We should start looking into Altcoins

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Quote from: Adbitco on December 02, 2023, 01:41:37 PM

Quote from: crwth on November 25, 2023, 01:41:59 PM

How can we see it happening when it "eventually" starts pouring to the top altcoins? What's your evidence for it?

Does a 2.1% rise in price (at the time of posting) of SOL mean that it came from BTC, of the volume?
Does a 1.5% rise in price (at the time of posting) of LINK mean that it came from BTC, of the volume?

It's hard to determine where it came from and we need to verify it at times. It's best that you find ways to show why it is happening and if it already happened.

I think if I could speaking directly to what op is saying is that he is trying to figure out that the increase in bitcoin this moment is what giving those coin listed a positive movement, and like I sense to be whenever the market terms to Green all top coin that follows the directions of bitcoin also gain more energy to change in price.
There's nothing much affecting those coin he speaking in particular just a little but still that shouldn't mean we won't look into reputable coin other than those he listed we can as well acquire more BTC at this moment because the price currently shows a good signal that BTC will hit unpredictable price.

It should be considered that a lot of altcoins are being driven up because of their exchange rates with BTC. It's more likely to increase in price and that's a good thing for us in general. Quantifying on the other hand would be even more problematic. Shocked

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Quote from: Kensure on November 23, 2023, 09:29:48 AM

The Liquidity pouring into BTC will eventually start pouring into top altcoins and we can already see it happening with likes of $SOL , LINK , $INJ etc making massive moves !

The obvious play here is to learn and leverage on top altcoins to buy

For long term? Why will you only hunt if the price has started to rise? Is it because you are worried when the price drops more than this? Hmmm, actually for some of the top altcoins, we were able to pay them in installments from the really bearish period at that time because the prices were still really down. but for now it has started to rise. If you want, just do it, but make sure it is a top koi that really has potential. Although there are no guarantees, some coins seem to be worth it. Like ETH, BNB, Matic, SOL, ADA and XRP. But this is not financial and investment advice. DYOR so you don't regret it. But actually, focus also on Bitcoin because this is the main thing

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Quote from: Adreman23 on December 02, 2023, 08:42:51 AM

While historical patterns show Bitcoin pumps often followed by altcoin pumps, it's crucial to acknowledge the inherent risk. Making informed decisions involves understanding when and which altcoin to leverage. Mistakes can happen, such as anticipating the end of a Bitcoin pump, investing in an altcoin, only to see Bitcoin continue its rise, causing the altcoin to decline.

Altcoins are very profitable and one of the ways we can make profits from the is when we invest in them. Altcoins can give more profits than investing in Bitcoin. We don't need to underestimate any project or coin because we don't know what could happen next in the market wonwe must be ready to buy and hold for when the right time comes for us to make profits from the market.
There are people that had made huge profits from altcoins than Bitcoin so we don't need to be blind ignoring the opportunity we might get investing in altcoins.

However you cannot blindly ignore the risks of investing in those coins either, it is true that there are many people that have made way more money with altcoins than what they could have made with bitcoin, but we must not forget there is way more people that lost everything or most of their capital, and their losses are so severe that it will take nothing short of a miracle for them to recover the money they have lost, and this means that unless you are completely sure about your strategy and the altcoin in which you invested then it may be a better idea to be more cautious when investing in those coins.

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Quote from: Adreman23 on December 02, 2023, 08:42:51 AM

While historical patterns show Bitcoin pumps often followed by altcoin pumps, it's crucial to acknowledge the inherent risk. Making informed decisions involves understanding when and which altcoin to leverage. Mistakes can happen, such as anticipating the end of a Bitcoin pump, investing in an altcoin, only to see Bitcoin continue its rise, causing the altcoin to decline.

Altcoins are very profitable and one of the ways we can make profits from the is when we invest in them. Altcoins can give more profits than investing in Bitcoin. We don't need to underestimate any project or coin because we don't know what could happen next in the market wonwe must be ready to buy and hold for when the right time comes for us to make profits from the market.
There are people that had made huge profits from altcoins than Bitcoin so we don't need to be blind ignoring the opportunity we might get investing in altcoins.

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Don't compare bitcoin and altcoins because the only safetyfull and high return profits investment in bitcoin. Another think your investment is very expensive safety in bitcoin but if you want buy altcoins then you should start buy from starting of bull run. So no need to mention a coin because here in different investors community who like different coin.

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Quote from: jrrsparkles on November 23, 2023, 05:26:35 PM

There is no certainty that it will happen, even though if we assume it will happen for sure still we don't know what coin so we need to choose multiple coins and hope that the surge in BTC prices will reflect on them too. It isn't smart in my opinion. If you feel bitcoin is moving then the better choice is to invest in bitcoin and hold it until it reaches your goal price.

You should never invest in crypto just because the bitcoin is bullish and if you really want to take the risk then its purely gamble and odds are pretty less on your side.

Surge in bitcoin can cause surge in altcoins but don't forget that all altcoins are not going to increase in price because in such circumstances there will be more coins releasing for getting cash because all originated coins are not trusted but some of them become scam after gathering of money from people. Investigation under such condition is must therefore choose those coins which are older like Ethereum and bitcoin.

Bitcoin investment can be done easily as there is a clear history in front of us which suggests that no other coin can ever take place of bitcoin. Altcoins are risky investment but as bitcoin will increase so trustworthy altcoins can also move according to such effects therefore hold altcoins like Ethereum and Link.

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Quote from: crwth on November 25, 2023, 01:41:59 PM

How can we see it happening when it "eventually" starts pouring to the top altcoins? What's your evidence for it?

Does a 2.1% rise in price (at the time of posting) of SOL mean that it came from BTC, of the volume?
Does a 1.5% rise in price (at the time of posting) of LINK mean that it came from BTC, of the volume?

It's hard to determine where it came from and we need to verify it at times. It's best that you find ways to show why it is happening and if it already happened.

I think if I could speaking directly to what op is saying is that he is trying to figure out that the increase in bitcoin this moment is what giving those coin listed a positive movement, and like I sense to be whenever the market terms to Green all top coin that follows the directions of bitcoin also gain more energy to change in price.
There's nothing much affecting those coin he speaking in particular just a little but still that shouldn't mean we won't look into reputable coin other than those he listed we can as well acquire more BTC at this moment because the price currently shows a good signal that BTC will hit unpredictable price.

