Topic: ⚠️ Warning: Bons.com - Disturbing Practices, Unfair Fees & Manipulated Reviews (Read 735 times)

Hello, thank you so much for your time in doing your research.

As I mentioned earlier, Bons.com. and Bons.io are one project, the difference between them is the prioritization of payment systems, Bons.com prioritizes fiat currency while Bons.io focuses on crypto payments.

As stated by the author of this track negative reviews disappear from trustpilot under our influence, but as you can see all the reviews are in place and we always carefully examine each case and if there are any issues on our part, we always solve them in favor of customers, because we value our reputation, because it is much easier to lose it than to gain, that's why we are here.

 And as you may have noticed positive reviews are much more. 4.2 This is an excellent rating for this area of business.
And I think you will agree with me that even if everything works perfectly there will always be those who do not like something. Yes, we are not perfect as everything in our world, but we strive for the best quality of service in the field of gambling and thanks to your feedback we become better, thank you very much

     -    Well I took a look at the casino platform op is talking about, and this is what I discovered that bons.com and bons.io have the same background design. Meaning, only one has it obviously. Then when I also checked it on the review platform like trustpilot, I also saw some negative feedback on their platform as well as you can see below.

https://www.trustpilot.com/review/bons.com

Those are just a few of the negative reviews I've seen on that platform. It's a bit disturbing to just trust the money entering a casino.

You can look at my previous answers and see that they contain full information regarding this issue, we see all your requests and try to respond to them promptly. This is how we become better.

There, you answered your own doubts. I believe that every service, especially new services, should be given thr benefit of the doubt and we should build a positive and supportive community, plus give the service constructive criticism to help make the do their jobs better.

OP gave his honest review/opinion. THAT'S GOOD, assuming it's all true! Currently, the admins now have to do something to convince the community to play in their casino.

It's good to see you and your team actively answering all of our queries within this thread which is why I am a lot more confident about your site now and will definitely try it out soon.

You do have a point, but his statements seemed valid from back then though a lot seems to have changed now.

Thank you very much for your kind wishes, we will try to become better for our users and for this purpose the feedback from you is especially important, we appreciate it. That's why we are here to clarify unclear points and provide up-to-date information.

But when a topic is untrue and many users are misled by such statements, it is definitely damaging to our reputation, although as you can see there is no basis for this statement.

The author also claims that he is a long time user of the forum, but he is still a newbie and has no activity anywhere else except this thread. And let everyone draw their own conclusions

Yes, so far I see you have done something good and clarified the points in question and that is what is needed when someone is concerned about your project. Maybe you also need to realize that this thread is not some kind of accusation that is detrimental to the reputation you have built, but this thread seems to be a kind of inconvenience for users who complain about terms and conditions and fees.

I see you answered some questions and clarified them clearly, that is the best thing that will make your reputation improve. Anyway, I hope everything is fine and your project will get more and more attention from the community without ignoring the risks involved.

we can't judge them for now because they have not scammed anyone and probably Casino guru have not gotten enough information about the project so their score line is low for now but when the casino put everything in order then scoreline will rise and I believe with due time, all the necessary information will be giving to them. And as for the support team. If anyone wants to contact them, the person can contact through their representatives here and the two telegram bots. Both the Crypto Library telegram channel and the main bot of the casino for more information.

Glad we resolved the issue and got it all figured out. Anyway I want to thank you for your attention to detail, I'm sure you acted in good faith and were concerned for other forum members. And we as a team have those goals as well.

You are right, i already updated the post and want to publicly apologize to you, the link on the footer of the site let us validate the license and it's a legit one.

The fact that someone used the same license ID 8 years ago is still weird for me, but that's the way that Antillephone manages their licenses, and is totally out of your control.

Thanks for clarifying this and for the fast answer, that's what i call great support and already leave a merit for it.

Thank you very much for your in-depth research, I think it would be useful for the rest of the forum to read it and draw conclusions regarding the author of this thread and the untrue information regarding our platform. Our team is very grateful to you for taking your time to check it out and thus revealing the truth to the rest of us, we really appreciate it.


- I believe running a signature campaign without an ANN thread is OK, although you have a point that it's a way to address issues and it could also be used as a public live support for the casino.

- Because Bons is a centralized service, the casino can and WILL run their service their way, and make the decisions that they believe will be good for the business, although debatable.

