Topic: What Can Be Done To Reduce Gambling Related Issues Like Suicide etc? (Read 651 times)

Then people personally has some work to do for themselves if those gambling ads and site's can't be banned then people should focus on something serious especially with their life's. Some quick advocating about the disadvantage and how it drains the soul also especially to the much younger ones and generation so they be guided as they go, although it's more better if they btry and fail then change for better

Professional help can cure those who are addicted to gambling. I know it would be expensive, but I think it is difficult to cure your addiction with just yourself since there are times that you can't control it, and eventually, you'll be getting back to gambling. With the help of psychologists and other professionals, they can give you therapy and other things to do so that you can't think about getting back into gambling. When his parents or family notice something is wrong with him, they should be the first to bring him to a psychologist because it is difficult for him to go to the psychologist.

this is what they must be but since this is business they care nothing in reality  because the more addiction they become is the more profit  enters their pocket.

Love it all , this is something innovative to have all gambling sites specially helpdesks .
yes, but the problem is that if the said gamblers keep Hiding his behavior and activities so family can no nothing for them to help.

Professional help is the key.

The victim himself may not be the one who voluntarily seeks it that's why casinos themselves should be sensitive of the behaviors of their clients. If they could easily detect suspicious cheating behaviors, they should also invest in detecting suspicious addiction behaviors. Aside from this, they should also be installing desks, offices, booths, or hotlines that have professionals always ready to assist individuals who are facing addiction tendencies.

Of course families and friends should also be more vigilant, open, and accommodating to what everyone else is going through. They could detect if a close family member or friend is going through some serious addiction problems. They should be the one to seek help for him.

I don't think so, the most powerful advertising or marketing is word-of-mouth marketing which is why casinos are offering generous rewards for recruitment gambling ads are just one of the marketing


not it will not work people basically are a gambler and their love for gambling will not stop them even if they do not see any odds they can do research to satisfy their needs



The government should educate and make its citizen know the harms of being compulsive gamblers and warn them to gamble moderately, education and moderation is the key not stopping what's inherent in them.


 

I mean I think it's like with anything, if you allow for vices to be legal, which of course means more accessible, people who can't control their vices are always going to have a hard time doing so and when it's that much easier to get, more people are going to be effected by it, simple as that.  However with that being said I believe in freedom and even though with freedom will come great pain and suffering for many, it allows for a much better life for so many more.  Let people do what they want if it's not hurting anyone else but themselves.

first is that family/friends helping hand , this will bring big part in prevention or reducing gambling related suiciding because I believe that addicted gamblers need personal affection and trust in which Only those closest people can bring.


Second is professional help, this needs to be more precise and effective to help the people indeed.

One of the few solutions that I think could help against gambling is having a strict registration process and continuous KYC checks, it's likely not that effective but having different solutions that could slowly chip away at the entire problem if it means that it'll discourage some gamblers. Casinos having a smaller betting limit for new players would be helpful as well, most gamblers might brush the limit aside but the initiative of having a limit could help them tone down their gambling activity.

I think there's no need to be done to reduce gambling related issues. Even the government is serious about this policy, they can't control people emotions. Maybe just trust the process that those gamblers will not become addicted on the process. And as much as possible, try to build lots of gambling rehabilitation centers for others to know that there such establishment like that in order to help those people who are now under the spell of gambling addiction.

That will even make users not to signed up anymore on that site. Why should a gambling site consider doing that?

We are the ones who can control our fate in gambling. We are the only ones who can make ourselves responsible at all times.

Simply just don't do gambling if a person doesn't understand the risks they are taking into.

Filling a form just like you have mentioned does not make a gambler to ignore coming suicide which can be based on so many things. Having consecutive loses without any winnings cam make a gambler to think of coming suicide especially when they have a soft mind without no hope. Some persons that gambles do that with borrowed funds maybe from a friend or bank with with hope of paying back. Since they can not pay due to big loses, they might think of coming suicide which could be a better option for them to escape the insult they will get from the source of their fund.

Many people are suicidal these days, when new members are about to register in a gambling site and casinos, they can include a form that questions how susceptible an individual is to suicidal thoughts so they can determine the limit that they would be allowed to gamble as a way to control their loses.

Proper counselling an addicted gambler will also help in preventing their suicidal tendency, when an addicted gambler losses massively and become bankrupt thus such a person needed to be closely monitored and counselled properly mostly by a very close family member, however it's becomes difficult if such a gambler does it anonymously without revealing the huge losses to a close relative except if the relative consciously notice it else such an gambler is liable to commit suicide, above all it's advisable to gamble with the amount of money you can afford to lose to avoid touching stories.

I often see a news about suicide connected to gambling addiction although depressed or other mental health issues are the common cause of suicidal thoughts. It has a very small chance of getting a suicidal thoughts if a person control his/her self especially when losing too much. Some gamblers don't know when to stop until they ran out of money due to excessive gambling but suicide is not always the answer for that, I'm sure there are other things bothering them why people have to do it.

It's always better to find someone to talk to if you felt too much from the inside since staying alone will always bring you closer to the bad thoughts. Stay with someone you can trust that will listen and help you not just with your gambling addiction but with your mental health too.

Kids were taught about good touch and bad touch to keep themselves from harassment. This is a measure followed all around the world as a way to educate as well as a precautionary measure. Through the learning provided big change is experienced all around the world. The same could apply for gambling.

At certain age the younger generation needs to be taught about the consequences of gambling. It shouldn't be taught as like a big crime. It need to be taught in such a way to have limits and even if something have happened worse they should have the mind to share with friends and family. This could make them stay away from the thoughts of suicide and other forms of self harming.

Definitely, the only way to reduce gambling addiction and its related issues is through the gambler itself. No other people can stop him or prevent him from gambling addiction if he is also determined to continue what he’s been doing. Maybe the family members can offer some help but it’s only up to there, because at the end of the day if the gambler refuse to accept the help, then he will continue ruining his life with gambling addiction.

Banning on gambling ads will never work if the gamblers still chose to gamble because they have enough money to gamble. But if the government will be tight on gambling ads and will strictly imposed it over the gamblers, I think it will create a big effect on part of the gamblers, and even reduce the chances to become addicted in gambling. The government and the people in such community should work hand in hand about this.

