Charging consultation fees is totally legitimate. Finding someone who is who they say they are and do what they say they will is the challenge in this world.
I have talked with Alex, verified he is the real guy, admin of their Twitter account (https://twitter.com/ICOcountdown) , owner of their domain (http://www.icocountdown.com/) and owner of their Telegram account (https://t.me/icocountdown).
I* have hired him for consulting as we move towards our crowd funding launch. I will report as we go.
Topic: WARNING: ICOcountdown.com SCAM extortion scheme (Read 6247 times)
Just gonna step in here to say calling someone a scam for charging a listing rate is dipshittery at its finest.
Thats literally his business, offering ico expertise and listing on hist sit *for a fee*. How you don't understand that you dont just get peoples services for free is beyond me.
Thats literally his business, offering ico expertise and listing on hist sit *for a fee*. How you don't understand that you dont just get peoples services for free is beyond me.
i think icocountdown is good service
many coin is succes in ico selling use icocountdown service, sample LUNYR coin
but iam not understand about OP problem 4.5 bitcoin with ico countdown
many coin is succes in ico selling use icocountdown service, sample LUNYR coin
but iam not understand about OP problem 4.5 bitcoin with ico countdown
Most business people look at the Bitcoin and crypto coins arena and wonder where the money is. A good business person will examine a pre-existing business model and start finding the path with the highest revenue, the lowest cost and the most staying power. If you watch the ICO/IPO part of the market, there is a lot of work that goes into launching your own and the market is hard to break.
Service providers are the link to revenue in every business market. Linking two parties for a fee is the magic sweet spot that you want to always be. Think about medical insurance. The doctors don't want to deal with the billing, the insurance companies don't want to deal with thousands of clients, so a third party company handles nothing but the exchange of information and funding sources between the medical world and the insurance world and takes a fee for every bit of work done.
This site is a middleman service and they do so because both ends have high risk and possible high returns. These days it is not about the water company selling water to the people in the desert, it is about the middleman that connects the people in the desert and the water company, performing very little real work and charging probably both ends of the exchange a hefty fee.
But, if it were not for the third party middle area of service, our companies might have to go back to answering their own phones, dealing with their clients directly and we just can't have that, lol.
the fact that you have to pay to get listed is absolute BS and bad business. I'd stay away from that site. The guy is just using his domain name to make revenue
i think icocountdown is good service
many coin is succes in ico selling use icocountdown service, sample LUNYR coin
but iam not understand about OP problem 4.5 bitcoin with ico countdown
many coin is succes in ico selling use icocountdown service, sample LUNYR coin
but iam not understand about OP problem 4.5 bitcoin with ico countdown
Most business people look at the Bitcoin and crypto coins arena and wonder where the money is. A good business person will examine a pre-existing business model and start finding the path with the highest revenue, the lowest cost and the most staying power. If you watch the ICO/IPO part of the market, there is a lot of work that goes into launching your own and the market is hard to break.
Service providers are the link to revenue in every business market. Linking two parties for a fee is the magic sweet spot that you want to always be. Think about medical insurance. The doctors don't want to deal with the billing, the insurance companies don't want to deal with thousands of clients, so a third party company handles nothing but the exchange of information and funding sources between the medical world and the insurance world and takes a fee for every bit of work done.
This site is a middleman service and they do so because both ends have high risk and possible high returns. These days it is not about the water company selling water to the people in the desert, it is about the middleman that connects the people in the desert and the water company, performing very little real work and charging probably both ends of the exchange a hefty fee.
i think icocountdown is good service
many coin is succes in ico selling use icocountdown service, sample LUNYR coin
but iam not understand about OP problem 4.5 bitcoin with ico countdown
many coin is succes in ico selling use icocountdown service, sample LUNYR coin
but iam not understand about OP problem 4.5 bitcoin with ico countdown
Most business people look at the Bitcoin and crypto coins arena and wonder where the money is. A good business person will examine a pre-existing business model and start finding the path with the highest revenue, the lowest cost and the most staying power. If you watch the ICO/IPO part of the market, there is a lot of work that goes into launching your own and the market is hard to break.