- Unless someone was actually scammed by Bons, I believe OP should merely post a negative review without gaslighting everyone into believing that the casino is a scam.

BUT having that said, would I play in this casino with hidden charges, intrusive KYC, and high threshold for withrawals? NO.
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Hello, very grateful for your review. As I mentioned before we have an ANN thread where we answer any questions you may have regarding our platform, prodding activities or the brand in general, more details can be found here https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/bons-telegram-5000-prize-pool-tournament-for-bitcointalkers-exclusively-5484894
We value our reputation and work hard to improve the quality of our product, so we have absolutely no interest in deceiving community users and our community as a whole. After all, it is thanks to you that we become better and more attractive.


Hello, we appreciate your meticulousness and attention to detail, but there are a few points I would like to clarify:

1. The forum link you provided started in 2013 and the last post in it was in 2016. I don't know how relevant 8 year old information is to you, but in any case it's your right to choose your sources where to get it.

2- Licenses have been using dynamic printing for a long time now, which expires after 20 minutes of an open page.
To check if the license is up to date you need to go to Bons.com or Bons.io and at the bottom click on the Antillephone icon . and you will see that the license is valid and we are in a legal field to work in.


 
I urge you to verify the information before making it public, because these posts may confuse forum users and you are harming our reputation unnecessarily.

Please be more careful


Hello, we value our reputation and play fair, as you can see none of the questions we have asked have gone unanswered and no evidence has been given that we are not playing fair.
In any case your best advisor is your own experience, you can go to Bons.io or use our telegram bot @Bons and you will see for yourself. Otherwise I wouldn't suggest you such a risky experiment if I wasn't sure of the product, would I?

It's quite tough to tell whether this particular casino will scam customers or not at a certain point in the future. A signature campaign doesn't automatically legitimise them and sites like Betnomi etc can attest to that.

Their team seem to be trying to address all of these accusations in this thread, but they clearly aren't doing enough. Confusing and complicated mess!

There is a problem about the license on this casino, the Antillephone NV 8048/JAZ has been used by many casinos in the past, and a lot of them end up as a scam, source: https://www.casinomeister.com/forums/threads/8048-jaz-license-can-someone-explain.57269/

And when we try to validate the domain with the Antillephone validator, it says the domain isn't valid.

https://validator.antillephone.com/validate?domain=bons.com
https://validator.antillephone.com/validate?domain=bons.io

I would recommend being extremely careful while dealing with this site, because when you send them your personal data on the KYC process you don't know who they are, and you will not be able to complain in the future with the license provider because they don't have a valid license.

UPDATE:

I was wrong, we can validate the license in the icon on the footer of the site, and it's a valid one.

- I believe running a signature campaign without an ANN thread is OK, although you have a point that it's a way to address issues and it could also be used as a public live support for the casino.

- Because Bons is a centralized service, the casino can and WILL run their service their way, and make the decisions that they believe will be good for the business, although debatable.

- Unless someone was actually scammed by Bons, I believe OP should merely post a negative review without gaslighting everyone into believing that the casino is a scam.

BUT having that said, would I play in this casino with hidden charges, intrusive KYC, and high threshold for withrawals? NO.

Note: Started checking the website before bons' reply but I'll still post what I found as it provides depth to the issue.

I decided to make an account since some things from OP's claims are easy to cross check

Yes, there is a 10% fee on withdrawals but according from their payout rules, this only applies on your 3rd withdrawal for the day (with no deposit in between) since the first two are free -- it's actually a sweet deal you can take advantage of imo.


ETH minimum withdrawal amount is also at equivalent of 50 bucks



I'm not sure what's this for though because the actual USDT has a minimum of 10 bucks and no coin appears to have 5 bucks minimum.

In any case, if OP stands by their claims, we would need some sort of supporting information from their end.

Hello, we have a thread Bons Telegram | 5000$ Prize Pool Tournament for Bitcointalkers Exclusively

where we answer all questions from forum users and are open to feedback and suggestions, you can go and see for yourself.
What is written in this thread has nothing to do with reality.
You absolutely do not need KYC to play on our platform, you can log in using Telegram bot @Bons and get started without wasting time on verification.


We have just started our way on Bitcointalk, so so far our campaigns are not so large, but we have big plans and ambitions for the development of our project and in the future we plan to become only better for our users. Thank you for following us and giving us valuable advice, thanks to you we will be able to pay attention to our shortcomings and get better with every feedback.