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Quote from: Kensure on November 23, 2023, 09:29:48 AM

The Liquidity pouring into BTC will eventually start pouring into top altcoins and we can already see it happening with likes of $SOL , LINK , $INJ etc making massive moves !

The obvious play here is to learn and leverage on top altcoins to buy

Indeed, the liquidity that flows into Bitcoin may subsequently be distributed to the top altcoins, and coins such as $SOL, LINK, $INJ, and others may see significant growth. This is because investors, having profited from Bitcoin, may decide to diversify their portfolio by investing in other promising assets.

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Another two-liner without coming up with a conclusion is why anyone should look into altcoins without providing reasons. I somehow do not understand why should anyone create a topic just for creating a topic without putting any reason to the argument.

Coming back to the topic obviously, everyone who cannot afford to buy 1 BTC or 0.5 BTC should look into alternate options. I agree we should look into coins/tokens that can make us rich.

Writing a two-liner for the mods to come here and delete this topic, which eventually won't happen Grin

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Quote from: Adreman23 on December 02, 2023, 08:42:51 AM

While historical patterns show Bitcoin pumps often followed by altcoin pumps, it's crucial to acknowledge the inherent risk. Making informed decisions involves understanding when and which altcoin to leverage. Mistakes can happen, such as anticipating the end of a Bitcoin pump, investing in an altcoin, only to see Bitcoin continue its rise, causing the altcoin to decline.

If you look at the charts of altcoins and bitcoin, you can see that bitcoin grew first, and altcoins started to grow a bit later. But there are some coins that have shown very good growth, such as solana. Even Ripple was able to grow despite their difficulties. I think that soon the other altcoins will start to grow too.

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While historical patterns show Bitcoin pumps often followed by altcoin pumps, it's crucial to acknowledge the inherent risk. Making informed decisions involves understanding when and which altcoin to leverage. Mistakes can happen, such as anticipating the end of a Bitcoin pump, investing in an altcoin, only to see Bitcoin continue its rise, causing the altcoin to decline.

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Quote from: Dr.Osh on November 27, 2023, 02:04:05 AM

well, personally I only focus on popular altcoins. However, for new, or perhaps not so popular, altcoins, more in-depth research is needed to select and hold them at this time. If the price of bitcoin will rise during the halving, then it is very likely that altcoins will also follow bitcoin's steps, and perhaps the increase in some altcoins that have low prices will increase by hundreds of percent. But, I don't want to miss the train and choose the wrong altcoin, so for the time being, I just focus on popular altcoins.

I wouldn't recommend buying and holding new altcoins for a very long time. The reason behind that is that new altcoins might not get enough hype of popularity before the bull run and we all know that though altcoins follow Bitcoin's footsteps, it doesn't mean they can grow high without any investment. The reason behind the growth of cryptocurrencies during the bull run is the amount of money being poured into them and a cryptocurrency that isn't being traded at all will barely gain substantial value even during the bull run.

Therefore, one should only buy and hold cryptocurrencies that they know have the potential to get a high number of investors during the bull run because that is the only thing that can make them go higher and higher in price and provide great returns on investments. So, research is important.

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I wish it were that easy. Only if you knew how many people that have been unlucky with altcoins. It’s either this project or that project, the next minute your $100 is now resolved to a few cents. One of the reason why most people will not leave Bitcoin for other altcoins is that they understand that the constant creation of altcoins have made selection more difficult, hence increasing the risk involved. But when they go for Bitcoin, it’s the same old Bitcoin and they know it doesn’t have such volatility like so many of these altcoins.

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Quote from: Bitstar_coin on November 30, 2023, 04:23:30 PM

Quote from: Kensure on November 23, 2023, 09:29:48 AM

The Liquidity pouring into BTC will eventually start pouring into top altcoins and we can already see it happening with likes of $SOL , LINK , $INJ etc making massive moves !

The obvious play here is to learn and leverage on top altcoins to buy

Unfortunately those who are looking to make x100 or above are not looking at top alts because their mcap already so high they can't give such gain.
Where money will flow into is micro cap alts, newly listed with very low mcap that can easily give x100 or more.
Top alts are safe investment bit with not so much returns unlike low cap with high risk and high reward. Although not all low mcap are that risky if you can do your research properly.

honestly the coin that could give 100x increase are just meme coin or shitcoin, I think even most prospective altcoin when first introduced in the exchange through listing aren't even remotely close to making that much of gain and usually its all about 10 times of initial price only not as much as 100 times, but if its growth overtime that we're talking about basically long term investment like maybe 1-2 years, within the bullrun altcoin that are new could easily score 100 times of initial price increase, we see majority of coin that has reached top 10 right now are small market capital coin back then but growing day by day not just because its favoured by community not for some reason but because it is indeed have the utility for it to be valued that high.
also to mention that such increase might be possible when the coin wasn't listed on popular exchange yet but on the brink of listing.

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Quote from: Bushdark on November 29, 2023, 02:30:47 PM

Quote from: Natalim on November 28, 2023, 09:27:16 AM

Quote from: Kensure on November 23, 2023, 09:29:48 AM

The Liquidity pouring into BTC will eventually start pouring into top altcoins and we can already see it happening with likes of $SOL , LINK , $INJ etc making massive moves !

The obvious play here is to learn and leverage on top altcoins to buy

Indeed, we should not fall into shitcoins and those projects that promise unrealistic rewards as they only fail in the end.
Better make a choice of established projects as we have a huge assurance that it pum when Bitcoin pumps, it goes along the market trend and yes, the confidence is there. Those on the top 10 altcoins are good options but have not to just focus on altcoins alone because the best option is still Bitcoin.
For me, I spend only 40% of my entire investment capital on altcoins and 60% goes to Bitcoin.

There are so many altcoins in the market that we can buy and make profits. We don't need to keep sticking to the same old tokens we have been holding that had not been giving us profits. There are new crypto projects that are being launched that we can buy and hold for as long as possible. This is one of the ways we can get prepared for the bull market that is loading gradually.
Since 2024 is already here with good bullish momentum, we don't have to miss out holding some random tokens.

