Topic: What a shame (Read 585 times)

There is no total freedom in this world since we still need to deal with restrictions which in fact can be beneficial if used properly. Traditionally speaking, once the government says that it is harmful, they are only weighing the pros and cons about things, but mostly it is not that they are totally banning everything and they'd become a dictator, coz what actually they are trying to convey is to warn us about the cons, and as you've said they have more ways to control over the usage of cryptocurrency if they wanted to, such as banning it. It's just that most people generally consider it as bad just because someone opposed the idea or just giving us warning about what might happen.

So far, it can be said that the government has completely failed to stop or control the bitcoin network. But they still have many ways to make it difficult for us to use bitcoin without their permission. Honestly, we will never escape their control, they will have a lot of ways to manage us. Bitcoin can only give us partial freedom, it cannot bring us complete freedom as many people are still dreaming of.

Many years ago, my country completely banned bitcoin, using bitcoin was very difficult even many people were arrested and fined when found using bitcoin. It can be said that with such use of evasion, it cannot be called freedom.

The government system isn't wrong but what actually turns like it was difficult to understand is these people who implement the rules and abuse their power. People are relying on the government as they believe that would help us to grow and improve our living but unfortunately, these powerful people that are in the position ruin it makes us not trust them anymore. Because if we just keep following them, nothing will happen to us but just a puppet to them, and the more the become powerful.

In my opinion, if the government takes a wrong decision that is causing harm to the people, then it should be protested. No government can implement policies to the detriment of its people. Every government thinks of the benefit of its people. If the government anywhere feels that this thing is not in the interest of their people and it can harm their people, then they make laws to protect their citizens. Obeying the laws of the state is mandatory for every citizen, but the condition is that the state takes care of the legitimate rights of its people and the people are also happy with their state.

But if the state cannot give basic rights to its people and impose new restrictions on them every day, then one should not be bound by anything of such a state.

It has been years that I stopped watching daily news and yeah never read news papers for many years now and that is the reason why.
like what you said , some of us that people are still living with government stand and what they tell them to believe.

This is a shame to those who has this attitude till now when they can forget about the government because internet is open and we read and find everything that we need to understand.

But of course better not to believe in everything , check and dig deep before following what internet says.

But if the government bans it, we will also face many difficulties in using bitcoin, and the risk of detection will be very heavy. They can't ban bitcoin outright, but we don't feel comfortable using bitcoin either. And the one who suffers the most is still us, not them. Going against the government has never yielded good results, so I hope the government never completely bans bitcoin.

If our school system is built to teach citizens to be part of the military, we'd all be warriors invading countries nearby. But we're not.

They don't really need to start teaching Bitcoin at such early age. They could start with money first.
The entire school system is built entirely for people to become a worker/employees of big businesses. But when school teaches how money works and finance works, they may not find employees anymore. They'd get out of that rat race and work for their own and become a trader themselves. This will have some effect in the future though. Its why students should have choices.

True, but even then their power still has limits, for decades governments have been fighting against the illegal downloading of copyrighted content, yet this practice is widespread all over the world, and while once in a while there are cases which make the news about a person being charged millions of dollars because of their downloads, we can say the majority of those people get away with it.

So I doubt the governments are going to have the resources to try to identify and arrest every single person using bitcoin within their territory if they decided to make it illegal.

Well I don't think people really know what the law implies about bitcoin  in my country, and what the government  of my country was trying to saying is that, transacting with bitcoin  isn't  bad, but anyone doing so, should be doing so at their absolute  risk and have no right to report such cases as related  to bitcoin  and cryptocurrency at large if things go wrong.

I don't blame the lecturer if he thinks so of bitcoin  bit the truth  is that seeing is believing  and the lecturer  might not believe  in the system except if his shown how it works and I believe  one of the reasons that made your own father believed in it was because you were closer to him and he could see the improvements on your life through bitcoin.

I believe  the lecturers son isn't a child anyone, and should be old enough to make decisions for his future and hence this is when he needs you more and you shouldn't get discouraged  because of his father and you should try as much as possible  to help the poor make wise decisions  now that he can rather than  making regrets tomorrow.

Government cannot censor the Bitcoin network because it is decentralized and there is no base of operation where they can barge in and confiscate everything and imprison people who are on the vicinity.  But Government has the power to ban Bitcoin and implement law that can arrest people who are engaging with Bitcoin trading.  That is the sad reality. Government still has the authority in its jurisdiction.  Besides, the government can control the centralized exchanges where most people are trading Bitcoin and other cryptocurrency.

Our freedom with Bitcoin is limited within the Bitcoin Network, when it pass through centralized exchanges to convert it to cash or trade it to other cryptocurrency, the freedom is compromised because centralized exchanges are subject to government regulation.

Not sure what his dad told him wrong. His dad was right. The government controls the finances of the country. It is the government of that country that can decided which currency is going to be a legal tender and which is not. His dad never discouraged him to use bitcoin. So I don't know why his son would loose interest in Bitcoin. As long as bitcoin is legal to use in their country, it is fine to invest and use it. Most of the country hasn't made bitcoin a legal tender, yet they all still use it as a currency without any issue. If you spent "tow hours" lecturing students about Bitcoin and blockchain, then there isn't anything to worry about since I am sure you already explained to them what a legal tender is and why they can still use bitcoin even if it isn't a legal tender.

