Topic: We're Allowing TOO Much! It's gone too far with Lauda. (Read 1841 times)

^^^
pretty sure this is what insanity looks like when on display in text form.

Not insanity, just a bit delusional and closed-minded.

The above post by nutildah is another typical example of someone who is completely untrustworthy, who by HIS OWN WORDS admits he will facilitate scamming for 0.3 BTC.

He is 100% certain that selling accounts facilitates scamming and is EVIL but is happy to facilitate scamming and become EVIL himself for 0.3 BTC.

https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.50719875

It has not paid off because even in very recent times he is found begging for 0.02BTC loans. This kind of adds weight to the argument that this is NOT the original nutildah "the NEM stake holder and dash pusher" .  If that kind of person needs to be begging for 0.02btc loans then he must be the biggest loser on this board. This is likely NOTILDAH.


So why is someone like this on DT? a person that will willingly facilitate scamming and turn evil for 0.3btc and now a broke bum desperate and begging for 0.02btc loans??? sounds like a strange choice for a position of TRUST on this board??  the answer is simple. He is a Lauda gang supporter if not an ALT of lauda himself and is elevated to this position to entrench Lauda and his gang of rag tag ass kissers and scam supporters.

Lauda can be found saying in previous threads " nothing will cause him to red tag nutildah" ?? sounds legit?

Accounts like nutildah are the reason why lauda can go this far. He is surrounded by alts and ass kissing fools like LFC, pharmacist, suchmoon, nutildah all meriting each other all including each other on DT and all excluding similar people.

Now he claims the above post is evidence of insanity.

WATCH THIS.


Notildah - can you present the EXACT parts of our above post that are INCORRECT, or evidence of insanity?  We await your detailed explanation.

HE WILL PRESENT NOTHING at all that he can demonstrate is incorrect or evidence of insanity at all.

If you do not agree with laudas trust abuse YOU should be countering it. Else how else will the pseudo decentralized system of control have ANY chance?

Actually the entire blame for lauda being allowed to act like this is squarely at door of people like you and suchmoon (since theymos will not act)

You and suchmoon both employ double standards and try to weaponize gamed metrics against those that speak up against lauda and the gamed systems.

You can see suchmoon is now going after QS with accusations such as LIAR, ACCOUNT SELLER. When at the same time KNOWS Lauda is a liar and scammer but includes them on DT. At the same time knows nutildah sold or tried to sell his account in his own words KNOWING and believing HE was facilitating scammers and snitchmoon is not interested in seeing them punished at all. NO would rather support  them and include them on DT.  Suchmoon is not an excellent member, she is a fat (really fat) piece of snitching double standards untrustworthy shit. Never achieved anything here except whack a mole crap that does nothing and enabling real scammers and liars to gain access to positions of trust and power here. That is NET NEGATIVE, most of the crap it writes (with regard the control systems) is observably incorrect and pure moronic trash that she invents to keep people like herself and lauda in power here. Copy and paste is here weapon to silence any LEGITIMATE criticism. Along with post deletion because she can not win a reasoned debate due to being a full on fool.

Same for you the smarmacist. Commenting on other financially motivated  shit posters and trolls whilst having YOURSELF having a sneaky sock puppet aka Huge Black Woman account to sig spam and racist troll on whilst jumping from sig campaign to sig campaign to find the highest rates to spam at.  Sneaky, double standards and smarmy. Untrustworthy.  It is one thing doing it but then trying to punish other for it and lecturing them is disgusting.

None of you are interested in creating a transparent and fair environment where everyone gets treated equally. You all want to collude and just create a system where you feel some power and some are just after the best sig spots and escrowing deals etc.

Theymos must be stupid if he does not see this. The observable instances of you all just pushing double standards and weaponizing crap like copy and paste or deleted posts (reporting all someones one word posts from 7 years of history trying to get them banned)

Lauda is allowed to act like this because of gang of corrupt goons around him and theymos just sitting there watching it all trying to gage how much use lauda can be compared to how much damage he can do. This is not how it should work. If people are untrustworthy and scamming and abusing others then black list them.

Anyone who does not want a transparent fair environment where people are all treated equally should be removed from any positions of trust or power.

There is no other way. You are just trying to polish a turd here by tweaking these systems. If lauda was removed, another lauda and his gang will take their place with even more sneaky people like suchmoon and the pharmacist around them to keep them in power.

