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Topic: We touch the 4 tx per second ! (Read 1415 times)

legendary
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Leading Crypto Sports Betting & Casino Platform
January 29, 2016, 01:42:57 AM
#25
Not to worry, Gavin the knight on the white horse has just introduced his latest Bip proposal for a 2MB block size hard fork and will most probably be the savior of Bitcoin. He also has his eye on the throne and cannot wait for the King to die.

He will surround himself with his fellow knights, Sir Mike Hearn and Sir Long and they will live happily ever after. How does that sound? All our scalability issues will be a thing of the past. ^ffs^
legendary
Activity: 2982
Merit: 1485
January 28, 2016, 03:26:47 PM
#24
But some big pools still don't accept any Tx's. We should do something about these Chinese pools. Otherwise delayed payments are not healthy for usable Bitcoin economy. I want to use my coins in marketplaces without any delay.

ive notices AntPool doing alot of blocks of 0.2mb and 0.7mb on regular occassions..        but they are in iceland.
do they get included in your "lets do something" or are you just blaming the chinese

I'm talking about any pool that reject Tx's. It's not a racist statement, if an Iceland mining pool reject then boycott them, too.
They harm Bitcoin network.
legendary
Activity: 3248
Merit: 1070
January 28, 2016, 01:58:51 PM
#23
Transaction fees will have a lot of room to rise before it really becomes a concern, and by that time I guess most of the large service providers would have already be running some sort of clearing solutions

LN is believed to be a good on-chain solution, but it will also take a lot of time to code and especially reach consensus to use it, which is the most difficult part, because LN will cause centralization of knowledge unless it is widely understood like bitcoin

i think a simple solution would be to reduce the minimum fee to 1k, because miners don't need the fee to be more than 80x what they are now, to have the same profit they are getting from the mining reward
sr. member
Activity: 451
Merit: 250
January 28, 2016, 01:56:01 PM
#22
I'm not to happy getting closer to the limit but it's good we are gaining popularity.

True, we need immediate action on this block size issue. Otherwise we'll catch a halt. What's the consensus on this again?



Yes we do. Big miners will be the only one profiting from clogging. They will be the ones picking up higher transaction fees that will
be needed to pay in order for your transaction to get through in a timely fashion.
legendary
Activity: 1988
Merit: 1012
Beyond Imagination
January 28, 2016, 01:10:59 PM
#21
Transaction fees will have a lot of room to rise before it really becomes a concern, and by that time I guess most of the large service providers would have already be running some sort of clearing solutions

LN is believed to be a good on-chain solution, but it will also take a lot of time to code and especially reach consensus to use it, which is the most difficult part, because LN will cause centralization of knowledge unless it is widely understood like bitcoin
hero member
Activity: 576
Merit: 503
January 27, 2016, 09:21:12 PM
#20
I'm not to happy getting closer to the limit but it's good we are gaining popularity.

True, we need immediate action on this block size issue. Otherwise we'll catch a halt. What's the consensus on this again?



1) it's not as urgent as you make it sound. There's no 'halt', just a fee auction and stuck transactions for those who don't pay enough fees and don't know how to fix.
2) you could rationally argue that something should have been done sooner, but right now the choice is fairly clear:
2a) an unsafe, rushed hard fork to 2MB block size limit (Classic)
or
2b) a safe, segwit update which achieves almost the same transaction rate increase in almost the same time frame.
(2b) also offers an end to transaction malleability and numerous other benefits.

The choice is clear imho.
legendary
Activity: 1073
Merit: 1000
January 27, 2016, 07:30:43 PM
#19
Now let's see if this is just temporary or if it will hold in the future.

And if it holds, what will be the number of transactions in the future peak times
legendary
Activity: 1848
Merit: 1009
Next-Gen Trade Racing Metaverse
January 27, 2016, 07:16:15 PM
#18
I'm not to happy getting closer to the limit but it's good we are gaining popularity.

True, we need immediate action on this block size issue. Otherwise we'll catch a halt. What's the consensus on this again?

legendary
Activity: 3066
Merit: 1047
Your country may be your worst enemy
January 27, 2016, 06:49:46 PM
#17
Well, 4 transactions per second is still much too less, if Bitcoin should enter the mainstream one time.