With the exception of the altcoins at the top, and even then there will be many forum members that will argue against holding those top altcoins, investors need to be very wary of new altcoins, if you want to invest in them there is nothing I can do to stop you, but it is better to never even consider holding those coins for long, and this is because we know very well the majority of those coins collapse just a few months after their release, and if you are too stubborn to sell then you could become a bagholder and you could find yourself being forced to hold those coins forever.

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Quote from: Kensure on November 23, 2023, 09:29:48 AM

The Liquidity pouring into BTC will eventually start pouring into top altcoins and we can already see it happening with likes of $SOL , LINK , $INJ etc making massive moves !

The obvious play here is to learn and leverage on top altcoins to buy

Unfortunately those who are looking to make x100 or above are not looking at top alts because their mcap already so high they can't give such gain.
Where money will flow into is micro cap alts, newly listed with very low mcap that can easily give x100 or more.
Top alts are safe investment bit with not so much returns unlike low cap with high risk and high reward. Although not all low mcap are that risky if you can do your research properly.

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Yes, there are potential altcoins that will give their customers a reliable profits that will help them to do so many things that will be bringing income to their business regularly in the society. Since Ethereum and BNB are still in a good form to satisfy their customers by maintaining a good position in the market, I guess it will make those that are use to long term hodling to earn well when the price rise higher soon.

If you have the money to invest, just make Ethereum your altcoins choice in this bear run and, it will help you to see some profits that you have never experience before in the market and it will give you confident to invest when the price is low again in the market.

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Quote from: VFalcon on November 29, 2023, 02:38:28 PM

You should try to invest in different proven alts, but my opinion is that it is better to invest not your own money, but those that won for example in Cash Giving Day tournament there the conditions are very simple and everyone can get a small amount for future investments

not a bad example of investing from money won, I think it's an interesting idea. Especially if such tournaments will be held more often

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You should try to invest in different proven alts, but my opinion is that it is better to invest not your own money, but those that won for example in Cash Giving Day tournament there the conditions are very simple and everyone can get a small amount for future investments

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Quote from: Natalim on November 28, 2023, 09:27:16 AM

Quote from: Kensure on November 23, 2023, 09:29:48 AM

The Liquidity pouring into BTC will eventually start pouring into top altcoins and we can already see it happening with likes of $SOL , LINK , $INJ etc making massive moves !

The obvious play here is to learn and leverage on top altcoins to buy

Indeed, we should not fall into shitcoins and those projects that promise unrealistic rewards as they only fail in the end.
Better make a choice of established projects as we have a huge assurance that it pum when Bitcoin pumps, it goes along the market trend and yes, the confidence is there. Those on the top 10 altcoins are good options but have not to just focus on altcoins alone because the best option is still Bitcoin.
For me, I spend only 40% of my entire investment capital on altcoins and 60% goes to Bitcoin.

There are so many altcoins in the market that we can buy and make profits. We don't need to keep sticking to the same old tokens we have been holding that had not been giving us profits. There are new crypto projects that are being launched that we can buy and hold for as long as possible. This is one of the ways we can get prepared for the bull market that is loading gradually.
Since 2024 is already here with good bullish momentum, we don't have to miss out holding some random tokens.

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The only problem is how to pinpoint what altcoin will increase next. It's true that they might pour their profits into Altcoins like how it was years ago because this is how making profits is but it actually doesn't stay that way for a long time. Once Bitcoin plunged down next it sold those Altcoin to buy Bitcoin back.
But I don't think that's now. The FOMO is high in Bitcoin because of the upcoming ETF and then there's the halving. I mean, what is a year to us investors, it will be like waking up the next day and it's already a year. Time flies fast and while they can ride the boat at this price, many investors will use their purchasing power to make a profit when ETF is approved.
It's not bad to buy a little bit of those altcoins that you mentioned, just be sure that you are also ready when Bitcoin starts pumping.

That's the million dollar question. According to Solidus Rug Pull Report from 2022 there were already 350 new scam tokens released daily and amount was only growing so who knows how many there are today.

So when picking the token, i often thought that i should stay away from old small caps as they were most likely long died projects. And i should either invest to mid/high caps or low caps with ton of active development, enough funding left.
But especially old small caps that would have any future are rare to find and don't necessarily raise with the rest of the bull run. So i thought i should invest to new coins and tokens instead. Those often raise from nothing and get fomo for no real reason. But they do often get gains before collapsing. But solidus report confirms something most of us knew, that changes to find new rising star from all the scams are slim to none

when the old small caps don't die and turn into a scam, they are still going to gain investors when new investor of crypto sees the price increase. it's the nature of a bull run since the price of altcoins relies on BTC price, whenever BTC prices go high so are their prices which attracts investors looking for profit. for them, they are all rising stars.

the worse part is that they use BTC to buy those altcoins which means they sold their BTC for these altcoins.

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Quote from: Kensure on November 23, 2023, 09:29:48 AM

The Liquidity pouring into BTC will eventually start pouring into top altcoins and we can already see it happening with likes of $SOL , LINK , $INJ etc making massive moves !

The obvious play here is to learn and leverage on top altcoins to buy

That's always what should be done when someone enters the market, those who think they are okay with just Bitcoin and they shouldn't venture into altcoins, are not doing things the right way because even though there is no doubt that Bitcoin is the best cryptocurrency and it undoubtedly deserves the first spot in your portfolio, but that doesn't mean other cryptocurrencies are useless and they are not worth investments or to be in anyone's portfolio.

So, without a doubt, the best thing one can do is to do some research and buy and add the best altcoins into their portfolio because diversification can provide great returns in most cases where the person has added useful cryptocurrencies in their portfolio and didn't just pick some coins randomly.

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Quote from: Kensure on November 23, 2023, 09:29:48 AM

The Liquidity pouring into BTC will eventually start pouring into top altcoins and we can already see it happening with likes of $SOL , LINK , $INJ etc making massive moves !

The obvious play here is to learn and leverage on top altcoins to buy

Indeed, we should not fall into shitcoins and those projects that promise unrealistic rewards as they only fail in the end.
Better make a choice of established projects as we have a huge assurance that it pum when Bitcoin pumps, it goes along the market trend and yes, the confidence is there. Those on the top 10 altcoins are good options but have not to just focus on altcoins alone because the best option is still Bitcoin.
For me, I spend only 40% of my entire investment capital on altcoins and 60% goes to Bitcoin.