In fairness, these persons that can strongly control their emotions during gambling will really have stressful moments but I'm sure they can avoid being depressed, at least in most cases. If these people lead to depression then they are not that really strong but rather they just might be claiming that they can handle the big loss. Gambling really turned people into something worst that's why anyone should really think twice before risking money here as even a small amount to consider, once lost, can give a person stress feeling.

But honestly, sometimes that stressful feeling leads other people not to try again doing gambling. I hope that will be the most case we will see.

I agree that controlling emotions is important in gambling, but you need to be clever and have strong money management skills so that you do not make such losses in gambling which may lead to suicide attempts.

No matter how strongly you can control your emotions, if you lose a big amount in gambling, you will become depressed. This depression may lead to things like suicide. If you know anyone in your nearby friends who is depressed by loss in gambling, you should talk to him and take him to a physicist before he attempts to do anything silly like hurting himself or suicide.

Gambling is like anything in life, if you do it in small and controlled amounts then you can use it like any other form of entertainment. However there is always going to be a natural trigger in anyones mind that you have lost money and it is painful to lose money, because it can extend into feelings of stupidity and wastefulness. It can also be super easy to spiral out of control when you reach that point and you end up throwing lots of good money after bad in an attempt to recoup it - when the odds against you are static. One potential way to cap runaway losses, which are some of the most extreme scenarios, is to potentially limit a player to $10 at the beginning, then only allow them to double their max deposit every day after that, but also keep a regulator connected to it which says you cannot spend more than your average spend in the last 7 days either.

This doesnt really only limit into gambling problem situations but in overall things that could really affect you hardly specially on your emotions + your mental state.If you are a type of person whose weak
and really that impulsive when it comes to these things then you might really be ending up on suicide.

There are people who arent really good on handling out their emotions specially on the time where big problems had been experiencing. If you couldnt bare up the stress or the feeling on being down
then you would really be thinking up on getting your life.

This do really involved on mental and emotional state which is something that you do need to overcome and adjust accordingly.Be adaptive and be not that too
sensitive so that you wont really be thinking up this way.

a teen gambling for just a month will already seeing himself making money out of it. it can become a complex problem when they get addicted and parents have no idea because parents thinks they are just playing online games and with the good influence crowd. teens won't tell it to their parents either that they actually gambling.

and this is why suicide help is not working for these kind of people because they are already judged when someone knows they are gambling even their parents. hard to treat the addiction when its on their system since their younger days. a constant monitor to kids will be an option assort of gambling addiction prevention.

That's right suicide cannot be linked to any particular habit or anything you do for fun, suicide is your mental state that makes you aggressive and extreme about any particular thing in life.  Gambling is something people do for fun, yes sometimes that can go over board and you loose huge amount in Gambling but that doesn't mean you should end your life, like I said before it's your mental state that makes you depressed and low and makes you feel like now its your end and there is no solution to this problem which in real life is impossible as all problems comes with a solution. 
Everyone should have balance and mental stability in their life to avoid such issues.

I’ve never thought of suicide as a gambling related issue. I think there has to be more going on in someone’s life than losing a game in order to push them over the edge. In fact, I’d have to think you’re going through some serious issues to gamble to the point it would have an effect on your life. I think if you are noticing negative repercussions from your gambling habits, you should find another source of entertainment. 

IMO I think the parents has a lot to do in the control of their children. These days every body want to make money or maximize the avenue for profit and we go all out to take out profit from the public because of the economic realities and the casino houses are part of this whole inflation and hyperinflation situation which they also have to meet up with payment of bills, salaries and other miscellaneous. So to say gambling ads should be banned so as to protect the under aged it means the casinos will have to be shooting themselves while they also have to pay bills like the parents who are doing their own business as well. Therefore, it goes down to parenting. Parents should teach their children what they want them to know and stop them from knowing what they don't want them to know.

Your idea is good mate and anyone can accept that but at what means can we engage the whole gamblers together to pass such information on them or make an awareness, consider how big the community we all lived in is, we have different people with different backgrounds and diversified opinions and professional interest, sone don't even like gambling while some do, but can the whole Casinos come together and effect this together or we should rely on the role of government in making such awareness for gambling Casinos.

In my opinion there is no effective way to reduce or eliminate gambling and foster addiction, and there is no reason because of advertising or anything because they can find it.
and what must be done is self-awareness and awareness that gambling is harmful to health and finances, and the influential role is that families must look after each other and also control each other. Choose a relationship that is not gambling and there is no curiosity when there are advertisements or anything related to gambling and gambling from yourself, therefore you must think and be aware before doing it.

It is a person's prerogative to understand the risk of gambling right from the beginning. There should be self-control and self-discipline so the gambling addiction case won't get worse. Even if there would be programs and ads that would helo and warn gamblers about the risks of gambling addiction if a person won't put limitations and will abuse gambling, it can really result in worse situations.
If a gambler is experiencing depression because of falling deeply into a gambling addiction, seeking professional help will be the first thing that he should do. Asking for their family's help and comfort will also ease his trouble.
Falling into gambling addiction is actually a personal choice so if a person has fallen into it, he should also have the determination to rise and move forward.

I think the best way to reduce gambling related health issues (also meaning mental health issues) is to understand how gambling can cause an addiction in the first place. It is possible to gamble without becoming addicted. But only if you know how to avoid the addiction traps. And once you learn how to avoid them, thats 99% of the problem solved. Because almost all of these issues arise from gambling addictions.

The act of gambling releases dopamine. Just like with drugs. In order not to become addicted to gambling your brain needs to avoid creating a connection between the dopamine release and the act of gambling as a reward for winning.

So easiest way: after you win a sum of money that makes you feel very happy and excited, you walk away from gambling and distract yourself with something else while that feeling wears off. I recommend at least a few days break.

1. Ban gambling.
2. Ask for full KYC, video verification and live video.
3. Give a free rehabilitation and consultation for the addicts.

I believe this will reduce gambling related issues, but at the same time most people will really hate this because they're want to gamble and doesn't want to submit KYC. But it's what it's, there's no other good way to reduce gambling related issues except this three suggestion.

