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Topic: Was Titanic Sunk To Kick Start The Private Federal Reserve Debt Slavery System? (Read 4800 times)

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In an extreme survival situation, I can guarantee you that money won't save your ass. Would you have sold your limited seat for a couple of bucks?
There were open seats on the life boats. A "couple of dollars" would likely be able to make it so two people would not mind having to sit next to someone on a life boat.

Also the ship is not start evacuating for some time, and when it the ship did start to evacuate many people did not start trying to get on a lifeboat until a good amount of time. I would say that someone who could have stopped the federal reserve from being created would know enough about boats that when it clearly runs into something and the boat is being evacuated that it is a good idea to get off the boat quickly.

Sure and for this reason they disregards the procedures by removing the adequate amount of lifeboats.
They didn't have enough lifeboats because they felt that it was unsinkable. I would think in that kind of life and death situations that bribes would be commonly be accepted (especially considering the lack of recoding technology available back then making it impossible to prove that someone in charge of letting people on lifeboats accepted a bribe)
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In an extreme survival situation, I can guarantee you that money won't save your ass. Would you have sold your limited seat for a couple of bucks?
There were open seats on the life boats. A "couple of dollars" would likely be able to make it so two people would not mind having to sit next to someone on a life boat.

Also the ship is not start evacuating for some time, and when it the ship did start to evacuate many people did not start trying to get on a lifeboat until a good amount of time. I would say that someone who could have stopped the federal reserve from being created would know enough about boats that when it clearly runs into something and the boat is being evacuated that it is a good idea to get off the boat quickly.

Sure and for this reason they disregards the procedures by removing the adequate amount of lifeboats.

They also must have saved expenses when hiring the gung-ho captain. Wink
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In an extreme survival situation, I can guarantee you that money won't save your ass. Would you have sold your limited seat for a couple of bucks?
There were open seats on the life boats. A "couple of dollars" would likely be able to make it so two people would not mind having to sit next to someone on a life boat.

Also the ship is not start evacuating for some time, and when it the ship did start to evacuate many people did not start trying to get on a lifeboat until a good amount of time. I would say that someone who could have stopped the federal reserve from being created would know enough about boats that when it clearly runs into something and the boat is being evacuated that it is a good idea to get off the boat quickly.

Sure and for this reason they disregards the procedures by removing the adequate amount of lifeboats.
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In an extreme survival situation, I can guarantee you that money won't save your ass. Would you have sold your limited seat for a couple of bucks?
There were open seats on the life boats. A "couple of dollars" would likely be able to make it so two people would not mind having to sit next to someone on a life boat.

Also the ship is not start evacuating for some time, and when it the ship did start to evacuate many people did not start trying to get on a lifeboat until a good amount of time. I would say that someone who could have stopped the federal reserve from being created would know enough about boats that when it clearly runs into something and the boat is being evacuated that it is a good idea to get off the boat quickly.
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This is extremely far-fetched isn't? Think about it, this is at the same level or above the level of inside 9/11 job. I still claim whoever trully believes any of that is as delusional as it gets. Sure, there are hiden agendas, but you are overstretching it by a mile with these ridiculous conspiracy theories on there.
I agree. To say the least this is extremely far fetched. If you ignore the fact that someone would not want to murder thousands of people to start the federal reserve, there are plenty or arguments as to why this would not work in the first place
Care to present some of those arguments?
This has been said a few times above, but I guess it is worth repeating: anyone with enough power to stop the federal reserve from being created would have the power to get their ass on a half full life boat that was being deployed into the ocean.

In an extreme survival situation, I can guarantee you that money won't save your ass. Would you have sold your limited seat for a couple of bucks?

Another argument that anyone with the above power would likely have a 1st class ticket and the percentage of 1st class passengers that died on the Titantic is much lower then "3rd class" ticket holders. (this also strengthens the above point).

It is still worth the try to kill at least a couple of random opponents. Scarifying an insured ship to increase your chance to achieve the creation of the FED is still a pretty good deal IMO.
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This is extremely far-fetched isn't? Think about it, this is at the same level or above the level of inside 9/11 job. I still claim whoever trully believes any of that is as delusional as it gets. Sure, there are hiden agendas, but you are overstretching it by a mile with these ridiculous conspiracy theories on there.
I agree. To say the least this is extremely far fetched. If you ignore the fact that someone would not want to murder thousands of people to start the federal reserve, there are plenty or arguments as to why this would not work in the first place
Care to present some of those arguments?
This has been said a few times above, but I guess it is worth repeating: anyone with enough power to stop the federal reserve from being created would have the power to get their ass on a half full life boat that was being deployed into the ocean.