Hello, what was written in this thread is absolutely incorrect, you can see for yourself by going to our Telegram bot @Bons and check the withdrawal amounts. All of them are formed on the basis of the network commission and have different amounts, but for example the amount of the minimum withdrawal of ETH, which is mentioned in the track, is 50$, and not 800$, which indicates the unreliability of information from the author and the desire to harm our reputation.
Also regarding KYC you can enter through our bot in Telegram and start playing immediately, without additional KYC procedures and you will have access not only to deposits and withdrawals, but also to welcome bonuses.
Also regarding trustpailot I can say that all reviews published there remain in place, you can check this by going to trustpailot and see the reviews. Of course, there will be negative ones among them, because there is a human factor and people can make mistakes and shift responsibility to the product. If it is a defect on our part, we always take the client's side and solve the issue in his favor. This may be why customers delete negative reviews after their issue has been resolved. This is how we handle negative feedback and protect our reputation.


Yes, it is the same project, the difference is in the positioning of payment systems, in Bons.com privilege is given to fiat payment system, in Bons.io vector is more directed to the use of cryptocurrencies. You can check for yourself, everything works fine and everything said in this thread is not reality.


You are absolutely right, it is the same project and bons18.com is a mirror link.  The only difference is the priority of payment systems. Bons.com is more suitable for fiat currencies, and Bons.io for cryptocurrencies

But this has no effect on the work of the product or on the fact that the author of the thread writes things that do not correspond to reality. You can make sure of it yourself in any convenient way for you, check the ease of registration and the amount of minimum withdrawals.

Hi, thank you very much for your attention, but I assure you, if you use our platform yourself you will see that nothing of what you have written is true.
You may also notice that despite the fact that the author claims to be a long time user of the forum, he has no other activity besides this thread and is in newbie status.
I will not tell you who to trust and who not to trust, you can just use our Telegram bot @Bons and make sure that the information is absolutely untrue.

There’s a high chance that they are the same casino and just use a mirror link because the two website is identical when you visit. Typically casino usually secured their website in multiple domain and use it as mirror link.

But this thread is not updated anymore for almost 6 months which we don’t if the casino already improved or not since there’s no info in the OP. Besides, the casino reps don’t have a chance to defend their brand when this thread was created since they are still not active here. I’m not sure if this warning really standing because the OP didn’t mention if there’s no improvement than on the casino since this thread created.

Yeah, but I guess this is the first time that he handled a project it I'm not mistaken, and maybe he didn't do his due diligence to check the project itself unlike experience manager like you.

But let's see if the official rep come here and address the issues, and if the *.com and *.io are indeed the same casinos. And if yes, then it doesn't look good for the project or even for the campaign manager, just saying.

Managers or people trying to be managers should at least try to do a little research before accepting a job. Everything mentioned from the OP isn't exactly a solid scam accusation, but more a warning for potential accusations regarding KYC policy and heavy fees.

I would like to see bons rep come in here and address concerns.

If we do manual check by visiting both .io and the .com, they are exactly the same so it must be a mirror link. There is also one other mirror link bons18.com, this link is given to all users who try to play/visit this casino through their telegram bot. Seems that Crypto Library did not do some researches first before he accept the offer from this casino to post an ANN thread or before he contacted them to offer his service to post ANN thread for them.

@DunkGambler can you confirm if Bons.io and Bons.com are the same casino and operated by the same people? If yes, @Crypto Library might have to be informed about this, and they need to resolve issues. Last thing we want is a casino promoting itself here, yet they keep scamming users. Their safety index on casino guru is pretty low.

OP, if what you wrote about Bons.com is true, then they are not ready for the business yet, or should I say that they are in for ripping off unsuspecting people. I just started to see the casino's signature recently on the forum but I've not tried them and I do not think I can ever try them judging by what you said. If I read you correctly, you mean $800 minimum to withdraw via ETH, and 10% will be deducted from your money whenever you withdraw? These are enough reasons to dissuade people from using them. They could be successful in attracting customers due to their affiliate programs but they can't make such customers stay due to these ridiculous conditions in a more competitive gambling industry.

But for the Trustpilot review, I do not trust it, I don't even use it, and that website has never been a serious place to gain the best info if you are smart. Also, about the KYC, I think that's the standard for some companies these days and you can't blame them for that especially if they are truly regulated and the regulator demands such from them.

Exchanges ask for that often and people gladly oblige them.

