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Quote from: bitsmichel on May 17, 2014, 07:05:40 PM

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Is this a trick question in this post NSA-Snowden world? Smiley Obviously this project is far from replacing google now. Short term, mid term.
First of all I could not believe I have never heard of this project. So maybe before making another parallel project like this one with the blockchain you could contact the dude behind YaCy and ask to help out anyway you could?
But YES I would do my best to help out by maybe be a simple node on the network or use YaCyPi. This search engine is something a lot of bitcoiners would love to use, the more the merrier on a peer to peer network obviously...

I think that to a degree, YaCy has features of the bitcoin technolgy, both are decentralized. So I do not know directly the benefits of having it on blockchain technology.

To interact on the client side from code is very easy :
http://search.yacy.de/yacysearch.rss?query=Bitcoin&maximumRecords=10 (RSS)
http://search.yacy.de/yacysearch.json?query=Bitcoin&maximumRecords=10 (JSON)

As you said, its not near replacing google now. Sure, you can get a bunch of results but you want these results are accurate to your query. Given enough data, you could organise the results in a way they fit the query on client side. The main problem is the search results relevancy, the interface (I prefer more simple interface) and the domain name.
These are all problems that can be addressed.

For example, the relavance could be improved using this algorithm:

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1) Collect all data, say the algorithm opens all rss/json pages.
http://search.yacy.de/yacysearch.rss?query=Bitcoin&maximumRecords=10&startRecord=10
http://search.yacy.de/yacysearch.rss?query=Bitcoin&maximumRecords=10&startRecord=20
etc

2) Now you have a bunch of data. Now you can organise them based on a set of variables to better match the query.
For example, domain name, text on the page, backlinks etc.

3) Show the results

Anyway the topic is about net neutrality;

Indeed. Sorry for derailing this thread. I just had to learn more about YaCy

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Is this a trick question in this post NSA-Snowden world? Smiley Obviously this project is far from replacing google now. Short term, mid term.
First of all I could not believe I have never heard of this project. So maybe before making another parallel project like this one with the blockchain you could contact the dude behind YaCy and ask to help out anyway you could?
But YES I would do my best to help out by maybe be a simple node on the network or use YaCyPi. This search engine is something a lot of bitcoiners would love to use, the more the merrier on a peer to peer network obviously...

I think that to a degree, YaCy has features of the bitcoin technolgy, both are decentralized. So I do not know directly the benefits of having it on blockchain technology.

To interact on the client side from code is very easy :
http://search.yacy.de/yacysearch.rss?query=Bitcoin&maximumRecords=10 (RSS)
http://search.yacy.de/yacysearch.json?query=Bitcoin&maximumRecords=10 (JSON)

As you said, its not near replacing google now. Sure, you can get a bunch of results but you want these results are accurate to your query. Given enough data, you could organise the results in a way they fit the query on client side. The main problem is the search results relevancy, the interface (I prefer more simple interface) and the domain name.
These are all problems that can be addressed.

For example, the relavance could be improved using this algorithm:

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1) Collect all data, say the algorithm opens all rss/json pages.
http://search.yacy.de/yacysearch.rss?query=Bitcoin&maximumRecords=10&startRecord=10
http://search.yacy.de/yacysearch.rss?query=Bitcoin&maximumRecords=10&startRecord=20
etc

2) Now you have a bunch of data. Now you can organise them based on a set of variables to better match the query.
For example, domain name, text on the page, backlinks etc.

3) Show the results

Anyway the topic is about net neutrality;

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Quote from: bitsmichel on May 17, 2014, 05:36:57 PM

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If you are directly involved with YaCy in any way you should def push it to the bitcointalk community. Very bright minds around here willing to help shape an open internet, while they can still can... I am watching interviews with Michael Christen right now on YouTube.

Many bitcoin inspired projects are flourishing. There is a Renaissance like enthusiastic atmosphere around some of them, YaCy need to be more exposed.

I am not directly involved with YACy, but can make software like this. Ill need to study more about blockchain networks tho, so far I understand say 60% of it. Would you use such a search engine daily?

Is this a trick question in this post NSA-Snowden world?

Obviously this project is far from replacing google now. Short term, mid term.
First of all I could not believe I have never heard of this project. So maybe before making another parallel project like this one with the blockchain you could contact the dude behind YaCy and ask to help out anyway you could?
But YES I would do my best to help out by maybe be a simple node on the network or use YaCyPi. This search engine is something a lot of bitcoiners would love to use, the more the merrier on a peer to peer network obviously...

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If you are directly involved with YaCy in any way you should def push it to the bitcointalk community. Very bright minds around here willing to help shape an open internet, while they can still can... I am watching interviews with Michael Christen right now on YouTube.

Many bitcoin inspired projects are flourishing. There is a Renaissance like enthusiastic atmosphere around some of them, YaCy need to be more exposed.

I am not directly involved with YACy, but can make software like this. Ill need to study more about blockchain networks tho, so far I understand say 60% of it. Would you use such a search engine daily?

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Quote from: Hazir on May 14, 2014, 09:06:01 PM

Could you sign this petition to save net neutrality?

https://petitions.whitehouse.gov/petition/maintain-true-net-neutrality-protect-freedom-information-united-states/9sxxdBgy

This is really important and if Net Neutrality is destroyed it'll affect everyone who uses the internet.

It may be impossible to google the word sex soon...

This petition to the White House will save "net neutrality" only when there will be no such thing as the White House.

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Quote from: bitsmichel on May 17, 2014, 11:09:24 AM

yes, this is a really cool concept. I could make a decentralized search engine also, but I need to study upon blockchain technology

If you are directly involved with YaCy in any way you should def push it to the bitcointalk community. Very bright minds around here willing to help shape an open internet, while they can still can... I am watching interviews with Michael Christen right now on YouTube.

Many bitcoin inspired projects are flourishing. There is a Renaissance like enthusiastic atmosphere around some of them, YaCy need to be more exposed.

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Quote from: Hazir on May 14, 2014, 09:06:01 PM

Could you sign this petition to save net neutrality?

Beg the government to protect Netflix's free transport?

No thanks.

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yes, this is a really cool concept. I could make a decentralized search engine also, but I need to study upon blockchain technology

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Quote from: bitsmichel on May 17, 2014, 11:02:54 AM

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It may be impossible to google the word sex soon...

I dont use google

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Maybe the solution would be to create a new form of search engine network so powerful people would say "bitcoin it" instead of "google it"

Sure, decentralized technology has a lot of power. For example there is http://www.yacy.net/en/index.html, but there may wel lbe one based on blockchain technology

Wow! Learning everyday. Thanks for that link.

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It may be impossible to google the word sex soon...

I dont use google

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Maybe the solution would be to create a new form of search engine network so powerful people would say "bitcoin it" instead of "google it"

Sure, decentralized technology has a lot of power. For example there is http://www.yacy.net/en/index.html, but there may wel lbe one based on blockchain technology

I have not heard much about net neutrality, can you eleborate?

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Maybe the solution would be to create a new form of search engine network so powerful people would say "bitcoin it" instead of "google it"

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Could you sign this petition to save net neutrality?

https://petitions.whitehouse.gov/petition/maintain-true-net-neutrality-protect-freedom-information-united-states/9sxxdBgy

This is really important and if Net Neutrality is destroyed it'll affect everyone who uses the internet.

It may be impossible to google the word sex soon...

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