Sometimes, when I read all these fines its purely a way to save face by the authority slamming the fine for revenue generation purpose and not in anyway addressing the injustice this people have done to their victims. They hide under the law to carry out their nefarious activities hiding under corporate privileges because they know its all about fines without really compensating their victims.
Sometimes ago in my country when telecommunications company were involved in poor services that cost consumers huge amount of income, they were slammed a fine and forced to pay every subscriber in form of airtime even though small the subscribers who were victims achieve closure but today when they do their nonsense they would slammed fines and they pay into government coffers to the extent that the people no longer care about holding them accountable.
Topic: Wells Fargo Hit With $1 Billion In Fines Over Home And Auto Loan Abuses (Read 120 times)
April 25, 2018, 12:59:26 AM
April 23, 2018, 06:34:20 PM
I'm really glad they are finally getting punished, but I'm tired of these small fines as $1 billion is nothing for banks. It's a laugh for them honestly from working with them directly.
April 22, 2018, 06:45:10 PM
Well,this is really good for them. It really gets on my nerves when banks shit around with you in the name of helping you. I,happen to know a financial institution which charges atleast 40% annual interest on any loan,and they collect so many other fees than that,which made like thousands of people who borrowed from that financial institution flee from that country because they were unable to pay it. Banks are becoming too much now,its about time,there comes a new change with better innovation. Banks suck.
April 22, 2018, 06:34:56 PM
Bumping this.
I know there are many "why do people dislike bank" posts on this forum.
There are also many "credit provided by banks drive industry wide innovation and progress" posts here. This OP serves as a different perspective on things. It may also represent a departure from a financial and economic policy where banks receive relatively minor penalties for exploiting consumers. This could be brought on by shifts in policy brought on by the inception of Trump's Administration. Then again, last year the EU tried to fine google $2.7 billion in an anti trust suit. Perhaps there are other circumstances contributing towards larger fines being imposed on banks and corporations?
Should also be mentioned some of the nefarious activities Wells Fargo is guilty of mentioned in the article could be common practices in many banks who have been found guilty of utilizing many similar exploitive methods to boost their profit margins in the past.
I know there are many "why do people dislike bank" posts on this forum.
There are also many "credit provided by banks drive industry wide innovation and progress" posts here. This OP serves as a different perspective on things. It may also represent a departure from a financial and economic policy where banks receive relatively minor penalties for exploiting consumers. This could be brought on by shifts in policy brought on by the inception of Trump's Administration. Then again, last year the EU tried to fine google $2.7 billion in an anti trust suit. Perhaps there are other circumstances contributing towards larger fines being imposed on banks and corporations?
Should also be mentioned some of the nefarious activities Wells Fargo is guilty of mentioned in the article could be common practices in many banks who have been found guilty of utilizing many similar exploitive methods to boost their profit margins in the past.
April 20, 2018, 05:45:36 PM
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The Consumer Financial Protection Bureau is levying a $1 billion fine against Wells Fargo — a record for the agency — as punishment for the banking giant's actions in its mortgage and auto loan businesses.
Wells Fargo's "conduct caused and was likely to cause substantial injury to consumers," the agency said in its filings about the bank.
Wells Fargo broke the law by charging some consumers too much over mortgage interest rate-lock extensions and by running a mandatory insurance program that added insurance costs and fees into some borrowers' auto loans, the CFPB said.
Because of the penalties, Wells Fargo says, it is adjusting its preliminary financial results for the first quarter of 2018, shifting $800 million in its balance sheet — and dropping its net income for the quarter to $4.7 billion.
The new federal action against the bank comes less than two years after Wells Fargo was fined $185 million over what the CFPB called "the widespread illegal practice of secretly opening unauthorized deposit and credit card accounts."
Those earlier penalties included a $100 million fine by the CFPB — a record at the time. The new punishment stems from the agency's findings that Wells Fargo abused its relationship with home and auto loan borrowers.
Wells Fargo was also punished by the U.S. Office of the Comptroller of the Currency over its risk management practices, with the agency collecting a $500 million penalty as part of the fines announced Friday.
Along with treating its customers unfairly, the OCC said, Wells Fargo had failed to maintain a compliance risk management program that was appropriate for a bank of its size and complexity.
That failure, the OCC said, led Wells Fargo to "engage in reckless unsafe or unsound practices and violations of law."
Auto loans, insurance and fees
Problems in the way the Wells Fargo auto loan unit handled consumers' accounts exposed people to hundreds or thousands of dollars in premiums and fees. The issues were also found to have possibly contributed to thousands of cars being repossessed.
The CFPB said problems with the auto loan unit persisted for more than 10 years, from October 2005 to September 2016.
Lenders can require borrowers to maintain insurance on their vehicles — and if a borrower doesn't do that, there is a process that allows lenders to arrange for what is called force-placed insurance and add that cost to the loan. But Wells Fargo acknowledged that of the roughly 2 million car loans that it put into that program, it "forcibly placed duplicative or unnecessary insurance on hundreds of thousands of those borrowers' vehicles."
For some borrowers, the bank also improperly maintained those force-placed policies on their accounts even after they secured adequate insurance.
According to the CFPB, "if borrowers failed to pay the amounts [Wells Fargo] charged them for the Force-Placed Insurance, they faced additional fees and, in some instances, experienced delinquency, loan default, and even repossession."
