Topic: We need to change our mindset (Read 535 times)

Issue on this forum is spam and plagiarism not rank 


This forum make money too. Look at ads.

people understand that!! but the mindset of everyone is different, when someone comes in to just make few comments due to bounty it becomes part of the eco system!! you can't add a certain type of program in the chat and expect not to get such, it is now a public place and you must be ready for the different type of characters you will find now!! few moderators to handle the high volumes daily

I have seen too the other threads that merit again were being discussed. I cannot bare to see another newbie complaining and started a thread just to get merits. And the ending is that one has only deprive to get for merit source has ignore a newbie that would always do complain in the forum. Anyway, good for them for I was also like them but I am learning the process.

Changing mindset would be the best way to deal with other users here in the forum. One can get huge help even in just sharing basic knowledge and ideas to the newbies. This will create a good atmosphere also to the forum to avoid being labeled as spammer or shit poster.

merit and rank system is overrated, i dont look at the rank of poster in this forum, and i dont care about signatures.

I'm happy this thread is the first I actually read into!

I made this account a little while ago (a month or so maybe) just thinking this to be "another" bitcoin forum.  I had no idea about the account level-up/signature system until recently.

Surprise surprise, here I am now!  Need that sweet passive revenue!  The content here alone is worth sticking around for tho, huh, who would have guessed?

What I mean is, of course the majority of "quality" posters here are here with money on their minds.  There is absolutely nothing wrong with that.  Income is needed for great things to happen, on some level.

Personally, I have shilled a thing or two I am not proud of but I realized my "mission" (ALONGSIDE getting all my sweet cryptoprofits and helping my friends/fam) is to TRY to educate new crypto users both online and off, or at the very least spread awareness about. (actually working on a cool little FREE FOREVER telegram/discord group....DM me if interested haha).  I would never shill something I haven't at least vetted to some degree, of course.  Not my style.  Right now I am just an avid knowledge-seeker, so I look forward to some good late-night conversation after a long day on the cryptomarkets *24/7 we know crypto don't sleep.

Currently I enjoy researching ICOs that I think may have a potential use case, writing about my findings, and probably posting them to all of you fine people.  If it seems appropriate.

On a related note, I think the online cryptocommunity IN GENERAL is becoming very elitist and toxic, which to me feels counterproductive.  Shouldn't we want the world to have access to crypto?  I can imagine how it feels to ask an honest question or ask for an opinion from someone respected only to be met with nothing more than "DYOR, BTFD, HODL" or my favorites "Never sell at a loss" or "Need strong hands".  So helpful with something that is meant to be globally accepted and used.  Keep spreading that good knowledge, crypto truth seekers....you know who you are 

Confession/introduction over, thanks for reading, and hello

What they're probably looking to see is if you have a bought/hacked account.

I took a peek myself and it looks crazy weird that you took a 4 year hiatus to the day from the forum despite being here to earn money.

If you had kept up you would be in possession of a Hero/Legendary account and would have earned a significant amount.

peculiar to say the least.

If you are looking for any specific info, just mention. I will tell you here or PM you. I don't want people like you wasting time  

Hello, seems you can read people's mind. Not bad.
You were active before the merit system. Do you know you have created 4 threads till now, 3 of those are this kind of.




Thanks for making me understood that both of us did attempt to gain merit but failed 

They should learn about the forum structures, functions, basic rules, helpful topics on essential stuffs, like those ones:
[Tips] Guide for forum search
Unofficial rules of bitcointalk forum
and  a lot more topics, which you should find them by yourself and for your interests.

It's necessary for every new member to have a look around the forum first and not just having money at the fore front. When I fist joined I got here because all my friends were here and with time I learnt I could earn money but before then I was a bit conversant with the forum and for that I am always grateful. For knowledge acquired from here and money as well

No matter what people set their mindset like learning/gaining information to earn merit and after that it will be set again to earning money after gaining enough useful information that is meritable, after all we are discussing cryptocurrency which is why bitcointalk is created base on bitcoin which is cryptocurrency as we know it.

Why do you think he is trying to get merits this way? He is just concerned about what is happening to this forum. Yes, many people are here just to earn money. We must ensure that this does not become our only purpose of being on this forum. And as many here already said, we have to change ourselves first.

In my opinion, they're reflecting to other posts (maybe yours). This is not a fresh issue. If you wanted to solve this problem, please start with yours. Post some good threads then we will see. It would be reflected like a mirror.

Having a passive income, why not? Love to earning while learning. We need to see in a different way, that's how mindset would be changed I guess. Stay cool! 

I think the fact that mindset is in the singular in the title is indicative of something. I don't think that the members of Bitcoin Talk have a single mindset, but that there is a rich variety of experience and knowledge here. Unfortunately the new members do hve a single mindset, and this is why I think their posting abilities should be restricted until the forum feels that they can be trusted to post on the main boards.

Great, you're part of the shitposting posse responsible for ruining the level of discussion.  You realize the problem and admitted you're part of it--so take a hike.

OP is obviously using the sophisticated merit begging technique we've seen so many times, and his post is fairly poorly-written as well.  Telling other people to vaguely change their attitude whilst attempting to conceal his true purpose of earning merit is aggravating.  Just go away.

Hmmm...I'll have to take a look at his post history.

Honestly, I only joined this forum to make money. Unfortunately I don't think this is the best place to actually learn about crypto, due to the fact that the majority of posts here are just people trying to earn money.