Another argument that anyone with the above power would likely have a 1st class ticket and the percentage of 1st class passengers that died on the Titantic is much lower then "3rd class" ticket holders. (this also strengthens the above point).
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Yet another conspiracy theory.

For year there are talks about that titanic didnt sink, that it was some other ship.
To many TV shows made on this theme, recent was on Discovery channel regarding this.
Also many news articles about this was made in several newspapers.

What is truth i dont think that anyone knows so if some1 dig up wreckage of sink ship we will now for sure.

Conspiration theorist simply update their theories: titanic didnt sink. it was some other ship. or 911 hijacked airliners didn't crash on WTC & Pentagon and landed at some undisclosed location. Remotely piloted Wide-Body Aircraft crashed against WTCs & Pentagon instead. Just change the settings & transport means for people and the work is done.
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If you list out the theories on the Titanic sinking, it would probably fill a book. Smiley
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Yet another conspiracy theory.

For year there are talks about that titanic didnt sink, that it was some other ship.
To many TV shows made on this theme, recent was on Discovery channel regarding this.
Also many news articles about this was made in several newspapers.

What is truth i dont think that anyone knows so if some1 dig up wreckage of sink ship we will now for sure.

Conspiration theorist simply update their theories: titanic didnt sink. it was some other ship. or 911 hijacked airliners didn't crash on WTC & Pentagon and landed at some undisclosed location. Remotely piloted Wide-Body Aircraft crashed against WTCs & Pentagon instead. Just change the settings & transport means for people and the work is done.
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This is extremely far-fetched isn't? Think about it, this is at the same level or above the level of inside 9/11 job. I still claim whoever trully believes any of that is as delusional as it gets. Sure, there are hiden agendas, but you are overstretching it by a mile with these ridiculous conspiracy theories on there.
I agree. To say the least this is extremely far fetched. If you ignore the fact that someone would not want to murder thousands of people to start the federal reserve, there are plenty or arguments as to why this would not work in the first place
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This is extremely far-fetched isn't? Think about it, this is at the same level or above the level of inside 9/11 job. I still claim whoever trully believes any of that is as delusional as it gets. Sure, there are hiden agendas, but you are overstretching it by a mile with these ridiculous conspiracy theories on there.
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Another, but much stronger point is the fact that anyone in a position to oppose the federal reserve system would likely be in a position to have priority in boarding the lifeboats so the chances of him dying would have been small in the event the ship were to sink in the way the titanic did.
Bingo!

Anyone that would have the influence that could stop the federal reserve from starting would certainly have the influence to get a seat on a lifeboat.
I would agree with this as well. I don't think that anyone would could prevent the FED from coming into existence would not have the ability or the common sense to be able to get their ass on a life boat.

Sure because buying a life boat is easy when you have none and you are in the middle of the Atlantic  Roll Eyes
There were life boats on the titantic (there were a very limited supply, but there were still some).

I think if someone has the ability to stop the FED from coming into existence they would probably have enough money to "buy" a seat on a lifeboat
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Another, but much stronger point is the fact that anyone in a position to oppose the federal reserve system would likely be in a position to have priority in boarding the lifeboats so the chances of him dying would have been small in the event the ship were to sink in the way the titanic did.
Bingo!

Anyone that would have the influence that could stop the federal reserve from starting would certainly have the influence to get a seat on a lifeboat.
I would agree with this as well. I don't think that anyone would could prevent the FED from coming into existence would not have the ability or the common sense to be able to get their ass on a life boat.

Sure because buying a life boat is easy when you have none and you are in the middle of the Atlantic  Roll Eyes
There were lifeboats available. It was just that there were not enough for everyone. There were a lot of men who survived the titantic because they were on a life boat.

And why do you think there was not enough life boat? This simple fact is strengthening the assumption that the ship was sunken intentionally IMO.  
According to the movie it was because they did not want to use the space. You should remember that most of the people on the life boats were people that held "first class" tickets. Also it was reported that many boats were not full when they were "launched" from the titantic so someone could have easily talked their way on if they had the skills to influence others
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Another, but much stronger point is the fact that anyone in a position to oppose the federal reserve system would likely be in a position to have priority in boarding the lifeboats so the chances of him dying would have been small in the event the ship were to sink in the way the titanic did.
Bingo!