If the government cares for the people;
Provides for the people in terms of employment and social needs;
If government upholds the right of the citizens;
If the government secures lives and properties of her citizens;
There is no harm to believe the government.
It is when the wrong people enters power and abuse it that makes people lose confidence in the government.
Assuming government has a way to fight inflation, a high rank government worker, who has government retirement plans and running businesses, will the person have any need for bitcoin?

Having people clamouring unto the government for there safety isn't exactly a bad thing. Besides, you operate in a jurisdiction and this jurisdiction is guided by certain laws and regulations that ensures the orderliness of things.

The bad news is, having so much trust in a system, believing that this is one way to be right always and that the government would do you right always is some way to leave all your reasoning to the government and when they ride on you, you don't even get to notice. That's just how bad it is.

People needs to make use of there brains or have it used for them by someone else or a group even.

You got it right!

If people do reach out the pinnacle of success then they wouldnt really be bothering on involving into other things but rather would be sticking into something which we know that its part of their success.
They wouldnt really be that open into some new ideas and innovation which is something that its really inevitable.There are really just that people who are really that having that close minded
approach on something new that they would be hearing off.

On the time that they would be seeing or hearing it and make out some direct conclusions that it is a scam or something a fraud then there's nothing we could blame them since its their mindset and believe.
Once they would be changing up their minds, they would really be approaching you and would be asking  further questions but of course most of these type of people would make their
own research and would be verifying for themselves on what it is.

i don't blame them, I mean, in their position, they are living a life where they are content with what they have and don't need to change anything.  if you live the life you want, have a house, a car, and a high income… your life is perfect, then you have no reason to change it. We should not blame anyone because everyone has a different perspective and way of looking at life.  we look to bitcoin because we are looking for wealth, while many people don't need it because they already have it.

Changes always takes time and so called gurus or influencers try to stop the changes. There is a big ego behind that, those people don't want people to follow the change or embrace it, they want people to follow them and their old way. Thats why don't follow others blindly, do your own research.

Well, it is regrettable how too many people are brainwashed by governments. They literally follow all rules and laws even when you are unrealistic and unfair. That’s the consequence of fear, fear of punishment. And to be honest, you have made the right decision OP. You wanted to help your students and show them the importance of Bitcoin and Blockchain in this era. Regarding the governments and how they imposing their power to citizens, it is literally out of your control and there is no need to over stress yourself. Fortunately, in last few years we have seen some countries who started accepting Bitcoin as a legal coin such as, El Salvador. Also, the rate of crypto users is progressing rapidly. Probably, more countries will recognize Crypto in the near future. Let’s be optimistic.

Not every lecturers are open minded regards technology and innovation. Many lecturers (although I can't assure if it's the case here) are on confortable social and financial positions on their local communities that they become blind to the issues most people are facing and struggling, because their personal lives are nearly to perfection considering their personal needs.

Therefore, any hypothesis of changes are immediately rejected by these individuals, since they could mean potential threats to their currently way of life.

Some agreement can be made with the given discussion and disagreements are always formed. In a todays era, it is not appropriate that if the government says ok, then that thing is right and if says no, then it should not be adopted. As far as old fashioned things and business methods are concerned, that time was different, but today’s requirements have brought a lot of innovations and advancements. So we have to try to leave the traditional business to internet. Expand your business to the world and create new ways to empower the younger generation.

Being a lecturer, teacher or any motivational speaker, it’s the responsibility to teach our young’s about trading techniques and also ways whom they may connect upon their choice (Especially for the BITCOIN).

Amongst the other business of trading, Bitcoin, as a decentralized digital currency, has the potential to impact political stability in various ways. However, it's important to note that the relationship between Bitcoin and political stability is complex, and the effects can be both positive and negative. Bitcoin allows individuals to have control over their funds without relying on traditional financial institutions or governments. Bitcoin has the potential to promote financial inclusion by providing access to financial services to individuals who are unbanked or under banked. Bitcoin makes it difficult for governments to control or censor transactions.
Bitcoin can provide a means for individuals to conduct transactions privately and securely, potentially challenging the government's control over financial systems. It's important to note that while Bitcoin has the potential to influence political stability, it is just one factor among many, because in the world we are living in, and in the future, all traders will be able to complete their planes in the digital world and in accordance with the procedures related to chain management.

You just have to understand that, once someone doesn't like something, even if it's legal, it's highly valuable, they'll still hate it and talk bad about it. And you won't be able to change their mind, simply because they don't like it, not because they lack understanding. What he told his children is not true but that is his view on bitcoin.

But honestly, I'm not worried about that boy, the kids are curious and love to explore. He'll be looking for bitcoin more when his dad says so because there's no way bad things can spread and become more common every day. The paper does not wrap fire, truth is truth, I believe that boy will soon find out the truth about bitcoin.

You don't have to blame the father for giving his son such fatherly advise. A man can only give out what he has in him. The father isn't familiar with Bitcoin and would had heard wrong stories about how bad Bitcoin is and wouldn't what his child to participate in such thing. The father is also working for the government and from what I have heard, Bitcoin isn't welcomed in that country.