Do you mean this one:

[CFNP] Bons.io Signature Campaign |The Telegram Casino|Next gen Gaming-Space

If that's true, the campaign just started a few days ago and is currently running for its first week. I saw different domain where Bons.com and Bons.io directed to the same casino. The campaign only pays $250 to all participants per week with $50 per participant indicating that they don't have much of a promotional budget, so it's probably true, everyone should be careful regardless of the results of your review of the casino.

Wait, look at this:

Bons Telegram | 5000$ Prize Pool Tournament for Bitcointalkers Exclusively

They don't have an ANN Thread but they are currently running a signature campaign.

]Bons.io Signature Campaign |The Telegram Casino|Next gen Gaming-Space 

I wasn't aware that they have an accusation here already. Maybe if they want to correct their mistakes in the past and answer it. They must maintain an ANN thread for that, simply running a campaign would help but it's better to have dedicated thread to answer all queries and defend their reputation.

Saw that they also came to the forum, suggest to stay away from their brand.

This is the first time I have heard of this platform. And Trustpilot hasn't been reliable for years as platforms can easily buy reviews and delete the negative ones that are popping on their review page. It's an unfair practice but it happens, and that's how scam sites make their platform look legitimate. I haven't seen this platform in this forum as a regular poster here, so that's already one reason for me to avoid the site.

Such feedback is actually valuable to this community, as we will have an upper hand not to go to this site.
Most reputable bookies here don't even require KYC with that amount, even if they are licensed.
So one thing to note is check the reviews or feedbacks on the site before sending any penny to them.
This is why for me, this gambling boards in this forum is very helpful when you are looking for a trustworthy casino or bookie.
You can read legit experiences that will give you warning signal before you fall on their bonuses or perks.

Lol, what kind of platform asks for a source of wealth or source of income for just a 100 Euro deposit? They are crazy! However, this thread has revealed its true face to the community and it might even save its readers from getting tricked by the platform. Even if the casino isn't a scam or shady, it still has abnormal requirements and rules that no gambler would like the platform they are using to have. So, it's better to first do your research and then join.

One of the biggest reasons why most people fall victim to such things are review websites that allow manipulation and those who don't have any experience or know that those reviews are fake and rigged will think that the platform has a great reputation and is definitely trusted since it has a good trust score.

Thank you for the kind words. I appreciate the support and understanding. Yes, I've been diving deep into another potential threat, and I'll be sharing my findings in the coming days. It's essential for all of us to remain vigilant and safeguard our investments and interests. Stay tuned!

you have done a lot for the community of bitcointalk mate.

you have saved many potential victims since you have dig  better about this site and the experience is indeed not as good as everyone/every gamblers here.

from this post of yours , surely members of this community will be warned and may not deal with this site from here.

and also , if we become a member of this forum(Bitcointalk.org) we all have the advantage to learn and understand how a  normal and legit gambling sites operates.
there are tons of gambling experts here that shares their experiences and their knowledge about those sites.
beginners luck is for me are correct , but this is also being abused so the site are tightening their security to find whos and whom they are going to win or withdraw.

It looks like another scam casino that goes for heavy KYC before withdrawal. As long as you're losing money it's all good, but try to withdraw and they'll ask for scans of your mother's birth certificate, translated to Spanish by a sworn translator


I doubt it will get enough views without some serious optimization, and that's not free. If Op has some time and money to drop into this, great, but without links and banners this isn't going to pay him back.
I also don't expect OP to have the same enthusiasm after a few months of running the site if it doesn't bring him any profit. Unprofitable businesses tend to get neglected and finally forgotten.

Unfortunately, despite the heavy regulations on crypto businesses it is still the wild west!
OP, I encourage you to start your review website as long as it's going to be free from ads and certainly with no affiliate links (although it's your right) which will give it more credibility.
When it's up, you can promote it here by creating an announcement thread and forum members will certainly help you with their suggestions on how to improve it.

If nothing else, the observations stated by the OP will be helpful to other players that may possibly want to play on bons casino.
Also, if the OP won't create his own site regarding casino reviews, he can very well suggest this casino to review to btcgosu or gamblingbro.
They are the ones so far giving a good comprehensive review of casinos and bookies especially those you can find in the forum.
Because let us admit the fact that creating your own site will be a tedious one particularly if you are starting from scratch.
Why not explore the option of giving this feedback to the already known reputable reviewers such as mentioned and they will add this site to conduct their own review as well?