The title of this thread reminds me about a real story that had just happened to one of my neighbors few weeks ago.
There was one someone I know who decided to do suicide because of financial problem as the effect of losing in online gambling too much.
Before the death, he lost all what he own including car and house to pay for his debt, basically he owned some money left after he sold all what he own but unfortunately he used the rest to gamble again and lost it all.
After that he took other loans and lost it all again, a week later he the scary moment happened as he was found death in his parent's house.
Based on the story, he found online gambling not because of gambling ads but he found it because of his community (not a gambling community).
This story prove that banning gambling ads wont really affect because people may find about gambling without ads.

Of course the government can contribute to this kind of problem, if in their country legalized gambling then it is very difficult to prevent it, only within the family can help it, because gambling sites around the world attract people in secret, making their families not know what they are doing , there are several characteristics of people who play gambling, some are fanatical, some are just playing for fun, this is difficult to prevent if a gambling fan is fanatical about playing gambling, it's like taking medicine three times a day while playing gambling, of course it will be risky when experiencing prolonged defeat, especially if you are already in debt it is truly fatal, in making decisions and what to do is wrong.

I'd rather look for a busy life besides gambling, at least the life that is carried out is not focused on gambling alone, at least farming or refreshing reduces fatigue at work that is done every day, maybe one of the most appropriate solutions in my opinion, it all goes back to that person, want make changes or not...

  - First, once a person is addicted to gambling, it will be really difficult for him to get rid of this habit. Because the only thought of a gambling addict is to make a lot of money and so on.

Especially in today's era where online casinos are widespread, whether it is a cryptocurrency or not, anyone can play anywhere in the world, as long as you have internet access, anyone can gamble immediately.

But, indeed, your own family will still contribute a lot to changing your addiction to gambling as long as we also help ourselves of course.

I am curious.
how big is the percentage, the death rate due to gambling in a country, especially the UK and when compared to suicide cases caused by other factors. This is quite confusing for me, is it just because of a gambling advertisement that someone can do things that are out of bounds by ending their life.
I agree that gambling advertisements should be limited especially so as not to be of concern to minors. however, I believe this is not only related to advertising, but to the human resources themselves.

This topic is good for our discussion, and at the same time can enlighten someone so they don't do silly things.
I tell you a little, before I got married. I am familiar with gambling, whether land, online or traditional. At that time I did not have a good understanding, so I unconsciously became a gambling addict. however, it never crossed my mind to end my life because I lost a bet. I've had some annoyances like you wrote in this thread, financial problems, poor performance at work. however, don't do anything stupid.

So, what I want to say here. if we think it's bad, then what will happen is bad. if we consider it fun and entertainment, then it will be fun. That is, one must have understanding and a sense of responsibility. if it is owned, especially as a self-control.
someone will avoid addiction let alone do something ridiculous.

I think that any form of gambling under the influence is a very dangerous situation and should be prevented as much as possible. It doesn't matter if it's the influence of alcohol, drugs or medication, any substance that changes our mind should not be used while gambling. When it comes to gambling we need a clear mind to properly evaluate the risk, otherwise we are in danger to lose large sums of money and even worse become addicted to gambling. This doesn't mean that clean people can't become addicted to gambling, but I think the chances are much higher. Unfortunately can a casino not find out if a gambler is intoxicated or not, this has to be our own control. Something that could help would be to have more Hotlines where people in trouble can call and get advice. It would be best to have former gambling addicts themselves to work at these Hotlines, they could give a much better advice for someone who is struggling. Also it feels much more sincere to talk with someone who has experienced what you are going through than psychologist without any experience in gambling. It's one thing to understand the academics and make a theoretical approach and something completely different for a person to have lived through it.

Proper education and training about gambling should be done to teach people about reasonable and moderate gambling like the gamblers should be taught about age limits and extent of gambling done at the time .
Proper check and balance should be done related to gambling to reduce suicide rates and issues that people are facing in gambling.

Yes, that's one solution. But I've said that if it gets too much or means that the situation has gotten worse and even if there's family support for that gambler, it doesn't help anymore.

And that situation even makes sense for them. They should seek professional help from the experts that I've mentioned. Because there are no better people that can help them mend that addiction they've got and solve their problems but only them.

Education is really the main key. When people are educated and understand well that gambling is an entertainment business then everyone can act in a mature way and bettors will be more responsible.

The real problem occurs when people without a deep understanding become addicted to gambling. Rich or poor it makes a little difference because rich people can also bet big. When gambling problems become a trend then that will be the time authorities need to act to protect its citizens. Government interventions might depend on certain levels. Of course, a total ban is not an immediate action since the gambling industry pays a lot of money to governments. Generally, developing and poor countries have a lower percentage of educated citizens and they will be the most susceptible to gambling problems.

We cannot forget that gambling is a human phenomenon: it tends to attract people with addictive personalities, especially those individuals who go for excitement and risk. Gambling addiction and gambling problems are serious issues that can have long lasting consequences on those who suffer from them. However, not everyone who gambles suffers from gambling addiction, and these issues can be prevented and treated with the right help. The key to reducing the number of people affected by gambling problems is to raise awareness about the issue and promote responsible gambling practices.

I think the first step to reducing gambling problems is to recognize the signs of gambling addiction and the best way to reduce the number of people affected by gambling problems is to make sure they are aware of the risks. This can be accomplished through public education campaigns, which can cover topics such as how to spot a gambling addiction and how to avoid becoming addicted. Although many people may see gambling as a harmless pastime, it can have devastating effects on those who suffer from addictions and compulsive behaviors. In addition, it's important for people who suffer from gambling addiction or problem gambling issues to seek help before their problem gets worse. If you think that you or someone you know may have an addiction, it's important to seek help as soon as possible. There are many treatment options available.

One, suicides aren't solely due to gambling, there are a lot of factors that can influence it. Now if we were to limit it to suicides solely due to gambling, I'd consider it wouldn't really have any effect. A ban wouldn't really stop people deep into the gambling hole. Here's an example, a crazy person wouldn't necessarily stop being delirious if you were to suddenly bound him right? A cure is needed, not a stopgap

If banning was all it needed, then countries would've done so with cigarettes, alcohol, and other vices. The government and a lot of anti-gambling orgs have probably tried spreading awareness of gambling time and time again, but since the population their trying to affect is too great, it isn't really that effective. One-on-one therapy probably exists but it costs money, and the initiative has to start with the gambler themselves, so it isn't really an option.