Service providers are the link to revenue in every business market. Linking two parties for a fee is the magic sweet spot that you want to always be. Think about medical insurance. The doctors don't want to deal with the billing, the insurance companies don't want to deal with thousands of clients, so a third party company handles nothing but the exchange of information and funding sources between the medical world and the insurance world and takes a fee for every bit of work done.
is that any different than a website charging advertising fees?
And if your project can't afford 4.5 Bitcoin then maybe people shouldn't be trusting you with their hard earned coins cause you're broke
shitcoin exchanges do the same thing, charge to get coins listed...cost of doing business. Is this like the only site people use to find shitty underfunded ICO projects to dump coins into?
Maybe you should do an ICO to create a WEBSITE to compete with icocountdown considering it's nothing more than a website and they are charging high fees..
And if your project can't afford 4.5 Bitcoin then maybe people shouldn't be trusting you with their hard earned coins cause you're broke
shitcoin exchanges do the same thing, charge to get coins listed...cost of doing business. Is this like the only site people use to find shitty underfunded ICO projects to dump coins into?
Maybe you should do an ICO to create a WEBSITE to compete with icocountdown considering it's nothing more than a website and they are charging high fees..
The exchanges are the place in the Bitcoin world where the controls are the tightest. When FIAT is involved, there is a point where the government will worm its way in and they found that point at the exchange of FIAT and crypto, so launching an exchange is expensive and difficult. Mining coins, running a farm and anything that involves mining needs constant upgrading, is very fragile in a revenue sense and is a full time job if it is done correctly.
is that any different than a website charging advertising fees?
And if your project can't afford 4.5 Bitcoin then maybe people shouldn't be trusting you with their hard earned coins cause you're broke
shitcoin exchanges do the same thing, charge to get coins listed...cost of doing business. Is this like the only site people use to find shitty underfunded ICO projects to dump coins into?
Maybe you should do an ICO to create a WEBSITE to compete with icocountdown considering it's nothing more than a website and they are charging high fees..
And if your project can't afford 4.5 Bitcoin then maybe people shouldn't be trusting you with their hard earned coins cause you're broke
shitcoin exchanges do the same thing, charge to get coins listed...cost of doing business. Is this like the only site people use to find shitty underfunded ICO projects to dump coins into?
Maybe you should do an ICO to create a WEBSITE to compete with icocountdown considering it's nothing more than a website and they are charging high fees..
i think icocountdown is good service
many coin is succes in ico selling use icocountdown service, sample LUNYR coin
but iam not understand about OP problem 4.5 bitcoin with ico countdown
many coin is succes in ico selling use icocountdown service, sample LUNYR coin
but iam not understand about OP problem 4.5 bitcoin with ico countdown
Most business people look at the Bitcoin and crypto coins arena and wonder where the money is. A good business person will examine a pre-existing business model and start finding the path with the highest revenue, the lowest cost and the most staying power. If you watch the ICO/IPO part of the market, there is a lot of work that goes into launching your own and the market is hard to break.
i think icocountdown is good service
many coin is succes in ico selling use icocountdown service, sample LUNYR coin
but iam not understand about OP problem 4.5 bitcoin with ico countdown
many coin is succes in ico selling use icocountdown service, sample LUNYR coin
but iam not understand about OP problem 4.5 bitcoin with ico countdown
picked up some coins,hope the crowd sale goes as planned. Goodluck!
thank you!Contact to icocountdown or smithandcrown and let them to list this ICO into their website..
Sometimes they help many ICO too
Icocountdown scam.
What are the services, which list ICO for free? Do you have a list of them?
WARNING
ICOcountdown.com aka Alex is trying to extort projects by demanding exorbitant fees to have projects listed on his worthless website.
On top of that, he's now trying to run an ICO [https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1480468.0]:
-- What a pathetic attempt. Come on.
That's really expensive for a listing, but if you don't pay he doesn't get to "scam" you. ICOcountdown wanted us to pay him 4.5 btc to be on his site and we didn't accept his offer.
ICOcountdown.com aka Alex is trying to extort projects by demanding exorbitant fees to have projects listed on his worthless website.
On top of that, he's now trying to run an ICO [https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1480468.0]:
Hello everyone,
I have decided to launch my own personal token.
My life will be now tokenized on the Bitcoin blockchain. The life is tradeable and divisible.