240 transations per minute
14400 transations per hour
345600 transactions per day (!)  Roll Eyes

Exactly. There's nothing to be excited about. If BTC wants to be a world currency, it needs to handle way more than that. More than that, for the safety of the network, you'd want it to have some kind of safety margin. BTC's running close to its limits. I don't like it when my computer runs at 100% CPU. It means I need to upgrade.
legendary
Activity: 1512
Merit: 1012
January 27, 2016, 03:40:55 PM
#16
You won't see higher tx/s without higher fees.

well, actually ... "free rate limiter" hits all walls of the bitcoin core client.
really a lot of "users" want to emit free on Bitcoin.

and when the time come, fees will erase noise on Bitcoin network.

trusted network.
balanced network.
serious network.

like the robinhood tax never applied to the financial sector... http://robinhoodtax.org.uk/
legendary
Activity: 883
Merit: 1005
January 27, 2016, 02:33:32 PM
#15
You won't see higher tx/s without higher fees.
legendary
Activity: 4410
Merit: 4766
January 27, 2016, 02:32:17 PM
#14
But some big pools still don't accept any Tx's. We should do something about these Chinese pools. Otherwise delayed payments are not healthy for usable Bitcoin economy. I want to use my coins in marketplaces without any delay.

ive notices AntPool doing alot of blocks of 0.2mb and 0.7mb on regular occassions..        but they are in iceland.
do they get included in your "lets do something" or are you just blaming the chinese
legendary
Activity: 3248
Merit: 1070
January 27, 2016, 02:29:35 PM
#13
well thiking that bitcoin will remain forever at 3 tx per sec, it's like saying that bitcoin is doomed, that tx need to increase at all cost, if you want this thing to be adopted

i'm not counting fake tx obviously, but genuine tx increase, due to an increase in user base, and not because someone is having fun at delay the network...
copper member
Activity: 1498
Merit: 1528
No I dont escrow anymore.
January 27, 2016, 02:19:22 PM
#12
You missed the important metric IMHO, at least for the last few days.
Someone did mention this on IRC if I recall correctly. It seems like another attempted attack on the network?

I dont have details either, just saw it on twitter earlier. IRC? #bitcoin? (answer per PM is prefered to not derail the thread with it).
legendary
Activity: 1302
Merit: 1008
Core dev leaves me neg feedback #abuse #political
January 27, 2016, 02:07:29 PM
#11
But some big pools still don't accept any Tx's. We should do something about these Chinese pools. Otherwise delayed payments are not healthy for usable Bitcoin economy. I want to use my coins in marketplaces without any delay.

Agreed.. They are not accepting the TX's out of greed, which imo is completely insane..

I mean, it is not like they are missing 1/100 blocks because they are not accepting Tx's.. The increase in blocks they hit is probably only theoretical..

How about the block reward is changed to being dependant on having accepted Tx's in the blocks? Something simple like: "If queed Tx > 1000 and block Tx's < xxx, than block reward is 0"

That way, they would need to include Tx's in their blocks to get paid.

Then miners should not support that behavior and they should level the pool.
hero member
Activity: 1106
Merit: 521
January 27, 2016, 02:05:00 PM
#10
I have never seen blockchain.infos ticker moving so fast, transactions have definatly increased, Bitcoin is about to explode......lol  Grin
sr. member
Activity: 364
Merit: 250
January 27, 2016, 02:04:44 PM
#9
I'm not to happy getting closer to the limit but it's good we are gaining popularity.
legendary
Activity: 2674
Merit: 2965
Terminated.
January 27, 2016, 01:57:03 PM
#8
You missed the important metric IMHO, at least for the last few days.
Someone did mention this on IRC if I recall correctly. It seems like another attempted attack on the network?

345600 transactions per day (!) 
Does seem like a decent number for on chain transactions right now.
full member
Activity: 238
Merit: 100
January 27, 2016, 01:54:55 PM
#7
well for one thing is good because it means that bitcoin is getting more and more popular at a rapid pace though it also bad because we will soon have to do something about the block limit
tyz
legendary
Activity: 3360
Merit: 1533
January 27, 2016, 01:40:39 PM
#6
Well, 4 transactions per second is still much too less, if Bitcoin should enter the mainstream one time.

240 transations per minute
14400 transations per hour
345600 transactions per day (!)  Roll Eyes
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