Topic: WanChain; Stellar; Cardano -- Undervalued coins with potential to 100x in 2018 (Read 266 times)
March 25, 2018, 08:04:18 AM
yes, i agree with that these three coins have a great potential and all of them will skyrocket while the market turn good, but wanchain is newly listed on binance, i think it must have a deep drop and until then its time to buy
March 25, 2018, 07:32:21 AM
Right now WanChain is expensive and will go down below $2 and that's a good entry point. To high marketcap at the moment to make it interesting for me.
March 25, 2018, 07:02:10 AM
Yes, I agree with you buying missed ICO trains at occassional dips, although I tend to be super-cautions by doing so as we are literally flooded with ICOs desperately wanting our BTC/Fiat. That stands for cumulating dipping Wanchain too... Along with Bluzelle, Gonetwork, Polymath or whatever looks viable and rational to invest in right now with a fair chance for future application.
March 25, 2018, 06:54:35 AM
You realize you've just named project being actually massively overpriced after exchange listing (Wan) along with the project w/o finished real product (ADA), don't you
Since when is Cardano a project without a finished real product? Guess you are one of those ppl who easily buy into FOMO and mindless “scam” accusations online w/o caring to do your own research and look at the actual team behind it and what they are actually doing. Cardano mainnet was already up a long while ago, well before EOS plus their implementations are peer reviewed to work and are as secure as they claim it is. They have a product, and they are progressively adding functionality layers on top of it. There is already one ICO, Traxis, that is being ran in partnership with Cardano, and reports of more partnerships to come with the business sector in HK and other economies where they are are actively targeting.
And no, I do not believe WAN chain is overpriced, even if its price may fall in the short term future. It all depends on perspective. I am not a short term gambling speculator. I see long term prospect for WAN and it is definately worth a lot more than what it currently is right now even with the post ICO pump from my POV as an investor. I have also only injected a little and have already said that I will only progressively inject more as the price falls, if people borthers to read carefully first before jumping to criticise an opinion.
Ad ADA: simply not enough to justify its overvalued rank/mcap leaving so many well established, more useful-known-popular coins (Xmr, Ltc, Neo, Dash to name a few) behind or around the same capitalization level. Never stated anywhere ADA to be a shitcoin just dared to mention it has some overprice symptoms, being pumped multiple times during Fall and Winter '17. Basically no one really uses ADA so far (for a high-ranked coin), the real application is too empty for a #7 coin to continue growing, sry. Btw, ain't FOMO'er but in fact small ADA hodler. I have even bought ADA very first day being traded on Bittrex as I have liked the team/project from the first moment even when hated here at Bctalk, although I sold that amount later on (with big % profit), so perhaps I have longer exp. with ADA than you man.
WAN may be a strong ICO but how many strong-momentum ICOs did we have in the last couple of months? With the fact WAN is now traded for roughly x10 ICO value, I dare to say it is very overpriced now, especially if you look on the whole marketcap situation and endless flood of ICOs rolling on us every week.
Never said these are bad long-term decisions but neither is underpriced now and I'd rather put the money into OMG, GAS or ICX now as the ones that did suffer badly during last couple of bloodbaths. Not mentioning that Waves are so much down for a heck of the time.
March 25, 2018, 06:49:49 AM
You are assuming here too, first off none of those 3 are undervalued, all over valued if anything, including wanchain, none will do 100x in a year I would bet money on this.
The whole reason people trade is to increase BTC in order to increase real life fiat value, to get in/out of crypto back to fiat you either use BTC or in smaller cases ETH, so the main security here for traders is to ensure they don't lose BTC value, it's why all alts are tied to the movements of BTC, if we have a stable BTC price people will be confident enough to go for alts, if BTC is dipping or climbing up people take the secure option and hold their BTC instead, it's always been this way and won't change over night if at all.
If you can't understand that side of crypto you'll struggle to profit.
The whole reason people trade is to increase BTC in order to increase real life fiat value, to get in/out of crypto back to fiat you either use BTC or in smaller cases ETH, so the main security here for traders is to ensure they don't lose BTC value, it's why all alts are tied to the movements of BTC, if we have a stable BTC price people will be confident enough to go for alts, if BTC is dipping or climbing up people take the secure option and hold their BTC instead, it's always been this way and won't change over night if at all.
If you can't understand that side of crypto you'll struggle to profit.