The casino in question here Bons.com doesn’t have Bitcointalk announcement thread and they are not active too which makes him forget to ask here. His input is fresh contributions in the forum since there’s no known incident of scam or malicious activities related to this site.

This casino will not be questionable here without the OP input since no one has an experience playing in there to establish a scam accusation against the casino.

I left a few positive reviews on TrustPilot over the years, and that's it. I don't visit Trustpilot or Casinoguru to check the casinos, for that matter I only use this forum and BTCGosu. In the past few years, I don't even think about registration if it's not BTCGosu-approved. And I don't have any problems... a few issues got solved quickly after the Gosu intervention.

It's the first time I see that there is a Bons casino... It's hard to give any advice about the casinos outside this forum, there are many of them, but I don't wish to risk with them. I had a few adventures years ago and I still feel like I throw my money for even trying them. I still remember the OrientExpress, after depositing BTC and making a profit they said I can't make a withdrawal in crypto! I think that was the last casino I tried that doesn't have an active ANN thread here. It was +5 years ago.

Well, I hope OP learned his season.

The thread is not about your website, it's about BONS.com. you should answer the question that has been raised on the thread you created. telling that you changed your domain from is not really enough(at least for me). you should add more detail to your explanation, and please, post it on the thread you created.

@OP and mods, sorry if this is off-topic, I am just responding to MrLen.

OP admitted that he has been a follower of this forum for many years and yet he did not ask here if it was worth playing here and taking a chance playing in this questionable casino, but still thankful that he exposed their activity and bad practices, This is a big warning to people who are planning to play here.
I checked the scam section but this casino does not have a complaint here yet, but the way they treat their players we will soon have.

Clearly stated, trust pilot have long history of incompetency and corruption and this have reflected in the numbers of fake reviews their have posted on the site for a long time now, aside frim rating scam casinos like 1xbit, I have also seen Trustpilot giving a ponzi scheme like MTFe and the rest positive reviews also.


It sucks to see such things happening and that is why we must be sceptical, and not trust paid reviews site but rather we can rely on the reviews of members of a community such as bitcoin talk forum and other discussion forums. 

I'm interested to know the name of those forums because it's obviously not here, where most users are posting in this section to fulfill the requirements of their signature campaign without knowing what they are talking about. In addition the experience is usually not the same if you are a high roller or a small player, and a good player or a bad one. Bad players rarely encounter issues with casinos, to take the money of customers things are usually very smooth, it's when you get winnings and you want to withdraw them, that things start to get complicated usually.

I wish you would have come and asked questions before depositing your money on this casino. Sadly, people generally get bit before investigating deeper and finding information that essentially works against them. I have never heard of this casino. Based on what Whois shows me, the domain is for sale. I tried to visit the site, but I am getting an error message. Not sure if it's based on my location or if it's already down. The domain is old and has been around since 1998. My guess is that it was used for something else before it became a casino.

People hurry to try out new casinos, and I think it's the bonuses that blind them. New casinos usually introduce attractive matched deposits of 200% or more. That drives gamblers to the sites hoping they can make a quick buck. But if the wagering requirements are high (which they usually are), you will most probably lose everything.

Ma advice: Stick to proven casinos that have been around for long, are tested, and can be trusted with your money unless you will try to abuse them and cheat. Sportsbet.io is both a casino and a sportsbook. Try that. The only thing I would wish is a lower minimum withdrawal amount for beginners and low-stake players.

Yes I am also like them a newbie before becoming a gambler nowadays but it's true what you think I will definitely test the game in every new casino usually to find luck but even so I'm just a small gambler and bet small so no problem to I think that in the end the site I played on was fraudulent, but on the other hand all the sites I visited were not fraudulent.

I always rely on this forum to see reviews from the community or I myself test the site so I can share with the community here, just like the OP maybe we will never know if he doesn't disclose it here, whatever it is always respect anyone's experience because I also have experience gamble like OP, unfortunately OP relies on trustpilot while I rely on this forum. the point is don't be a loser in the end by complaining about something in this forum because of yourself. just that

this is also what my concern each time , because while we have tons of good gambling sites here that already existing for safer betting yet they are exploring in new or other casino.
are they truly seeking for that beginners luck? and in the end will be a loser or victim of scam sites?

So sorry about your experience. It is a pity that newbies keep falling for virtually all these unknown casino without conducting due diligence on them. They give mouth watering bonuses that are unrealistic just to get at unsuspecting audience who have no idea of their gimmicks.

