Orthodox Law in marriage in Alaska and child education in school.
legendary
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Merit: 1352
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This seems highly unlikely but it show's a similar kind of comparison with the situation involving Ukraine. 

That's the whole purpose of this petition.
hero member
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Merit: 500
Time is on our side, yes it is!
This seems highly unlikely but it show's a similar kind of comparison with the situation involving Ukraine. 
legendary
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Merit: 1352
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You honestly believe the petition would have an iota of effect?

Will get some good media coverage. Other than that, no effect.
legendary
Activity: 3752
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You honestly believe the petition would have an iota of effect?

That petition just have World coverage Media effect.

lol... the World media will get another stick to beat Obama.
sr. member
Activity: 350
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You honestly believe the petition would have an iota of effect?

That petition just have World coverage Media effect.
legendary
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All these petitions have even less weight than UN assembly.

May be. But even the UN is a joke right now.

You honestly believe the petition would have an iota of effect?
legendary
Activity: 3346
Merit: 1352
Leading Crypto Sports Betting & Casino Platform
All these petitions have even less weight than UN assembly.

May be. But even the UN is a joke right now.
newbie
Activity: 39
Merit: 0
I doubt United States would give back Alaska without a World War III. The petition is a joke.
legendary
Activity: 3108
Merit: 1359
All these petitions have even less weight than UN assembly.
legendary
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Merit: 1352
Leading Crypto Sports Betting & Casino Platform
Start a petition for the independence of Alaska. It'll easily cross the 100K mark.
legendary
Activity: 3752
Merit: 1217
500 signers a day times how many day left,  ahhh yes it wont make it.  I guess USA will keep Alaska. Grin

Yes... the momentum has been lost.
sr. member
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Merit: 250
WE PETITION THE OBAMA ADMINISTRATION TO:
Alaska back to Russia.
Groups Siberian russians crossed the Isthmus (now the Bering Strait) 16-10 thousand years ago.

Russian began to settle on the Arctic coast, Aleuts inhabited the Aleutian Archipelago.

First visited Alaska August 21, 1732, members of the team boat "St. Gabriel »under the surveyor Gvozdev and assistant navigator I. Fedorov during the expedition Shestakov and DI Pavlutski 1729-1735 years

Vote for secession of Alaska from the United States and joining Russia

Created: Mar 21, 2014


https://petitions.whitehouse.gov/petition/alaska-back-russia/SFG1ppfN

SIGNATURES NEEDED BY APRIL 20, 2014 TO REACH GOAL OF 100,000 - 70,022
TOTAL SIGNATURES ON THIS PETITION - 29,978

Promote this Petition
https://petitions.whitehouse.gov/petition/alaska-back-russia/SFG1ppfN


Hey did you know that Russia took part of Romania called moldova!!!!  Tell Russia to give back also!!!!

Moldova is an independent nation now not part of Russia anymore.
legendary
Activity: 3108
Merit: 1359
Putin has got a taste of acquisition now, though. So expect more Crimeas in near future.
Crimea was able to join because it has autonomy, it's a republic with own government and constitution. Only such type of subject could be joined through this schema, that's why we see no "russian spring" in the east of the Ukraine. Despite the fact that there are very large number of supporters of this outcome. There are no autonomous subjects in the eastern ukraine, so local supporters should to create this entities to make the joining possible.   Roll Eyes
newbie
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When the votes reach 100,000, Putin has the legitimacy to go in and annex Alaska back to the motherland, while Barack rains sanctions and warnings on his head. All Hail the Great Leader!

Don't you think this is rediculous that Putin is going to 'return' Alaska in case if people who live there are willing to join Russian Fedaration? Don;t you think it can allow other countries to do the same shit ?
legendary
Activity: 1050
Merit: 1000
Waste of time.

Putin has got a taste of acquisition now, though. So expect more Crimeas in near future.
sr. member
Activity: 350
Merit: 250
Total signatures on this petition

34,217
sr. member
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Total signatures on this petition

33,450
sr. member
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500 signers a day times how many day left,  ahhh yes it wont make it.  I guess USA will keep Alaska. Grin
legendary
Activity: 3108
Merit: 1359
It's just a dumb trolling of course. Dumb because this person was even incapable to read wikipedia article before making stupid threads. Cheesy

P.S.

https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.5953578

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yeah which is overpopulated with Russians  Grin