I'd rather help people by teaching them proper gambling habits instead. If they want to gamble then do so, but at least they'd know what the limits are.

A ban on gambling advertising can work effectively by raising awareness among people about the dangers of gambling, especially if they have a gambling addiction. But if it is not accompanied by self-awareness from people, it will be meaningless because people will easily find a place to gamble and return to gambling. This will not reduce the problem of gambling or gambling addiction problem because people are not aware of it and maybe the government can make a better approach to the people so they can be aware of it and leave gambling.

It may not entirely clean what it has to clean but at least it will lessen and might contribute to the reduction of those bad happenings like suicides and other problems addiction will do.

For specific countries that has a huge industry share of gambling through its casinos, they're not going to look at this matter. And if a country really has a huge problem dealing with its citizens gambling addiction.

It should be enforced but the government must be ready to lose a lot of money from it. Moderation is still the key.

Government programs and activities that diverts attention of those people that has serious gambling problems.

I do not support that gambling advertisements should be banned rather it should be censored and position in places where underage could not access it. Anyone that is above 18 should be able to make decisions for themselves especially if they earn money by themselves.
The best way to avoid the bad side of gambling such as suicide is to maintain moderation in gambling so that the gambler will not become addicted.

Banning the gambling Ads would definitely reduce the amount of new players, who are entering the gambling industry. Many of those new players might eventually turn into gambling addicts and fall into depression, anxiety, financial problems and suicidal thoughts.
Other measures that might work include limiting the amount of money which one gambler could spend on a casino. I don't know how such measure can be inforsed without the gamblers trying to trick the system by creating multiple accounts.
I don't think that a total gambling ban would work, because many gamblers would still gamble on shady illegal casinos. Regulating the gambling industry is way better than a total gambling ban.

We cannot deny that gambling can bring bad things if the gambler is already addicted, but all mental problems do not occur because of gambling alone, there are many other things that can make someone eventually have mental health problems and choose to end their life.

Will banning gambling reduce the problems that arise? I don't so, think gambling has existed for a long time and campaigns about gambling that have a bad impact are also always conveyed but look at gambling still exists even the times have made gambling adapt it well, so it would be better to be responsible for yourself and people around you if you start show oddities in behavior and provide assistance by taking him to a psychologist for help if it is due to gambling addiction.

Yes.
No. We are just caging them so they will try to rebel and do it illegally. The government will not make money on that.
Teach responsible gambling.
After the advertisement always tells people to gamble responsibly/moderately. That kind of warning became rare, or it just shows but was never said.
I mean, there should be a voice because other people don't really watch ads but they do listen.
Getting strict with the age restriction. Most of the gamblers who are having trouble are young ones who are thinking about doubling their money and if they lose, they are scared and the solution they can think of is suicide or other bad thoughts, unlike mature ones who will try to look for another way.
i.e. loan, pawn, etc.

but at least helping from others , I mean some close friends or family? if has a wife and children then best to seek for their help also?

those are the chances that suicide may be taken and we may help our self from falling into gambling trap.

remember that Gambling is here not to help us earn but to take our money instead,

Gambling problems really do arise from bad gambling habits.

I think one of the best ways to lessen the gambling related issues you have mentioned is to conduct a kind of seminar whether online or in actual about the pros and cons of gambling. That way, the existing gamblers and those people who are planning to gamble will have an awareness of what kind of impact gambling might do in their lives. Since most of the gamblers nowadays do not really know or do not really allot time to research about the possible bad effects of gambling, which became the reason why most gamblers are being shocked the moment they encounter a rough patch.

Letting the people know who want to engage in gambling all of the perspective there is in gambling, not just the good or the bad will help them decide if it's for them and if they can handle the risk that comes along with it.

Of course, I think that those who have serious problems with gambling, if gambling did not exist, would have them with something else, drugs, sex or whatever. After all, all activities that have a potential risk are not dangerous if they are carried out in moderation. Those who gamble more than they can afford, spending their entire paycheck on payday or getting into debt, have deeper problems than gambling, and we cannot take the exception as the rule.

The measures to solve it must be based on the will of the subject. Trying to impose measures while the subject does not have a clear will to solve the problem is useless.

Can't agree more. There is not much help we can offer, because most of these people who gets addicted and gets more emotional and ends up cutting their lives off, doesn't even know how to help himself.
Let's just accept the fact that this is part of the world being cruel and unfair. Everything in excess is not good, not only in gambling but in general.
Only those people who has strong will and self discipline will understand and adjust to the kind of world we live in, everything else will either become a slave of it or lost their lives.

for me personally , it is not professional is what we need first but the support of family . most of those addicted gamblers hides their gambling problem to their love ones , this cause them more addiction because they wanna prove them he is right in the way he put Himself.

If they are being guided by their family I am sure they will not get this far and wont act for the negative views specially suicidal .

It's possible because gambling ads can attract people to gamble by showing a decent profit that a gambler can get if they decided to play. These ads have something to do for the increasing number of gamblers who are tempted to try their luck in gambling.

That's uncertain however it will surely decrease the people who got tempted to gamble. Like other products who have an effective ads, it's their way to lure their consumers to use their product, and there's no difference when it comes to gambling. If no ads are existing then people can forget it or atleast the numbers can be lessen as I have pointed out.

I think educating the people about the pros and cons of gambling can help them to better understand the risk and the consequences if you gamble, it's important that you know what you are getting into. Plus, there should be a government facilities (intervention program) to handle such cases to help them overcome the situation and be motivated to change.

Just to add on what you have mentioned, while there may be a prohibition of ads that has been happening especially on large streaming websites such as Twitch, proactive steps must be taken in order to fully support a person who is deeply addicted to gambling. This kind of support is outside the scope of online- help should come from their family members and peers in order to prevent any suicide-related deaths due to gambling addiction.

A person who is addicted to gambling should at least be open to their family members; and the latter should be more understanding about their situation. Just like any other addiction, continuous help and support are needed in order to overcome this problem.