They are good at tricking people to get registered with them and then they make them deposit and play and when it is time to withdraw from the wins, they start their drama of KYC and others excuses just to trap their members down and after a long battle with KYC they start telling you stories and block your account with them. These are the stories such casino play to but anyways it is nice you mentioned them here. If you can, create a thread for your own experience at to he reputation or scam accusations board with evidence that members could see it and possibly of possible act on it for you but the chances would be minimal to get at them but you have already created awareness here about the casino.

Thank you for sharing the experiences in the Bons.com casino, this will give us, new to the platform, some insight on how the casino operates.  Since @OP stated the unfair practice of the casino, it is more likely that we who have read the testimony of the user and his experience, will avoid this type of casino.  Although some are unverified since @OP does not give any supporting document on his claim of, something like screenshot or some sort as proof.  I would love to see the proof @OP had base on bad experiences on this casino and its unfair system.

Wagering requirement is available in any casino especially when we just deposit some amount and then withdraw it to another wallet.  This is the way of the casino against money laundering and the KYC requirement is just normal where you give a picture of yourself holding your ID and a paper with their site name on it.  It is the verification that you own the ID and it is normal in any KYC proceedings.

I can also share my terrible experience with this site.I used sportsbook and I was limited  while playing with bonus so I had to complete rollover while placing hundreds of bets with 1-2 euro bets.Then when i tried withdrawalit was one of the worst verification processes I ever had.They asked for selfie after selfie.I sent them more than 10 selfies from different angles, in front of computer with my profile , also with notes of todays date.Then they asked for Skype verification and finally even asked for source of wealth, which was again completely unnecessary since my deposit was only 100 euros.
Do not register and play here - also in tedbet.com which is the same as bons

This is the standard KYC verification process of all the casino or any crypto services in general since selfie with the ID is proof that you possess the valid and not purchased online from someone. Although this procedure can still be tampered but this is the standard and I don’t see this as red flag.

However, the number 4 point is what make this casino very alarming. Charging 10% withdrawal fee is overkill since other casino offer free withdrawal fee.


What’s they wagering requirements? Because this is acceptable if they only have x1 wagering requirements to aboid user on committing mixing in the exchange since mos of the casino doesn’t allow withdrawal witnout meeting the wagering requirements.

How did you find this casino? I already saw that the casino is listed on casino.guro, but I'm still curious to know how you found this casino and why you didn't choose to use the old and more reliable casinos, you chose this casino in particular, when I saw this thread I was thinking : What the hell is this casino that I’ve never heard of? So I decided to access the link so I could see what this casino would do to make you create an account there, man, I must confess that right from the beginning I discovered the reason why you created an account at this casino, I suppose you were attracted by that:



the casino has many bonuses, although it is something that all casinos keep doing, it is important to observe how often the casino gives bonuses, the type of bonus and whether the casino has constantly changed bonuses, because when a casino does not have a fixed bonus, something as always and for many years they have a sign-up bonus, weekly bonus, they keep changing it, one month they give x value of sign-up bonus, in other months they change the value of the sign-up bonus so this is a sign that the casino still doesn't have an ideal form of bonus. I like old casinos because they maintain their types of bonuses, even if sometimes they reduce the bonus amount a little, yet the old casino remains faithful to its bonus

This shows the consistency of the casino, while what happens in new casinos is a form of trap, they use the bonus as a way of attracting people to steal from them and as they want to steal in a way that makes it seem like they are not stealing, so they use their money as weapons, and with that they manage to stay in the gambling market for a long time. Well, from what I read you intend to create a casino review site, there are already reliable sites that do this. but if you still want to create it, then you will have to work hard to have a good reputation on this forum, only then can your website be famous and trustworthy

I do think that in order to genuinely know the reviews of a certain gambling platform, this forum has the most impartial reviews from all the forum users.

Like what was mentioned, reviews given may be bought in order to conceal the shady practices of a gambling website. Again, do not trust any review site UNLESS it came from this forum from any of the trusted/legitimate users here.

In conclusion, it is normal to rely on the feedback given by some third-party review site regarding a certain casino. But in order to be more sure, you can always post and ask the users here in this forum to give an extra layer of security. Better safe than sorry!