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Quote from: Kensure on November 23, 2023, 09:29:48 AM

The Liquidity pouring into BTC will eventually start pouring into top altcoins and we can already see it happening with likes of $SOL , LINK , $INJ etc making massive moves !

The obvious play here is to learn and leverage on top altcoins to buy

There is no lie here, altcoins are now promising, even more promising than Bitcoin when it comes to returns on investments. It's obvious that the price of Bitcoin is so large now, which is a discouragement to some people, especially to those who did not benefit from it when it was so small in price. And since Bitcoin is not the only cryptocurrency, the money is being distributed in all of them (cryptocurrencies).

Even if more money is injected into Bitcoin, due to its large size, the money would not have much effect on the price and the profit made would be little. This is unlike altcoins that still have very low market capitalizations, and due to this, if just $10B is injected into some altcoins, they might have yielded x20 of their initial holdings, but such an amount will only move Bitcoin by about 7.3%.

This is why it's getting increasingly discouraging for smart investors as they think investment is all about making money, and the best way to make it is actually the true way.

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Quote from: danherbias07 on November 23, 2023, 10:07:35 AM

The only problem is how to pinpoint what altcoin will increase next. It's true that they might pour their profits into Altcoins like how it was years ago because this is how making profits is but it actually doesn't stay that way for a long time. Once Bitcoin plunged down next it sold those Altcoin to buy Bitcoin back.
But I don't think that's now. The FOMO is high in Bitcoin because of the upcoming ETF and then there's the halving. I mean, what is a year to us investors, it will be like waking up the next day and it's already a year. Time flies fast and while they can ride the boat at this price, many investors will use their purchasing power to make a profit when ETF is approved.
It's not bad to buy a little bit of those altcoins that you mentioned, just be sure that you are also ready when Bitcoin starts pumping.

That's the million dollar question. According to Solidus Rug Pull Report from 2022 there were already 350 new scam tokens released daily and amount was only growing so who knows how many there are today.

So when picking the token, i often thought that i should stay away from old small caps as they were most likely long died projects. And i should either invest to mid/high caps or low caps with ton of active development, enough funding left.
But especially old small caps that would have any future are rare to find and don't necessarily raise with the rest of the bull run. So i thought i should invest to new coins and tokens instead. Those often raise from nothing and get fomo for no real reason. But they do often get gains before collapsing. But solidus report confirms something most of us knew, that changes to find new rising star from all the scams are slim to none

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Quote from: Dr.Osh on November 27, 2023, 02:04:05 AM

well, personally I only focus on popular altcoins. ...

The potential price growth of popular altcoins is also limited, as is the potential growth of Bitcoin. Accordingly, investing in popular altcoins, you hardly expect to make a profit equal to 10000%. But those who invest in new coins, at least, set themselves the task of increasing their deposit by thousands of percent. And the higher the risk of losing your deposit, the higher the chance to get such a super profit.

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well, personally I only focus on popular altcoins. However, for new, or perhaps not so popular, altcoins, more in-depth research is needed to select and hold them at this time. If the price of bitcoin will rise during the halving, then it is very likely that altcoins will also follow bitcoin's steps, and perhaps the increase in some altcoins that have low prices will increase by hundreds of percent. But, I don't want to miss the train and choose the wrong altcoin, so for the time being, I just focus on popular altcoins.

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Quote from: Kensure on November 23, 2023, 09:29:48 AM

The Liquidity pouring into BTC will eventually start pouring into top altcoins and we can already see it happening with likes of $SOL , LINK , $INJ etc making massive moves !

True. The pump for altcoin usually came after the whales have done to pump bitcoin.
It's always repeating anytime. People who feel worry about that was not even aware if this kind of pattern was always repeating since a few years ago. Some coins have been increasing a lot and the chance to reach another all time high is very big at this moment.
People just need to do DCA by themselves. Im sure that many people were accumulating for the next bullrun. Bitcoin gets even closer to the halving. Another massive pump for bitcoin will happen.
Just try to accumulate as many altcoins as possible before the bullrun will come soon.

Quote from: Kensure on November 23, 2023, 09:29:48 AM

The obvious play here is to learn and leverage on top altcoins to buy

Top altcoins are good but it will give you less profits. The better to stick into the potential altcoins rather than top coins. It will give you massive profit once the bullrun will come.
People shall prepare their seatbelt before the plane will take off.

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Quote from: Kensure on November 23, 2023, 09:29:48 AM

The Liquidity pouring into BTC will eventually start pouring into top altcoins and we can already see it happening with likes of $SOL , LINK , $INJ etc making massive moves !

The obvious play here is to learn and leverage on top altcoins to buy

We all know that bitcoin is the leader of them all and it is on the rise to the point of All Time High. And some of the altcoins are also following suit. But altcoins like LINK, $SOL, $INJ are strange to me, and the only ones I know that moving upward right now is Ethereum, Dogecoin and Litecoin. And really if any altcoin is moving upward and you know that, if you invest in them, you will make profit then it is a good idea to invest in them but be careful. Not altcoins you see are good to invest in. Some of them the life spam is very short.

Though nothing is risk free but you have to take a calculated risk so that at the end you will not loss and instead profit making.

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Quote from: GlacierBIT on November 25, 2023, 01:49:36 PM

The choice of altcoins is not so obvious, the game of roulette is whether you are lucky or not. It will take too long to learn for beginners. The sheer number of altcoins available can make it challenging to navigate, and their value can be highly volatile. And for those who are in the know, you just have to expect that sooner or later you will get that same profit.

And it is because of this that it is better to not take the risk of investing in altcoins on the first place, especially if we are talking about newbies, newbies should instead concentrate on what they can control, which is to increase their savings, increase their income if possible, invest in bitcoin and then hold, a very simple strategy, and yet it is one that could easily allow them to multiply their capital several times over, however on their hurry to get rich those newbies will ignore bitcoin and begin to invest in meme coins and other similar coins, and while some may get lucky we know the majority will suffer greatly because of that decision.

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Quote from: dimonstration on November 23, 2023, 10:36:11 AM

Quote from: Kensure on November 23, 2023, 09:29:48 AM

The Liquidity pouring into BTC will eventually start pouring into top altcoins and we can already see it happening with likes of $SOL , LINK , $INJ etc making massive moves !