No, they are just too spineless to say anything about it, or take any action regarding it. I would liken it to a cop watching another cop break the law and beat on a suspect while cuffed. Sure they didn't beat the guy, but they sure kept their mouth shut didn't they? I wouldn't quite call that innocent, hence why they all get lumped into the same corrupt bunch.

No, I highly doubt anyone is creating DT/trust/merit/whatever drama threads just to crank out posts for signature campaigns.  Nor do I think the people involved in or who are even discussing the drama in these threads are doing so in order to increase their post counts.  I can speak for myself only, of course, but they're some of the most interesting threads around, and in so far as I'm on DT and know a little bit about some of the players, I do have opinions to add to some of these threads.

As far as campaign managers not counting posts in threads related to such drama, I doubt that's going to happen.  Are there even that many sig campaigns left?  I haven't looked at the services section in a long time, and I have signatures blocked. 

Not true.  You are making the mistake I've seen so many people make around here, which is to lump all the DT members and their ratings into Lauda's.  Not every DT member agrees with all of Lauda's feedback or with each other's for that matter.  Infighting is not unknown within the DT list, you know.

Thank you for stating the truth without being counter-aggressive.

Sounds like a lot of speculation, and groundless accusations with NO observable instances to substantiate it.

COMPARED TO

The observable instances of your own lying and scamming lauda?

Why should the board believe anything a PROVEN liar and scammer, probable extortionist and shady escrow has to say without them presenting observable instances as evidence?

Let's compare the actions of this user against your own OBSERVABLE actions and see who is more deserving of red trust?

@Khaos77

Yes, lauda is just a dirty euro trash scamming skank. That is not in doubt. The observable instances can not be altered.

This latest threat by lauda to give scam tags to any honest member that even trades with QS is another brazen fuck off to theymos who has said scam tags should be for scammers or those you can present a STRONG case of intent to scam.

You do touch on a rather more worrying issue than lauda itself: Theymos's support of lauda and his abuse. We are waiting to see how far he will allow lauda to go. Then again how much further can one go than allowing red trust to be used to silence whistle blowing and reporting scamming actions by the DT scammers themselves. Perhaps there is some small hope,  he seemed to allow vod to abuse for a certain period of time then reached out and bitch slapped vods fat ass when he really went to far. Perhaps lauda's going to get his in due course.

Perhaps hoping from intervention from the warden of the board is the wrong approach. It would be a formality to force lauda and his gang out but you would need to unite all those that are abused and for some senior members that don't like each other all that much to call a truce until the job is done. As we have said before lauda and gang are not vulnerable directly via the broken systems of control. However their sponsors are vulnerable by sponsoring OBSERVABLE  scammers and abusers, it is just a matter of applying sufficient pressure to the sponsors/campaign managers and keeping it up to cause enough friction for the sponsors to realize it is time to part ways with those scammers and abusers.

It is not rocket science. You just need a bunch of UNITED determined people who want to see a transparent fair environment where each member is treated equally. Not a bunch of fragmented individuals who are ONLY interested in getting THEIR OWN red trust removed or to secretly just wish they could be part of such a gang themselves.

Kiklo/Zin-Zang crying won't bring you anywhere. ZEIT is a dead shitcoin, and lying won't revive it. Dodging existing ratings via the use of alt accounts makes the user even shadier, i.e. even more deserving of even more ratings.

Just to cause a nuisance?

Please take a break from filling this board with your turd world feltching for btc dust lies and untrustworthy crap.

The thread is based on OBSERVABLE INSTANCES of behavior that is a  CLEAR ABUSE of the trust system. This is IMPOSSIBLE to deny you moronic asslicker.

This is not a nuisance, this is preventing the crappy trust system from damaging the free speech of this board.

YOU and your turd world trash pals/alts are the nuisance here. Look at you and your new sig. You are here ONLY to do or say anything to scavenge some extra btc scraps or shit tokens. The only thing transparent about you is that you will say or do anything to make some extra bucks.

If you keep repeating your observably incorrect LIES then you must be exposed on this board for the net negative and untrustworthy shit stain you are.

How can presenting observable instances of abuse by lauda in attempts to punish persons for pushing for clarity on their actions be a nuisance?   STFU

That makes the DT system very subjective and any opposition for me makes it quite healthy. There should be lefties to balance things out cause if all are in the right side there will be a huge problem. Keep barking doggo



Thank goodness problem solved.