Its already existing

1. Gambling venues or places should accept 18+ above age
2. KYC ( is the nearest thing on my mind) specially on online )

Personal preparedness
1. Emotion handling
2. Dont expect winnings
3. Proper financial control

We know that each person is really totally different when it comes to different aspects where decisions
made will really vary on different factors. If you are really that too emotional and cant handle emotions
on extreme manner then you should had made yourself to avoid gambling as much as possible.

Gambling-related problems really depend on how the person will handle it.

No matter what the government does to work on reducing gambling-related issues, it can't control the inner self of every gambler.

The best solution is to consider the whole gambling illegal in that region and any form are gambling is subject to heavy penalties. Of course, for a gambling-friendly country, that is not really possible.

Some people due to excessive gambling, have a rehabilitation those let them in a room with proper guidance and seek from the expert related into health conditions such as the mental to make sure they might forgot or lessen to make gambling activity it is same with the let them playing and little by little it is shifting their activities until they forget too much playing in gambling.

In some point they don't want to do it instead just they have their own home therapy with their family.

I do not think it will reduce the number of suicides.  The one that will affect suicide cases is counseling.  UK should focus on reaching out to gambling addicts and have them counseled.  Banning Ads will only make  gambling ads at least away from the eyes of gambling addicts but it does not solve the emotional stress and trauma of a gambling addict.


No, people will gamble even without gambling ads.


Counselling, treatment and medication is the appropriate measure to help gambling addicts and reduce cases of suicides.

It is very simple and very understandable that gambling he is a very lucrative business many people are into, so if peoples or Google ban one particular gambling website of casino, it's very clear that they will move on to another casino platform to continue from where they stopped, so we have many casino gambling now.

Sooner or later we all lose at gambling. It's very hard to keep your cool when something like this happens. That's not easy. But if you want to put an end to all uncertainty, you shouldn't start gambling at all. Banning players is a temporary solution, as they will continue to gamble at another casino.

Banning ads about gambling can help but can’t totally solve this issue because this will always depend on how you handle losses and addiction, gamblers have to learn this on their own because there are no site that can help them with this. Gambling can be totally devastating sometimes especially if you lose big money and drowning to debt, the only way to survive ok this is to help yourself rise again, go back to the basic and ask for someones help to at least lift you up again.

There is nothing to be done about this, the people which can gamble responsibly will keep being responsibly whether there are gambling ads or not, while those that have a propensity to become addicted will always find a way to fall into some sort of addiction, at best those measures can delay things up but that is it, which is why I have always been against a complete gambling ban as this benefits no one and the costs society has to pay are huge.

These are real life issues that are becoming more common as gambling activities and other activities that can lead to them are becoming more popular. For gambling related issues, with the awareness that the people are becoming more prone to these issues, support and more help centers that are accessible can be established to assist people in these situations. I think that can go a long way.

MAybe there's a language barrier but to me you make it sound like these are caused by gambling. Many of these are disorders you would had your whole life. Gambling addiction doesn't cause them but they can cause Gambling addiction.

What comes to other issues you listed, most of them are treatable by doctors and psychologists. Goverments have intervened too and ordered casinos to set up self-exclusion systems (by law) to help people with low impulse control.

Problem however lies with the people who don't want help nor they understand that they need it.

Different regulations tackle those problems very differently, Finland has already very strict system. Government basically owns monopoly in gambling, mandatory kyc is needed for slots and lottery. This works for us locally, but we can still gamble easily via internet. And i can see that other countries might see such kind of policies as invasive. You mentioned government banning on gambling ads, which doesn't stop gambling, nor it should. But i guess they think that everything counts when you don't want to trigger unstable people .

This is very complicated problem and there are no one working solution.

Personally i think we should do as much as we can to lower the barrier to get help and try to remove the stigma from it. It's really the only thing we can if we won't forcefully treat gambling addicts.

I agree to you, As long as you can control things you can usually control you are not considered as an addict. If you cannot control vices or these bad habits, It is potentially dangerous in different ways and these are mostly on the physical and psychological side damages. There are many factors why people are getting addicted and the most common reason are on the finance side and stress. People are doing these vices or bad habits to release the tension they have on their selves and surely they can overlook it as harmless on the early stages but after they unconsciously repeating it, it could become uncontrollable thing which make it dangerous and possibly diagnose them as an addict.

in my personal opinion gambling ads are okey, while they are mostly restricted to places or environments where adults are and not children. For example, It would be acceptable for casinos to have ads in night clubs, TV programming for adults, parties, etc. On the other hand, gambling ads on teens video games and social media profiles of minors is highly questionable.

One of the measures I believe would be important for less people to commit suicide is easy access to good quality mental healthcare, not only of people with addiction to gambling but in general.

Gambling is harmless as long as it don't become an addiction. Getting addicted to gambling what makes it dangerous imo. People get addicted to various things every day. Smoking, drinking, gambling, chocolates, coffee, drugs... Gambling is just one of those bad habits. Like you said in the OP, there are various underlying reasons that make a person a gambling addict. They are mostly psychological.

A healthy family environment and a good education are usually enough to overcome being an addict.

It sounds cruel enough, but I agree that we need to look for real reasons, and not blame everything on the last reason - gambling, drugs or something else. Often this is a weakness of people. The government should be concerned not to prevent people from making their lives better, but in the population there will always be a percentage of those who will not do anything and will be dissatisfied with everything (I describe the ideal scenario, since often people find themselves in a difficult situation through no fault of their own). For this reason, banning various things is unwise, since most people use them without harm to themselves.

I think you correctly pointed out that there is a relation between gambling and related issues. Everything human beings do excessively mostly is meant to compensate for something that is missing or causing pain in the broader sense. There is a lot of material and scientific research out there showing that in only very rare cases do people drift up to excessive action in something harmful if their life is in order. You could differentiate between traumatic causes leading immediately to a cascade of bad behaviors and outcomes, i.e. a death of a beloved one, you drink alcohol and crash with your car the same day. There is also deeply rooted reasons which could lead to consequences your whole life, depending on how prone you are to post-traumatic effects.

An answer could be to as good as possible strengthen somebody's psyche in the form of medical treatment and mental strength training in order to increase resistance and the ability to deal with past and potentially present traumas. There is a low number of people who simply get stuck in gambling while there is no other reason than the gambling itself.