I have already said that I am speculating here, base on a set of assumptions. So of course I am assuming here too; never claimed that I wasnt. And no, I did not claim that the correlation to BTC price will just stop overnight. What I had actually said was that this correlation appears to be gradually weakening, and if not towards the end of 2018, two or three years to me seems like a reasonable length of time for BTC dominance to sufficiently waiver as more investors starts looking into altcoin, realizing that BTC and ETH isnt all that is within the crypto sphere.
March 25, 2018, 06:36:45 AM
You realize you've just named project being actually massively overpriced after exchange listing (Wan) along with the project w/o finished real product (ADA), don't you
Since when is Cardano a project without a finished real product? Guess you are one of those ppl who easily buy into FOMO and mindless “scam” accusations online w/o caring to do your own research and look at the actual team behind it and what they are actually doing. Cardano mainnet was already up a long while ago, well before EOS plus their implementations are peer reviewed to work and are as secure as they claim it is. They have a product, and they are progressively adding functionality layers on top of it. There is already one ICO, Traxis, that is being ran in partnership with Cardano, and reports of more partnerships to come with the business sector in HK and other economies where they are are actively targeting.
And no, I do not believe WAN chain is overpriced, even if its price may fall in the short term future. It all depends on perspective. I am not a short term gambling speculator. I see long term prospect for WAN and it is definately worth a lot more than what it currently is right now even with the post ICO pump from my POV as an investor. I have also only injected a little and have already said that I will only progressively inject more as the price falls, if people borthers to read carefully first before jumping to criticise an opinion.
March 25, 2018, 06:14:16 AM
I want to buy a WanChain, but a little later, when the price falls. Very promising coin.
March 25, 2018, 05:44:23 AM
You realize you've just named project being actually massively overpriced after exchange listing (Wan) along with the project w/o finished real product (ADA), don't you
March 25, 2018, 05:38:36 AM
Most of you appeared to have assumed
1) That every single alt-coins would continue to be tied to BTC's price movement forever simply because it have been largely the case until now. However, there is a very likely chance that the market share of BTC and ETH will fall, as the currently lesser known cryptos starts to get increased attention. There are already signs of this happening for selected none shitty altcoins.
2) That this stagnant market will continue throughout 2018, however I am speculating that a bull run will return towards Christmas.
There is now an increasing awareness of cryptos throughout the world, and more and more smaller countries are now only just entering (and these new investors will be pretty prone towards FOMO, once the market really starts picking up again). Think of the massive population in Indonesia, India, Thailand, Philipines, Malaysia, where the people do not trust their corrupt government and the handling of their own respective currencies as much.
Where currently where it stands, only a very small % of people in the world have invested in cryptos (and mostly just BTC and maybe ETH, and that is about it -- thinking that all altcoins are "scams", etc. or just couldn't be bothered) -- Still lossa room to grow.
Funds from cashing out of shitcoins that dies off during the bear market has to go somewhere too.
The mainstream media fuds against cryptos could also gradually fade in time, as the real-world value of these selected coins starts to show.
Bottomline is that I may be right, or wrong for the matter. Maybe end of 2018 is too optimistic, perhaps 2019 or even 2020 is more realistic? And of course the cited 100x is an unrealistic hyperbole exaggeration to emphasize the optimism that I have of these coins, but the point remains the same. All that doesn’t matter. I am merely speculating here like everyone one else, given the above reasons - and do watch that video shared before commenting about the crypto projects highlighted here.
1) That every single alt-coins would continue to be tied to BTC's price movement forever simply because it have been largely the case until now. However, there is a very likely chance that the market share of BTC and ETH will fall, as the currently lesser known cryptos starts to get increased attention. There are already signs of this happening for selected none shitty altcoins.
2) That this stagnant market will continue throughout 2018, however I am speculating that a bull run will return towards Christmas.
There is now an increasing awareness of cryptos throughout the world, and more and more smaller countries are now only just entering (and these new investors will be pretty prone towards FOMO, once the market really starts picking up again). Think of the massive population in Indonesia, India, Thailand, Philipines, Malaysia, where the people do not trust their corrupt government and the handling of their own respective currencies as much.
Where currently where it stands, only a very small % of people in the world have invested in cryptos (and mostly just BTC and maybe ETH, and that is about it -- thinking that all altcoins are "scams", etc. or just couldn't be bothered) -- Still lossa room to grow.
Funds from cashing out of shitcoins that dies off during the bear market has to go somewhere too.
