Topic: Wallet that allows Multiple Mnemonics (Read 342 times)

Before reading this, I had the impression that you were trying to import a mnemonic phrase for each type of cryptocurrency.

To be honest, no, there isn't any wallet software that lets you import many mnemonic phrases at once, at least not any that I know of.

(I have software that can generate multiple mnemonics at once, and I'm working on code to fetch the balances/transactions of each of the addresses that is not yet finished, but it's a Python library, not a GUI.)

You won't get any better answers than the ones provided here without explicitly explaining the actual "purpose" of what you need because in special cases like this question here the purpose significantly changes the approach. For example in puzzle solving and brute forcing cases like the ones your post history indicates you are interested in, none of the above answers can work. There needs to be a specialized software written specifically for deriving keys and checking against a predefined local database.

I was hoping to see people actually answer the question. Nope everyone offers their unsolicited advice as opposed to answering the f****** question. grrrrrr

Depending on the number of seeds you have, which I suppose are more than a couple hundreds, this can take a really long time to complete. I mean, a single seed phrase with 20 receiving and change addresses (each) takes about 10 seconds to load on my Raspberry Pi. Ten seeds would take about a minute and a half. A hundred would take a couple of hours. Thousands would might take days, again depending on the CPU that is used for running a full node.

There are quite a lot of Python programmers in this place. I believe you can pay someone to code it for you.

Guys, OP clearly stated that he looks for software wallet - "multiple crypto wallet apps on windows linux". All above suggestions steer him to hardware wallets which are not of hiis interest.

To my best knowledge, the only software wallet compliant with BIP 85 and, as such , capable to create multiple mnemonics and recover them from master SEED is AirGap Vault.

Sure,AirGap Vault is not for Widows or Linux, but for Android. Nevertheless,  the latter has a Linux kernel under the hood, so it might catch OP's attention.

Yes, check out Cypherock X1.

Secure multiple seed phrases - https://cypherock.com/wallet-backup

View balances of all wallets in one place - https://cypherock.com/portfolio-management

I don't think there is a direct relation between a powerful PC and a 'powerful private key'. As long as they use enough entropy to generate the seed, it should be more than enough for your daily purpose. You can go all the way with generating all randomization sources manually though, like what has been discussed there[1]. Do correct me if I'm wrong though, but I'm pretty sure nobody has ever told me to buy a high-end PC to create my wallet.

[1] https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/seed-generation-in-hardware-wallets-5317199

The main function of wallets is just to sign a public key. The wallet hasn't created any seed, so if you were still curious about how the wallet works, you must try https://www.bitaddress.org/ with that site you can learn and understand how the wallet creates the seed. Because of that I always recommend people create wallets offline which high spec PC (same as mining) to create a more powerful private key of course.

Wallets don't "reserve" seed phrases: you can have different wallets installed on multiple platforms and they all can use the same secret without any restrictions while managing all interactions with the blockchain. Naturally, for this setup to work properly, all these wallets need to belong to a single person since secrets aren't meant to be shared with other people. As for wallets supporting several seed phrases at the same time, it is definitely possible to create such a program. It would require making just a small change in existing codebase, but developers don't strive to change the design of their wallets because users don't actually ask for it: a single seed phrase is enough for most use cases because it can support hundreds of cryptocurrencies.

You can use a 'watching-only' 'blank' 'descriptor' Bitcoin Core wallet to do this.
You'll just have to import all of those mnemonic seed's derived extended public keys as descriptors.

To do that, follow this guide learn how to create descriptors from the extended public keys and import each descriptor to Bitcoin Core.
Link: https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.60178631

The guide is specific to import Electrum master public key(s) (account extended public key) to Bitcoin Core.
If you can't find a way to export each mnemonic seed's extended public key, import them to an offline Electrum (link) first to get each's master public key, one at a time.
Or use iancoleman's BIP39 tool (link), select the correct derivation path and get the "Account Extended Public Key" to be compatible with the guide.

The good thing with this is, you can import as much descriptors your hardware can handle compared to online APIs or SPV wallets with a quite low limit.
The limitation is obviously, it's Bitcoin-only and will require a lot of internet bandwidth and storage space. (pruning isn't recommended for your use-case)

I don't know if I'm just confused in my understanding of what you're saying here or I just don't understand what you're saying because it seems like a mess.

Do you mean a wallet that will produce a lot of seed phrases? Because if this is what you mean dude, I have never seen a platform like this that does what you say. Because of the understanding and what I have experienced, each wallet has its seed phrase reserved, one wallet can't have many seed phases.

You are not an exchange, and even they don't have 100 private keys and seed words.
They all use just a few keys and they can generate infinite number of address for their customers...this is obviously much safer.
You can try to be smart doing different thing but I bet you would soon mess sup something managing 100 backups and keys.

You obviously don't know much about security, since you are using closed source safepal app, and you didn't explain what exactly you want to achieve.
If you already have Trezor just use their own app that is 100 times better, safer and it's open source.