Or simple, campaign managers should stop counting post made in DT/feedbacks drama threads but are this guys creating this topics because they're paid to via signature? I doubt so. If you're speaking of post via replies that can be understandable but for post via started topics I doubt it'll have any effect because this guy's create this type of posts just to cause nuisance.

It's a bit off-topic, but I have an idea, why not make a script to disable signature appearance in any topics relate to DT drama? I predict that somehow we might see less topics created.  If the forum can solve Yobit signature, there is same solution for DT drama topics 

How about now that you haven't been tagged, what does that prove?

We aren't kids here, we should know when politicking is involve in a feedback and when it's genuine. Green trust doesn't guarantee a user is trustworthy neither does red tag, it only means you should be extremely cautious. We shouldn't rely on the trust score but read the feedback and confirm using reference. Genuine feedbacks always have one.

It's funny, because if what I'm saying was nonsense/irrelevant, this thread wouldn't have this many replies.

It's facts. It's time for a change.

who are you too? a suckpuppet ass licking moron who keeps supporting a losing side? well your abuses will come to an end,your turn might not be today but it will come sucker.

I have no more time to waste for this forum however anyone who is interrested can digg in your history and see that during the massive red flag attack you talked with Lauda and the group openly to enforce your point of view to force all project owners to ONLY accept your choosen campaign managers and if somebody would reject you would defame him as scammer and kick him out of bitcointalk not important if he had a legit project.

Your thoughts are already dangerous for the forum and everything in the name of securing the forum.

From what do we know that bullshit explanation ?

Ahh i know from our beloved governments who wants more and more control for our safty against terrorist.

Sounds very similar to me

@Vod am still waiting for you big mouth to confirm your account.

So because I trust Lauda (we have traded multiple times with me sending first) that makes me a bad guy? I never join in on any of these little forum battles between people, as I am here to read about bitcoin etc... not join in the drama fest. I am not even DT1 these days so my ratings do not carry much weight like they used too anyways.

xolxol

He's telling the lies obviously,i would need a detailed explanation or a reference to what he's claiming Vod is a total moronic idiot who loses his reputation recently because of OG.Blazed you know Lauda and his abusive colleagues are the real problem in the community,should u close your eyes to see the real thing and pretend that theres nothing wrong like what theymos is doing.

Fine, but the accusation is stupid and has no proof.

Theymos verifying that would set a bad precedence that Thule's claims should be taken seriously....

Not just my opinion - at least a dozen people agree he is not trustworthy.

I have no clue what your first statement is about, but I have never forced anyone here to do anything. This account was not bought and where would you come up with something so silly?


Just a made up statement and Theymos could easily verify that my account has never changed hands or any old school person I have ever dealt with.

Hold up, blazed account is bought? Where is the proof of that.
There is no way I would believe that.

Lauda? where did you go? you didn't answer my last question about your observable lying and scamming?  We were having a nice chat? don't run away like that. I felt our relationship was starting to bloom.

Explain why this kind of deception for direct financial gain is not worthy of red on its own?  Let's forget all your other shady stuff "for now". This is SCAMMING pure and simple.  Why can you scam others ?  then give red trust to those that present observable instances that demonstrate what you are REALLY LIKE?  

I mean that question should be to ALL DT MEMBERS here but we know they're all a bunch of scared ass licking gimps like LFC and VOD so perhaps it's best to address you alone and hear you excuses rather than those excuses you order your bitches to relay on your behalf.

See how you have ZERO power over us? we can just sit here and say whatever we like to your face (so long as it is true and verifiable ) and you can do NOTHING about it except add more red marks or order other servile skanks you control to add their own red marks.

Well you can run away that's for sure like you just did and AVOID the question. See how we bitch slap you around like a pathetic piece of shit lol? The observable instances are ALL on our side. They don't fade either, bitch slapping you now or in a year or 5 years will be equally as fun.

You lied and scammed, now you think you can use scam tags to cover your tracks and bully others around. Your goons are laughable if they are not debunking their own arguments they are getting busted as scammers and liars too or sending incriminating PM's or just looking like ass kissing dregs and are more of an embarrassment than useful accomplices.

I will pose this same question to you every time you reply to me, so get forming your best excuse (better than under cover agents please, have some dignity) so we can laugh in your face.

This latest threat to red tag any honest member that buys something from QS will be your undoing and that of DT.  If any of them were worth a shit they would have told you outright by now that is unacceptable. You can not brand honest members with scam tags for buying something here?  Still it's great for us. Another great item to bitch slap you and your servile bunch of rag tag scum around with for which they will have NO answer.