It is also a bit similar to alcohol abuse in the sense that alcohol is available everywhere and hence it is hard to get away from it. When it comes to any form of self-destructive behavior, a strong network of socially well-established people reduces access and availability in space and time to actually revert to self-destructive behavior. That is why significant social isolation is serious poison to almost everyone. There are great studies about it. Some are in the more general sense why some of them deal with correlated reasons, like people who are lonely more tend to certain self-destructive behaviors.

What method are you going to use to select gamblers who are suicidal? It seems to me that today no state has such methods as most gamblers with gambling addiction are afraid to admit it even to their relatives, let alone psychologists.

Suicide is committed even by seemingly self-confident people who do not stand out from the crowd in any way. Moreover, even if gambling is completely banned there is no guarantee that such people won't commit suicide after losing a large sum of money while playing poker with their friends in their kitchen.

Brewery companies always tell their customers to drink responsible because they know the effect of too much.  I think if gambling companies can also tell customers to bet responsibly it  will reduce the rate at which people plays gambling excessively and uncontrollable, but i don't think this can be possible.

as long as the government still receives large taxes from the gambling business then gambling cannot be stopped and it also will not reduce/eliminate the suicidal tendencies that some people do

the best way to reduce the likelihood of suicide by gamblers is for the government to intensively rehabilitate people who are identified as having a severe gambling addiction

I don't know how politics is in England but providing rehabilitation services to gambling addicts is very important to reduce the suicide rate due to gambling there

In my opinion suicide is the destiny of weak people who do not know how to solve their problems, and in fact all our life consists of problems which have to be solved from day to day. Weak people will always exist because their weakness is a psychological disorder, and it seems to me that in fact there is no difference from what problems they will flee - from unrequited love, misunderstanding from society, debts, gambling, drugs, alcohol, etc. Even if we prohibit everything that can lead such people to suicide, they will find a problem they can't solve anyway.

When it's hard for her to open up to someone else, the main job falls to his relatives, family, and friends. Sometimes the person needs to realize that their behavior has changed. This can be done with a good relationship. It is important to have a good environment in all of the examples we give here. But if the opposite is the case, that person's job is really difficult. He gets through the predicament he is in very hard. Again, it has to do with how strong a person's psychology is. What needs to be done is to get professional support.

Everything relies on the gambler himself. If he is aware that he has family and friends that make his support system, then he will no longer continue gambling and risk his life. I believe the gambler should always be responsible of his actions, if not then that’s the time he will fall into gambling addiction. And when addiction occurs, it’s hard for him to open himself for others most particularly if the government is also showing a negative reaction on people like them.

It's a mental health issue, therefore it's related to the health governmental sector. To ban ads and forbid gamblind don't attack the issue on its root.

Governments shpuld be concerned regards life quality and mental health of their citizens instead. They should launch campaigns where public agents from health sector visit each house asking for informations about everyone living there. Questions like if they have any diseases, take any medications, what was the last time they've gone to the doctor. Furthermore, these agents should schedule medical appointments from times to times for every citizens, including appointments at psychologists and psychiatrics.

That is how governments can work with prevention in an efficient way.

I don't think governments are foolish enough to think that banning gambling ads will put an end to gambling. Even banning gambling does not stop people from gambling. I think this measure is designed to protect vulnerable people, such as young people from seeing gambling ads from an early age.


I believe that the few measures that can be put in place are already being implemented by governments, such as bans or restrictions on advertisements, and obligations on gambling houses to put responsible gambling options available for customers. I say they have a limited impact because at the end of the day the compulsive and problem gambler will find places to gamble even if they have self-excluded themselves from a thousand sites, for example. There will always be gambling and there will always be people who have problems with gambling but these people, like the suicide case you mention, are people who have previous problems and externalise them through gambling, not the other way around.

I'd say it will be mitigated, yes. It will be a gradual process but I think UK is on the right direction to reduce that number. I think a data showing it may have lessen it will be a great piece to be shared in this thread. Banning ads is just one factor, there are lot of factors that may contribute to people being addicted in gambling, it doesn't mean banning it will stop people over it. Total ban on all gambling games I'd say or make it regulated and impose huge taxes on all gambling firms.

actually the government did a ban on gambling advertising it did little to help avoid gambling and reduce all the problems that occur after gambling addiction.
and what can really stop it all is awareness for every gambler. if the government already bans gambling advertising but if gambling addicts still want to bet on gambling, that will not stop someone from quitting gambling. because these addicts will have various ways to be able to bet on gambling even though any restrictions have been placed

IMO, what should be done is to provide advertisements that contain the negative effects of being a gambling addict. although advertising like the one I mentioned can't help completely to overcome the problem but if a gambling addict has seen the negative effects of gambling it will surely make him aware and have a desire to reduce betting in gambling and find ways to slowly stop gambling

The root of the problem will be the gambling place but they will be hardly seen if without the help of ads so banning ads really does help for some person to not be involved in gambling and possibly became an addict later on which could lead to suicides and other life threatening actions. it can be a temporary solution if the banning is not permanent but that was better than not doing it all.

One of the reasons why people play gambling is due to boredom or they don't have something to do so yeah, offering them a job can be a big help as well. Some plays gambling to earn money but if they already have a source of income, they won't gamble anymore.

Gambling is a choice even if the government bad those ads it's the gambler who will decide if they want or don't continue to play,
the government should launch a massive campaign on the bad side of gambling and gambling prevention, here in our country we do this with our liquor and cigarettes and it works but not yet on gambling.
Gambling problems breed many issues so the government should make it easy for their citizen to reach rehabilitation and make it affordable, education and prevention are the only way to minimize problems associated in gambling and government should focus on these two.

The challenge we have here is that we can't control the entire gamblers all over the world at the same time since the gambling sites were also different from each other and every gambler has the choice to choose from his comfort the suitable and most preferred casino to use, i would have suggested a widely campaign against such abuses that comes along with gambling, but having a coordinate organization of the state of affairs in gambling isn't that an easy job to do but the government in it own way has regulated some oart of this challenge but not to zero level to curb the violence thereafter, i also think this is more a personal issues than public or general one since we have people commiting suicide or any other even without being a gambler.