Since I consider tracking multiple mnemonics within a single entity a very insecure approach to interacting with cryptocurrencies, I wouldn't recommend anything besides importing several extended public keys into something like above application. You can also try something like https://github.com/bwt-dev/bwt because "it uses bitcoind to keep track of your wallet addresses (derived from your xpub(s)) and builds an index of their history that can be queried using the Electrum RPC protocol or using bwt's custom designed HTTP API." Also try https://vezgo.com/ but I don't know how reliable they are since I never used their API. But they claim that "building crypto wallet trackers has never been easier, thanks to Vezgo. Vezgo is an API provider that gives you just one API for all tracking all crypto wallets, including Trust Wallet, Ledger xPub, Trezor, and so many more." Please note that I found all these projects just by asking Google, which means I can't really recommend any of them. The only reason I consider them kinda safe is because they don't ask for private information, just your xpubs.

No, lets say I am managing 100 peoples crypto wallets... if that makes people understand better. I would what a place where I can easily view the wallets, transact, swap , etc .. obviously i don't expect to swap and transact all wallets from one screen but at least view all balances.

First photo is safepals app after you click the side panel to pop out. You see it gives the balances of all wallets imported? Second photo is Coinomi on desktop, it shows all wallet names but doesn't give a live or updated view of balances unless I click each individual wallet.

@witcher_sens you are the only one on the right track, I'm setting up the coinwatchpush, is there any other projects you recommend after reading this post? Thanks bud

@dkbit98 it is the best for my situation and I'm obviously looking for more options since I'm asking for help. I don't even have a safepal hardware wallet, I'm literally only using it for this function. I know my security, we use trezor shamir backups but this is beside the point.

Security aside, this is all for tests and research, no wallet is going to have more than $100 at any given time. https://ibb.co/bNf5bW5  https://ibb.co/BKjQYsV

No it's not the best app at all.
Safepal app is closed source junk and I wouldn't use it or recommend it to anyone, same as they hardware wallet device.

I don't see a single good reason why you would do something like this, and I only see security risks.
Nobody in the right mind is going to follow many addresses for bunch of coins from multiple seed phrases, but you can just track address balance, that is simple solution.
If you want to import multiple phrases you can just use multiple wallets, safest thing would be using multiple hardware wallets.

Is your problem in the wallet or in tracking the balance of the wallet? If your problem is in tracking the balance or showing all your addresses in one place, there are many ways that enable you to do so using either the wallet address, master public key.

https://www.cointracker.io/wallet/bitcoin
https://www.blockonomics.co/

But if you want to collect all the seeds together, you risk losing all your money at once, always remember not to put all your eggs in one basket.
You can do this using password manager applications.

There are some wallets supporting deterministic mnemonics derivation from a root mnemonic, but they always track only one mnemonic. For example, with the ColdCard hardware wallet, you can have up to 10000 mnemonics, each of which can be recreated with a root seed and a special index. All technical information can be found in the corresponding BIP: https://github.com/bitcoin/bips/blob/master/bip-0085.mediawiki

As far as I know, there are no wallets supporting exporting multiple mnemonics or master private keys because doing so makes little sense both from a UI design perspective and a security perspective. One seed phrase is capable of creating private keys and addresses for almost any blockchain, coin, and token, which means any wallet can support almost everything out of the box with a single secret. It also doesn't make sense from a security perspective because a compromised wallet would lead to all seed phrases being compromised.

There are some tools allowing tracking multiple xpubs at once, and that's enough for most use cases. As an example: https://github.com/jonasschnelli/corewatchpush

Your question is that you have different seed phrase, you want to import the seed phrases on a single wallet app and you want to see the wallets balance at once without checking the balance one by one per each seed phrase? Why did you want to do that when you created different seed phrase? To know your wallet balance per each seed phrase, just import the seed phrase one by one.

Isn't that already possible with the Ledger Live App? Although it doesn't allow you to import multiple mnemonic recovery seed phrases, it does allow you to connect multiple assets on Ledger Live at once and view all your assets on the dashboard under the "Accounts" tab. Plus, Ledger supports many external wallets^[1] that enable you to check and manage your assets using Ledger Live. You just need to follow Ledger's instruction for you to be able to integrate/connect it.

[1] https://www.ledger.com/ledger-wallets-and-services

Edit: Upon checking Exodus is not supported by Ledger. You can try using Trezor instead. - https://trezor.io/learn/a/exodus-and-trezor

I honestly find it frustrating that I cannot find a solution to this. Google/any search engine literally gives results like "how to create your eth wallet" when I ask this. (and I've tried multiple searches)

I need a wallet that I can input multiple mnemonic phrases and/or recovery keys and see all balances at once in a single app. Hopefully for all major coins like btc, eth, ltc atom .. etc but I cannot find a single wallet that offers this. All the mainstream wallets like exodus/atomic only allow for one mnemonic import then you can only sweep private keys into your wallet (like exodus) and even metamask only allows one mnemonic per google profile, after that its only private keys. I don't care if its some sort of api based system or a cli in linux I would prefer that actually but at this point (a cli) I'm so lost. If anyone uses the safepal app on android/iphone its honestly the best you can use it for mnemonic imports its not only a cold storage app, and when you load up the app all your balances refresh. The closest thing I found was Coinomi but the only bummer about this app on windows or linux is that you have to click each wallet to view the balances it doesn't show like a dashboard with all balances.

Am I the only one with this issue???

Has anyone found a wallet that allows multiple mnemonic recovery phrases to be inputted and view all balances at the same time?

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