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Moldova

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Moldovans   2,564,849   75.81%   177,382   31.94%   2,742,231   69.62%
Ukrainians   282,406   8.35%   160,069   28.82%   442,475   11.23%
Russians   201,218   5.95%   168,678   30.37%   369,896   9.39%
Gagauz   147,500   4.36%   4,096   0.74%   151,596   3.85%
Romanians   73,276   2.17%   253   0.05%   73,529   1.87%
Bulgarians   65,662   1.94%   13,858   2.50%   79,520   2.02%
Romani   12,271   0.36%   507   0.09%   12,778   0.32%
Poles   2,383   0.07%   1,791   0.32%   4,174   0.11%
Others / undeclared   30,159   0.89%   27,454   4.94%   57,613   1.46%

==> Obvious troll is obvious.
legendary
Activity: 1680
Merit: 1014
no one is going to vote for that petition you wanna know, why cause Im gonna flood the same petiton and mess up the votes.  

That would be so very much like the US likes doing its "democracy".

My guess for the future is that Alaska is going to be the least of its concerns.

Hey did you know that Russia took part of Romania called moldova!!!!  Tell Russia to give back also!!!!

Wait where can I go petition this on the Russian governement???

Wait I forgot Russia like to take but not give back.

I think you need to petition for it in the government of the country called Moldova.

You are simply trolling...

sr. member
Activity: 364
Merit: 250
blah blah, always been that issue.  That issue is everywhere now.  Stop crying for Alaska back, Sold and is gone.  no one is going to vote for that petition you wanna know, why cause Im gonna flood the same petiton and mess up the votes.  

now go back to the Russian Section of bitcoin.
sr. member
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Wasnt taken by war, so why should USA, did the Russia Gov a favor and give back to Russia when it was sold to the USA. 

See agreement about preservation of LAW and moral rules.
They will have no gay education for children's.
sr. member
Activity: 350
Merit: 250
Total signatures on this petition

32,271
sr. member
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Merit: 250
Knowledge is Power
When the votes reach 100,000, Putin has the legitimacy to go in and annex Alaska back to the motherland, while Barack rains sanctions and warnings on his head. All Hail the Great Leader!
sr. member
Activity: 364
Merit: 250
Wait where can I go petition this on the Russian governement???

Wait I forgot Russia like to take but not give back.
sr. member
Activity: 364
Merit: 250
WE PETITION THE OBAMA ADMINISTRATION TO:
Alaska back to Russia.
Groups Siberian russians crossed the Isthmus (now the Bering Strait) 16-10 thousand years ago.

Russian began to settle on the Arctic coast, Aleuts inhabited the Aleutian Archipelago.

First visited Alaska August 21, 1732, members of the team boat "St. Gabriel »under the surveyor Gvozdev and assistant navigator I. Fedorov during the expedition Shestakov and DI Pavlutski 1729-1735 years

Vote for secession of Alaska from the United States and joining Russia

Created: Mar 21, 2014


https://petitions.whitehouse.gov/petition/alaska-back-russia/SFG1ppfN

SIGNATURES NEEDED BY APRIL 20, 2014 TO REACH GOAL OF 100,000 - 70,022
TOTAL SIGNATURES ON THIS PETITION - 29,978

Promote this Petition
https://petitions.whitehouse.gov/petition/alaska-back-russia/SFG1ppfN


Hey did you know that Russia took part of Romania called moldova!!!!  Tell Russia to give back also!!!!
legendary
Activity: 1680
Merit: 1014
31400 and still counting. Vote increase seems to have almost the same delta velocity as before, albeit slightly diminishing.
sr. member
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Merit: 250
Total signatures on this petition

29,978
legendary
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Merit: 1014
29100 and still counting. Smiley

@crocko: There were armed civilians forming a militia, as well as Berkut fighters who were disbanded and publicly humiliated by Kiev coup government. The task that they set for themselves was to protect the population from provocation and ensure that no one would bomb or shoot during the referendum.
Or do you prefer the American-style referendum, featuring carpet bombing with depleted Uranium munitions?
legendary
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Merit: 1359
Crimeea-style referendum  Grin  but without armed & "unknown" troops in Alaska  Wink
https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.5899455

Don't watch Cartoon News Network or Faux News so long.
hero member
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'All that glitters is not gold'
Crimeea-style referendum  Grin  but without armed & "unknown" troops in Alaska  Wink
sr. member
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Merit: 250
Damn up to 28,369 already

I'm legit interested in seeing Obama get all upset and reject another secession attempt.

sr. member
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...but since I know the people there are much smarter than that, yeah, I think this is a joke.

As they say in Russia, every joke has a grain of truth in it.  Tongue


Local population link in agreement, that promise conservation of traditional uses. Well - no gay marriage in Alaska.
legendary
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Merit: 1014
...but since I know the people there are much smarter than that, yeah, I think this is a joke.