The obvious play here is to learn and leverage on top altcoins to buy

Yeah, There’s a cycle in every bull market. It start with Bitcoin > Huge Cap Altcoin > Small Cap Altcoin then the final blow will be pump of all coin no matter how shit it is because everyone is already in profit from different altcoin so traders will keep looking for other tokens that is still not moving. This is the time when they are get rekt since the market will correct once everyone jump out to Bitcoin.

Leveraging on top altcoins is really a good idea if Bitcoin pump and read a safe level so that it will not slide down.

You just stated the bull run order of cryptocurrencies, first is the pacesetter bitcoin, when it reaches it's ATH, then investors will look for profitable top altcoins, to reinvest their profits from bitcoin. As the profit calore is going on, some investors will keep going further down the ladder to reinvest their profits, until they reach shitcoins. After bull run, many shitciins will disappear with people's assets, remaining the top altcoins, to start another cycle with bitcoin.

Bitcoin, bull run opens the floodgate for altcoins to experience their bull run too, so this is a good time to buy into top altcoins.

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Quote from: DaNNy001 on November 25, 2023, 02:50:38 PM

People are really getting with altcoins now and anytime I see the price of Solana now it always make me wonder the profits I would have acquire only if I bought when the price was low but since it's altcoins am still in the contemplation of buying now that the price has gone high like this because these coins have a certain character that tend to do what you don't expect them to do and can dump as fast as they pump but since life is a risk one can only risk and hope to get more or loss all in an twinkle of an eye.

Waiting for December, over the years all coins will go down due to the Christmas effect over the years that have passed, Solana is a good coin but if you want a lower price you have to be patient. Now there is an airdrop trend from Solana. This airdrop hype will probably start like in 2021 and it will return

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People are really getting with altcoins now and anytime I see the price of Solana now it always make me wonder the profits I would have acquire only if I bought when the price was low but since it's altcoins am still in the contemplation of buying now that the price has gone high like this because these coins have a certain character that tend to do what you don't expect them to do and can dump as fast as they pump but since life is a risk one can only risk and hope to get more or loss all in an twinkle of an eye.

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I think people like Solana have good support from hedge funds, this is one of the significant reasons for the success of such projects. But still, I think you are right, because it’s too late for a new investor with a small capital to invest in Bitcoin, but finding an altcoin that will achieve success in the future like Sol is realistic.

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The choice of altcoins is not so obvious, the game of roulette is whether you are lucky or not. It will take too long to learn for beginners. The sheer number of altcoins available can make it challenging to navigate, and their value can be highly volatile. And for those who are in the know, you just have to expect that sooner or later you will get that same profit.

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How can we see it happening when it "eventually" starts pouring to the top altcoins? What's your evidence for it?

Does a 2.1% rise in price (at the time of posting) of SOL mean that it came from BTC, of the volume?
Does a 1.5% rise in price (at the time of posting) of LINK mean that it came from BTC, of the volume?

It's hard to determine where it came from and we need to verify it at times. It's best that you find ways to show why it is happening and if it already happened.

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Yes of course, altcoins are the fastest way to make the biggest profits, they can rise hundreds of percent in just one night, but they can also fall hundreds of percent in a few seconds lol, especially in the past the luna case was a tragedy in the history of altcoins. I also played altcoins during the bull run, my only advice is, never put your apples in just one basket, divide them according to their respective proportions.

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Now altcoins run can be called absolutely normal because in the past I have seen almost all top altcoins run with bitcoin run but this time almost all are exceptions. That being said altcoins are trying to outrun themselves. Bull market has no tolerance for such situation but you can wait for some more time then you will see direct result. On the other hand if you are researching the pump of altcoins you may miss the right time to buy.

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Quote from: D ltr on November 25, 2023, 10:46:46 AM

it is too difficult to find promising altcoins at the moment, the market cycle is difficult to predict, whether it will continue to rise or will return to its decline,
The current market situation is too many new dilemmas to rise, there must be bad news, which affects the value of Bitcoin. So it's just like market manipulation,

if you do in-depth research about altcoins, in my opinion it is not as difficult as you say, if you are afraid of risk you should not invest in crypto, especially as the crypto market cycle is very difficult to predict, and the crypto market has lots of puzzles, but if you Having self-confidence, patience and extensive knowledge about altcoins, I don't think you will be confused in choosing the altcoin you want to invest in because there are many altcoins that are very worthy of investment at this time, such as ETH, BNB, link, ada, polygon(matic), and other altcoins that are in the top 10 crypto markets,

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This stands true to an extend but it would be too early to enter into Altcoin now if you are not in for risk investment because Bitcoin is doing sideways around $36k and $37 so we may see liquidity movements from Bitcoin to Altcoin like it happens whenever Bitcoin pumps and stagnates at certain value for an extended period (atleast more than 2 weeks). There are opportunists who would get benefitted by this event but one has to give their full time in these season if they wanna get profits through Altcoin, doing this part time will just kill their portfolio.

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it is too difficult to find promising altcoins at the moment, the market cycle is difficult to predict, whether it will continue to rise or will return to its decline,
The current market situation is too many new dilemmas to rise, there must be bad news, which affects the value of Bitcoin. So it's just like market manipulation,

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The opportunity comes when everyone feels afraid because there is no change in the market, now that the market has improved, we should use it to take the opportunity.
but the market has not yet fully recovered, we are still waiting a few more months until that time comes, but buying now and saving is not a bad choice.

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Investing into cryptocurrencies like SOL, LINK, and INJ makes sense. This reflects a maturing market where investors seek other options outside Bitcoin. However, supporting Bitcoin—the cryptocurrency ecosystem's foundation - is essential due to its security and track record. Altcoins have bigger yields but also more risks and volatility. Each altcoin's technology and market situation must be studied. A balanced portfolio including Bitcoin for stability and certain altcoins for growth may be best. Remember, bitcoin knowledge is power and risk management is crucial.

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Quote from: Kensure on November 23, 2023, 09:29:48 AM

The Liquidity pouring into BTC will eventually start pouring into top altcoins and we can already see it happening with likes of $SOL , LINK , $INJ etc making massive moves !