You have to convince the father that Bitcoin isn't as bad as it's be viewed in the country so he won't be telling his son a different thing from what you're teaching him. Convince the father and you'll get the son. Bitcoin are use mostly for illegal things in that country as we know.

Funny thing is we the people both for that government to control our respective country. I don’t want to become biased on Bitcoin because it sounds like we our rebelling to our government. The problem on this fiat was it is inherited to our ancestors that works more than a hundred years while Bitcoin is just a fraction of that duration. I know that Bitcoin is working for us because we are the majority same with fiat when it’s newly introduced to replace precious metal. My point is we don’t know exactly what will be the future implications for this new technology which is why government is very cautious on adapting it.

Some country is already slowly regulating which is a good sign that we are moving forward. Right now Bitcoin is experiencing high fees due to ordinals so what’s gonna happened to us if all of us is using Bitcoin right now. Imagine how overload the mempool is if the majority of people sending transaction or participating on shitty ordinal.

Bitcoin still have some lapses when it will be use by the majority. I think slowly pruning all this lapses and preparing for greater purpose is still the best rather than mocking on the government while we are still encountering some serious problem until now.

The government knows exactly what they need to do in order to seize their citizens' opportunities; yet, they are afraid of facing reality; they do not want bitcoin to outperform our general fiat money; bitcoin will serve more purposes for the country. The government supervised people' affairs and estimated budgets, but it doesn't imply we should follow their regulations even when it's evident that they're completely on the wrong side of progress. Bitcoin is a good market project, and cryptocurrency is a welcome development. The world is changing, and we need everything positive we can get our hands on; there is no time for putting off efforts, channeling every ounce of energy into something useful. .

You know, even educated people often won't agree to anything when you try to explain it to them, and bitcoin was useful to those who understood what it was. Regarding the son, if he finds what you are teaching them to be interesting, he will want to learn more without being lectured. I don't believe you should feel bad about wasting your time on a student and then telling the lecturer's son that bitcoin is a bad thing thereafter.
Speaking negatively about bitcoin won't stop it from advancing because the number of people who are interested in it rises daily, and according to students, it's not everything we should tell our parents about because some of them are not cynical about some technological developments.

I would have to agree, it is a shame. At some point too it does become a burden trying to say the same thing over and over and explain why bitcoin is so important in so many ways and they still don't understand it. It makes one question their IQ and capacity to understand complex issues and systems lmao but hey what I always say is the old horse and water phrase, you know the one. Can't force a horse to drink the water when they don't even really know what the water is / don't understand that water is good for them!

Wouldnt really be that shocking but if i were you then it would be better that you should really ignore those people who do have this kind of close mindset because they do get been used too specially with those oldies.
So expect that it would really be passed up into their sons and grandchildren on which its never been that shocking if ever there would be criticisms specially on Bitcoin or something that they havent been able to encounter or simply the dont have the idea on what it is. You would really be able to see that they would be sticking out into their principles and wont really be tending to hear out those new ideas
or things that do currently existing.

When someone do approach then its not bad to tell out and lead them to those basic url or sites which do shows basic information on what Bitcoin is. You would really be having no obligation
as long you wouldnt really be giving out some guarantees or assurance that they would make money. Speak up about the utility and then move to the next one.
If ever they do show up some interest and stick with you then its up to you whether you would continue to teach them about it.

You are kind of getting me confuse right now @ O.P, because that the boy's father doesn't believe in Bitcoin is a clear sign he must have had a series of online scams and as such trying to prevent his son from facing any of such, of which you don't need to blame him. Secondly, that a person is a professor in education doesn't mean such an individual is entitled to know everything in this world, and lastly, please when it comes to learning about Bitcoin, try not to force anyone so that if the price happens to fall, or go the opposite, no one put the blame on you.

Been a  citizen or anyone who has visited a state or a country must be familiar with the laws and regulations that apply there, and it is necessary that they must follow the laws and regulations that have been approved by the government of that location in order to avoid any repercussions. I do not believe it is wrong for parents to teach their kids to obey government laws especially been a citizen.Every government has a duty to defend its inhabitants from any dangers, and some governments may choose to outlaw Bitcoin for a specific period of time for a variety of reasons.so if Bitcoin is not legalize in someone country, I don't think it is good idea to be encouraging people publicly.

If the lecturer  have sufficient knowledge about Bitcoin, the lecturer might not have called it a scam. I think that a lot of people who are now successful Bitcoin investors may have initially written it off as a fraud because they didn't know much about Bitcoin and its blockchain technology at that period of time, but once they did, the information helped them come to believe Bitcoin was real.

Can’t blame the father also, as for him these online investments cryptos might be still new or foreign. So yes when you don’t have experience on a particular matter and someone says , it is bad, then you automatically creates similar impression on that. The father surely must be in the 50s, for which he claimed such a statement regarding the government. I am pretty sure that if the lecturer, tries Bitcoins himself and enjoys the real features of it, then he will question on government’s claim towards Bitcoins.

I don't want to be right and that's not what I am replying to your point, you did have one here, the lecturer is right but Bitcoin is not under any restriction in my country, it was banned years ago but not anymore.

I am surprised that this lecturer is now telling his son not to get involved with Bitcoin that's it's not money and it's illegal, as a lecturer I expected him to be open and explore more, there is no end to knowledge.