As they say in Russia, every joke has a grain of truth in it.  Tongue
sr. member
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the sizeable populations there are there from the time they were trying to escape USSR

Or escape from Israel?
legendary
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Does any one know that even now Alaska is having a sizable ethnic Russian population?

They are probably illegal aliens that snuck into Alaska from Russia to escape the oppressive Russian government  Grin

But, seriously, there is a sizeable Russian population just north of Washington DC, and north of Miami. Doesn't mean that the territory is russian, or that those people want to go back to russia. On the contrary, the sizeable populations there are there from the time they were trying to escape USSR.


Regarding this petition, I'm wondering if maybe Alaskans think of Obama as being a repressive communiist type, and Putin as an awesome ride-a-bear-shirtless type, and think they would be better under strong manly Putin than weak communist Obama. Without realizing that Russia is a ton more oppressive than USA. If Alaska was entirely populated by Sarah Palins, I wouldn't put it past them, but since I know the people there are much smarter than that, yeah, I think this is a joke.
legendary
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hero member
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I doubt United States would give back Alaska without a World War III. The petition is a joke.

Everyone knows that the petition is a joke. The only possibility of Russian regaining Alaska is in the event of disintegration of the USA.

Putin senses the USA is growing internally weak. A significant number of "locked and loaded, take it from my cold dead hands" Americans are ready to attack the government from within, when the time comes. The "United States" corporation is losing the mandate from the governed.

The United States will probably breakup. This is not a joke. You folks need to wake up to the global economic conflagrapocalypse tsunami that is going to hit within 18 months.

http://armstrongeconomics.com/2013/12/26/224-collapsing-wave-structure-point-to-breakup-of-usa/

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This Collapsing Wave structure that the United States appears to be in means it is a one-time-wonder and that the United States will break-up and the there will be no more “united” union. This is becoming self-evidence in the polarization of politics with tremendous differences in culture on a regional basis. The Obamacare is just one aspect revealing the undercurrent whereby one segment of society believes it has a right to force their views upon another group.

Marcus-Aurelius-BustSo unfortunately, the USA does not appear to be destined to remain intact otherwise we would have seen and overall structured wave of 224 years. We seem to be in the Collapsing Wave with the 224 years was from birth to peak with an overall duration of 309.6 years at best. This appears to be like the Collapsing Wave in Imperial Rome itself whereas from the assassination of Julius Caesar in 44BC to the peak in the glory of Rome and population in the city took place under Marcus Aurelius that was 224 years later in 180AD. The decline that followed brought total chaos, sovereign debt crisis, massive government seizure of capital, fragmentation of the Empire, and in the end, Rome was no longer the Capitol and that became Constantinople followed by the split of East and West. We are much more akin to the this type of Collapsing Wave formation whereby society collapses and breaks apart. Now we have the Cycle of War turning in 2014 that appears to be focused within civil unrest at least initially.

We will be reviewing this aspect as well at the Cycle of War – Gold – Sovereign Debt Crisis Conference on March 21st in Philadelphia.


http://armstrongeconomics.com/2014/01/15/madmax-v-restructure/

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The future course of the United States will follow the same pattern. Pre-Revolution, you had separate states. That became the UNITED states in 1789. We will see a breakup of the states most likely banding together in regions because of the difference in cultural views such as the Bible Belt. The fight over Obamacare illustrates the stark differences and this is fundamentally wrong for it is forcing one groups interests upon another. There is no such thing as equal rights but money is the exception. We are all treated the same even in law (no exception for politicians and bankers) or we are not a nation of equal rights. You can’t be just a little be pregnant! The US will break up, but it should not go into a MADMAX event as long as we reach resistance from the people. If the people keep just watching their sports and never notice what the governments are doing to their future until it is too late, then it can go too far and that in the MADMAX event the ended the Roman Empire.
legendary
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Total signatures on this petition

27,785

You data is outdated - it's 28000 now Cheesy
sr. member
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Total signatures on this petition

27,785
sr. member
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Merit: 250
are the people live in alaska want join russia?

Referendum will show it Smiley

hero member
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OMG! More than 27300 votes. What's the hell? I can't believe...
legendary
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sr. member
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over 20k signature right now
are the people live in alaska want join russia?
i think they happy became a part of US now

when i was kid, i'm little bit confuse see world map
why alaska is part of US although alaska is don't have direct border with US
when i learned history, i know the answer  Grin
sr. member
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Knowledge is Power
Rofl I can't believe this petition actually has 20k+ votes. God bless mother Russia.