@everyone

Tman is likely bullshitting anyway, until we see the PM from lauda to Tman and tmans reply telling lauda to fuck off then it is probably safe to strike that off as pure nonsense.

Maybe because you're on DT too? Never would've considered that as a factor? 

@blazed you punk openly talked with Lauda and the gang to force on project owners who start an ICO on bitcointalk to accept your rules to only accept campaign managers you allow or else you are going to defame them as scammers.

About adding the abusers in power and allowing the massiv red flood i won't even mention anymore.

You clearly deserve to be degraded for that plan.



BTW isn't your account bought ?

very true..

your still a cunt though cat

His "fuck off" can mean a hundred things. You need context.

To be fair, "fuck off" from you is roughly equivalent to "aight mate".

you know Lauda once asked me about someone on my trust-list, my answer was "fuck off cat" and guess what, im still here - not ded, not off DT, the cat isn't some dodgy forum deity, all you pricks having daily Lauda wanks really need to get a life.

Flawless logic as usual Suchgoon.

You two complaining about it is proof that it works quite well.

Nothing would have happened to him the same way nothing has happened to others. However, pajeet joe's always need someone to blame. I'm fine with being the flying catbat witch so that the monkeys like CH have a totem to scream at.

Show me an observable instance where I acted in bad faith.

I am not sticking up for scammers either. I am just not accepting your biased assumtions you call evidence.

Lauda asked him, but if LFC didn't exclude BILL from his list and didn't tagged him.....  Then nothing would of happened to LFC, he got a request and probably shared opinion on the matter..... all of this is just so blown up.

Just to now? @The-One-Above-All where do you contribute? Cause I know for sure its much less then what I try to do for this kind community....

Btw just as you accuse memers to "kiss ass"....  you probably do the same for others + using an ALT account for doing that, also that long post? Seriously I hang off after line 3 ....

Try and put all of this effort in some BTC-related stuff, then maybe you can reach people and be helpful or whatever...

Perhaps you should have read the rest of the post jackass. Your history of sticking up for scammers and acting in bad faith has not gone unnoticed.

As stated, the problem is people are not held accountable for having someone in their trust list that has no business being on a reputable persons trust list.

Keep Barking Dawg.

Gonna sit still and watch.
(Thanks for Mentioning my name, I almost missed the hot events)

---

The Queen of Cats guides us. The Queen of Cats teaches us. The Queen of Cats protects us. In your light we thrive. In your mercy we are sheltered. In your wisdom we are humbled. We live only to serve. Our lives are yours.

The problem is that we can now easily kick out his alts and goons.

And the problem is........?

So if a member decides to buy something QS puts up for sale for a good price (seems sensible and both parties agree and are happy) and gets to test if some scamming liar (lauda) is just bluffing and bullying at the same time is now....  A SCAMMER ?? haha how would that be lauda?

Who is getting scammed? both parties know the deal neither is getting scammed. You know they know you know (hope you get that) so you are not getting scammed either you have a choice whether to trust abuse their account or not. They are testing you whilst conducting a legit sale. Explain how it is untrustworthy or scamming? I fail to see how it is untrustworthy or scamming.  

Someone buying something they want and testing if you are lying or not at the same time is not scamming or untrustworthy. You simply should not make trust abusing threats in public or you MAY get called on them then you will need to trust abuse or just look like another lying bluffing bully. We would buy it for sure if it was something we wanted but then you could say we had red already so deserved it because we dared to present observable instances of you lying and scamming previously. Of course those that present evidence of lying and scamming need red trust LOL.

Needs to be someone with no red and some balls. The sale needs to be legit though and indeed not just a test transaction.

Dance monkey

Afraid to answer what exactly? I'll answer you if you answer me first.

Why did you LIE that you were there on the xcoin/dark launch and there was NO instamine. ?? Just because you held bags of xcoin/dark what gave you the right to LIE to investors and try to scam them into believing the initial distribution was legit? You've had years to dream up some elaborate excuse. Let's hear it scammer?

Afraid to answer?

Any member that does a transaction with QS in order to test out my rating is inherently scamming untrustworthy.

Too afraid to answer?

Have another go monkey. Read above.

Let me guess? No premine? You were there on the launch and can guarantee tokens were fairly distributed?

Sorry must have missed that one lauda.

@yogg - by theymos, because it is impossible he can allow lauda to threaten any honest member that buys something from QS with a scam tag. If it is not removed we will persist in asking theymos why he allows it to remain.  Let's see if that tag still remains the same in 1 month.  Either way it serves its purpose.