If my own father was against Bitcoin years ago and he somehow forbids me not to trade or hold Bitcoin my Life would have been way worse than it is right now. I do not believe that this man is saying this because he lacks the knowledge, I believe he is saying this because he doesn't want to believe that something could work without government intervention.

It's okay if his dad says that and isn't interested in your bitcoins. You have to keep teaching his son, who is interested in bitcoin and let his father still think like that. It was common in many places when his father or an elder did not want to accept new information and tended to choose what he liked.

You don't need to think too much about the father and refocus on teaching the child. Everyone will have a different fate as well as the child. So if you educate him about bitcoin, it will be a great achievement because children can use it for their life.

As long as there is a willingness from the child to learn about bitcoin, I don't think that will stop him from continuing to learn even though his father may not approve. But when his son can succeed in doing something through bitcoin, in this case making more money from bitcoin, his father will surely realize that what his son is doing is good for him. He will probably open his eyes and mind and try to accept bitcoins.

Maybe the dad doesn't know about bitcoin, but I don't see anything wrong with that answer. I have never seen a place where the rights of the citizens are higher than the government. Whether you come from a capitalist or a socialist country, the government decides everything, whether bitcoin is legal or not is up to them. We have never had the right to decide, this is a fact we should accept. The government will not be able to ban bitcoin completely, but for bitcoin to become legal or not, legal tender or not, the government's decision is indispensable.

Money used to be valuable and has to be rare so the reason gold was the choice since time. When Roman empire gradually collapse their currency was devalued and over time less and less silver and gold was present in their coins as inflation takes over.

But in the case of US government, they just declare the worthless paper by telling the people they are protecting the value of gold from speculators. So yeah government ps are powerful enough and imposed this law saying its temporary. Its not temporary. BTC is rare. I think government should just shift to BTC reserve if theyre not going back to gold.

Students believe what is taught on them. Shools and universities are under the governments.

Governments really decide what is to be used as currency, and we ourselves don't have any controls on it. No matter how hard we push it, if the government doesn't want it, then it is still useless. Governments are powerful, which is why we can't do anything about it. That is the reason why other people are still buying bitcoin even though it is illegal in their country. They see potential in it, but they are quiet about it as they might get into trouble. What's my point? The government will be implementing those established ones like fiat, and if they see that there is something wrong with something like bitcoin, they will ban it, and you can't stop it.

Everything you say about the government is not wrong, they are assholes. But the question arises, what can we do but obey their orders? There is almost nothing we can do to expose them, fighting them is never a happy ending. Believe it or not, as long as they make a policy, we have to follow it and follow it.

We can't force the father here, for me that is his own opinion, and what can see, what if this father still doesn't know what is Bitcoin or still doesn't know how Bitcoin works?
These kinds of people sure are still living in the old times, and most of these are still practicing the old ways.
We should also consider what kind of government they have or which country they are living.

This is actually the influence of social media and on how it impacts the perspective of all people. Unfortunately, majority are lazy to check their respective resources when it comes to verifying facts and checking the truth. They blindly follow leaders as they have no will of their own. Regardless whether a certain leader speaks the truth or not, the followers commend and follow their actions without determining the veracity of such actions.


I do think that it is the role of students to understand and make a determination whether they should follow or not. Students are already at age where they now what is good and bad. They can decide for themselves and they can also follow others without giving much thought.

Sad story but this is not surprising, school these days do not really teach you anything, you are expected to sit down, remain quiet and then at some intervals demonstrate that you can regurgitate some of the stuff the teacher has been mentioning, do so at a satisfactory level, then forget everything that you supposedly learned and do this for decades, so it is not surprising that such system is producing people which are supposedly educated but that are that dense, a form of money becomes popular and used by most people because they find it useful, this was the case with gold and silver, this was the case for the US dollar too, as no one can force other governments to use it for their international trades, and the same is true for bitcoin.

In this regard, literacy may have multiple faces. That teacher is paid by his turstworthy government so I guess he's already biased. No wonders. His literacy is in another field not in economy or finance! And another thing is that teachers of today, graduated probably before Bitcoin existed, so the awarness for fiat money was not as big as it is now and keynsian ideas were the only one known to people (and still are but slowly enlarging horizons, so I hope).

The generation of people that got to 8th grade or so by 2009 will be the first ones to embrace Bitcoin culture by nature, eventually! People before that must be self-taught or taught by hard ways such as losing all savings and/or losing all goods to governments or so!

There's one thing I've learned over the years when it comes to the government and that's to never trust what they're saying. The chairman of the equivalent of the FED in my country said in 2021 that currency is doing fine and they aren't expecting any significant increase of inflation. A year later inflation was 2 times higher.
When the war in Ukraine broke out they said the fuel prices have gone up and they have to adjust, but a year later when oil prices went down, they kept gasoline high for months in government-owned gas stations to make money and steal from people.
We have VAT tax and the government said many years ago that it would increase VAT for a year or two to fix the budget, but then it would decrease it again - it never did. It's been at least 5 years since they said that and VAT was never decreased.

All they do is lie, all they want you is to be like a puppet on a string. If they tell you to jump, you should do anything but.

