Topic: What can be done to enforce the discipline of sticking to a running campaign? (Read 244 times)

Signature campaign is not a prison system to have discipline or to enforce anything, and you should not be asking questions like this in the first place.
Nobody is forcing anyone to stick until the end of any campaign, there is no written contract, campaigns can end at any time, and members can always change for something better.

The real question is: why would you want to lock-in employees? It's a free market.

It would be easy to enforce though: ask to pay a $1000 deposit before you can join, and if you leave the campaign, you lose your deposit. I'd stay far away from any company that does such tricks.

One subtle way to "enforce" this is to not hire "job hoppers".

Signature campaigns have become quite scarce this year, so competition has become increasingly fierce for signature applicants. I think OP is talking about high rank accounts applying for open positions meant for lower ranks even though the pay is lower than what they would normally receive for their forum rank. It makes sense because most managers wouldn’t mind accepting a senior member who has a good post history for a full member position. It would certainly help if OP improved his post quality, campaign managers wouldn’t skip the account if your post/merit ratio is not so far off.

Almost everything can be discussed here, but there are some restrictions for those who join the campaign because the campaign manager gives them specific rules and they have to post according to the rules. In fact, if you join a signature campaign here, you have to follow many things. You cannot move in any direction you want. Managers do not have to do anything while in the campaign because they have to give their rules according to the direction given by the project manager.

While in the campaign, you have to stay within a boundary because if you do not follow the direction of the boundary, you will not be paid, that's why those who are associated with the campaign always pay attention to the rules and discuss them and do not discuss the ones that they register. It seems to me that those who are in the campaign cannot move freely.

Everyone has their own way of approaching things in life, including sig campaigns. The fact is that no one signs any contract and is not obliged to spend a certain amount of time or write a certain number of posts - but if they don't do that, of course they won't be paid.

This is first and foremost a forum for discussions, and sig campaigns should be a secondary issue - there are guidelines for those who run campaigns and for those who participate in them, but it would be crazy to expect that all participants are disciplined to the extent that they do not leave the campaign in which they participate as long as it lasts.

I just remembered that a particular manager implemented something like this with one of the best paying mixer signature campaign before the banned on mixers and there were still high profile members who participated regardless. I can't remember the manager but someone did it.


Being loyal doesn't pay bills anymore, take a look at what's happening in football market these days for example, players doesn't care about loyalty anymore and wouldn't mind joining rival team for more money.

I think you quoted the wrong user in your second reply, that was Satoprincess reply..

As long as there is no rule to stick into the campaign until it ends, don’t be surprised if you keep seeing members shifting from one campaign to another. Where there is less post requirement but higher payout, participants will chose to stick to that campaign and leave the old one. It’s like looking for a job in the real life, where you feel less stress and comfortable, and receive offers with higher compensation, expect that workers will stick to that company and won’t be tempted to try a new one, except if the environment itself is not healthy anymore.

Even though I hate such rule, but believe me, there are many users willing to work under such conditions especially they have no campaign. They will apply, no matter how bad the rules or consequence, as long as they pay, they have no problem. Just like 1xshit where users who join will receive negative feedback, but in the end there are many users join the campaign.

Exactly, this is like a senior staff who work under someone company and think he will never get fired even he have worked for 15 years, but if he made a big mistake, the boss can just fire him instantly. Even worst, they make you not comfortable to work in their company in order to make you quit your jobs voluntary, this will make them not obliged to give severance pay.

Loyalty is only one from many factors in qualities, that's what @OP should think.

Edit:
Thanks, I've change it.

Firstly, you can't know when your signature company will end.  DYING_S0UL described the most logical behavior of any participant who is not satisfied with the payment. I think that you, the OP, have not looked at the situation from your side, and I am sure that while you are not participating in any company, you can be indignant. But as soon as you decide to participate, you will also jump in search of benefits. 
I concur that you shouldn't cut corners if the pay difference isn't significant. Sometimes we feel more comfortable with a certain manager and see no reason to look for someone else.

Although I tend be strict on a personal level about being humble and loyal to a service that you are advertising, this is a open forum and a free internet for everyone.

People have their own reasons to leave and join a campaign and managers will make the thing a whole lot messier if they start putting in rules like those who leave before the campaign ends will be barred from joining any such campaign by that same manager for 6months.

It will only make that manager look bad in the eyes of the members being blocked, it affects the manager's business partners too.

It is not unjust treatment, and there is nothing anybody can do about it except the campaign manager imposed a rule requiring any participant who jumps ship before the campaign ends to pay a penalty, that's a complete jail, and no one would want to work under such conditions.

By the way, this type of behavior will not sell you to managers. Most campaigns are only open to Sr and above; there is no use in questioning management' decisions because they do not benefit you.

It's not big deal and forum does not need to engage in any signature campaign operations, except if it causes bad things on the forum community like massive spam, for example Yobit campaign in 2019, or breaks forum rules like advertising a mixer.

Is it time for OP to read?

• Signature Campaign Guidelines (read this before starting or joining a campaign)
• A lot of helpful advice in the guideline, deserves your time for reading.