The obvious play here is to learn and leverage on top altcoins to buy

Actually, that is a good idea rather than looking for gems (shitcoins) thinking that this could give us more as it is only just a broken promise.
But we should still limit our altcoins, it was advisable to invest more in Bitcoin. It was not just a chance of earning more but at least we have some assurance that we're safe and we believe that it will stay in the market for many years which gives us confidence that our money will never be gone like dust.

-BTC, ETH, BNB, well, at least having the three is good enough to hold ready for the next bull run and ATH.

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Quote from: martinex on November 23, 2023, 09:47:00 AM

Sometimes patterns are like that and sometimes they are temporary, but you have to monitor the market to maximize your trading decisions, but it is better to choose at least two coins if you feel that BTC is too expensive to buy. So in terms of monitoring and controlling movement it doesn't require a lot of energy. But if you hold on, it's not necessary, just wait for the coins you bought previously to change to USDT or what currency you use.

Patterns are always there. History can repeat itself, and as you said it may work temporarily. But there are also times that it won't work at all, so we shouldn't always hope for it. It is better to always stay realistic and based your moves mostly in the current market situation.

Actively monitoring the market might be a great idea but I think it is only optional, as there are now tools or apps that can alert us from time to time if what is going on in the market and to the crypto world. Bitcoin is expensive if you will buy it in full, but who says that it is strictly required? We can always buy it in smaller portions. Now, will you still look for other cryptos?

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Quote from: Silberman on November 23, 2023, 05:56:20 PM

Quote from: Kensure on November 23, 2023, 09:29:48 AM

The Liquidity pouring into BTC will eventually start pouring into top altcoins and we can already see it happening with likes of $SOL , LINK , $INJ etc making massive moves !

The obvious play here is to learn and leverage on top altcoins to buy

We are nowhere near that moment, what you are describing is what it is known as the altcoin season, but for that we need bitcoin to experiment the bull market first, and despite the increase in the price we have seen recently, this is not a bull market yet, so what people need to do is simply to keep increasing their bitcoin holdings, and if they are willing to take the risk, then at that time, they can choose to invest some of their profits in an altcoin or two.

true we're nowhere in the bullmarket I think, the price increase wasn't even a fraction of previous bullrun all time high that I don't think its even starting for the real bullrun but honestly we don't know for sure when the bullrun will occur because the market could be pumping in the blink of an eye, and suddenly tomorrow is a bullrun.
thats the interesting thing with altcoin, the changing of the market always comes unexpected as if to prevent from people from making money, but then again its always the holders that always wins at the end of the day, history has shown exactly that and such thing will repeat again, remember when the bearish was so bad we hit 90% loss of ATH, now those holder that bought exactly at that time already getting their deserved harvests of profits.

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Quote from: GreatArkansas on November 23, 2023, 10:03:16 AM

The challenge now is which altcoin. This time it seems very different, compared to before when most altcoins would just pump after the Bitcoin rally.
Now, it's really difficult, even if you say top altcoin, we have now a lot of top altcoins.
Plus Bitcoin dominance right now is extremely high and local top, we still don't know if Bitcoin will continue to rally or go sideways so altcoins will do their run also.

Yes, that remains a challenge as to which altcoins can be worthy of our money and trust in the end. As we know already that altcoin market is the playground of scammers, then investing into altcoins needs high caution so we won't be regretting why we decide to take the risk in altcoins. However, we can't guarantee that altcoins these days will certainly follow the same path with bitcoin, they could move the other way around when we are in the verge of expecting high profits just like we used to speculate with bitcoin.

Despite of the fact that its hard to land on right altcoins in the market, a lot of investors still chose to take risk with altcoins not because its way of diversifying our investment but because its known to us that in our previous investments, altcoins have the chances to provide us exceptional profits more than bitcoin can offer that would be life changing for those who have the courage to take the risk.

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Quote from: Kensure on November 23, 2023, 09:29:48 AM

The Liquidity pouring into BTC will eventually start pouring into top altcoins and we can already see it happening with likes of $SOL , LINK , $INJ etc making massive moves !

The obvious play here is to learn and leverage on top altcoins to buy

We are nowhere near that moment, what you are describing is what it is known as the altcoin season, but for that we need bitcoin to experiment the bull market first, and despite the increase in the price we have seen recently, this is not a bull market yet, so what people need to do is simply to keep increasing their bitcoin holdings, and if they are willing to take the risk, then at that time, they can choose to invest some of their profits in an altcoin or two.

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Quote from: Kensure on November 23, 2023, 09:29:48 AM

The Liquidity pouring into BTC will eventually start pouring into top altcoins and we can already see it happening with likes of $SOL , LINK , $INJ etc making massive moves !

The obvious play here is to learn and leverage on top altcoins to buy

This is challenging and also quite risky, because as other memes say, patterns sometimes change quickly or don't even match what we want. The problem is that for beginners who don't really understand market analysis and patterns like this, they just take certain coins without considering several things. Not only that, risks can also occur as a result of taking leverage which may be too high. As we know, leverage is actually not recommended for beginners because of the risks. Tops altcoins also will not guarantee that they will be able to rise up taht much in certain time.so, be careful with this possibility and prepare it wisely.

However, if you understand the pattern and how we consider various things, including when to enter and exit at the right time, then it will be quite a big advantage. However, if you miss even a little and are not sure about everything, it will be a big risk. Indeed, it will be like this, high returns will always need high risks. That's why, in fact, Bitcoin is still the most appropriate choice so far for doing several things, especially holding or short term investments with certain methods to take profits.

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Why looking late for the good atlcoins? You should done this during the bear market.
Well the pump is still there and still have the chance to buy and invest, try to look for other projects that is not breaking the resistance yet. $SOL is already too expensive for me, better to wait for some correction if you are still planning to invest with it, don’t forget to still hold BTC because the peak is yet to come.

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Quote from: Kensure on November 23, 2023, 09:29:48 AM

The Liquidity pouring into BTC will eventually start pouring into top altcoins and we can already see it happening with likes of $SOL , LINK , $INJ etc making massive moves !

The obvious play here is to learn and leverage on top altcoins to buy

Or it is the opposite. The liquidity that is into altcoins will definitely flow to Bitcoin when the bull run has started. But you're right, if you're a trader or short term investor.
You have to look at these opportunities for you to take advantage of it. Look at SOL, it's one of the best performers for this year and we're not ending yet and possibly there's more.
But before you start looking into altcoins, you have to look to Bitcoin first if you don't have a few of it yet.