Well, the government governs so many people believe that government is here for the people's benefits and good so we cannot blame others to think that way.  Besides, only rebellious people will think otherwise.


Bitcoin is illegal in some country,and others haven't put any stand and put Bitcoin in a gray area.   I think it is not ignorance on the part of the lecturer but rather basing his belief on the standpoint of the governmnet about Bitcoin.  Not because we believe in BTC we are more knowledgeable than them... that is a huge fallacy IMO.

Well, what do you expect? People choose what they believe and whom they believe. to some people, it's just what the government says that is so valid to them, but when a common man speaks to them about something, they take it so unserious, not to mention that Bitcoin is not a force; it's left for any individual to decide what they want and go for it. It's just like when a baby is born, their parents can make decisions for them, but it will get to a stage in their life when they have to choose their part and make decisions for themselves. At a very mature age, parents are not even the ones who asked their children to go and marry; they make those choices themselves, so allow it to pass. It's not a shame to me; it's just what humans choose to believe they will believe. I have seen a situation where someone has all the evidence to believe that something is true, but they don't just want to agree to it, probably because it's not coming from whom they expect to hear it from.

Am not surprised about the ignorance of the lecturer and his son. It has been the father who always shows the son the right way, hence I see no wrong in the son believing what his father said.
Where he would have to appreciate the free Bitcoin lecture you gave, is if in the future he needs to complete a transaction or trade across border and he is faced with huge tax charges from fiat banks. He would also understand your bid when he doesn't get a job after graduation and is forced to fend for himself.
He would also understand what you are trying to do now, if a younger one of his earns majorly from it and is doing fine.
Leave people be with their understanding, when the time comes for them to learn about same Bitcoin, I hope they would be able to afford it or grasp the concept or find someone who wouldn't charge them for the knowledge.

They are students, somehow they are limited to what was being told to them. We are being told to obey all the time from parents, school teachers down to the churches. It must takes more than just a discussion of what government approved and what they don't before students understand their freedom to chose.

I think the discussion should start from the kinds of money that tribes have in different part of the world. The communities just agree which is money like seashells or the  Pacific island people who agreed stone money known as “Rai” as their currency.

With this in mind, I think they will also see that anything can be a money as long as people agrees its valuable.

OP you didn't state the position of the government of your nation concerning bitcoin. If Bitcoin is restricted or banned in your country, then the lecturer is correct. You are to respect the law of your country be it favorable or unfavorable. If the government of your country bans bitcoin you have no other option than to obey the law or leave to another country. Disobeying the law of the land can attract severe sanctions which could include jail term. I don't think it is a shame to obey the government.

But we should also understand that when we have the freedom to choose between economic choices, then we should make our own decisions based on our research or experience. In my country, the government encourages its citizen not to engage in any cryptocurrency transaction, but Bitcoin and other coins are not banned. It is now up to the citizens to decide if they will take the government's advice or not. For me, I chose to neglect their advice because I believe in Bitcoin.

I'm getting where you're coming from. After a hearty lecture like that you'd hope that every student that listened to you as well as their parents that listened to them talk about your lecture would be as accepting and receptive of what you're trying to sell. Sadly that doesn't work. You can't convince people by calling them a dick (or being angry at them because they don't wanna listen to you). In my honest opinion, the dad's correct. In legal manners only the central government could really decide whether a currency is legal and allowed to operate within their territories or not. Granted there will always be lengthy discussion about this but that's besides the point, the government has all the legal powers to tell the people which is right and which is wrong. Ever wondered why the US government was so confident about cracking down on bitcoin in the first place?

This is what's known as a doctrine. And if you're aware, the most adept purveyors of fake news are actually the government themselves. They have the advantage of access to the national media that they control, which easily allows them to steer the public towards statements that may still be in doubt of their truthfulness by the government. Major news portals that are part of the government ecosystem, and thus beneficial to the government, will receive permission and funding. Meanwhile, news portals that oppose the government will be silenced.

The issue with Bitcoin will only be met with resistance from fiat and banking industries. Established centralized companies that have been around for some time and mutually beneficial for the government will quell the threat of Bitcoin from the very beginning. This is what makes Bitcoin have enemies in its quest to become a mainstream digital currency among the wider public.

I am surprised why you are seeing it as a shame. There is nothing shameful here and the lecturer is 100% correct based on the context and information given him.

You cannot go print paper in your country and begin ask people to use it as a currency, will it be possible? No!
That is exactly what the lecturer meant. The currency is a legal tender and it is only the government who determines what is a legal tender or not.
So, for someone who doesn't have rooted information about bitcoin to make such a statement, he should be applauded as a learned man instead of criticising him and seeing him as being naive.

I wonder why some people are still relying on government to do some settings things as for for me I will never rely on the government, I will be be self employed, I don't want government to buy my time, the time when I suppose to use for other things like investments, Bitcoin other cryptocurrencies to make life easier for me, I will use it in government work to suffer, what if the government is paying you forty thousand a month calculate how much is your daily salary. Bitcoin will be come legal tender in the future.

We will be surprised by the level of how some people rely on the government's negative statements about something that's good and the sad thing about it is that the people are not the only ones guilty of this because some cryptocurrency exchanges are somehow the slave of government which Coinbase was one until now that they are going against the same SEC after Kraken made a solid decision.

