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Topic: Was it WRONG for Win88 to discontinue their signature campaign when they did? (Read 1953 times)

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I just don't understand though how you don't see it a wrong and sneaky, that they didn't say anything til the day payments were supposed to happen?

No doubt, they could have given more advanced warning that changes were coming.  However, since you didn't actually make any September posts for them I can understand why they would see it as no harm done. 

Obviously, you perceive some harm, you were counting on the coin and maybe by planning to stay with them you had opportunity costs, such as you did not get into the dicebitco.in program that opened about that same time, and that is a real disappointment.  But I don't think that really makes what they did wrong.

Good Luck!

Yeah they could of done so, but it was kind of a sudden change for all of them it's sounding like too, after they crunched the numbers. They worked something out with me obviously as I'm wearing their signature again, and they'll help everyone else too I'm sure.

I actually got on the referral leader board, I'm excited c:
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I just don't understand though how you don't see it a wrong and sneaky, that they didn't say anything til the day payments were supposed to happen?

No doubt, they could have given more advanced warning that changes were coming.  However, since you didn't actually make any September posts for them I can understand why they would see it as no harm done. 

Obviously, you perceive some harm, you were counting on the coin and maybe by planning to stay with them you had opportunity costs, such as you did not get into the dicebitco.in program that opened about that same time, and that is a real disappointment.  But I don't think that really makes what they did wrong.

Good Luck!
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So basically they paid you upfront for your August posts but decided to not continue the program for September so they didn't make advance payments for September posts?  Is that correct?

If that's it then I'm sorry that you were relying on the September advance money and I'm sorry they were not polite about the change when you complained about it but I don't think they should be compelled to continue a program that is not working for them.

I worry that these campaigns are so abused that almost no one will be able to continue them.  Dicebitco.in suggested that 30% of the posts they audited were bogus.

Anyway, I'm sorry you didn't get coin you were counting on, but I don't think what they did was wrong, though they should have been nicer to you about it.

Thank you for an actual legit user replying.

I just don't understand though how you don't see it a wrong and sneaky, that they didn't say anything til the day payments were supposed to happen?
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So basically they paid you upfront for your August posts but decided to not continue the program for September so they didn't make advance payments for September posts?  Is that correct?

If that's it then I'm sorry that you were relying on the September advance money and I'm sorry they were not polite about the change when you complained about it but I don't think they should be compelled to continue a program that is not working for them.

I worry that these campaigns are so abused that almost no one will be able to continue them.  Dicebitco.in suggested that 30% of the posts they audited were bogus.

Anyway, I'm sorry you didn't get coin you were counting on, but I don't think what they did was wrong, though they should have been nicer to you about it.
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LOL.. Who are you talking about? Coin Prince? What? I didnt even read your post dude. Coz I just know that this one is another one of your BS. I know you want something from another site. Why you do this? You couldnt pay your debts? AGAIN?


Yes Coin princess has class, you do not.

You don't even speak proper english

Well that is because im not from the states. Ooopss.. Am i giving you a lot information already? You might know me if I talk more. Anyway, good luck to your swindling and debts. I hope you pay them on time so that no one will hate you. Cheerio!


I have one loan of five dollars out dude >.>
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LOL.. Who are you talking about? Coin Prince? What? I didnt even read your post dude. Coz I just know that this one is another one of your BS. I know you want something from another site. Why you do this? You couldnt pay your debts? AGAIN?


Yes Coin princess has class, you do not.

You don't even speak proper english

Well that is because im not from the states. Ooopss.. Am i giving you a lot information already? You might know me if I talk more. Anyway, good luck to your swindling and debts. I hope you pay them on time so that no one will hate you. Cheerio!
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LOL.. Who are you talking about? Coin Prince? What? I didnt even read your post dude. Coz I just know that this one is another one of your BS. I know you want something from another site. Why you do this? You couldnt pay your debts? AGAIN?


Yes Coin princess has class, you do not.

You don't even speak proper english
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LOL.. Who are you talking about? Coin Prince? What? I didnt even read your post dude. Coz I just know that this one is another one of your BS. I know you want something from another site. Why you do this? You couldnt pay your debts? AGAIN?
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Ooohhh... I know you jaaawsh.. And you know me. I just hate it when you do something like this again. Just like before. I mean. Are you living your life thru the BTC you earned in a bad way? You got a lot of BTC loans already.