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Quote from: Kensure on November 23, 2023, 09:29:48 AM

The Liquidity pouring into BTC will eventually start pouring into top altcoins and we can already see it happening with likes of $SOL , LINK , $INJ etc making massive moves !

The obvious play here is to learn and leverage on top altcoins to buy

This is already happening, though this is not the expected altseason. This mini altseason lead some potential projects to their peak, but i think all these project will eventually come back to its previous level before the halving. The whole altcoin market will take a massive blow if bitcoin market makes a major correction in Q1 next year. The probability of this is pretty high if we look at the historical data. So if someone is in a massive profit, it is time to take out seed money to invest later on.

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Quote from: Kensure on November 23, 2023, 09:29:48 AM

The Liquidity pouring into BTC will eventually start pouring into top altcoins and we can already see it happening with likes of $SOL , LINK , $INJ etc making massive moves !

The obvious play here is to learn and leverage on top altcoins to buy

There is no certainty that it will happen, even though if we assume it will happen for sure still we don't know what coin so we need to choose multiple coins and hope that the surge in BTC prices will reflect on them too. It isn't smart in my opinion. If you feel bitcoin is moving then the better choice is to invest in bitcoin and hold it until it reaches your goal price.

You should never invest in crypto just because the bitcoin is bullish and if you really want to take the risk then its purely gamble and odds are pretty less on your side.

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Quote from: electronicash on November 23, 2023, 03:32:52 PM

ETH probably is way more serious than other altcoins, this one has already ETF filed by Blackrock. it's more secure to invest in ETH than other altcoins that grow just cents every time BTC spikes.

Yes that's right. Among the many altcoins, for me only Eth is the best, especially for beginners who don't understand much about crypto, it's better to invest in Eth of course after investing in BTC. because for me Eth is an extraordinary fundamental chain, and So many benefits.

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SOL though is kind of good because it really skyrocket weeks ago, it would probably shoot up again when there is another BTC green candle by next month. in a way, most altcoins are dragged up when BTC is having a bull run.

The best Solana chain currently for web3 adoption. I've tried all the other big blockchains but Sol works overall. Solana is my second favorite altcoin after Ethereum.

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Quote from: Kensure on November 23, 2023, 09:29:48 AM

The Liquidity pouring into BTC will eventually start pouring into top altcoins and we can already see it happening with likes of $SOL , LINK , $INJ etc making massive moves !

The obvious play here is to learn and leverage on top altcoins to buy

Just be careful, I think it's too early to start looking into altcoins, you are right that the price is surging right now but a little dip correction from Bitcoin wi cripple the altcoins massively, we still don't know if the ETFs will get approved and we still don't know what will happen in 2024 too, we are not out of the bear market yet so it's better to keep buying over time using dollar cost average only. Avoid going all into altcoins.

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Quote from: Kensure on November 23, 2023, 09:29:48 AM

The Liquidity pouring into BTC will eventually start pouring into top altcoins and we can already see it happening with likes of $SOL , LINK , $INJ etc making massive moves !

The obvious play here is to learn and leverage on top altcoins to buy

It could easily be a trap right now. Yes, some altcoins have rallied strongly, but I don't think it's time for a rally yet. Halving will be in half a year. During this time, many coins can both rise and fall. I would consider investing in those projects that have not grown much yet.

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ETH probably is way more serious than other altcoins, this one has already ETF filed by Blackrock. it's more secure to invest in ETH than other altcoins that grow just cents every time BTC spikes.

SOL though is kind of good because it really skyrocket weeks ago, it would probably shoot up again when there is another BTC green candle by next month. in a way, most altcoins are dragged up when BTC is having a bull run.

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Quote from: Kensure on November 23, 2023, 09:29:48 AM

The Liquidity pouring into BTC will eventually start pouring into top altcoins and we can already see it happening with likes of $SOL , LINK , $INJ etc making massive moves !

The obvious play here is to learn and leverage on top altcoins to buy

Choosing the best altcoins are not that easy and you have to consider everything.
The market is slowly getting better, which can be a good sign for a long term up trend. Now we are on the choosing phase and its important to deal with the best project, I can see top altcoins right now will perform a good pump soon so its good to do your research now and have some investment too.

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Quote from: Kensure on November 23, 2023, 09:29:48 AM

The Liquidity pouring into BTC will eventually start pouring into top altcoins and we can already see it happening with likes of $SOL , LINK , $INJ etc making massive moves !

You can equally say we should start looking into Blockchain based coins after all, coins paving their way to solving scalability, interoperability, low fee transaction problems and more, these are the assets to be put under watch this coming bull run. SOL pretty much good for gamers using proof-of-history consensus mechanisms likewise INJ and others including the new asset SEI.

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Quote from: Kensure on November 23, 2023, 09:29:48 AM

The Liquidity pouring into BTC will eventually start pouring into top altcoins and we can already see it happening with likes of $SOL , LINK , $INJ etc making massive moves !

The obvious play here is to learn and leverage on top altcoins to buy

I believe there had been more movements in alts than bitcoin this bull. Solana tripled in a week while bitcoin is just increasing 50% from a month ago. some individual coins would surely out perform others in market of every movement.
But the overall market trend remains the same whether it be BTC or altlcoins. There could be a sight delay but all of altcoins would fall if bitcoin starts to fall and similar would be seen if it sticks or rises. And at the point, it's difficult to be sure if the market is in it's crest or it's still on the way up.

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Quote from: el kaka22 on November 23, 2023, 01:20:50 PM

I can't talk about specific coins or tokens because it may feel like that could be not that right for many people, but at the same time I feel like we are talking about something that will end up with a huge trouble on the long run if we do not look into certain projects. I think I can say that at this current moment finding the right one is the hardest part, I agree that if you invest into anything in the market, you have a good chance of either making money, or putting your money into something wrong.

It is true that some altcoins will go super high, and that investment is important and you should be making some money and that's fine, but that doesn't change the fact that we can't make money from it, we can still do it, we just need to be careful about it as much as we possibly could. That should be important part of the situation and could maybe make a profit if we are smart about it. So altcoins are fine to invest, but which ones are not known at the moment.