Anyone that would have the influence that could stop the federal reserve from starting would certainly have the influence to get a seat on a lifeboat.
I would agree with this as well. I don't think that anyone would could prevent the FED from coming into existence would not have the ability or the common sense to be able to get their ass on a life boat.

Sure because buying a life boat is easy when you have none and you are in the middle of the Atlantic  Roll Eyes
There were lifeboats available. It was just that there were not enough for everyone. There were a lot of men who survived the titantic because they were on a life boat.

And why do you think there was not enough life boat? This simple fact is strengthening the assumption that the ship was sunken intentionally IMO.  
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Another, but much stronger point is the fact that anyone in a position to oppose the federal reserve system would likely be in a position to have priority in boarding the lifeboats so the chances of him dying would have been small in the event the ship were to sink in the way the titanic did.
Bingo!

Anyone that would have the influence that could stop the federal reserve from starting would certainly have the influence to get a seat on a lifeboat.
I would agree with this as well. I don't think that anyone would could prevent the FED from coming into existence would not have the ability or the common sense to be able to get their ass on a life boat.

Sure because buying a life boat is easy when you have none and you are in the middle of the Atlantic  Roll Eyes
There were lifeboats available. It was just that there were not enough for everyone. There were a lot of men who survived the titantic because they were on a life boat.
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Another, but much stronger point is the fact that anyone in a position to oppose the federal reserve system would likely be in a position to have priority in boarding the lifeboats so the chances of him dying would have been small in the event the ship were to sink in the way the titanic did.
Bingo!

Anyone that would have the influence that could stop the federal reserve from starting would certainly have the influence to get a seat on a lifeboat.
I would agree with this as well. I don't think that anyone would could prevent the FED from coming into existence would not have the ability or the common sense to be able to get their ass on a life boat.

Sure because buying a life boat is easy when you have none and you are in the middle of the Atlantic  Roll Eyes
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Another, but much stronger point is the fact that anyone in a position to oppose the federal reserve system would likely be in a position to have priority in boarding the lifeboats so the chances of him dying would have been small in the event the ship were to sink in the way the titanic did.
Bingo!

Anyone that would have the influence that could stop the federal reserve from starting would certainly have the influence to get a seat on a lifeboat.
I would agree with this as well. I don't think that anyone would could prevent the FED from coming into existence would not have the ability or the common sense to be able to get their ass on a life boat.
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Another, but much stronger point is the fact that anyone in a position to oppose the federal reserve system would likely be in a position to have priority in boarding the lifeboats so the chances of him dying would have been small in the event the ship were to sink in the way the titanic did.
Bingo!

Anyone that would have the influence that could stop the federal reserve from starting would certainly have the influence to get a seat on a lifeboat.
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I personally think it would be highly unlikely this would prove to be true. There were not advanced navigation system available back then so it would be very unlikely they would even know where iceburgs would be to potentially be able to run into one.

You don't need advance radars to know that there are icebergs in a respecting zone.
They may have known about the icebergs in a specific part of the ocean, however the ship made a specific maneuver that was intended to avoid the iceberg, and did almost succeed. I don't think ships would be able to navigate with the level of precision to purposefully collide with an iceberg when they were that close to avoiding it.

Another, but much stronger point is the fact that anyone in a position to oppose the federal reserve system would likely be in a position to have priority in boarding the lifeboats so the chances of him dying would have been small in the event the ship were to sink in the way the titanic did.
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So basically:

1. John Pierpoint (JP) Morgan is getting involved with the creation of The Federal Reserve Bank.
2. High profile opponents getting on Titanic's board to go protest against the FED creation.  
3. JP Morgan owning the White Star company then calls Titanic's captain to make pressure on him to go full speed in a high risk iceberg zone.
4. Crossed finger.  

Seems very plausible IMO. If I were JP Morgan, I would have done the exact same thing. I don't think that was completely planned in advance but more like a "right on time" opportunity to get rid of your opponents. JP Morgan would have been stupid to not take that opportunity considering that these people have no moral at all.

when you put it like this, it's not that far-fetched.

I wouldn't call it a certainty though, but it could have been that it went something like this.

history is always a guessing game

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So basically:

1. John Pierpoint (JP) Morgan is getting involved with the creation of The Federal Reserve Bank.
2. High profile opponents getting on Titanic's board to go protest against the FED creation.  
3. JP Morgan owning the White Star company then calls Titanic's captain to make pressure on him to go full speed in a high risk iceberg zone.
4. Crossed finger.  

