Topic: Wars not really about resouces nowdays anymore its revenge (Read 175 times)

Yes, you are right and that's our prayer for it not to happen in our own country because it's not something that we worth it, it doesn't give any positivity to the people.

It does more harm than good to the society, that is it will kill more people, makes some people to be homeless and helpless, because wars are occurrence that happen due to influence and disagreement as you said earlier and no matter how we try, we can't stop it except our leaders do so but they won't stop and doesn't care about our wellbeing but because of power, they will continue just to satisfied their selfish desire, so in this case we pray never to be a victim of any circumstances.

Yes war don't exist without anything trigger it, before revenge by op there must be elements that created such room, if we may say us as result of existing conflict which has happened in time past and been brought forward by another generation I may not argue much because most war has their map even if it may sound hidden because in war not all agenda is been brought forward to the knowledge of the masses the leaders may keep it as top secret against their opponent I may digress little in reference to recent happening isreal and Hamas war as today was trigger by some past happening which may not be published as Hamas may be counting on their past losses in the hand of isreal before them revenge that escalated to this broader range rely on this senairo may not dispute the op opinion.

As experienced people say, war is an extreme form of political activity. If a state has an advantage in the military sphere, then this state is able to subjugate other territories and peoples and, as a result, gain superiority among other countries. We are now in an arms race in which there will only be one winner. And all military potential depends on people, money and, above all, the government.

it takes a day to start a war but almost takes forever to bring it to a close. people have different reasons for going into war and what you've just posted out is just one out of the somany reasons why we still fight war even in this modern society.

Sometimes I feel that fighting war isn't necessary but when you're in a position where you've been pushed to the wall and the only available option you have is to fight, you will know why war is still going on across the different part of the world even as we speak. People are wicked and some of the atrocities that were committed against some of our innocent parents, if you get to read about them, you wouldn't sleep sure to the trauma. But then, is that enough reason to go into war and see still kill somany  innocent people that have no knowledge about the war? That's a question we all have to answer.

Yes, you are right but to come to think of it, for what that will not last long and some of them might not be able to enjoy their power for long, but I wonder if they don't have human sympathetic because they are creating war and conflicts which can be done in a quite and peaceful way.

Reasons for different wars are complex and diverse, you can't just say resources or revenge like they would be some universal reasons. Sure, revenge plays a part among with the resources. But it's way more nuanced than that. Usually it involves a lot of things, and to pick one of them and understand it you need to understand the cultures and the history. Like Israel vs Palestina for example. There have been experts trying to solve that longer than i have been alive, and roots of it can be tracked to britannia, and reasons why britannia got involved can be tracked even further.

Sometimes big part of the reason for justifying all out war can be an ideological intervention, because of genocide or other monsterous acts. Sometimes they are civil wars, alliance packs or defensive tactics.

And that's the thing with the history. When we are looking for a root reason, there's just not one place you can start reading about it. Everything affects to everything and geopolitical conflicts have often deep and complex long roots. You can't just simplify them as "revenge", like it would solve something. It's populist standpoint and simplifying wars is just dangerous and very open to biased propaganda.

The wars going on right now brings nothing good as many other countries may be thinking of fighting their neighbors that they hate,there are tons of such stories in Balkans and can start another war anytime now thanks to the Russia and Israeli wars going on from such a long time now,they are inspiring other oppressing regimes to go and fight to reclaim what they think they are their historical lands that belong to them.Putin by quoting Peter the First in 300 years ago in his war against Finland/Sweden back then is inspiring other countries to start fighting for such historical lands.Wars bring only losses to anyone and there are no real "winners" in a war.

While it may not be for resources any more, it still is about power and not just revenge. Some of these countries may not want to take revenge but then they also can’t let the other country think that they are weak or dumb, so they are forced to show a taste of their power. It’s a combination of revenge and power. Wars can be reduced if only we can get closer to one another and respect each other’s differences.

No I disagree with OP as wars are totally for control and once they control the territory they have control over resource as no one has time to fight war just for revenge as it's for sheer control and benefits. No one gets benefitted by ear for revenge hence wars are not fought for revenge. Just show me any modern day war which was fought for revenge and you won't find one.

it's still the same, it's all a matter of interests and expansion of influence. because these two things are often the trigger for war in many countries around the world, and we should not be surprised that this will happen because it is a common occurrence in human history. there is nothing we can do to prevent this from happening, other than hoping that it will not happen in our own country.

The politics of the past were correct, but the politics that have started in the present are about the struggle for wealth and power. At the present time, the more liars and evils use enough measures to make themselves known as the only powerful person. In the beginning they become people friendly and politician leaders, later they get elected by false promises from the people and then their true form emerges in front of the people. Because he does not hesitate to do more and more bad things in his greed for power and money.