I think what your student's father said is true that the government has the right and authority to determine their own currency, and indeed the only one who has that rights, regardless of freedom, as the people has its own limits as the beneficiaries of autonomy in the state.
I didn't mean to speak ugly about Bitcoin, but I need to affirm that what the student's father said was true as the procedural agreed upon.
Unless there are no laws that legally determine the currency, it will be mentioned that the community is free to determine its currency.
I don't think you need to complain about what you have done, that's the choice you have made and maybe this is one of the obstacles that you need to face in introducing bitcoin as a currency in your country, if it seems that people are affected then the possibility is you Bending from currency to alternative investments and you can continue.

What is shame here? There is nothing wrong with saying that the government decides everything. Can you fight them? If your country banned bitcoin, would you dare to tell people that you are using bitcoin? Like it or not, government is the most powerful agency and they decide everything in this world, against them is not a good idea.

I guess it's not always bad when people are told what to do. But you always can decide what is best for you

Actually what the man (the guy’s father) said is true, the federal government hold the exclusive right to decide which currency its nation should use or trade

Currently, the use of cryptos was banned since 2021 and no one can do anything about it

As a matter of fact, if you receive any alert with a crypto related word as description, your account will be blocked, if you go to the bank to complain, you’ll be arrested

However, most people still try to learn and use cryptos but it must be without the knowledge of any government entity.

You shouldn't also feel like you wasted your time because, not everyone is permitted to benefit from your wealth of knowledge, does that can will.

I am of the opinion that the lecturer who gave this opinion was not entirely wrong, because indeed the government has the authority to determine the legal currency for transactions in that country. The authority of the government in each of these countries absolutely must be carried out by every community, but even though these rules are absolute, it does not mean that people cannot invest in Bitcoin. If you only invest in bitcoin, that's fine, as long as there are no rules that absolutely prohibit bitcoin. I think most governments have made currency from scratch and made the currency legal to be used as a transaction tool. So the conclusion is clear, that indeed the government has the authority for this matter, and this authority is absolute. And don't let it become an obstacle for your students to start investing in bitcoin, because these rules have no effect on bitcoin, because bitcoin is universal and is a very valuable asset.

How would you like it to be? In my opinion, it can't be otherwise.

Any system is trying to control its population and for this brainwashing through the institution of education. Lecturers, for the most part, like parrots, repeat the same material learned many years ago and often reject everything new. Therefore, it is not surprising that the lecturer believes that only the government knows what is good and what is bad for him. With age, people have less and less desire to change anything, and only young people (students) are ready to learn something new.

This is why I believe that it is necessary to tell the younger generation (students) about bitcoin and not the old one (lecturer), who are so ossified in their beliefs that they are not ready to consider alternative versions.

Maybe that kid’s father is working for the government and that’s the reason he is a fan of the government… We can’t exactly know his reasoning. In the end there are people that like the governments as well. Not everyone is as rebellious as the bitcoiners. Some people just want to be sheep. Baaa baa. And you know what? They are actually more than you think. They are the reason why governments and banks are still around. These people need them.

The government has that power to decide what currency they would let the people in their nation to use. That's why not everyone can make their own currency (paper money) for others to be used as legal. Bitcoin on the other hand is different. Since you've only mentioned about the lecturer saying that the government is the only one who can decide if the currency is fit to people. I'm not sure if the lecturer is against Bitcoin or not. Cause saying that doesn't mean he's against Bitcoin, I feel like he's just telling what he know about the government and the currency. And maybe the father isn't just that knowledgeable about Bitcoin but if the father isn't against it, then I don't think it'll affect his son's interest on Bitcoin. The son can still continue learning more about Bitcoin and it's up to him to decide if he wants to enter this space or not.

You are wrong in this concept of yours, and the boy's father (lecturer) was correct because only the government of a nation has the right to decide what can be accepted as a general currency, of which though Bitcoin is a digital currency it's not of any nation. However, Bitcoin came as an independent global currency that could be used as a store of value and transaction, of which Although lecturers or professors still don't believe in it doesn't mean it's not legit, and used as a store and transactions from people all around the world.

So what we are to note is that;

1. Only the government of a nation has the right to decide what can be accepted as a general currency.
2. That people don't believe in Bitcoin doesn't mean it's not legit and been used as a digital asset for future store of value.

I agree. There is nothing wrong with what his father said, our world is still controlled and regulated by governments, and they have the sole right to decide if bitcoin is a legal currency or not. Of course, we can use bitcoin without government permission, just like investors living in some countries, bitcoin is banned, but they can still invest. Such activities are considered stealthy, illegal, and potentially punishable if detected by the authorities. As long as the world has governments, we can't think we'll be free to do whatever we want without their permission, including bitcoin.

In my opinion, mere education is not enough. There must be love or belief in the information you learn. If you only perform it as a job, then surely you will not be able to convince or influence your students.

Some people are convinced of Bitcoin, but they are afraid of violating the government, so they prefer to stay away in order to avoid problems with the government. Others, on the contrary, are not convinced of Bitcoin as an alternative and better monetary system than the current monetary system, but they only acquire Bitcoin to obtain profits.

This is a culture that differs according to the nature of each person. So you don't have to be frustrated.