Seems very plausible IMO. If I were JP Morgan, I would have done the exact same thing. I don't think that was completely planned in advance but more like a "right on time" opportunity to get rid of your opponents. JP Morgan would have been stupid to not take that opportunity considering that these people have no moral at all.
Do you have any sources to backup #2?

The guy doing the presentation probably have some source for making that claim. I didn't watched it though but the FED creation having no opponents at all is just impossible. Powers that be always need to fight to keep and grow their position.

I personally think it would be highly unlikely this would prove to be true. There were not advanced navigation system available back then so it would be very unlikely they would even know where iceburgs would be to potentially be able to run into one.

You don't need advance radars to know that there are icebergs in a respecting zone.
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So basically:

1. John Pierpoint (JP) Morgan is getting involved with the creation of The Federal Reserve Bank.
2. High profile opponents getting on Titanic's board to go protest against the FED creation.  
3. JP Morgan owning the White Star company then calls Titanic's captain to make pressure on him to go full speed in a high risk iceberg zone.
4. Crossed finger.  

Seems very plausible IMO. If I were JP Morgan, I would have done the exact same thing. I don't think that was completely planned in advance but more like a "right on time" opportunity to get rid of your opponents. JP Morgan would have been stupid to not take that opportunity considering that these people have no moral at all.
Do you have any sources to backup #2?

I personally think it would be highly unlikely this would prove to be true. There were not advanced navigation system available back then so it would be very unlikely they would even know where iceburgs would be to potentially be able to run into one.

The Olympic was built before and sailed the route before the Titanic. I'd assume that they would have known about icebergs.
Also they had a lookout post from which they did visual observations.
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http://youtu.be/S9v2hhyHWLI


Interesting video

Im convinced that titanic was sunk to kill the top opposition to the federal reserve system and to cash in on an insurance scheme.


Convinced? No. Is it possible, Yes. The movie 1984 was considered science fiction for most of it's existence. Now, thanks to a few brave souls the World is aware the movie is actually reality in many forms, with world governments abusing the rights of citizens in many countries. After the laundry list of conspiracy theories that have been proven factual,  more and more people who rely on the government controlled mainstream media for their worldly knowledge are being ignored for lack of critical thinking ability.


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So basically:

1. John Pierpoint (JP) Morgan is getting involved with the creation of The Federal Reserve Bank.
2. High profile opponents getting on Titanic's board to go protest against the FED creation.  
3. JP Morgan owning the White Star company then calls Titanic's captain to make pressure on him to go full speed in a high risk iceberg zone.
4. Crossed finger.  

Seems very plausible IMO. If I were JP Morgan, I would have done the exact same thing. I don't think that was completely planned in advance but more like a "right on time" opportunity to get rid of your opponents. JP Morgan would have been stupid to not take that opportunity considering that these people have no moral at all.
Do you have any sources to backup #2?

I personally think it would be highly unlikely this would prove to be true. There were not advanced navigation system available back then so it would be very unlikely they would even know where iceburgs would be to potentially be able to run into one.
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So basically:

1. John Pierpoint (JP) Morgan is getting involved with the creation of The Federal Reserve Bank.
2. High profile opponents getting on Titanic's board to go protest against the FED creation.  
3. JP Morgan owning the White Star company then calls Titanic's captain to make pressure on him to go full speed in a high risk iceberg zone.
4. Crossed finger.  

Seems very plausible IMO. If I were JP Morgan, I would have done the exact same thing. I don't think that was completely planned in advance but more like a "right on time" opportunity to get rid of your opponents. JP Morgan would have been stupid to not take that opportunity considering that these people have no moral at all.
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http://youtu.be/S9v2hhyHWLI


Interesting video

Im convinced that titanic was sunk to kill the top opposition to the federal reserve system and to cash in on an insurance scheme.

If there is no testable hypothesis, then it can not be proved false. If something can not be false then it can not be true.
That is a good analytical way of looking at it. Either way the OP is really nothing more then promoting a crazy conspiracy theory. I do enjoy reading about a good conspiracy theory, but it needs to be at least somewhat realistic and this is not.
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http://youtu.be/S9v2hhyHWLI


Interesting video

Im convinced that titanic was sunk to kill the top opposition to the federal reserve system and to cash in on an insurance scheme.