It's critical to approach altcoin investments with a critical eye and a full grasp of the fundamentals of each project. While the potential for substantial gains exists, so does the risk of significant losses.. A systematic and well-informed strategy can help one traverse the changing environment of cryptocurrencies and perhaps profit on emerging possibilities while avoiding potential pitfalls.

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I can't talk about specific coins or tokens because it may feel like that could be not that right for many people, but at the same time I feel like we are talking about something that will end up with a huge trouble on the long run if we do not look into certain projects. I think I can say that at this current moment finding the right one is the hardest part, I agree that if you invest into anything in the market, you have a good chance of either making money, or putting your money into something wrong.

It is true that some altcoins will go super high, and that investment is important and you should be making some money and that's fine, but that doesn't change the fact that we can't make money from it, we can still do it, we just need to be careful about it as much as we possibly could. That should be important part of the situation and could maybe make a profit if we are smart about it. So altcoins are fine to invest, but which ones are not known at the moment.

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Quote from: Kensure on November 23, 2023, 09:29:48 AM

The Liquidity pouring into BTC will eventually start pouring into top altcoins and we can already see it happening with likes of $SOL , LINK , $INJ etc making massive moves !

The obvious play here is to learn and leverage on top altcoins to buy

If there was a massive pump in the aforementioned cryptocurrencies, I am sure that there will be a liquidation, as now there is a dump. It is possible that a few days from now it will continue to decrease gradually, and I think there will be a bounce in SOL between 38 and 40 dollars based on my technical analysis.

Now, if you are a first-time investor who wants to invest in the above, I think you should study first before you invest in it. That's why it's important that you have knowledge of crypto trading.

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Quote from: Kensure on November 23, 2023, 09:29:48 AM

The Liquidity pouring into BTC will eventually start pouring into top altcoins and we can already see it happening with likes of $SOL , LINK , $INJ etc making massive moves !

The obvious play here is to learn and leverage on top altcoins to buy

Yeah, There’s a cycle in every bull market. It start with Bitcoin > Huge Cap Altcoin > Small Cap Altcoin then the final blow will be pump of all coin no matter how shit it is because everyone is already in profit from different altcoin so traders will keep looking for other tokens that is still not moving. This is the time when they are get rekt since the market will correct once everyone jump out to Bitcoin.

Leveraging on top altcoins is really a good idea if Bitcoin pump and read a safe level so that it will not slide down.

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Quote from: GreatArkansas on November 23, 2023, 10:03:16 AM

The challenge now is which altcoin. This time it seems very different, compared to before when most altcoins would just pump after the Bitcoin rally.

It always started like that. Random Altcoins price increasing every now and then. Then the whole Market.

Guess we only have to wait and see. Only recently we had some Shit Coins go crazy. Do not have much expectations. People still do follow trends.

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Quote from: Kensure on November 23, 2023, 09:29:48 AM

The Liquidity pouring into BTC will eventually start pouring into top altcoins and we can already see it happening with likes of $SOL , LINK , $INJ etc making massive moves !

The obvious play here is to learn and leverage on top altcoins to buy

Expect that to happen since not all investor will look only at BTC if you mean they are speculating for bull run to come since provably that majority of investors will also look for other coin to invest. Splitting your investment to other alts when bullish season is speculated to occur is one of the best decision we do knowing that alts will also pump once bitcoin pumps more higher. Your list of alts is good and I also believe that many are listing it on the coins to have that's why lets hope for the best next year since provably all speculation regarding on top alts to invest discussion will provably gives us positive result.

That's how we can play more safer in the market unlike if we invest on new token where for sure the risk is so high and we might not get what we trying to expect since they could potential turn scam immediately that's why we should always go on top alts upon investing.

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Quote from: martinex on November 23, 2023, 09:47:00 AM

Sometimes patterns are like that and sometimes they are temporary, but you have to monitor the market to maximize your trading decisions, but it is better to choose at least two coins if you feel that BTC is too expensive to buy. So in terms of monitoring and controlling movement it doesn't require a lot of energy. But if you hold on, it's not necessary, just wait for the coins you bought previously to change to USDT or what currency you use.

Previously, I tried to explain in that manner, but the deceptive bitcoin maximalists were against me. It is clear that altcoins cannot exist without bitcoin, and we have all seen how bitcoin dictates the bull market. However, I still believe that bitcoin should only be bought by the wealthy and low-risk investors. Although I do not get the clarity of how this market works, I think it might be a little like bitcoin. While some will have the bull and go down through the whole process, some will be there all the way through and some will arrive late. During the bull market, one just needs to catch coins at every stage, but bitcoin will be there throughout

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The only problem is how to pinpoint what altcoin will increase next. It's true that they might pour their profits into Altcoins like how it was years ago because this is how making profits is but it actually doesn't stay that way for a long time. Once Bitcoin plunged down next it sold those Altcoin to buy Bitcoin back.
But I don't think that's now. The FOMO is high in Bitcoin because of the upcoming ETF and then there's the halving. I mean, what is a year to us investors, it will be like waking up the next day and it's already a year. Time flies fast and while they can ride the boat at this price, many investors will use their purchasing power to make a profit when ETF is approved.
It's not bad to buy a little bit of those altcoins that you mentioned, just be sure that you are also ready when Bitcoin starts pumping.

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The challenge now is which altcoin. This time it seems very different, compared to before when most altcoins would just pump after the Bitcoin rally.
Now, it's really difficult, even if you say top altcoin, we have now a lot of top altcoins.
Plus Bitcoin dominance right now is extremely high and local top, we still don't know if Bitcoin will continue to rally or go sideways so altcoins will do their run also.

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Sometimes patterns are like that and sometimes they are temporary, but you have to monitor the market to maximize your trading decisions, but it is better to choose at least two coins if you feel that BTC is too expensive to buy. So in terms of monitoring and controlling movement it doesn't require a lot of energy. But if you hold on, it's not necessary, just wait for the coins you bought previously to change to USDT or what currency you use.

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The Liquidity pouring into BTC will eventually start pouring into top altcoins and we can already see it happening with likes of $SOL , LINK , $INJ etc making massive moves !

The obvious play here is to learn and leverage on top altcoins to buy

Topic: We should start looking into Altcoins (Read 510 times)