I dare QS to list something for sale at a good price and another person buys it , see if lauda is full of shit or not.

Forced ? By whom ?
I'm guessing that ... you're guessing wrong. The same wrong that you have been in during those last few months
(no need for blobs of text to transmit ideas, see ?)

Why are you mad though? Maybe you invested in BitConnect?

No of course not mad. You are merely a useful and willing example to be made of why the systems of control are broken and must be scrapped. Every new and extreme abuse of the system by you and your complicit goons  just assists the changes come more swiftly and more dramatically.

Your influence over us is zero. You do not realize it, but you are our bitch. Keep dancing monkey. Step up your abuse please we do not see the critical mass required as yet to apply enough pressure to the festering boil of merit and trust.

You will help not only take out yourself but ALL of the sniveling wretches that support your abuse. Some we note are already taking a softer form of support for you. It will crumble away all at once when they realize their sigs are more vulnerable by supporting you than helping cast you down.

I'm guessing you will be forced to remove that red on QS soon or change the wording. If not we will be using that frequently to demonstrate just how broken the trust system is. Either way it was another assistance toward our goal. thanks monkey.

Maggiordomo notified me that my username is somewhere in this post.
It's an OBSERVABLE fact that I have trouble to see where it is. Maybe 4 letters where not enough in the first place ?
I don't have time to decode and go through all that BS produced by a whimmy kid.
Who does ? Is there someone reading all that trash ?

These BLOBS of text really belong to the garbage. I wonder how many times can one write the same thing in different ways ?

CH, what you could have achieved in putting all this time doing constructive things ?

Micgoosens is low functioning so the readers should strike his comments from the thread. His comments are misleading and off topic.

His posts were deleted as WE EXPLAINED to him already because he was not discussing the implications of the observable instance in the OP. There is no point allowing "noise".  We were discussing the implications of LFC admission that he takes orders from lauda and therefore anything he does is suspect and that he is nothing more than a proxy of laudas will now.

There is no point hearing that you think he is cool. That does not relate to the specific point the OP is making. If you have talked to him and he seems a nice guy that is noise. It is about him serving laudas purposes and bolstering anything lauda says or does. EXACTLY as he is doing here. HE is laudas bitch. Him seeming nice or not is not relevant.

After explaining this to you then you should then post ON TOPIC AND RELEVANT information only to that thread. For instance you have evidence that gives reasonable rebuttal to the observable instance we presented. Many sly fucks SEEM NICE.

NOW this is all very relevant because this is how lauda's gang operates. Lauda and a few others are the central bad eggs :tman, owlcatz, yogg and a couple of others, they then have a circle of others that directly support their actions : LFC, vod, suchmoon, foxpoop, pharmacist, new anon, etc... you then have the lower level dregs cabalism13, cryptobrainboss, cryptovator, yoshie  who seek favor and merits to power up their sigs.

The bad eggs and their direct supporters grant access via merits and inclusions to those they feel they can control. Any stepping out of line are excluded and trolled. The supporters add weight of numbers noise to everything to decry and drown out any observable instances they want to remain hidden.

The system is designed in such away that failure was guaranteed from the outset. When you create systems that incentivizes and rewards financially abuse and gaming and then leave them wide open to abuse and gaming it should come as no surprise they are gamed and abused lol

Lauda acts like this because he believes he is untouchable and since when you have you group controlling a massive proportion of the merits thus now the TRUST  and can include and exclude as a large group then you are untouchable via the broken systems of control.

Now we have a situation where lauda not only uses red trust to silence the presentation of observable instances in its past that demonstrate lying and scamming, probable extortion and shady escrow on his part ......he now believes he can threaten others with ruining their account and taking away their capacity to earn on this forum. NOW he is going further and saying I can take away your sig, I can not only make it hard for you to trade but I can and will threaten others that I will do the same to them if they even dare to trade with you, regardless of whether they have done anything wrong at all.

You would reason that ANY DT with ANY BALLS in light of what THEYMOS has said about red trust being for SCAMMERS ONLY would immediately say " hey lauda you are not allowed to give red tags to honest members that may just buy something from QS, That is totally wrong"

DO YOU SEE ANY DT'S saying that?? NO YOU DONT you see them all diverting and saying QS is bad or We are untrustworthy for saying lauda is out of control.  Now you realize it is not just lauda. The entire DT is weak and servile a bunch of nerds and gimps that dare not do the RIGHT thing.