In one five-year period from 2011 to 2016, Wells Fargo acknowledged in the settlement, the extra costs of force-placed insurance may have played a role in at least 27,000 customers having their vehicles repossessed.
Home loan rate locks
Wells Fargo failed to follow its own policies in how it charged fees over locking in mortgage interest rates beyond the standard guaranteed window, the CFPB said, adding that the bank charged customers for the rate extension — even in cases in which the bank itself was the reason for delays in closing on a home loan.
The problems persisted for several years after the bank's internal audit identified the risk of harming consumers, according to the government's filing about the settlement.
Wells Fargo unfairly and inconsistently applied its policy on rate-extension fees from September 2013 through February 2017, the agency said.
In February, Wells Fargo also faced a government reprimand in February, when the Federal Reserve took the rare step of "restricting Wells Fargo's growth and demanding the replacement of four board members in response to 'widespread consumer abuses and compliance breakdowns' at the bank," as NPR reported.
At the time, the Fed faulted Wells Fargo for maintaining a business strategy that prioritizes its own growth at the expense of risk management.
https://www.npr.org/sections/thetwo-way/2018/04/20/604279604/wells-fargo-hit-with-1-billion-in-fines-over-consumer-abuses
Wells Fargo's "conduct caused and was likely to cause substantial injury to consumers," the agency said in its filings about the bank.
Wells Fargo broke the law by charging some consumers too much over mortgage interest rate-lock extensions and by running a mandatory insurance program that added insurance costs and fees into some borrowers' auto loans, the CFPB said.
Because of the penalties, Wells Fargo says, it is adjusting its preliminary financial results for the first quarter of 2018, shifting $800 million in its balance sheet — and dropping its net income for the quarter to $4.7 billion.
The new federal action against the bank comes less than two years after Wells Fargo was fined $185 million over what the CFPB called "the widespread illegal practice of secretly opening unauthorized deposit and credit card accounts."
Those earlier penalties included a $100 million fine by the CFPB — a record at the time. The new punishment stems from the agency's findings that Wells Fargo abused its relationship with home and auto loan borrowers.
Wells Fargo was also punished by the U.S. Office of the Comptroller of the Currency over its risk management practices, with the agency collecting a $500 million penalty as part of the fines announced Friday.
Along with treating its customers unfairly, the OCC said, Wells Fargo had failed to maintain a compliance risk management program that was appropriate for a bank of its size and complexity.
That failure, the OCC said, led Wells Fargo to "engage in reckless unsafe or unsound practices and violations of law."
Auto loans, insurance and fees
Problems in the way the Wells Fargo auto loan unit handled consumers' accounts exposed people to hundreds or thousands of dollars in premiums and fees. The issues were also found to have possibly contributed to thousands of cars being repossessed.
The CFPB said problems with the auto loan unit persisted for more than 10 years, from October 2005 to September 2016.
Lenders can require borrowers to maintain insurance on their vehicles — and if a borrower doesn't do that, there is a process that allows lenders to arrange for what is called force-placed insurance and add that cost to the loan. But Wells Fargo acknowledged that of the roughly 2 million car loans that it put into that program, it "forcibly placed duplicative or unnecessary insurance on hundreds of thousands of those borrowers' vehicles."
For some borrowers, the bank also improperly maintained those force-placed policies on their accounts even after they secured adequate insurance.
According to the CFPB, "if borrowers failed to pay the amounts [Wells Fargo] charged them for the Force-Placed Insurance, they faced additional fees and, in some instances, experienced delinquency, loan default, and even repossession."
In one five-year period from 2011 to 2016, Wells Fargo acknowledged in the settlement, the extra costs of force-placed insurance may have played a role in at least 27,000 customers having their vehicles repossessed.
Home loan rate locks
Wells Fargo failed to follow its own policies in how it charged fees over locking in mortgage interest rates beyond the standard guaranteed window, the CFPB said, adding that the bank charged customers for the rate extension — even in cases in which the bank itself was the reason for delays in closing on a home loan.
The problems persisted for several years after the bank's internal audit identified the risk of harming consumers, according to the government's filing about the settlement.
Wells Fargo unfairly and inconsistently applied its policy on rate-extension fees from September 2013 through February 2017, the agency said.
In February, Wells Fargo also faced a government reprimand in February, when the Federal Reserve took the rare step of "restricting Wells Fargo's growth and demanding the replacement of four board members in response to 'widespread consumer abuses and compliance breakdowns' at the bank," as NPR reported.
At the time, the Fed faulted Wells Fargo for maintaining a business strategy that prioritizes its own growth at the expense of risk management.
https://www.npr.org/sections/thetwo-way/2018/04/20/604279604/wells-fargo-hit-with-1-billion-in-fines-over-consumer-abuses
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Tried to bold relevent points.
According to this, Wells Fargo charged people with car insurance for a 2nd and completely unnecessary insurance policy to boost their car loan premiums. Then they charged late fees for delays in locking in mortgage terms, even though Wells Fargo may have been the cause of those delays. As many as 27,000 people could have had their cars repossessed over the technicality.
A $1 billion fine is definitely more than a slap on the wrist, like many previous fines imposed on banks have been.
I guess this article summarizes some of the less severe reasons people have for disliking banks and not viewing them as advocating things like fractional reserve banking simply because they help banks to "further progress of civilization and society" and other propaganda which could be standard curriculum in some places.
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