OP do not get discouraged for the existence of people who think that way or have different opinions from yours, regardless whether they are a lecturer or not. That is part of life, we are supposed to stand for what we believe and have healthy debates in many topics that affect our life.

Here in Venezuela some years ago, most of people were also very skeptical of Bitcoin and some even said it was a bad idea to use it, that the best thing to do was to smuggle dollars under one's mattress.

Guess what happened, the crisis came and it became increasingly difficult to access to USD and other centralized assets, people turn to exchanges and Bitcoin and now it is embraced as part of the economy, in an informal way.

In the end, people that talk like that other lecturer do not know the merits of Bitcoin because he never gave it a try or because in his eyes he does not need to. Life is strange, and there is a small chance he or his family will have to buy Satoshis to overcome economical repression as we did here. Let us see what he thinks after it.

Cheers and Take care.

It’s not everyone that’s leaving in a word that government decides what’s good from what’s bad, we all know that bitcoin have been illegal in different countries, but citizens of those countries are still looking for ways to make use of bitcoin, but it can’t be done publicly because they are going to be punished by the government. Their was a certain time which the central bank of my country gave directives to all banks to ban accounts that have been linked to cryptocurrency, everyone was scared so that their account won’t be affected, but people were still making use of bitcoin then, i was even surprised because bitcoin got more popular in my country then.

Most of those lectures know the fact but they are just trying to hide it, they are supporting the government, or should I say the lecture is old so he those not have much knowledge about digital currency, but I think he should have gone on a research first before just making conclusion.

You have tried your best to enlighten people about bitcoin, you have to leave your own personal business just to each people about bitcoin, you have don’t your part so it’s left for the lecturers son to make decision, if he will be investing in bitcoin or he will choose to follow what his father said. You can’t force anyone to invest in bitcoin and am sure he is no longer a kid, he is mature enough to make decisions on his own. You have tried your best by teaching them, then you should just leave everyone to make decision.

As we all know, all individuals have different views and perspectives about Bitcoin, some say it's good some say it's a high risk of investment. Not minding what everyone says, your choice will determines what and how you want to see Bitcoin

And yes, it is true that only the government can tell which and which currency should be used in the country. You won't blame the lecturer. his own belief and  idea about Bitcoin before now is definitely something that is used to scam others so hearing it from his child as a father, he would preach against it.

Don't stop the good work, spread the word.

OP, you shouldn't be discouraged or allow this to way you down to assist those students to know about bitcoin. The lecturer is an aged man who don't have the understanding of bitcoin and its blockchain technology that it is a decentralized system and even the government can't have access to identity of bitcoin users. You should also remember that as a lecturer, he is used to the old fashion fiat lifestyle and he is use to government financial bondage. A lecturer is a government employee and would feel he knows all because of his high level of education. Bitcoin is a new technology for the youths and the aged ones will not accept the adoption because they are adamant to changes. Go on with teaching the students because I believe one or two of them will come back to you for this.

You can not change everyone. You can try but you can only change a few people and there are some people you will never be able to change them despite of how many hours and efforts you try to do it.

Although 2 hours is not too much to change one persons' mind about something he is not favorite or worse against it, I recognize your efforts which can change live of some people. They were already exposed to something new and they have to make their decision, do more research about it and kick off their adventure or forget about what you said.

Actually, I don't think everything the government does is wrong, and not everything they do is right. The government must have a reason why they ban something because it is their function as a government, to manage and ban things in their territory. However, if you live in a country based on democracy, you can determine what is best for you. Even when the government says they are banning Bitcoin, you can still choose to use it and there is nothing wrong with that. But of course there are consequences for this and you have to be prepared for that. But as far as I know people who use Bitcoin in countries where Bitcoin is banned have not been arrested, only those who use Bitcoin for criminal acts have been arrested.




If we talk about the conditions in today's society, it is true that it is the government that regulates what currency is best for their citizens and maybe this teacher is referring to this. But like I said, you can still use Bitcoin even when the government says it's not good. It all comes back to each of us, whether we agree or not with the government. You can give a deeper explanation in this matter to your students.



This child is not always small, one day he will grow up and be able to determine for himself what is best for him without being influenced by other people's words. Maybe in the future he will become a Bitcoin enthusiast like us, who knows. But for now maybe he will still listen to what his father said. And you should stick with your stance on teaching about Bitcoin and Blockchain and how these benefit in everyday life. I'm sure that someday out of all the students you teach, some will jump into the world of cryptocurrencies and become one like us who believe in Bitcoin and Altcoins.

Honestly, it's hard to argue with that because we live in a world with governments. If we want to enjoy using bitcoin based on its main purpose, which is decentralization, we can't expect it to happen because government intervention would make that decentralization centralized.

The government will decide whether to regulate bitcoin or not, and if they choose not to regulate it, that means it's banned or illegal.

If you want bitcoin to exist without government interference, it won't prosper, and mass adoption won't happen, which will likely lead to its collapse. Currently, major exchanges are regulated, if not all, so it's safe to say that bitcoin is also regulated.

Perhaps when it comes to other things that can help the government's jurisdiction, it can be said that the government can order its citizens to follow this or that.