The big question is why THEYMOS wants people like lauda in DT and wants them to have 300 green trust after all they have done here? and allows them to punish whistleblowers and now honest members that may just trade with certain members lauda does not like? why would theymos allow the trust system be used to FACILITATE SCAMMING??  the entire thing is crazy and very worrying. Theymos may not realize it but HE is facilitating scamming by allowing all of this to happen with his full knowledge. Theymos has in effect pushed the threshold for RED for lauda so high that now every member that lies for financial gain, has strong evidence to suggest they try to extort others, bully others to hide their past untrustworthy actions and look to have pulled a shady escrow can only be called "gray".  If you compared most red tagged members here I wonder how they would compared to Lauda?? If theymos allows a system where by whilstle blowing (even with hard evidence and observable instances) you know you will be red tagged THEN YOU WILL NOT WHISTLE BLOW and that facilitates scamming. It is simply undeniable.

I mean pharmacist decides not to say "lauda you can not do that because it is wrong, I will reverse any negs you give honest members for trading with QS"  NO , he says " after the evidence lauda lied for financial gain (scamming) the strong evidence he tried to extort, and I do not know if he was shady with the ecrow .............oh well he has busted some scammers so I think he is cool anyway. NO MENTION on his opinion of what lauda has just done at all??

LFC starts saying it is all QS fault why honest members that trade with him will get red from lauda? who would expect anything else from laudas felching clown?

Micgoosens is saying --- this issue does not come out of thin air? WTF does that even mean for the honest members that will trade with QS and have their accounts flagged as scammers. This is why idiots need to be cut out from discussions. He can't say why but he just suspects the fact honest members will be branded scammers for buying something off of another member is somehow deserved??

Most here only  care about keeping their sig and an easy life here. These types have no place in positions of trust and power. Lauda is just a symptom if it was not them the systems would enable others to fill his shoes.

Most DT's are garbage  and merit and trust system is garbage. Scrap it all.  Keep fiddling with it and tweaking it is pointless and causing more harm. We rub our hands with glee at the number of pissed off abused people here growing daily, but really it would be better if we had a transparent fair environment where people in positions of power treated ALL members equally or were removed and blacklisted.

You can NOT polish a turd.


Building ANY system on top of merit is a guaranteed failure before it starts.
 

We have to suffer this bullshit for YEARS because Theymos is too embarrassed to admit he went too fucking far creating his little tool of personal retribution and refuses to admit his mistake.

Nice, yet failed stategy - thinking that this will prevent you from receiving deserved negative trust. CH 2.0? Why do you care, and where did you purchase this account from[1]? Maybe Quickscammer himself?

There is absolutely nothing wrong with this. It will contain the spreading of the disease and has already been applied before in many different situations. Furthermore, nobody legitimate has every said anything against this particular way of handling it.

You indulge IT by saying that. In my view, IT is insignificant to the point that IT makes no impact on anyone.

---

Postface: Random baboon singling me out for nonsense usually backfires dramatically. I'm guessing at some point you will go on a lying tantrum or we will discover [1] to be true. It's all about those patterns. Tick-tock.

---

Postface 2:

^ ^ Are you just spamming known information to show off your signature?  

The ability to exclude a person from your trust list harmed the trust system. Instead of holding a person accountable for including someone who should not be in their trust list, users now have the option of excluding the person who should not be in the trust network.

When you add a person to your trust list, you are trusting both their ratings, and their trust list. If user "x" leaves a lot of good ratings, but has one bad person in their trust list, they should either remove the person from their trust list, or not be in your trust list.

You are fine with that, as long as it is everyone else practicing it and you get to use these as tools of retribution for yourself and your pals right? GREAT IDEA! I will totally endorse this then not practice it at all!

I'm fine with that course of action too. It's the OP who seems to be unhappy with merely bitching about it and says "something must be done immediately".

Yeah, why would you just voice your displeasure in a post and reserve the trust system for trust related matters like an adult instead of using it as a system to arbitrarily punish your enemies? WHAT A CONCEPT!

What lies were said about me? I am not one to stir the pot, but would love to hear how I have somehow scammed someone...

makes 0 sense to give bad trust to someone legit transacting with someone else

This shit's definitely gone too far. If only there was something else we could do, like maybe theymos could implement a forum feature allowing us to express our displeasure or even - gasp - distrust of certain individuals so that we wouldn't need 15 threads about each one.