People keep experimenting with new platforms while there are already plenty of tested and trustworthy sites. You are right: the best way to know how a certain service works is to read/listen to real and unbiased players who talk about their experience. Of course, you can find testimonials which were paid or are directly false, so you have to keep yourself wary and look for contradictions.

Someone who finds the verification too complicated can leave the casino and look for another less complicated one. We have to choose the casino based on what we are looking for and we don't join the casino based on the promotions they provide. Maybe ID requirements have become normal in casinos as a condition for verifying our gambling accounts. But if they ask for more, including selfies, maybe we should rethink verification because if our goal is to gamble just for fun, we shouldn't need to verify the gambling account until it's complete. Casinos should also understand that not all of their members want to make money from gambling and there are some members just want to have fun by gambling and don't think too much about verification.

You've laid a fantastic foundation for your casino review website, and I'm genuinely impressed with the well-crafted original post.
It's clear you've put some thought and effort into it. But, here's a friendly suggestion to make it even better: adding some real evidence, like actual data or examples, could make your thread way more convincing. Plus, it'll help folks see that it's not just a self-promotion thing.

I'm actually pretty excited to see where your project goes from here! Good luck with it, and I'll definitely be keeping an eye on it.

    -   I will quickly lose interest if what I can see and read in the image is accurate, and I concur that the evaluations are fabricated and paid for. Even though TrustPilot is a compensated review site, I'm not sure. Because of this, it's wise to examine a casino before parting with cash to gamble there.

Because if you don't behave in this way, you'll undoubtedly run into trouble when you want to withdraw money from the casino playing platform. To ensure that the money we deposit is not lost, it must also have a license to operate.

OP I have read all you have said and I see you say have been a follower of this platform for so long but you registered here on the 29th of August 2023 and you made this post the following day and it made me wonder why you have been aware of this platform for long as you have said and have not done anything here or is this an alt account of yours to hide your identity?

I think this is not the right board for this as it has to do with reputation of a casino. So therefore it would be nice you move it to reputation board

Reviews are sometimes being manipulated by organisation's. They pay for fake reviews and also to remove reviews pointing out their lapses as well. The best form of review is a personal experience about the process. If you get involved in engagement with them that would give you more clues on who they really are so as to be cautious while dealing with them.

Nevertheless, the casino you mentioned is not popular and I think their presence is not recognised here. So I would advise you to try making use of reputable casino here so that if any issues arises in the future, it can be handled easily without any much problems of protocols.

With respect to KYC, OP should know that this is what virtually all casinos and exchange does. They demand for it based on the existing laws of wherever they are operating from and in that case would not want to default so as not to fall out with the government of their jurisdiction. So in that case, OP KYC is not a new thing neither is it an issue although it is actually against the real decentralisation goal but it is ones decision to choose if to do KYC or not.

Your experience as a first timer is what makes them call crypto names. These are the reasons why people fall victim of scammers and scams and after everything and their first time experience they put the blame on Bitcoin and crypto to be scam while they had forgot to do their own research before engaging. You said you have known this platform for long at least you should have checked for reputable casinos here and make your choice before dealing rather than going after an unknown one.

However, it is nice you are sharing your experience you encountered with this casino so that other members would see it and take caution or possibly do away with them. Your experience is worth learning from OP.

Thanks for sharing.

I see that is what it is, you want to raise your own website of course.

So how are you going to get such genuine feedback or reviews from users willingly or how are you going to convince readers of those reviews that what they are reading is genuine feedback.
The feedback mechanism is no more trusted and that is why when you see a review that attracts you but signing up, you get something not as expected.



These two above points are what I picked out from your complaints to be worried about. If a casino has hidden charges then it means they are not sincere to their customers. Otherwise, KYC is the same thing everywhere.

Agree with you, at least share whatever experience you have playing at any casino, especially since they don't seem to have ANN on this forum, at least you will get a valuable lesson from your experience, indeed sometimes it has to be painful to get more experience and even have to risk losing in order to be better well, I often like that but believe me one day we will find the best casino site ever and can be trusted.

Trustpilot is not reliable, even the reviews there can be bought or paid by someone to make a review there, so it's not a benchmark that the site is good, I've also just heard of this site, never touched it, but my advice is that you can look for a real casino site. good on this forum, look for where their team is active to answer all complaints also on this forum and has a good reputation from the forum community, to be honest I play at a much safer casino in fact I've been playing for almost a year without any problems because it's nice to see the reviews on this forum and their reputation in this forum. 

