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Quote from: becoin on March 07, 2016, 07:59:33 AM

Quote from: bitebits on March 07, 2016, 06:38:59 AM

On top of that, Segwit is not a scaling solution. Neither is the raise to 2MB blocks. Both do temporarily fix the current full blocks issue though.

There is no full block issue. There is spam issue. As soon as spam attack stops everything is perfectly normal. Increasing blocksize does nothing to solve spam issue. You can not solve spam issue by giving spammers more free space to spam!

Hmm... I don't understand you. 1MB blocks allow a really low amount of tx and btc is spreading. Of course there is a block size issue! Simply because the adoption of btc is rising and numbers of allowed tx is the staying the same!

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Quote from: becoin on March 07, 2016, 07:59:33 AM

Quote from: bitebits on March 07, 2016, 06:38:59 AM

On top of that, Segwit is not a scaling solution. Neither is the raise to 2MB blocks. Both do temporarily fix the current full blocks issue though.

There is no full block issue. There is spam issue. As soon as spam attack stops everything is perfectly normal. Increasing blocksize does nothing to solve spam issue. You can not solve spam issue by giving spammers more free space to spam!

It's only as free as the miners allow it to be. As long as people who actually pay a fee get their transfers done in a timely manner, no amount of unpaid ~~spam~~ transactions matters.

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Quote from: bitebits on March 07, 2016, 06:38:59 AM

On top of that, Segwit is not a scaling solution. Neither is the raise to 2MB blocks. Both do temporarily fix the current full blocks issue though.

There is no full block issue. There is spam issue. As soon as spam attack stops everything is perfectly normal. Increasing blocksize does nothing to solve spam issue. You can not solve spam issue by giving spammers more free space to spam!

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Quote from: lottery248 on March 07, 2016, 07:34:00 AM

Quote from: ChartBuddy on March 07, 2016, 07:00:37 AM

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seems chartbuddy isn't been updated for a long time except for thr graphical change below.
the only 3 exchange cannot inecate the main price of bitcoin.

Well, I guess. But they're pretty representative, surely? Bitfinex, Bitstamp and Coinbase account for ~3/4s of BTC/USD trades.

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Quote from: ChartBuddy on March 07, 2016, 07:00:37 AM

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seems chartbuddy isn't been updated for a long time except for thr graphical change below.
the only 3 exchange cannot inecate the main price of bitcoin.

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Quote from: AlexGR on March 07, 2016, 06:49:26 AM

Quote from: Ibian on March 07, 2016, 06:33:07 AM

Quote from: AlexGR on March 07, 2016, 06:26:17 AM

Quote from: adamstgBit on March 06, 2016, 08:35:39 PM

http://gavinandresen.ninja/satoshi-roundtable-thoughts

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Over the last year of trying, and failing, to reach a reasonable compromise, it has become clear to me that some developers don’t want any on-chain scaling solution any time soon.

That's so blatant, as a lie, it's not even funny. Andersen's credibility tends to zero. Core's roadmap has a Segwit rollout in a few months, increasing tx/s and effective block size by ~70%. How can he pretend like there is absolutely nothing?

He said some devs, as in individuals. And it is completely reasonable. There will always be people trying to hold things back in any large enough organization.

Who cares about "some devs" when Core has an official roadmap with segwit up ahead. The criticism, if you look at the expanded paragraph, is aimed directly at core for supporting things like LN instead of ever-ending block increases, all the while pretending they offer zero on-scaling solutions.

The point is that the guy you just called a liar is correct. It's about you.

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Quote from: Ibian on March 07, 2016, 06:33:07 AM

Quote from: AlexGR on March 07, 2016, 06:26:17 AM

Quote from: adamstgBit on March 06, 2016, 08:35:39 PM

http://gavinandresen.ninja/satoshi-roundtable-thoughts

He writes at one point:

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Over the last year of trying, and failing, to reach a reasonable compromise, it has become clear to me that some developers don’t want any on-chain scaling solution any time soon.

That's so blatant, as a lie, it's not even funny. Andersen's credibility tends to zero. Core's roadmap has a Segwit rollout in a few months, increasing tx/s and effective block size by ~70%. How can he pretend like there is absolutely nothing?