The mainstream media fuds against cryptos could also gradually fade in time, as the real-world value of these selected coins starts to show.
Bottomline is that I may be right, or wrong for the matter. Maybe end of 2018 is too optimistic, perhaps 2019 or even 2020 is more realistic? And of course the cited 100x is an unrealistic hyperbole exaggeration to emphasize the optimism that I have of these coins, but the point remains the same. All that doesn’t matter. I am merely speculating here like everyone one else, given the above reasons - and do watch that video shared before commenting about the crypto projects highlighted here.
You are assuming here too, first off none of those 3 are undervalued, all over valued if anything, including wanchain, none will do 100x in a year I would bet money on this.
The whole reason people trade is to increase BTC in order to increase real life fiat value, to get in/out of crypto back to fiat you either use BTC or in smaller cases ETH, so the main security here for traders is to ensure they don't lose BTC value, it's why all alts are tied to the movements of BTC, if we have a stable BTC price people will be confident enough to go for alts, if BTC is dipping or climbing up people take the secure option and hold their BTC instead, it's always been this way and won't change over night if at all.
If you can't understand that side of crypto you'll struggle to profit.
March 25, 2018, 05:29:02 AM
Most of you appeared to have assumed
1) That every single alt-coins would continue to be tied to BTC's price movement forever simply because it have been largely the case until now. However, there is a very likely chance that the market share of BTC and ETH will fall, as the currently lesser known cryptos starts to get increased attention. There are already signs of this happening for selected none shitty altcoins.
2) That this stagnant market will continue throughout 2018, however I am speculating that a bull run will return towards Christmas.
There is now an increasing awareness of cryptos throughout the world, and more and more smaller countries are now only just entering (and these new investors will be pretty prone towards FOMO, once the market really starts picking up again). Think of the massive population in Indonesia, India, Thailand, Philipines, Malaysia, where the people do not trust their corrupt government and the handling of their own respective currencies as much.
Where currently where it stands, only a very small % of people in the world have invested in cryptos (and mostly just BTC and maybe ETH, and that is about it -- thinking that all altcoins are "scams", etc. or just couldn't be bothered) -- Still lossa room to grow.
Funds from cashing out of shitcoins that dies off during the bear market has to go somewhere too.
The mainstream media fuds against cryptos could also gradually fade in time, as the real-world value of these selected coins starts to show.
Bottomline is that I may be right, or wrong for the matter. Maybe end of 2018 is too optimistic, perhaps 2019 or even 2020 is more realistic? And of course the cited 100x is an unrealistic hyperbole exaggeration to emphasize the optimism that I have of these coins, but the point remains the same. All that doesn’t matter. I am merely speculating here like everyone one else, given the above reasons - and do watch that video shared before commenting about the crypto projects highlighted here.
1) That every single alt-coins would continue to be tied to BTC's price movement forever simply because it have been largely the case until now. However, there is a very likely chance that the market share of BTC and ETH will fall, as the currently lesser known cryptos starts to get increased attention. There are already signs of this happening for selected none shitty altcoins.
2) That this stagnant market will continue throughout 2018, however I am speculating that a bull run will return towards Christmas.
There is now an increasing awareness of cryptos throughout the world, and more and more smaller countries are now only just entering (and these new investors will be pretty prone towards FOMO, once the market really starts picking up again). Think of the massive population in Indonesia, India, Thailand, Philipines, Malaysia, where the people do not trust their corrupt government and the handling of their own respective currencies as much.
Where currently where it stands, only a very small % of people in the world have invested in cryptos (and mostly just BTC and maybe ETH, and that is about it -- thinking that all altcoins are "scams", etc. or just couldn't be bothered) -- Still lossa room to grow.
Funds from cashing out of shitcoins that dies off during the bear market has to go somewhere too.
The mainstream media fuds against cryptos could also gradually fade in time, as the real-world value of these selected coins starts to show.
Bottomline is that I may be right, or wrong for the matter. Maybe end of 2018 is too optimistic, perhaps 2019 or even 2020 is more realistic? And of course the cited 100x is an unrealistic hyperbole exaggeration to emphasize the optimism that I have of these coins, but the point remains the same. All that doesn’t matter. I am merely speculating here like everyone one else, given the above reasons - and do watch that video shared before commenting about the crypto projects highlighted here.