Which I always have paid back, thus the positive trust.

Oh yeah? Then why is your profile say TRADE WITH EXTREME CAUTION and everything is red. COme on dude. You didnt pay several of them on time. Have to wait weeks to get it. I mean come on.

Lol one says that, and the other one is from Vod, which is a completely different story. I've done loads of business on the forums, unlike all these alt accounts of Win88 that are attacking me.

Yeah alts. Ok. I really hope you will mature as your friends do. If someone deals with you here? They will mess things up. I guess. And yeah, all alts are online. How did I do that? LOL  Grin Grin

I hope that they're more mature as whoever this is that making all the alts and attacking me.
I know it's not CoinPrincess, because CP has some class.
Could be someone who was paid to write nice things about Win88, and is just taking it into their own hands to attack me.

Either way, I was starting to feel a bit better about the situation after CP messaged me, right up until all this. Now I'm pissed off again.
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Well, im just posting to increase my post counts.
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Ooohhh... I know you jaaawsh.. And you know me. I just hate it when you do something like this again. Just like before. I mean. Are you living your life thru the BTC you earned in a bad way? You got a lot of BTC loans already.

Which I always have paid back, thus the positive trust.

Oh yeah? Then why is your profile say TRADE WITH EXTREME CAUTION and everything is red. COme on dude. You didnt pay several of them on time. Have to wait weeks to get it. I mean come on.

Lol one says that, and the other one is from Vod, which is a completely different story. I've done loads of business on the forums, unlike all these alt accounts of Win88 that are attacking me.

Yeah alts. Ok. I really hope you will mature as your friends do. If someone deals with you here? They will mess things up. I guess. And yeah, all alts are online. How did I do that? LOL  Grin Grin
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Ooohhh... I know you jaaawsh.. And you know me. I just hate it when you do something like this again. Just like before. I mean. Are you living your life thru the BTC you earned in a bad way? You got a lot of BTC loans already.

Which I always have paid back, thus the positive trust.

Oh yeah? Then why is your profile say TRADE WITH EXTREME CAUTION and everything is red. COme on dude. You didnt pay several of them on time. Have to wait weeks to get it. I mean come on.

Lol one says that, and the other one is from Vod, which is a completely different story. I've done loads of business on the forums, unlike all these alt accounts of Win88 that are attacking me.
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Ooohhh... I know you jaaawsh.. And you know me. I just hate it when you do something like this again. Just like before. I mean. Are you living your life thru the BTC you earned in a bad way? You got a lot of BTC loans already.

Which I always have paid back, thus the positive trust.

You are the reason why several of us got banned.
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Every single one of the newbies that has posted in this thread, is an alt account for Win88. Or someone who just hates me for some reason, but I'm leaning towards the first option because all their other posts are in Win88 threads.

I did message CP, and take away negative trust, but I'm about to put it back because I'm getting harassed by your alts.
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Ooohhh... I know you jaaawsh.. And you know me. I just hate it when you do something like this again. Just like before. I mean. Are you living your life thru the BTC you earned in a bad way? You got a lot of BTC loans already.

Which I always have paid back, thus the positive trust.

Oh yeah? Then why is your profile say TRADE WITH EXTREME CAUTION and everything is red. COme on dude. You didnt pay several of them on time. Have to wait weeks to get it. I mean come on.
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Hmmmm.. Ive read several feedback about this guy.. I believe he is making all these stuff all over again. Making a thread to get sympathy. He owe my friend BTC. He his hustling for some coins like a local gangster outside our door. Anyway, why dont you just talk admin privately and stop this? Right? Everything can be fixed by a calm discussion. You are somewhat destroying their hard earned good reputation.
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Ooohhh... I know you jaaawsh.. And you know me. I just hate it when you do something like this again. Just like before. I mean. Are you living your life thru the BTC you earned in a bad way? You got a lot of BTC loans already.