I am no where trying to side this unknown casino, but I want to correct OP who thinks that selfie with ID requirement is intrusive, what are you expecting? If any platform ask for your ID only it means they are weak, asking for selfie is normal and all top exchanges do ask for it this days, I passed my Kucoin KYC days ago and they asked for a selfie with the ID, same with Binance exchange and Huobi, there is nothing wrong with this requirement.

Reviews can be bought to change the legitimacy of the casino. So don’t always rely on reviews while choosing the casino. Moreover to be honest I never have heard about the casino. I am just wondering, how did you get to the site? These type of sites attract users by tempting promotions, and once you deposit money, your account gets blocked. So always try to play in casinos with good reputation. Else no one will be blamed other than you for the loss of money.

Seriously, though.
One casino has to be specially bad if their have both unfair terms of service and at the same time they intend to take over money from "dormant" accounts. 

I could understand that having a lot of accounts which do not have much activity can be a hassle for casinos, specially those not big enough to invest more money in their structure and keep track of the balances of all their users, still I do not think money should be cut short from the integrity of their gamblers as this website does.

How I wish you had looked through sites like casinoguru before using them. All red flags can be seen, unlike Trustpilot, whose reviews can easily be manipulated. For example, 1xbit had so many negative reviews, but they instead deleted the genuine negative reviews and left fake positive reviews giving the casino a high star score which was the complete opposite of what they were doing to their customers

They have 8 complaints on casinoguru and their safety index is low with a score of 4/10
https://casino.guru/bons-casino-review#tab=js-tab-detail-homepage

Thanks for chiming in on my post. You've raised a very valid point about Trustpilots. It's becoming increasingly challenging to discern genuine reviews from the fabricated ones on these platforms. Your perspective is precisely why I turned to this forum. I value the collective wisdom and candid experiences of community members here.

You're right; nothing beats firsthand accounts from users who've navigated these platforms themselves. Lesson indeed learned, and I'll be more cautious moving forward. I appreciate your advice and the heads-up.

If you using (Trustpilots) for the reviewer.

It's not a good option, there has some service provided a fake review on these platform. As always, since you are new (lesson has been learned) the most recommended suggestion, advice, review is always from a forum.

Because you will get a good answer from a real experience user who already playing on the site.

Though I've been an avid follower of this forum for years, this is my first time taking the initiative to participate actively and voice my concerns. I believe that our community thrives on transparency and shared experiences, and today I aim to contribute to that collective knowledge.

1. Introduction to Bons.com: Recently, I decided to experiment with a platform named Bons.com. As an enthusiast and a believer in the potential of the crypto industry, it's disheartening to encounter platforms that seem to deviate from the principles that make our community so robust.

2. High Threshold for Withdrawals: The first red flag was their exorbitantly high withdrawal threshold of $800 in ETH. It's unreasonable, especially for newcomers in the crypto sphere.

3. Intrusive KYC Requirements: Once I tried withdrawing, I was inundated with an avalanche of KYC verifications – from basic ones to more intrusive demands like a selfie with my ID. I respect KYC as a standard, but the timing and intensity at Bons.com felt more like a tactic to deter withdrawals than a genuine security measure.

4. Hidden Charges and High Fees: The fees here are nothing short of daylight robbery. Aside from taxing deposits and withdrawals heavily, there's a staggering 10% fee on withdrawals. They even coerce users into meeting a wagering requirement to avoid this 10% fee, irrespective of whether you used any bonus.

5. Suspicious Online Reviews: My alarm bells started ringing louder when I noticed the peculiar behavior of their online reviews. Negative feedback on Trustpilot seems to vanish into thin air. This manipulation isn't isolated to just Trustpilot – many review sites, especially in the casino and sportsbook domain, seem to be swayed easily by financial incentives.

6. Affiliates, Beware!: For those contemplating affiliate marketing with Bons.com, I'd recommend a hard pass. Their terms and overall conduct are far from congenial.

7. My Future Plans: Given my experiences and observations, I'm contemplating launching a small website dedicated to unadulterated reviews. The focus will be on genuine feedback from users, including myself, without any commercial incentives or affiliate commissions. Authenticity and honesty will be at its core.

In Conclusion: The crypto industry deserves platforms that uphold its values. My experience with Bons.com is a cautionary tale I felt obligated to share. I hope it aids fellow members in making informed choices and would love to hear from those who've had similar encounters.