You are absolutely right, wars doesn't end well, no matter how small it is and will always cost most people lives and as you said seeking revenge for something is not always the alternative as it will always have a side effect that will even expand generations instead we should seek or embrace understanding, compassion and peace, also know the root of the problem or conflicts and finding solutions and most important we should have forgiven spirit in us, this can inspire others to look up to us as role models and can motivate others to join us in working together to have a compassionate and understanding world and create a brighter future for all rather than violence and aggression.

I don't see the reason for wars these days to be only for retaliation. No. For the majority of it, it has been for interest or trade, boundary disagreement and identity. Most of the wars fought in Africa has been on ethnicity like in Congo, in Rwanda Hutus and tutsis. In Ukraine and Russia, I don't think it is for the reason of retaliation but interest neither is it in Israel and Palestine etc. However, a variety of causes can lead to war because in human relationship, it doesn't always go in agreement as there is bound to be conflict where two people are in cooperate existence.

It has always been the usual ways been discovered about people for the reason why they go into war to make revenge, this means they have no forgiving spirit, you cant believe in some situations whereby what they thought actually happened wasn't the exact situation for the reason why the war start, we cannot predict on the situations of things in which we are not there being present physically except there are valid reasons to serve as evidence on that, still yet, ,making retaliation is not what is good because doing such will only come at the cost of the innocent ones.

Good job everyone feeding this sockpuppeting turdposter 

Like what the fuck has to be going through your mind if you read the OP word salad and think "yeah that's something I want to discuss".

Wars these days are only about profit. Many years ago super powers were trying to build empires with many colonies. Now wars are just about money, pillaging countries for minerals, fossil fuels etc. It’s sad but it’s the world we live in.

Expanding territories, so yes powers and gaining more people to show their strength and vast lands that they own.

Not for revenge, it's still the same and not that much have changed. It's still the same from showing military prowess to gaining more alliance which means security, power and resources.

I got the point but we've been always getting to the point of our roots. While the modern belief have been changing gradually but the roots can't be removed. We're not for the war, we're all for the peace but we can't do anything if our government starts to engage on it and there's always the agenda that they want to have. As the saying goes, "history repeats itself" and with that, we're coming back to the roots and reasons why they're doing this.

The OP should have provided some links or examples of countries that went to war just to revenge what another older generation did to their older generation, revenge is the aftermath of a wrong done to someone, community or country. Something must've caused the initial war or conflict that'll necessitate a revenge, so it's definitely resources, encroachment, colonization, power and the rest that starts a war, if the receiving sides resists, revenge mainly comes after surfering a defeat. I can say that most wars are started out of interests, to fight for something that will be beneficial to you as an individual or a country as a whole.

I would like to go against the OP's thread title and say wars are about resources and resources
essentially mean territory, control a territory and you control the resources including humans
contained there.

There have been many feuds/wars/invasions/conquests/colonisations through history right from
local feuds, vast conquests like the Romans and Mongols to colonisations like the english,
its all about territory... and what lies therin.

Today we have Russia trying to claw back territory which they deem to be theirs.
Israel taking more land from the Palestinians in the name of fighting terrorism.

wars for thousands of years were about revenge, power..
as for the recent 100 years. although promoted as one thing, were about another

EG the middle east wars from 2003-2011 were under the pretence of extremist terrorism (vengeance) but had an undertone of taking over area's of oil production

the gulf wars of the 1990's were definitely about oil but said was about land invasion by saddam

the second world war was about the nazi's although there were many other undertones and underlying reasons built into it
the first world war was about european expansion with other underlying undertones of reasons built in

Years Ago wars was about resources and power.
Now it's more likely the revenge of new generation what the another nation done to their older generation.
And long time Ago it was for wealth and resouces mostly.
Now it's more revenge but that's not solution you can not punish new generation for what the older generation done.
We all change world Changing and those who are stuck in the old and don't want adapt new mind and let go the old will make their own life more harder.
Off course those who are smart enough let other to fight in name of " revenge" and will come later buying the cheaper land getting good deals of natural resources and secretly playing on the both sides.
So until that old belief system don't change then wars not stop.
That's why it's important to let go old and focus on new and stop blame on whole nation or country for wrong doings of other people in history that's just excuse to continue endless wars it's like you revenge and after they revenge and after again you revenge and after they revenge it will be never stop.
Some countries and Nations off course will use that for their benefits while two sides fight about revenge the neutral sides must tell both sides that they have right to fight so that neutral side can manipulate with both sides secretly.

You got the point here right ?