This is the reason why gambling is not for everyone. If you think that you can’t easily control yourself especially if you’re into any addiction, particularly gambling addiction, then never decide to enter gambling in the first place regardless if you do it for fun or for entertainment purposes only. Otherwise, you will find it very hard to exit from gambling especially if you have not win back a lot of your losses.

There might be a lot of ads against gambling, but they don’t bring heavy impact anymore to a gambling addict. The only way to minimize gambling addiction is to admit to yourself that you are now becoming an addict, so that you can ask for your family support and seek medical treatment if needed. That way, you will not resort into worst scenarios like suicidal and other gambling related issues.

there had been lots of prevention, google banning gambling related ads must be one of the effort. the popularity and the gambling business is just too lucrative that even on teens, gambling becomes very usual.

Steam gambling for instance, there are already CSGO skin casinos where the teens playing. winning cheeky CSGO skins lured them to gambling. the Valve   knew about teens gambling but because they profit from it, they don't warn the gamers.

maybe, I mean, fewer or total ban of gambling ads being shown means people with addiction and is trying to better their lives will have less exposure to gambling ads.

I don't know, but what I know is that some countries rely a lot on gambling revenue so I have a feeling that they'd be reluctant on banning gambling ads, as for if it will stop people from gambling, I don't think it will.

proper knowledge about gambling and the dangers of it and more help centers that people can go to if they need help. I am sure there are far better measures than can be done but I think having knowledge about gambling problems and rehabilitation centers could help a lot of people.

There should be family intervention the government can do little about this issue, its the family and close friends that should take these signs seriously when they see it on one of their family or close friends, the foundation of every society is the family a strong family foundation is likely to have these kinds of problems, the government can strengthen this foundation by giving its citizens a good economy and rehabilitation centers and professional help within reach.
Even banning ads cannot stop people to gamble the internet is a big temptation for gamblers and it's hard for gamblers to avoid those ads on the internet, the battle is within the character of the individuals.  

Is alcohol and its advertising already banned in the UK? But it causes a much greater number of deaths and crimes. I don't think that banning anything from ads can solve some imaginary problem because, to begin with, I don't see any connection at all between the harm and what supposedly caused it. If a person initially has mental problems, then he will find a way to worsen it and find a reason for suicide - by the way, even a romantic attachment to someone can become the reason for this. Maybe we should ban romance novels and movies about love?
The most correct thing is to strive for citizens to lead a healthy lifestyle (both physically and mentally), but the problem is that you can’t force anyone (this would be totalitarianism), and many citizens consciously choose a destructive path.

Some people just have a natural suicide tendency. They always feel hopeless in situations that most people have also gone through. Their thought each time they are facing any challenge is suicide. There is also a high rate of suicide caused by relationship marital challenges.

Sometimes there are so many factors that contribute to suicide. In some cases, people that commit suicide suffer from two or more contributors to suicide. Someone that is suffering from alcoholism and gambling addictions has a higher tendency to commit suicide than a person that is addicted to just gambling addiction. Haven said that, some persons became addicts or would become addicted to gambling because of gambling ads which might contribute to their suicidal behavior, but the number would be insignificant compared to other causes of suicide.

Banning gambling ads would contribute to the reduction in the rate of gambling because in recent times we have seen a high increase in very attractive gambling ads. But the banning gambling ads would be an unpopular policy and it would not have much effect on gambling addiction or suicide. 

I think government should set up agencies that would monitor and regulate this gambling ads. People prone to gambling addiction such as children should be shielded from strong and attractive gambling ads. Parents and other citizens should be enlightened by the government on gambling addiction, suicide and other societal vices.

It's the internet if you frequent sites that show gambling ads your government cannot do anything about it, it's different between a physical casinos and online casinos, the government can control physical casinos but not online casinos


The government can educate people on the harm of excessive gambling but controlling ads cannot make them stop gambling, if the government can do without taxes coming from the government then they can ban it, but in my country, our government badly needs those taxes so they can only warn people on the harmful effects.


 

to avoid having this kind of problems, people when they play should not create high expectations like: "I will bet 1$ and I will win 1000$", they should not think that they will get rich, they should not think that they will not lose, they should not think to take revenge when they lose in the game. they must manage their bankroll well, they must always think that they are playing for fun and that the time they are allocating for gambling is time for fun, after that time the person needs to stop playing and do something else in the real world, for example: if the person says that 2H are to play then it has to be only 2H to play and after 2h he has to stop playing and the person always needs to put money that he knows that when he loses he will not need it, for example: if the person put 50$ per week for games, then you only have to use 50$ for games each week

Prevention is better than cure. If in the first place a plaer have limited oneself towards gambling, things would be at ease. But ofcourse we cannot change the past so in order to somehow lessen the drive of engaging into this activity and eventually be too dragged in gambling, practice not spending most of your time in gambling platforms. Make it a way to do other things such as engaging to sports, reading books, watching movies or even socializing with your friends. In such way, you won't be ending up on your couch betting for the whole day. But what if you don't have those hobbies? Then check for your wallet.  Avoid having an on the go budget because it would be more likely be consumed as one of your bets.

Lastly, you may consult a professional if you think you are having a hard time not thinking of gambling. That's way too dangerous if it would be set aside 'coz eventually it may manifest to psychological problems or even physical and emotional.

Gambling is not the source or problem of someone who wants to or commits suicide or other crimes, many other problems arise for someone that they really can't face and at the end of the story are frustrated.
For example:
Domestic problems, dating, debt problems and many other problems.

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Many people I have seen end their lives because of gambling, in the end it was revealed that it was caused by debt, gambling was made the mastermind behind the problem, the fact is not so.
All the points you convey in your thread are true, on the contrary for those who are frustrated and want to commit suicide should think wisely, that gambling is a high risk, losses are greater than gains, of course if they think so some of the points you say will not happen.
For example:
So they don't need to go into debt and sell property owned by the family to bet on gambling, there are many other alternatives they can do to gamble in a healthy and professional manner.
For example: they can take part in competitions and take bonuses offered by online gambling sites, many online gambling sites provide free money and bonuses in various ways so that users can bet without doing things that are detrimental to themselves.