I'd like to contribute.  When OG was pretending to be my friend for free advertising, he told me many lies about Lauda.  I removed my trust for Lauda, and for a period even had Lauda excluded from my trust network.  OG told me similar lies about Blazed.

Nothing bad happened to me other than OG posting PMs taken out of context, as usual.   Thank goodness we got that sorted out. 

Again, I have no love for Quickseller, but now Lauda is proscribing who is allowed to deal with who around here? When I say this place is turning into a digital version of East Germany the comparison becomes more appropriate every day. These are literal Communist tactics of unpersoning. You guys are cool with this trend? You think it won't affect you because  you are "one of the boys"? It just hasn't been your turn yet... it will be.



Start publicly criticizing one of the priest class and see how long you still believe that. This constant grievance posting is a direct result of everyone ignoring these abuses and is only going to continue to increase because everyone wants to bury their head in the sand and pretend there is no basis for these complaints.

If I was short with you--and I don't doubt I was--please accept my apologies.  There are times when my emotions get the better of me and good members of bitcointalk get caught in the crossfire. 

Yeah, I genuinely do not understand what went on with that escrow thing.  That's the truth, and I did read the thread(s) relating to that matter to the best of my ability, and that ability is limited in some cases.

The extortion thing is a divisive issue.  Either you believe it was a sting operation gone wrong or you believe it truly was an extortion attempt.  I fall on the side of it being a sting--and an ill-conceived one that obviously backfired very badly.

In my real life job, most of the people I come in contact with have been to jail, and there are no angels or saints present in the building.  During the time I've worked there I've come to accept that 1) everyone has told a lie at some point, and 2) people's character should not be defined by their best or worst act.  Thus I am able to forgive certain indiscretions depending on the severity, and I'm also able to tolerate a certain amount of crap from members here if they have otherwise proven themselves to be trusted and valuable members of the community.  And of course there is a limit to that. 

But I think very carefully before giving a neg to someone on DT, for example, or a very senior member with a good reputation.  Their transgressions would have to be blatant and severe for me to give them negative trust.  Every case is different.

Lauda has done a hell of a lot to keep scammers and other shitballs at bay.  If you combine that with the fact that I don't believe Lauda is an extortionist and can't determine the escrow thing, you'll understand why I've stepped in to defend him/her/it/we/you/them from time to time.

^
I am far from DT1 ..... and kiss no ass of nobody, except my GF's....

I can say who I like and who I don't, but as you are an instant post deleting member (in you pathetic thread about LFC) I feel i'm right to say you are untrustworthy by those actions that you do!!!, when someone brings you back the discussion you opened then you don't delete replies in that annoying self-moderated b*tch thread you got there!

I don't know Lauda only thing I know is he/she is wearing an XhomerX custum HAT and those are always been granted to good members imo

As LFC is always been good member who I talk and communicate with a lot....

The pharmacist is not someone I have ever talked with, but read some opinions on matters of him and they are to be respected a lot, cause most of the times right on the point and well helping (maybe a little short to me one time ) But then again he's one of the most liked members when I read many different opinions and that doesn't come easily....




Then the one-above-a-pile-of-sh*t is liked by no one, no one cares about what he has to say and he's annoying AF, also lack of normal civilised communicating and thats a very important aspect of being in this online space.

Lauda and his friends use red trust as a weapon to silence whistleblowers.  They are using red trust to facilitate scamming.

If you present any observable instances from laudas history here he does not want know, he will red trust you. This is clearly not what red trust is for but theymos does not even seem to care . Or perhaps you have a point but if you are rude to lauda (after that scammer ruins your account) then you don't have a point anymore you just did have a point you are now just crazy for being pissed off.

You notice his 2 main ass kissers LFC and the pharmacist are here to protect and stick up for lauda as usual.

LFC is laudas fucking cocksucker  


laudas bitch puppet


The pharmacist said in public he does not know if lauda did a shady escrow or not but will defend him anyway out of loyalty.
You will get little support in meta.
The pharmacist is there on the extortion thread protecting him.  Basically most times you see lauda called out the pharmacist will be there smarming away trying to smooth it over and protect his actions.

The entire DT list is full of liars, scammers, untrustworthy scum and those that support those types of people.

Lauda is perhaps the central character but there are 10 or 15 hardcore lauda thralls or alts all meriting each other and including each other on DT and excluding similar people. It is a closed system and no way to oust them.

Since theymos is the only person that can get them out and he designed  the system that put them all straight back on DT and says they are "gray" after all they have done.