If there is no testable hypothesis, then it can not be proved false. If something can not be false then it can not be true.
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I'm leaning towards no to be honest.  The idea is intriguing I'll admit but I'm not sure how such an elaborate scheme would have been orchestrated.  Anything is possible I'm just not a believer of this conspiracy theory at all.
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Have to admit this is pretty interesting but again this is just another conspiracy theory that I personally feel may never be proven to be anything other especially this long after it happened.
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Next thing you're gonna be going on in circles about grassy knolls. Yeah right.

Did the Lusitania sink itself? Did the South Korean Ferry sink intentionally? Why do they put the do not remove tag on mattresses? Did somebody 'shoot down' that one Malaysian flight? Are there any horse socks?

To a conspiracy theorist any motivation, even hostile, is better than confronting human fragility.


Typical blind CNN lover, ignore anything that scares me and make fun of it.
This may be a little off topic, but on the 100 year anniversary of the titanic sinking CNN had a story about the titanic and had a "breaking news" banner that said the titanic had sunk 100 years ago.

I also have my iPod named the titanic so whenever I plug it into my computer iTunes says "the titanic is syncing"

On a more serious note you are crazy for thinking there is any connection between the federal reserve and the titanic sinking. There is no evidence to support this and there is no connection between these two events.
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I heard it was an iceberg.

Seriously, why you post this?  There are real issues with the Federal Reserve and the banking system in the US and stuff like this makes critics look like crackpots.
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Pretty interesting viewpoint, even tho it seems like conspiracy to me.
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Next thing you're gonna be going on in circles about grassy knolls. Yeah right.

Did the Lusitania sink itself? Did the South Korean Ferry sink intentionally? Why do they put the do not remove tag on mattresses? Did somebody 'shoot down' that one Malaysian flight? Are there any horse socks?

To a conspiracy theorist any motivation, even hostile, is better than confronting human fragility.


Typical blind CNN lover, ignore anything that scares me and make fun of it.

CNN at keast can claim fair adn balance unlike faux news.
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I'd wondered about that before and the book "Futility" is a little too close for coincidence, don't think its something we'll ever be able to know for sure at this stage though. The Hindenberg's another interesting one, way more efficient for air freight than planes and an ideal method for transporting energy but no company would dare go near hydrogen airships even after 77 years.

This threads another of those that the "its a conspiracy theory therefore its wrong" argument is being used too, conspiracies have played a huge part in history and continue to do so. Invisible lizards running the world might be pushing the boundaries of credibility but there's something not quite right about 144 tons of Libyas gold going missing after 'rebels' gave their central bank to the Rockefellers...

Such a great system they have created.. anyone mentions ANYTHING that is against the norm and scares them they just bust out "YOU ARE A CRAZY CONSPIRACY THEORIST!!! You believe the earth is hollow and lizzards rule the planet you are  a moron"...  So many sheep.. soo many stupid sheep on this planet it hurts.. The best part is they talk  about critical thinking like they actually do it... 99.99999% of people need to be hosptialized by bitch slapping for being so lazy.
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Next thing you're gonna be going on in circles about grassy knolls. Yeah right.

Did the Lusitania sink itself? Did the South Korean Ferry sink intentionally? Why do they put the do not remove tag on mattresses? Did somebody 'shoot down' that one Malaysian flight? Are there any horse socks?

To a conspiracy theorist any motivation, even hostile, is better than confronting human fragility.


Typical blind CNN lover, ignore anything that scares me and make fun of it.
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Next thing you're gonna be going on in circles about grassy knolls. Yeah right.

Did the Lusitania sink itself? Did the South Korean Ferry sink intentionally? Why do they put the do not remove tag on mattresses? Did somebody 'shoot down' that one Malaysian flight? Are there any horse socks?

To a conspiracy theorist any motivation, even hostile, is better than confronting human fragility.
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Yet another conspiracy theory.

For year there are talks about that titanic didnt sink, that it was some other ship.
To many TV shows made on this theme, recent was on Discovery channel regarding this.
Also many news articles about this was made in several newspapers.

What is truth i dont think that anyone knows so if some1 dig up wreckage of sink ship we will now for sure.
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http://youtu.be/S9v2hhyHWLI


Interesting video

Im convinced that titanic was sunk to kill the top opposition to the federal reserve system and to cash in on an insurance scheme.
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