I must say that you have a lot of vital points that are actually new to the table..\
Like you right said, the UK government makes a lot of money from taxes paid by casinos and other gambling firms, so it is quite understandable why they may never comply or give attention to the public demand to ban gambling ads in the country.
But like i said, you have indeed pointed out some important ideas that if implemented into the system, might help to significantly reduce gambling related issues in our society.

Heavy penalties on parents of underaged gamblers is one i love and fully support, there have been an instance in my country where a fifteen years old played a bet and luckily won 35 million in, if converted to USD using todays exchange rate, that should be a little above $46,000, the boy was later that day killed by a vehicle on the high way due to over excitement, though the boy won a really huge amount of money that indeed have helped the family financially, the general public blamed the parents for the boys untimely death saying gambling at such a young age was deadly and the death of the boy proved it.

So i personally think imposing heavy penalties on parents of underaged gamblers is indeed a good way to start, since this addiction of the thing is most times, as a result of starting gambling at ages when the brain have not developed enough strength to deal with some loses probably -- this is just my assumption though, i have nothing to back this up. 

Suicide has never been a way out of any problem one is facing.
Most of this country's government, especially the United kingdom you mentioned generate alot of revenues from this gambling casinos and hence it might be difficult to place a ban on it, though some amendments might be made.
I also suggest a heavy penalty placement on parents of underaged gamblers should be placed and by so doing, the parents will be conscious of the activities of their children so as not to get into paying some huge sums for fines.

Counselling session should be one thing that should be introduced into school and work curriculums to aeast check the mental state and health of people around.
One thing that leads to this stuffs is revenge gambling, when one try all his possible best to recover his loss at all cost and by so doing losses all his money.

I would suggest that government places a regular for a certain number of bets and amounts one can make a day and by so doing, I think this risk might be managed.

Gambling is a problem for many and the more quickly they realise this the better. The reason why such problems persist is because of the endless cycle or loss and chase after loss. Those who have a background of mental disorder or substance use will get addicted to gambling and that problem will exacerbate.

Then there are people who will make sure they play only at times and not bet more than what they can afford. These are th people who manage to have the fun or gambling but not turn them to an addiction, but this rare which is why the industry of gambling flourishes.

It is a tough problem/disease to handle on your own. So one should seek help and be ready to accept that they may be in trouble.

that is true. ads banning won't resolve the root cause of this problem. it may be a temporary solution by the government. but they need to look at long-term solution or at least better approach like offering better jobs or other worthwhile activities to earn extra income. some are getting addicted into this because they don't have anything to do, and they are trying their luck to get "easy" money. but most of the time, instead of getting that money, they incur huge debts as they chase their losses.

If it gets too much to the point that it's hard to control but the gambler realizes and admits that he's doing it wrongly. The first thing is no need to think of it but rather go and seek immediate professional help.
It's either psychiatrists or psychologists. Both of that professional titles are into mental behavior and they can treat that because that's the profession and specialization that they've studied.

There isn't much to be done honestly, as the gamblers themselves should know whether or not they're already crossing a point of no return. All other people can do is to warn them of the possible negative effects of too much gambling. Ads advocating against gambling won't stop any gambler honestly, similar to how negative ads are already placed on most cigarettes yet people aren't deterred in using them. It's a mental and psychological disorder that the gambler themselves, or anyone close to them, should know before any action can be done—at least in my opinion.

First of all we need to learn to quit and learn self control,if we see that we are addicted and are having trouble to quit the first thing we need to do is to seek for help,first from our family which is the basis to solve all of our problems like this one and then soon after to go to a rehabilitation center if we still cannot quit after talking with our family.This basically removes and reduces every suicide attempt that an addicted person can surely have if he is drown in debt and looks as life has no way out or no meaning to him.

Everything else like removing ads it is not going to work as you cannot ban the internet which is full of these ads,sure you can ban them nationally in TV but most people gamble from the internet so it is up the gambler himself to save himself by asking for help in cases of addiction.

Gambling site will not want ads to be banned, but it has to in some areas, especially that kids are accessing. The government of many countries see gambling tax to be a good revenue for them they will somehow be in support of gambling sites and only have little amendment in regulation, but not ban. But if gambling ads are banned, people that will join gambling site in the country will reduce.

Like I said, what is most important is to ban gambling ads on where kids are visiting. I was surprised that my country had gone to the extent that gambling sites are advertised on prepaid channels which makes it not advisable for kids.

I have been a victim, discipline is the first, and not seeing gambling as a way of making money, it is not a way to make money because the odds are set in a way gamblers are more likely to lose in total than to win. We should not hide the bad realities to children, friends me family and how they can be addicted and to avoid it. We should gamble responsibly, not chasing money.

Hi everyone, i trust ya all having a great day...

Like the subject of this topic say, its a question i am putting out to you all, as a member of the gambling community, what do you think can be done to reduce the gambling related issues like --

• Substance Misuse problems
• Depression
• Personality Disorder
• Fear and Anxiety
• Obsessive-compulsive Disorder (OCD)
• Bipolar Disorder
• Attention Deficit/hyperactivity Disorder (ADHD)

The above issues can some or most times results to the complications below, and they are --

• Financial Problems
• Relationship[/Family Problems
• General Health issues
• Low Self Esteem
• Legal/Social Problems
• Poor Performance at work or Job Loss

And worst of it all --

• Suicidal Thoughts/Attempts

And finally --

• Suicide

From one article i was reading this morning, the UK government officially stated that there are more than 409 suicides a year in England which results from gambling problems.

Here is a quote from an article i read this morning --


From the same article, i learnt that --
Liz and Charles Ritchie (whoever they were before now), founded the gambling with lives charity organization after their Son, Jack, took his life in 2017 due to gambling addiction.

Majority in the UK, last year(2021) called on the government of UK to place a total ban on gambling ads.

Now I do not know if this ban on gambling ads was or has been unforced in the UK, but my question now is,
\if the UK goes ahead to enforce the ban on gambling ads in the country, you think this will reduce the number of suicides, and other gambling related problems in the country?
\Do you think banning gambling ads is a good measure for the entire government of the world should enforce? will this really stop people from gambling?
\In your own opinion, what measures do you think is appropriate to take that will help reduce the issues, gambling related problems cause in our society?

Lets discuss.