March 24, 2018, 04:45:08 PM
There is no reason to say that at least some crypto currency will recover after a long correction, and even more will do x100. Positive news that promotes growth, now have almost every crypto currency, but the price of each practically stands still.
March 24, 2018, 04:36:52 PM
Yep, these projects are overvalued in my opinion. No way any of them will make 100x in 2018, Cardano is already top 7 coin, lol.
Yes, I want Cardano as x100 but impossible. I wait it's price near $2-2.5 in the best choice. If you need x100 coin there is not in this list March 24, 2018, 04:08:05 PM
well a 100x for stellar or cardano it seems quite optimistic to me, they are really good coins with strong partnerships but a 100x would be an huge market cap for them and i think it's very hard to reach, i already said that for ripple when it was at 0.20 and the market did the opposite in the run of december so i'm not the most accurate opinionist.
March 24, 2018, 03:20:40 PM
Yep, these projects are overvalued in my opinion. No way any of them will make 100x in 2018, Cardano is already top 7 coin, lol.
March 24, 2018, 03:13:47 PM
None of these projects are undervalued lol. You don't sound like you are very educated about crypto. Anyways, these projects are good for long term hold tho.
March 24, 2018, 02:49:34 PM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3LAZndSjAqA
WanChain -- no need for me to elaborate.
Stellar's partnership with IBM to support central banks and big financial institutes.
Cardano partnership with Sirin Lab
Binance to offer direct fiat entry + developing its own blockchain -- but IMO, a bit overvalued already (with the news already priced in), so I'm gonna wait for that to hopefully drop before I buy any more than I already had.
Watch the video here: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3LAZndSjAqA
I don't think stellar and cardano are undervalued projects. Most of the returns are already been made but it doesn't mean it will raise further. X100 from here is a joke. Just check the marketcap, it will give you some unimaginable numbers. That too achieving that ridicules marketcap in 2018 is a myth. WanChain -- no need for me to elaborate.
Stellar's partnership with IBM to support central banks and big financial institutes.
Cardano partnership with Sirin Lab
Binance to offer direct fiat entry + developing its own blockchain -- but IMO, a bit overvalued already (with the news already priced in), so I'm gonna wait for that to hopefully drop before I buy any more than I already had.
Watch the video here: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3LAZndSjAqA
March 24, 2018, 02:38:46 PM
I never heard of wanchain before, never imagined their market cap would be 1 bn 
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Stellar will not go 100x, it had already a very huge rise in 2017. Cardano is quite interesting and can go up, but 100x is way too optimistic.
2017 was a fantastic year for crypto, I don't think we will see some new ATH in 2018 for most of the coins and for the moment 2018 is the year of the volatility (not only for crypto, but also for stocks).
. Stellar will not go 100x, it had already a very huge rise in 2017. Cardano is quite interesting and can go up, but 100x is way too optimistic.
2017 was a fantastic year for crypto, I don't think we will see some new ATH in 2018 for most of the coins and for the moment 2018 is the year of the volatility (not only for crypto, but also for stocks).
March 24, 2018, 02:29:44 PM
I don't think any will go 100x in 2018. Wanchain is by far the smallest but still has a market cap of near 1bn. They would all be ahead or close to BTC marketcap and that doesn't seem feasible in this year. I'm of the belief that most coins over 1bn market cap are already greatly overvalued.
March 24, 2018, 02:08:06 PM
A coin being questionable or not is your own opinion. And I have no idea which one you are referring to here, but at any rate, rather than waste my time I will leave it to readers who can be bothered to watch the video that was shared, where the details were laid out, before commenting.
and since when 4Bil x100 = a trillion MCAP?
and since when 4Bil x100 = a trillion MCAP?
March 24, 2018, 11:04:35 AM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3LAZndSjAqA
WanChain -- no need for me to elaborate.
Stellar's partnership with IBM to support central banks and big financial institutes.
Cardano partnership with Sirin Lab
Binance to offer direct fiat entry + developing its own blockchain -- but IMO, a bit overvalued already (with the news already priced in), so I'm gonna wait for that to hopefully drop before I buy any more than I already had.
Watch the video here: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3LAZndSjAqA
WanChain -- no need for me to elaborate.
Stellar's partnership with IBM to support central banks and big financial institutes.
Cardano partnership with Sirin Lab
Binance to offer direct fiat entry + developing its own blockchain -- but IMO, a bit overvalued already (with the news already priced in), so I'm gonna wait for that to hopefully drop before I buy any more than I already had.