Which I always have paid back, thus the positive trust.
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Ooohhh... I know you jaaawsh.. And you know me. I just hate it when you do something like this again. Just like before. I mean. Are you living your life thru the BTC you earned in a bad way? You got a lot of BTC loans already.
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Yeah, i got a friend who said to me that I should never even bother to deal with this Jaaawsh guy. He got loans everywhere and he is not paying.
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Owwww jaaawsh you are at it again. Everytime you dont get what you want you act like this. Do you even have a job? I mean come on. Stop doing these things. You are making yourself look like a loser.

What is this, another Win88 alt account? Acting like you know me and have seen me around. Yet you have 2 posts. xD
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Owwww jaaawsh you are at it again. Everytime you dont get what you want you act like this. Do you even have a job? I mean come on. Stop doing these things. You are making yourself look like a loser.
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Mmm, not if everyone doesn't react as good as I do, like some members already have and flat out called Win88 a scam.

Hmmmm. How long did you use their signature man?

Til they just announced the changes so September 1st, wouldn't have a problem leaving it on for September if they just finish the program through september


The middle of august I was actually only paid 1/3 too, not 1/2. If we wanna get technical

So from the middle of august till now, you got the wrong sig in your link?



No actually, you buttcrack, I had the wrong referral link, it still linked to Win88 Casino, just didn't keep track of anyone I sent there, under my account.




What you are a buttcrack? you a buttcrack? I cant understand Im chinese. Where is the referral link? Can I join the affiliate program right today? I just dont think I know how to talk english.
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Nothing wrong what they did, they informed everyone first day of month.
So they don't owe to anyone, mostly campaign has rule that they can close anytime.

Like PD announced 18th August that no more below senior member ranks will be allowed.

P.S. Jawaash you are pissed because they were only campaigner who allowed negative trust member.
      You can't join other campaign.


Um does it look like I had scammer tag? Or +6 trust with black writing?
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Mmm, not if everyone doesn't react as good as I do, like some members already have and flat out called Win88 a scam.

Hmmmm. How long did you use their signature man?

Til they just announced the changes so September 1st, wouldn't have a problem leaving it on for September if they just finish the program through september


The middle of august I was actually only paid 1/3 too, not 1/2. If we wanna get technical

So from the middle of august till now, you got the wrong sig in your link?



No actually, you buttcrack, I had the wrong referral link, it still linked to Win88 Casino, just didn't keep track of anyone I sent there, under my account.


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P.S. Jawaash you are pissed because they were only campaigner who allowed negative trust member.
      You can't join other campaign.

Awwwwweeee..that is baaad. And to think he didnt even make the signature correctly. Tsk tsk.
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They paid upfront, and they now pulled it so no complaints from me.

They are going to suffer as hardly anybody is going to carry their signatures now.
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Nothing wrong what they did, they informed everyone first day of month.
So they don't owe to anyone, mostly campaign has rule that they can close anytime.

Like PD announced 18th August that no more below senior member ranks will be allowed.

P.S. Jawaash you are pissed because they were only campaigner who allowed negative trust member.
      You can't join other campaign.
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In hindsight I now understand why win88 has switched to the affiliate program.

A number of users neglected to meet the contract laid out by win88.me when they received their payment and as the saying goes a few bad apples spoils the whole bunch. What they could have done is given a small amount of warning but I believe this new affiliate program is probably best for them as well as users given that many people took full advantage of being paid before hand and not fulfilling their obligations that were clearly stated.

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Mmm, not if everyone doesn't react as good as I do, like some members already have and flat out called Win88 a scam.

Hmmmm. How long did you use their signature man?

Til they just announced the changes so September 1st, wouldn't have a problem leaving it on for September if they just finish the program through september


The middle of august I was actually only paid 1/3 too, not 1/2. If we wanna get technical

So from the middle of august till now, you got the wrong sig in your link?

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Mmm, not if everyone doesn't react as good as I do, like some members already have and flat out called Win88 a scam.

Hmmmm. How long did you use their signature man?

Til they just announced the changes so September 1st, wouldn't have a problem leaving it on for September if they just finish the program through september


The middle of august I was actually only paid 1/3 too, not 1/2. If we wanna get technical
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Mmm, not if everyone doesn't react as good as I do, like some members already have and flat out called Win88 a scam.

Hmmmm. How long did you use their signature man?