But I'm still upset we sold it to you yanks. In the 1800s it didn't seem very important, but now there's so much profit from the natural resources in Alaska, not to mention the beautiful nature.
legendary
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One thing I have noticed is that the ethnic Russian population in Alaska is much younger than the general population.

For example, in Delta Junction only 19.64% of the general population is Russian. But among the children, the figure is 31.10%.
legendary
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You cannot kill love
legendary
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Does any one know that even now Alaska is having a sizable ethnic Russian population?
It seems that they need a new political party, like the citizens of Crimea... So, we have to send Mr. Aksyonov to Alaska...  Cheesy

I guess that Sarah Palin could be appointed as a new Chief Prosecutor, so no additional staff needed.
Vod
legendary
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Licking my boob since 1970
If the US were to give up Alaska, they'd be giving up all their territorial/mineral rights to the thawing artic circle.

They won't be doing that.   Wink
hero member
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How do people come up with this shit?

I dunno - but I'm sure that if Alaska were to have a referendum tommorrow that had an 80% turnout it would be an unprecendented event in modern western democracy (shit, 55% is doing OK these days for US presidential elections).

 If then 95% of that 80% voted in favour of going back to Russia, for whatever reason, it would most certainly be seen to be a violation of international law and everything that we hold dear in the free world  Wink  Grin

So - Obama is legit on 50% x 55% = 27.5%

Crimea secession is an infringement of human rights with 95% x 80% = 76%  Huh
sr. member
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WE PETITION THE OBAMA ADMINISTRATION TO:
Alaska back to Russia.
Groups Siberian russians crossed the Isthmus (now the Bering Strait) 16-10 thousand years ago.

Russian began to settle on the Arctic coast, Aleuts inhabited the Aleutian Archipelago.

First visited Alaska August 21, 1732, members of the team boat "St. Gabriel »under the surveyor Gvozdev and assistant navigator I. Fedorov during the expedition Shestakov and DI Pavlutski 1729-1735 years

>politicians
>giving up natural resources for no reason

I wish you luck mate
sr. member
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Signatures needed by April 20, 2014 to reach goal of 100,000

76,015
sr. member
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Not gonna happen unless the USA is broken into states.
sr. member
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legendary
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How do people come up with this shit?
legendary
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Why leave one oppressive regime for another?
If you don't like regime then declare extended autonomy. Autonomy of federation subject could vary, extended autonomy allows you to implement a fully custom regime on your territory.  Smiley Remember the Finland as a part of Russian Empire, for example. Borders were protected by Imperial militaries but Finland used independent political system (parliamentary republic, own police and monetary system) and Emperor was nothing more than a symbolic figure here. Another similar case is Hong Kong, it's a part of China but employs independent political system too, and Chinese law doesn't work here. Smiley
legendary
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Viva Ut Vivas
Why leave one oppressive regime for another?
legendary
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Merit: 1217
I doubt United States would give back Alaska without a World War III. The petition is a joke.

Everyone knows that the petition is a joke. The only possibility of Russian regaining Alaska is in the event of disintegration of the USA.
legendary
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Merit: 1359
There would be no war III if some nuclear weapons will be places on Alaska territory.

But I doubt that Alaska needs secession now, they already have enough autonomy.
sr. member
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I doubt United States would give back Alaska without a World War III. The petition is a joke.
legendary
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Merit: 1217
The 1867 Alaska purchase is invalid. Here is the reason why:

1. Tsar Alexander II, who signed the Alaska purchase was high on crystal meth when he did so.
2. USA paid just $4.74 per sq.km to Russia, which was abysmally low.
3. USA undertook a brutal extermination campaign against the native Alaskans after they got control of the territory.
sr. member
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WE PETITION THE OBAMA ADMINISTRATION TO:
Alaska back to Russia.
Groups Siberian russians crossed the Isthmus (now the Bering Strait) 16-10 thousand years ago.

Russian began to settle on the Arctic coast, Aleuts inhabited the Aleutian Archipelago.

First visited Alaska August 21, 1732, members of the team boat "St. Gabriel »under the surveyor Gvozdev and assistant navigator I. Fedorov during the expedition Shestakov and DI Pavlutski 1729-1735 years

Vote for secession of Alaska from the United States and joining Russia

Created: Mar 21, 2014


https://petitions.whitehouse.gov/petition/alaska-back-russia/SFG1ppfN

SIGNATURES NEEDED BY APRIL 20, 2014 TO REACH GOAL OF 100,000 - 61,194
TOTAL SIGNATURES ON THIS PETITION - 38,806

Promote this Petition
https://petitions.whitehouse.gov/petition/alaska-back-russia/SFG1ppfN
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