He said some devs, as in individuals. And it is completely reasonable. There will always be people trying to hold things back in any large enough organization.

Who cares about "some devs" when Core has an official roadmap with segwit up ahead. The criticism, if you look at the expanded paragraph, is aimed directly at core for supporting things like LN instead of ever-ending block increases, all the while pretending they offer zero on-scaling solutions.

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Quote from: bitebits on March 07, 2016, 06:38:59 AM

Quote from: Ibian on March 07, 2016, 06:33:07 AM

Quote from: AlexGR on March 07, 2016, 06:26:17 AM

Quote from: adamstgBit on March 06, 2016, 08:35:39 PM

http://gavinandresen.ninja/satoshi-roundtable-thoughts

He writes at one point:

Quote

Over the last year of trying, and failing, to reach a reasonable compromise, it has become clear to me that some developers don’t want any on-chain scaling solution any time soon.

That's so blatant, as a lie, it's not even funny. Andersen's credibility tends to zero. Core's roadmap has a Segwit rollout in a few months, increasing tx/s and effective block size by ~70%. How can he pretend like there is absolutely nothing?

He said some devs, as in individuals. And it is completely reasonable. There will always be people trying to hold things back in any large enough organization.

On top of that, Segwit is not a scaling solution. Neither is the raise to 2MB blocks. Both do temporarily fix the current full blocks issue though.

also SW brings more size just as a sideeffect, other advantages are dominating. especially some work that is done for LN.

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Quote from: Ibian on March 07, 2016, 06:33:07 AM

Quote from: AlexGR on March 07, 2016, 06:26:17 AM

Quote from: adamstgBit on March 06, 2016, 08:35:39 PM

http://gavinandresen.ninja/satoshi-roundtable-thoughts

He writes at one point:

Quote

Over the last year of trying, and failing, to reach a reasonable compromise, it has become clear to me that some developers don’t want any on-chain scaling solution any time soon.

That's so blatant, as a lie, it's not even funny. Andersen's credibility tends to zero. Core's roadmap has a Segwit rollout in a few months, increasing tx/s and effective block size by ~70%. How can he pretend like there is absolutely nothing?

He said some devs, as in individuals. And it is completely reasonable. There will always be people trying to hold things back in any large enough organization.

On top of that, Segwit is not a scaling solution. Neither is the raise to 2MB blocks. Both do temporarily fix the current full blocks issue though.

Ibian

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Quote from: AlexGR on March 07, 2016, 06:26:17 AM

Quote from: adamstgBit on March 06, 2016, 08:35:39 PM

http://gavinandresen.ninja/satoshi-roundtable-thoughts

He writes at one point:

Quote

Over the last year of trying, and failing, to reach a reasonable compromise, it has become clear to me that some developers don’t want any on-chain scaling solution any time soon.

That's so blatant, as a lie, it's not even funny. Andersen's credibility tends to zero. Core's roadmap has a Segwit rollout in a few months, increasing tx/s and effective block size by ~70%. How can he pretend like there is absolutely nothing?

He said some devs, as in individuals. And it is completely reasonable. There will always be people trying to hold things back in any large enough organization.

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Quote from: valta4065 on March 07, 2016, 06:08:50 AM

Quote from: marcus_of_augustus on March 07, 2016, 06:06:54 AM

china's gonna light yer ass up

My sells weren't done, coins in transfer to the exchange plateform...

But I'm maybe going to wait a bit in case you're right Tongue

Ah! last time I had problems with txs times it was because of Primedice, couldn't withdraw 2 btc I put here.

It took 7 days. They gave me 5% to apologize. Meanwhile the price was up to 450 whereas I wanted to sell at 300 ^^

Sometimes waiting is good. And with btc it's rather often.

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Quote from: adamstgBit on March 06, 2016, 08:35:39 PM

http://gavinandresen.ninja/satoshi-roundtable-thoughts

He writes at one point:

Quote

Over the last year of trying, and failing, to reach a reasonable compromise, it has become clear to me that some developers don’t want any on-chain scaling solution any time soon.

That's so blatant, as a lie, it's not even funny. Andersen's credibility tends to zero. Core's roadmap has a Segwit rollout in a few months, increasing tx/s and effective block size by ~70%. How can he pretend like there is absolutely nothing?

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