Til they just announced the changes so September 1st, wouldn't have a problem leaving it on for September if they just finish the program through september

When did you start?
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Mmm, not if everyone doesn't react as good as I do, like some members already have and flat out called Win88 a scam.

Hmmmm. How long did you use their signature man?

Til they just announced the changes so September 1st, wouldn't have a problem leaving it on for September if they just finish the program through september
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Mmm, not if everyone doesn't react as good as I do, like some members already have and flat out called Win88 a scam.

Hmmmm. How long did you use their signature man?
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i have been adverting their win88 for i think close to 9 days now.

DID NOT GET PAID A PRORATED PAYMENT(should be like .03btc since it is 1/4th of the month i was adverting).

and I did not see any indication they were changing everything completely overnight.


i will reserver my judgement until i see what happens, but i am seriously considering leaving negative feedback for not getting the prorated .03 btc and wasting 9 days adverting them.
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Mmm, not if everyone doesn't react as good as I do, like some members already have and flat out called Win88 a scam.
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Bad or Good Publicity, it is still publicity. Win88 will thank you for this. : )
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I think Win88 should have had weekly payments which would have worked out for everyone. Giving money upfront is to trusting.
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I am going to have to side with J on this one.

The way win88 carried on made it seem like signature program was going to keep running up until a few hours before they were to pay everyone. Now I'm not sure why we weren't given warning of such a change but to me I feel slightly cheated. When you run a campaign as such you must give the people you are paying advertising warning before you go ahead and change the rules like that. I had taken out a small loan and ordered a pizza today from a friend in hopes of using the BTC from the win88 campaign to repay. Now I have to find some other way to do so by today which not only stresses me out, but makes me look like even more of an asshat then I am already perceived to be on the forums. Thanks win88 for paying up front for the small amount of days you did in august.. Very commendable. But in no way does that justify nor rectify changing to an affiliate program and putting those out who were under the impression that you were going to continue on with the signature campaign... :/

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EDIT: Just look at the posts in this thread, and who they are by... almost all newbies defending Win88, with the only posts that they have in Win88 threads saying how amazing Win88 is. I wonder what that could mean? Is someone making alts???


EDIT #2: Win88 is going to do their best to make this up to us I'm sure, I talked to Coin Princess.


This is all the earlier post:
SO incase you didn't know Win88 Casino had a signature campaign for their casino, that started in the middle of August that you were paid upfront for (half the amount because it was the middle of August). This was great, I had played he a little in the past and enjoyed it, they payout if you win, they're not scammers.

Now from the time their post was up, the first post about their signature campaign, the main, or original post said: "Payments will be made for the following month of September on September 1st."

Then at September 1st around 3 AM Bitcointalk time they change their whole thing around, they no longer are a signature campaign now they are an affiliate program, that pays out like all affiliate programs: How much the people that you directly refer wager on their website.

Now they had all sorts of reasons for changing this like people abused the upfront payments (which probably happened but I saw lots of people with their signatures.. anyway..). Well if people abused it then don't pay the abusers for this this month of September.

But the thing that really pisses me off is that they acted like September payments were going to happen up until the day of the payments, then they changed it all around. I was expecting that payment, relying on it. So I'm pissed, the support was kind of a jerk to, "You're the only user who reacted like this" well it's like 3 AM forum time everyones sleeping, and then also they have an alt account posting in the signature thread too explaining to me how I am wrong.

I don't think that they should pay for nothing, I think that they should just continue the signature campaign for one more month because that's what everyone assumed was going to happen, wouldn't be a big deal if payments happened at the end of the month, but it's at the beginning of the month so now all of us who were in the Win88 campaign, and were expecting payment on the 1st for whatever reason, are not getting it.

I am not wearing their signature because as of right now there is no campaign and August is over. I wore it the entire period of August though like I was supposed to.


I'm going to repeat what I said at the top: Win88 is a legit casino.
Because they are a legit casino
They're just doing really bad business right now with users on the forums. In my opinion.
What do you think, do you think that they should continue for one more month and pay everyone like the post said up until 3 AM on the first of September?

(This was just like an hour and a half before posting this because I know some people probably set the forum to their time, but throughout the post I've been using the default time the forum gives you when you sign up)
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