Nothing.
It's not a big deal that deserves the forum to interfere. It's not as if the participants leave that campaign to another one then the campaign manager cannot replace them with someone else. Different campaign managers look for various things when accepting members to their campaigns. it could be their merit and posting quality and quantity, it could also be the boards they post on, so is totally up to the campaign manager.
If you see a campaign that has fewer restrictions or pays more or it can simply because you like working with the campaign manager or you just like the project, you're free to join, no big deal there. The campaign manager can easily fill up your space before the day ends.

We are all freelancer here which means we can change company we are working that gives much better pay rate on our post. Also all campaigns here is not permanent which means parting ways to campaign is inevitable that’s why participants keep jumping on every opportunity that gives best benefits for them.

I’m not jumping campaign frequently because this is just my side hustle so I don’t care much about slight difference on pay rate but I do understand other users that keeps jumping since they are confident with their post quality that can be accepted easily.

there are no rules on this forum(at least as far as I know) that dictate what campaign managers can accept on their signature campaigns. campaign managers look for members who they think will be good for the signature they are managing. also, as far as I know, signature campaign managers are the ones that can put a rule on their campaign as to whether they'll accept signature campaign jumpers or not.

Every campaign manager wants to have the best hands in his signature campaign, to this end they wouldn't bother about these sets of people leaving a newly entered signature campaign  where they've just being accepted to apply for an opening of theirs. 

Vis-a-viz members want higher pay signature campaigns against less paid ones just as campaign managers wants good quality posters to participate in their campaigns. So it's really a thing of mutual interest on both sides which I believe no one of the two sides will want to tamper with.

I’d say mind your business and not bring unnecessary attention to yourself. If other members switching signature campaigns for higher pay or less post requirements, that shouldn’t concern you. You’re not a campaign manager neither do you have a campaign running on the forum.

I believe this is the main reason for creating this thread. I guess you’re offended that you (by your standards, a loyal campaign participant) do not get special consideration when applying for sig campaigns.

It's not a lifespan contract between a company, campaign manager and participant, so all of them can terminate the contract anytime. It can be terminated by the company that no longer want to spend money for marketing through a signature campaign. It can be a campaign manager who wants to rotate participants and replace current ones by new ones that can be better participants. It can be a campaign participant want to jump around different campaigns.

It's freedom.

First of all remember that wearing a signature on this forum is a privilege and not a right.

Secondly, most campaign participants wants a better pay grade and a better position. If another campaign is willing to offer you a better position, will you still stay with your current one? Tbh, many wouldn't. For example, campaign A pays $50 p/w, whereas campaign B pays $100 p/w. What will you do? It is up to the user whether they wanna stay or join another campaign.

Getting accepted is a different topic. If you are worthy of getting accepted, you will be. Every campaign manager has different criteria when accepting a user.

Do you know I was the only Sr Member who was accepted in my current signature campaign? The rest of them are either Legendary or Hero members! The campaign specifically stated that posting in the gambling board or anything related to gambling isn't allowed. Not only do I not post in the gambling section, but I also don't do gambling signatures. I have never even once applied to one. In short, I was the perfect fit. The campaign manager knew that I was a non gambling user and accepted me right away.

You are only a Full Member right now. First try to rank up and make positive contributions to the forum. You'll get your chances. There are lots of signatures you can apply for. Every day, new positions are becoming vacant. Lastly remember again,  signature is a privilege not a right.


Here I am!  

It's all fair in capitalism, actually when the campaign manager select the participants who applied in campaign thread, it's more transparent than people who're in a campaign by invitation (not saying invitation is illegal or unfair though).

Encourage more newbies to join in what? isn't people always said they're not joining the forum for money?

For the campaign manager, pay as high as the other campaign that the users applied.

But, there's a case that money isn't the problem, it's the project. Some users who're not in a campaign choose to join gambling campaign, if there's a non gambling campaign open, they will join the non gambling campaign.

This is not the concern of the forum itself; the forum is not the one hiring members in signature campaigns. As a manager, what they want best is who will promote the project very well, so if they can attract the attention of good posters from an existing campaign and those people are willing to join, I don't see any problem with that. 
 
The problem of jumping from one campaign to the other should be the members concern, not the community. If the user is always doing that and it favours him or her, just know that the person has what managers are looking for (bringing visibility to the campaign or project).

Usually it's due to one of these reasons.
1. Higher payment rate.
2. Less strict requirement.


Probably no, i doubt campaign manager cares whether you're currently join different signature campaign or not.

Why do some members of this forum on different campaigns not stick with the campaign until it closes/ ends instead of jumping ship to another campaign that is supposed to accommodate newer members with different experiences?

 I noticed how some members apply for open slots in another campaign while the one they currently participate in is very much active. The funny thing is that they get accepted by the managers and they then have to abandon the current one they campaign for unto a new one.
Members like myself do stick to one signature campaign until it ends, that's if it is paid and if unpaid, i hustle to get accepted into a paid one, but often times I get dropped as has always been the case after joining a paid signature campaign, without any prior or proper reasons and when I do try to join a new one, it becomes difficult and preference is mostly given to others who are already above the rank or in another campaign and want to join the same campaign that fits my profile and rank at the moment.

* Isn't this a partial or unfair treatment/practice, mostly in this community that is supposed to encourage and uplift each other so as to encourage more newbies to join?

* What can be done to enforce the discipline of sticking to a running signature campaign until it ends?