War and Violence as an answer to economic terrorism

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Quote from: mildmanneredsuffering on April 11, 2022, 08:57:18 PM

self defense of the economic whole?

Self defense of the economy is different from self defense of an imminent threat. An imminent threat you have the innate right of defending yourself. Economic terrorism probably isn't an imminent threat if you're referring to economic hardship. Literal terrorism is another discussion.

Imperialism is self defense of the economy. Invading a foreign country for oil is self defense of the economy. None of these are justifiable.

Quote from: franky1 on April 11, 2022, 09:44:45 PM

at the point of oil reserves getting low causing the US to invade the middle east many times in the last 40 years

This is taking self defense too literally but to some American politicians I'm sure this falls under self defense of the economy. Self defense at the expense of others.

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Quote from: mildmanneredsuffering on April 11, 2022, 08:57:18 PM

At what point is ok or even necessary to declare war and enforce physical violence on a nation or group in self defense of the economic whole?

what do you mean with economic terrorism?

do you want to force westerners to trade with terrorist nations so they can arm themselves up or supply their elite with luxury?

if a country like iran targets a vital and important strategic partner of the united states directly it can't accuse the US of being a terrorist, it simply is terrorising part of the US.

same is also with russia which doesn't threathen israel directly but indirectly.

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Quote from: mildmanneredsuffering on April 11, 2022, 08:57:18 PM

At what point is ok or even necessary to declare war and enforce physical violence on a nation or group in self defense of the economic whole?

Declaring war and defense isn't only when there's a threat economically. But mostly, when there's a threat to the nation's security and that's what most country does.

Just as we can see with the Ukraine-Russia war.

It's about the security threat that Ukraine sees by the attacks made by Russia. And on the side of Russia, they saw those troups that are going near their border and they've find it as a threat as well.

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The existing security architecture in the world is completely untenable, since it has a very significant flaw in its foundation - large economy needs regular local armed conflicts on foreign territory for its sustainable development. It may sound cynical, but external warfare is a radical but very powerful way to revitalize your floundering economy when softer methods no longer help. You dispose of old weapons, test new ones, load your military industry with orders, and this along the chain gives impetus to the entire economy. And after the war, you restore what you just destroyed, loading your construction industry with orders, and this further strengthens the momentum for the development of your economy. Humanitarian and moral aspects aside, this is a very effective method to overcome stagnation and avoid recession, perhaps the most effective one known.

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War isn't ok at any point. The world wars in the past have taught us many things, but the biggest lesson was that war never changes. The cons always outweigh the pros overall which is why most humans avoid them completely.

However, the minority which includes trash like Hitler, Putin etc believed the opposite which led to many innocent people getting screwed in various ways.

Such fools have the power and money to change the world in a negative way which is the sad truth. I just hope this particular minority keeps shrinking as time passes which be beneficial to the world on the whole.

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Quote from: mildmanneredsuffering on April 11, 2022, 08:57:18 PM

At what point is ok or even necessary to declare war and enforce physical violence on a nation or group in self defense of the economic whole?

I think this discussion could have been well suitable for economics board or polity and society, as the content and topic don't relate to a discussion on bitcoin as a whole, just an advice

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Maybe we should learn that in war all sides can be losing a lot and in our modern era there should be no space for war for any reason but sadly this is not the case all because while technologies got advanced to new heights human nature remains the same. In my own personal understanding, getting into war should only be done as a form of self-defense, nothing more nothing less. In our very complicated world, there is no more a black and while answer to anything and the more complicated we become the more we are making things confusing and in many case our very definition of the truth can be changing depending on which side you are in. Now, am just wondering what does this question got to do with cryptocurrency?

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Economics is the reason of wars. Imperialism existed for economic exploitation.
Oil wars are fought for economic reasons.
War of independence of US was economic only.
As for Jews .. i personally respect them. They have contributed immensely to modern world be it in science or economy.
They do deserve respect.
I hope we learn from them rather than blaming them out of jealousy

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Quote from: mildmanneredsuffering on April 11, 2022, 08:57:18 PM

At what point is ok or even necessary to declare war and enforce physical violence on a nation or group in self defense of the economic whole?

at the point where america started a civil war due to the british trying to impose taxes on us imports many hundreds of years ago

at the point where africans started civil wars due to the land theft and hyperinflation games of their own government allowing multi-nations to invade and mess with their economy in the last 100 years

at the point of oil reserves getting low causing the US to invade the middle east many times in the last 40 years

as for if its OK. depends who you are asking.
for the government that get a nice tax income from war, they believe its worth the cost of life.
if you ask the army recruits. well it depends what mantra their recruiters told them concerning how the war is their patriotic duty and can save lives(pfft)
if you ask civilians in general. well depends if they are going to get cheap produce due to the loss of life

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Everyone who knows what the federal reserve is knows that the jewish criminal bankers took over USA before any of us were born.

Does the us military now have an obligation to the American people to use any means necessary including war/violence to end the jewish occupation of American institutions? Does the 2008 disaster and following economic and social destruction of America give absolute cause round up the occupiers?

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At what point is ok or even necessary to declare war and enforce physical violence on a nation or group in self defense of the economic whole?

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