But when it comes to the personal life of each person, I don't think the government covers it because our life and survival do not depend on the government, so if we want to know what Bitcoin is, it is no longer covered by the government. that we live in, even if the government doesn't want it or wants Bitcoin.

That's indeed a reality and will remain in that state no matter whoever does anything that won't change anything in the current system. It's government that decides that who will get good thing and who won't. And, people who oppose the decisions of the government will either be jailed or defamed badly. That's a bitter realty of the system and we must have to swallow it either willingly or unwillingly.


You did very well in educating them about Bitcoin and crypto-currencies as all the students have the right to learn about Bitcoin and its potential in this busy world. However, I must say that the lecturer is also right in his place because it's government that decides to make a currency legal or illegal tender. It a government puts strong regulations on a crypto-currency then it would be impossible to trade that crypto in their jurisdiction.


If his son has interest in Bitcoin then he will find a way to learn about it no matter what his father or someone else told him about it. The discouragement can't stop someone from learning about a new thing but in most cases it works in the opposite direction.

You haven't wasted your energy because those 2 hours of yours will change the life of many of those students. The eager ones will surely come to you to learn more about the currency and the technology behind it. You should also guide those students about this forum if you found them interested in Bitcoin.

You know right if lecturer or teacher mostly teach you about an old knowledge or subject that's already outdated with the present situation? not to mention most of governments aren't supporting Bitcoin as a currency, they only let their citizens to use it as a commodity and call it a high risk investment.

You can't change the lecturer, teacher or old people's mind, they will underestimate and not hear you since they think they're older than you and must be experienced than you.

The father is so correct, only the government can decide which currency becomes a legal tender, the government can ban any currency that they do not want, but BTC is a permissionless currency, so people can still use it without their governments permission, even if the government never makes it a legal tender it does not stop people from sending BTC's to one another or from accepting it. If BTC is banned in a country, it is very difficult to use it and you may get yourself arrested if you do so, but i don't think there is ever going to be a massive ban of BTC around the world. BTC is a censorship resistant and permissionless currency, but you would not want your government to turn against it completely, it would be a problem for people that use BTC in your country.

You were never expecting such hatchet words and discouragement from a lecturer, right?
the same way people want to see every man of God be righteous in all his doings.

Professions don't define someone. As you know, in my field of study (Social Science), you are always entitled to your own decision and have the right to quote and prove whatever someone says wrong, provided that you have enough claims to prove your own point.

This lecturer who says Bitcoin is wrong is viewing it in a very employment-friendly direction. He is a government worker who thinks everything that his employer says stands and remains the best because the employer puts food on their table. Those kinds of people are not people you go into an argument with.

You don't have to feel discouraged or disappointed; you have done your part; you have passed out knowledge regarding Bitcoin; few will learn; few will agree with you; some will also disagree; it is what it is; the son to be in the university is old enough to take his own decisions; if he wants to invest in Bitcoin today, he will; unless all his money is coming from his dad's pocket, he has to obey the instructions coming from the hands that feed him in order not to start answering the name of a disobedient child.

We Bitcoiners know what's best for us; we don't need the government to decide for us. They always think staying at the top means they know everything and that all their decisions are best for the people.
 
I don't actually believe in the word "illiterate." Saying someone is illiterate sounds mean to me. People are all educated in different aspects of life, and there are those who are enlightened based on their findings within their surroundings and locality. But their only lack is exposure to western education; I don't regard them as illiterates.

It's a shame that people are still living their lives, saying, if the government says that something is bad then it is bad, government decides what's good and what's bad for it's people.

This is what I get from a lecturer of a university in my country, I was trying to teach some students about Bitcoin and crypto, I was forced to even do it because I have been busy with my business for the past one month now, a good year this 2023 has been for my business, but these students have been calling me to come and give them some lectures about Bitcoin so I did this yesterday.

One of the students have a father that's a lecturer and after I got home this student told me that his father said that the government is the only thing that can decide if a currency is fit to be people's currency or not, if the government says no then it's a no, coming from a lecturer this is so sad.

His son have an interest in Bitcoin and now it's left for him to make a choice, I am only surprised how a lecturer can be this dense, something that should be coming from an illiterate.

I don't know if this will impact the other students too because they are all from the same school but I do hope I've not wasted my energy, I spent 2 hours talking about Bitcoin and the Blockchain.

If something is not clear or doesn't make sense, we should look for answers and not make a blind determination on it, your action can have an impact on someone's else.
The lecturer have called Bitcoin a scam and his son is lost, I still told him to do research on his own but I myself have lose interest trying to explain anything to him anymore.

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I've read some comments and people don't get why I believe it's a shame that this is coming from a lecturer. My father was old skool too, yet he never think that paper money is not replaceable, he was so opened to new ideas and he believe that anything is possible.

As a lecturer he should believe in whatever he believes in, but stopping his son from learning about Bitcoin is wrong, as a lecturer what makes him believe that he will always be right? We were taught in school that knowledge is power and this one is stopping people from achieving knowledge.

People believe so much in their government that's why many poor people are so powerless, some countries are in a mess today because all the people believe in are those corrupt politicians leading their countries.

I read some comments and I am disappointed, many people are just buying Bitcoin but they don't understand that Bitcoin gives power to the people through decentralization, for the first time in history the government is unable to be in total control of something, that's Bitcoin.