Nobody here will support what you are saying against lauda. It is a waste of time, you are dealing with a bunch of corrupt scammers, liars and the rest are trembling asskissing gimps who don't dare do shit. What a joke giving these dregs positions of trust and responsibility. Well they gave them to each other really via the super robust anti collusion merit/trust system someone made up on april fools and forgot to switch off again.

Expect moronbozo, foxpoop, the newanon, yogg, owlcatz, tman, suchmoon, hhampuz etc  all the sniveling wretches here to support laudas actions soon.

Lauda will turn up to tell you theymos is now the student and he is the master just to rub it in how screwed the board is now.

then your thread will just go to rep to join the grave yard of lauda is a piece of shit with all the other threads.

Vod even says you dare not speak out against him or he ruins your account

https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.50915510

With the amount of posts you have you may as well write off that account, they will find some reason to fuck with you soon enough now.

Meta is an echo chamber for corrupt DT's and proven scammers from the past.

I had to click on that trust link to read that was true, so lauda is saying if you buy something or make a deal with QS he will give you a red tag??  well he does give red out for presenting observable instances about himself so anything is possible. The rest of DT will condone it don't worry about that.  JOKE OF A SYSTEM.

Regarding the bolded part of your statement above, you're talking about Lauda and the tagging of people who deal with Quickseller here--please keep in mind that Lauda is one member out of many on DT and is the only one doing that as far as I know.

As for the need to tag accounts, I would suggest that there is a lot of tagging that does need to be done.  Scamming is allowed on this forum, as are a lot of other shady activities that won't result in a ban or any action by a moderator or Theymos.  And yeah, that leaves justice pretty much in the hands of DT members, and there are some judgements that will be controversial and won't agree with. 

I'm not saying anything one way or another about Lauda's statement.  I'm just saying that this doesn't represent how the entire DT system works.

Still if QS would have an item for sell around few BTC of price that I would really like and its in auction or something, then I would definitely buy that.....

Only I have always bought on good trust with people, every trade I have send first and received all of my buyings ... In a situation with QS I would just use escrow by MJ to be sure all goes good, and i'm sure in this kind of trade, Lauda wouldn't leave red trust (that would be insane imo) but I just take his saying more as a manner of speaking, not to be bothered with to much.

Not that I maybe ever will be in the situation what I just presented... but I think its just something that apply for more members.

I haven't been in QS situation myself, but what I read from many other members just makes me think that its probably not coming out of thin air....

I have never tagged anyone for being critical and there were a lot of sock puppet scammers doing exactly that. I also never responded to criticism with trolling, but instead responded to concerns. I also never prevented any scammer from being labeled as such.

Thank you very much.

Quickseller used to be a top-notch sheriff policeman on duty 24/7 who was praised and trusted for doing so. It's a pattern

Support? You're a part of the problem, you do/used to do the same things.

Do you realise that Quickseller has a tarnished reputation here?
He was a very trustworthy guy but has several indiscretions against his name. He has numerous negative trust comments left by high ranking users. He’s not some innocent noob who got wrongly tagged.

I don’t think you know what you’re talking about in all honesty. You’re not going to get tagged for this thread but you’re probably going to get verbally destroyed for it.

Good luck.

Edit - Lol, this was suspiciously quick (pardon the pun)

I don’t know the OP, but I appreciate the support.

Lauda clearly isn't fit for the position, she cannot accept criticism without further abusing her position and calling it "FUD, trolling", or other words she uses to cover up these truthful posts.

Preface: By posting this, I 100% expect abusive negative trust, which further proves my point.

I *never* get involved with forum politics, but I have seen too much! I think that something must be done immediately regarding the abusive negative trust and over-policing of this forum. At this point, it has gone to the point where forum activity and growth is slowing down because members like me are starting to leave/become inactive due to how badly managed the trust system is. Let's take a look at some recent trust ratings. Take a look at a screenshot of trust Lauda has left Quickseller: https://gyazo.com/d69255a43ec4475ea391a6485dafb7f7

If you deal with this user you will get burned, and I will tag you as well.

What? Is Lauda staff to be doing something like that? Deal with Quickseller, and you get a red tag? This is too much, by not doing something, we are allowing this kind of abuse. I have had enough. Fix the situation, or suffer the consequences of declining growth, a toxic atmosphere, and abusive elite-rank members who ultimately we don't even need tagging most of the accounts anyways.

Please discuss.