I have decided to launch my own personal token.
My life will be now tokenized on the Bitcoin blockchain. The life is tradeable and divisible.
-- What a pathetic attempt. Come on.
Any service you guys recommend for ICO listing that is not a scam?
The best one is the crowdsourced one: https://github.com/Scanate/UltimateICOCalendar
https://iconetwork.io/
Any service you guys recommend for ICO listing that is not a scam?
The best one is the crowdsourced one: https://github.com/Scanate/UltimateICOCalendar
This thread confirms everything I've already heard.
Any service you guys recommend for ICO listing that is not a scam?
picked up some coins,hope the crowd sale goes as planned. Goodluck!
thank you!Contact to icocountdown or smithandcrown and let them to list this ICO into their website..
Sometimes they help many ICO too
Icocountdown scam.
they already been slapped in the face by Qtum's big success!
what he also asked for 4.5 btc from you?
because we all now know what alex is doing since this thread was up. i would kindly look it if he just ask a number of token/coins of the project. but noo he wants in btc.
WARNING:
The Scammer is still active!
The Scammer is still active!
Anyone?
Either to warn the community or to seek vengeance.
But he doesnt have a project. What vengence? Please explain OP.
Something like
ICO countdown calls out a coin as a scam. The coin creators feels its unjustified. Coin Creators create multiple accounts on this forum and then use them to accuse ICO Countdown of being a shakedown operation.
The reason $400 charge does not look good is that ICO Countdown is seen as a watchdog. Undisclosed payments would tarnish that.
Anyone?
Either to warn the community or to seek vengeance.
But he doesnt have a project. What vengence? Please explain OP.
It is just someone that has something against the site and is trying to hurt them. Pretty standard forum BS
Anyone?
Either to warn the community or to seek vengeance.
But he doesnt have a project. What vengence? Please explain OP.
WARNING
ICOcountdown.com aka Alex is trying to extort projects by demanding exorbitant fees to have projects listed on his worthless website.
On top of that, he's now trying to run an ICO [https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1480468.0]:
-- What a pathetic attempt. Come on.
ICOcountdown wanted us to pay him 4.5 btc to be on his site and we didn't accept his offer.
ICOcountdown.com aka Alex is trying to extort projects by demanding exorbitant fees to have projects listed on his worthless website.
On top of that, he's now trying to run an ICO [https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1480468.0]:
Hello everyone,
I have decided to launch my own personal token.
My life will be now tokenized on the Bitcoin blockchain. The life is tradeable and divisible.
I have decided to launch my own personal token.
My life will be now tokenized on the Bitcoin blockchain. The life is tradeable and divisible.
-- What a pathetic attempt. Come on.
Has anyone else tried to list a project? Maybe it has something to do with you and your project, just a question.
Anyone?
Either to warn the community or to seek vengeance.
Anyone?
Why was OP asking about listing a project on ICOCountdown if OP doesn't have a project? Why was this screen captured conversation going on if there was no project?
Oh I thought you had a project that you want listed and then had to pay 4.5 BTC.
I don't have any cryptocurrency project.
~CfA~
tokeweed is asking the OP. While I do think OP had been asked to pay 4btc for his listing. exposing ICOcountdown.com still helps to warn devs.
OP is also From Above's account. He signed a message from both accounts and posted them but he deleted them. I'm sure he can post two signed messages again if we ask just to prove cryptosecurity = From Above.
How is OpenLedger compared to other decentralised exchanges such as EtherEx?
Wrong topic
For a 4.5 BTC we will move that to a right thread.
How is OpenLedger compared to other decentralised exchanges such as EtherEx?
Wrong topic
How is OpenLedger compared to other decentralised exchanges such as EtherEx?
Oh I thought you had a project that you want listed and then had to pay 4.5 BTC.
I don't have any cryptocurrency project.
~CfA~
tokeweed is asking the OP. While I do think OP had been asked to pay 4btc for his listing. exposing ICOcountdown.com still helps to warn devs.
Oh I thought you had a project that you want listed and then had to pay 4.5 BTC.
I don't have any cryptocurrency project.
~CfA~
Oh I thought you had a project that you want listed and then had to pay 4.5 BTC.