I much rather learn about crypto on other forums, and group messaging apps because these places don't directly pay out it's members for posting, so I feel like most posts are more-or-less genuine. Of course, you will still have people shilling their coins because they've bought in and need the price to rise, but that will occur everywhere. I just feel that in other places you're not really 'required' to post to gain activity or merits, so the posts that you do read are written by people truly passionate about what they are writing.

Here, unfortunately you have a quota to fill- you need to post to increase your activity number, you need a certain number of posts to stay active in bounties, you need good posts to gain merit. There's just too much 'forced activity' in my opinion, and this definitely results in the quality of posts being diluted.

For example, if I encountered the original post on a different site I'd quickly read through it, and say to myself "yeah, you know... He's right about this, but I don't agree with everything". I'd maybe thumb up or like the post, then move on, I definitely wouldn't think anyone would need to or care enough to hear my opinion on the matter. Here, I read the post and thought to myself "hey, I have an opinion on this matter, I can share it and increase my activity rating!".

Don't get me wrong, I do like being able to talk/read about crypto and gain crypto for doing so, but I also understand that basically every other post I read is from someone also trying to increase their activity/merit rating.

People's first motive why they join bitcoin is to earn money.  They don't came here to learn.  Let's face it.  But as they go along the way, they began to learn more and they acquire knowledge pertaining to bitcoin.  They also learn how to improve their english skills as it is needed here.  They keep on exploring and studying about bitcoin so they can relate it to the forum.  With regards to changing mindset,  it is their choice.  They have their own perspective and priority.  For me, it goes together.  You learn at the same time you earn.

You might be wrong at some extent!
Shitposters don't not only contribute to dump the general quality of forum threads, but also massively create common dissapointed feelings from users (both old ones and newcomers).
No one want to see their shitshows everywhere in the forum, which in turn make readers really hard to find informative threads for their needs.

In my opinion, the correlations between forum traffic, shitposters, and forum threads' quality are mututal ones.

It's normal to see people want to earn money from different way but yeah , the way they do are ignore post quality which made the forum's quality down.
But in other side, forum traffic increase and for who spend their money to advertise on this forum do not stupid ,right ? Becayse they see forum in different way !

Its because shitposters coming from some specific countries are spending time on this forum doing some bounties and other other methods of begging for shittoken airdrops in order to get paid. They dont want to educated themselves to get a real job.

Actually merit is hard to gather for the newbies and shitposters. But even though it may seem "easy" for established older members, it is not easy at all. The main problem with merit is that it tries to address a problem (of spam and shitposts) by another system which is susceptible to abuse via merit trades.


The shitposters will never change their mindset. For them this is "free money" and in my time spend on this forum I have often come across this phrase from shitposters : "who does not like free money" - How do you expect such scumbags to improve their mindset?

Yet another failed attempt of getting Merits by showing concern about the forum and its purpose.
I'm really tired of them now.


P.S: Change yourself first, and don't ask others to not do something that you are doing yourself. It makes you look bad, not good.

 
I agree with your opinion, some people do not stop it because it is big problem this time I am not sure but if everyone wanted to solve this problem so I think one-day solved possibly.

I agree with what you are saying but if you are asking for others to change their mindset? I don't think it will happen in an instant or even in 1 -2 months. Lets admit it that more people are coming here on the forum for the purpose of earning instead of learning.

In my opinion, I don't think that we should encourage others to change their mindsets because it will be useless. Even though you have posted this, nothing will happen. There are some people who are joining in the campaigns and at the same time, posting good posts while there are others who are just posting their links on the bounty campaign, social media reports in particular. Let them be

yes need to change our mind/thinking, not only joining & earning money this bitcointalk base forum, many people join bitcointalk only for earning some money, many people are very lazy They are do not try to learn and help others people, very sad this thinking  

Thanks for having a look at my posts. Of course, I'm also here for money but this thread is about change the mindset, I mean we shouldn't only focus on earning money rather we need to cooperate people.

Edit- Learning or cooperating is not secondary. It is the core purpose of a forum.
Earning is the secondary.

Hi, pkmoney,
I am glad to hear that after 4years and 6months of your membership here in bitcointalk you finally realized to change your mindset. However, upon checking your latest post(s), I was a bit disappointed to see some:



Let us face the reality that most people are here to earn money; you can also admit it to yourself. We cannot help them by changing their mindsets, different people with dissimilar reason(s). I need knowledge to earn money, so earning is the core why we are here. We just need to shift things on how we will gain our earnings. Bitcoin is a decentralized technology, which is freedom. Spammers will just go away soon, because of "merit and rank up".

Nice to know you, mate. See you around.

Happy Pizza Day!
Here is the blockchain transaction:  
https://blockchain.info/tx/a1075db55d416d3ca199f55b6084e2115b9345e16c5cf302fc80e9d5fbf5d48d

After watching a lot of threads, I think we specially the newbies should have clear idea about bitcointalk.org, that's why I'm trying to pointing out those which may change your mindset and help you to be an asset of the forum.

A common issue on the forum is "merit and rank up".

Most of us are too disappointed with the new merit system because it seems too hard (though it is not hard enough)
An example- https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/5-lists-for-merit-earners-initial-merit-drop-to-the-next-recognized-rank-4104852


So, what is bitcointalk?
It is a forum, we all know. And what it means actually?

It is an example only, there are a lot of threads related to it.
You are joining a forum for earning only? Make sense? You don't actually deserve a place here on the forum.

We need to change our mindset, we should take bitcointalk as a place of gathering knowledge, sharing your views, not a place of earning only.

Thanks