Watch the video here: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3LAZndSjAqA
I see what you did there.
You mention two somewhat 'established' platforms (in terms of marketing) and then include a questionable one up there. I'll leave the readers to decide which is which. Lol.
And Stellar, Cardano to go 100x or more...? Are they going for a trillion market cap? Rofl.
March 24, 2018, 10:16:51 AM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3LAZndSjAqA
WanChain -- no need for me to elaborate.
Stellar's partnership with IBM to support central banks and big financial institutes.
Cardano partnership with Sirin Lab
Binance to offer direct fiat entry + developing its own blockchain -- but IMO, a bit overvalued already (with the news already priced in), so I'm gonna wait for that to hopefully drop before I buy any more than I already had.
Watch the video here: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3LAZndSjAqA
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[Update] Follow up post:
Most of you appeared to have assumed
1) That every single alt-coins would continue to be tied to BTC's price movement forever simply because it have been largely the case until now. However, there is a very likely chance that the market share of BTC and ETH will fall, as the currently lesser known cryptos starts to get increased attention. There are already signs of this happening for selected none shitty altcoins.
2) That this stagnant market will continue throughout 2018, however I am speculating that a bull run will return towards Christmas.
There is now an increasing awareness of cryptos throughout the world, and more and more smaller countries are now only just entering (and these new investors will be pretty prone towards FOMO, once the market really starts picking up again). Think of the massive population in Indonesia, India, Thailand, Philipines, Malaysia, where the people do not trust their corrupt government and the handling of their own respective currencies as much.
Where currently where it stands, only a very small % of people in the world have invested in cryptos (and mostly just BTC and maybe ETH, and that is about it -- thinking that all altcoins are "scams", etc. or just couldn't be bothered) -- Still lossa room to grow.
Funds from cashing out of shitcoins that dies off during the bear market has to go somewhere too.
The mainstream media fuds against cryptos could also gradually fade in time, as the real-world value of these selected coins starts to show.
Bottomline is that I may be right, or wrong for the matter. Maybe end of 2018 is too optimistic, perhaps 2019 or even 2020 is more realistic? And of course the cited 100x is an unrealistic hyperbole exaggeration to emphasize the optimism that I have of these coins, but the point remains the same. All that doesn’t matter. I am merely speculating here like everyone one else, given the above reasons - and do watch that video shared before commenting about the crypto projects highlighted here.
WanChain -- no need for me to elaborate.
Stellar's partnership with IBM to support central banks and big financial institutes.
Cardano partnership with Sirin Lab
Binance to offer direct fiat entry + developing its own blockchain -- but IMO, a bit overvalued already (with the news already priced in), so I'm gonna wait for that to hopefully drop before I buy any more than I already had.
Watch the video here: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3LAZndSjAqA
===
[Update] Follow up post:
Most of you appeared to have assumed
1) That every single alt-coins would continue to be tied to BTC's price movement forever simply because it have been largely the case until now. However, there is a very likely chance that the market share of BTC and ETH will fall, as the currently lesser known cryptos starts to get increased attention. There are already signs of this happening for selected none shitty altcoins.
2) That this stagnant market will continue throughout 2018, however I am speculating that a bull run will return towards Christmas.
There is now an increasing awareness of cryptos throughout the world, and more and more smaller countries are now only just entering (and these new investors will be pretty prone towards FOMO, once the market really starts picking up again). Think of the massive population in Indonesia, India, Thailand, Philipines, Malaysia, where the people do not trust their corrupt government and the handling of their own respective currencies as much.
Where currently where it stands, only a very small % of people in the world have invested in cryptos (and mostly just BTC and maybe ETH, and that is about it -- thinking that all altcoins are "scams", etc. or just couldn't be bothered) -- Still lossa room to grow.
Funds from cashing out of shitcoins that dies off during the bear market has to go somewhere too.
The mainstream media fuds against cryptos could also gradually fade in time, as the real-world value of these selected coins starts to show.
Bottomline is that I may be right, or wrong for the matter. Maybe end of 2018 is too optimistic, perhaps 2019 or even 2020 is more realistic? And of course the cited 100x is an unrealistic hyperbole exaggeration to emphasize the optimism that I have of these coins, but the point remains the same. All that doesn’t matter. I am merely speculating here like everyone one else, given the above reasons - and do watch that video shared before commenting about the crypto projects highlighted here.
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