I think the ICOO project. It's a token by bit shares being in IPO.
Oh I thought you had a project that you want listed and then had to pay 4.5 BTC.
So what's the project? Got curious.
idk what you're referring to but this thread's purpose is to unmask the icocountdown.com extortion scheme.
hit tha J
~CfA~
... and yet another scammer got busted in crypto land!
So what's the project? Got curious.
OP, just curious... What's your project that you want listed?
I don't want any projects listed on any website. I believe in decentralization.
So what was he asking 4.5 BTC for?
OP, just curious... What's your project that you want listed?
That's a pity. A site like it is very useful.
Imo it's not cause it's heavily centralized (one person's opinion).
Common sense and a little experience is all it needs to be able to personally assess projects.
I don't need some sort of wannabe authority telling me what or what not to be interested in.
I just want to see all the upcoming ICO's and what's running. Don't care if it's jus a thread here on this forum.
Hi Alty 
I just told things as they were and people picked up on it.
ICOO also turn him down. He must have asked more too.
It's all over for ICOcountdown, he's been exposed.
That's a pity. A site like it is very useful.
Imo it's not cause it's heavily centralized (one person's opinion).
Common sense and a little experience is all it needs to be able to personally assess projects.
I don't need some sort of wannabe authority telling me what or what not to be interested in.
Hi Alty
That's a pity. A site like it is very useful.
What did he mean when he said that "he can give it back"? Give the 4.5 BTC back?
What did he mean when he said that "he can give it back"? Give the 4.5 BTC back?
Good to know, thanks.
The first time I saw the account ICOcountdown spamming shit I used the ignore function.
Unfortunately there are way too many uninformed lazy investors (meaning gamblers) buying into all sorts of retarded ICO scams and giving money to anon scammers with nothing to show up, giving bad name for crypto in general.
So when there's a "service" dedicated to reminding people when they should prepare their wallets and bend over then there's obviously something very wrong.
Unfortunately there are way too many uninformed lazy investors (meaning gamblers) buying into all sorts of retarded ICO scams and giving money to anon scammers with nothing to show up, giving bad name for crypto in general.
So when there's a "service" dedicated to reminding people when they should prepare their wallets and bend over then there's obviously something very wrong.
WARNING
ICOcountdown.com aka Alex is trying to extort projects by demanding exorbitant fees to have projects listed on his worthless website.
On top of that, he's now trying to run an ICO [https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1480468.0]:
-- What a pathetic attempt. Come on.
Same thing with RISE, with MINEUM and probably many others.ICOcountdown wanted us to pay him 4.5 btc to be on his site and we didn't accept his offer.
ICOcountdown.com aka Alex is trying to extort projects by demanding exorbitant fees to have projects listed on his worthless website.
On top of that, he's now trying to run an ICO [https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1480468.0]:
Hello everyone,
I have decided to launch my own personal token.
My life will be now tokenized on the Bitcoin blockchain. The life is tradeable and divisible.
I have decided to launch my own personal token.
My life will be now tokenized on the Bitcoin blockchain. The life is tradeable and divisible.
-- What a pathetic attempt. Come on.
Pathetic.
OMG ppl like these need a lesson. That dude thinks he's some sort of *ICO Authority* here now or what?
haha pay me the 4.5 BTC and I post Alex's full DOX
haha pay me the 4.5 BTC and I post Alex's full DOX
What a dork, that's really sad
WARNING
ICOcountdown.com aka Alex is trying to extort projects by demanding exorbitant fees to have projects listed on his worthless website.
On top of that, he's now trying to run an ICO [https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1480468.0]:
-- What a pathetic attempt. Come on.
ICOcountdown wanted us to pay him 4.5 btc to be on his site and we didn't accept his offer.
ICOcountdown.com aka Alex is trying to extort projects by demanding exorbitant fees to have projects listed on his worthless website.
On top of that, he's now trying to run an ICO [https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1480468.0]:
Hello everyone,
I have decided to launch my own personal token.
My life will be now tokenized on the Bitcoin blockchain. The life is tradeable and divisible.
I have decided to launch my own personal token.
My life will be now tokenized on the Bitcoin blockchain. The life is tradeable and divisible.
-- What a pathetic attempt. Come on.
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