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Quote from: Timelord2067 on September 03, 2020, 05:20:15 PM

Quote from: allahabadi on September 03, 2020, 12:14:06 PM

So do you stand by your accusations?

If yes, then why remove your neg and if u made a mistake in judgement then he is correct in not trusting you.

I'm fairly sure it's seen as retaliatory to leave counter feedback, and as was discussed just a few days ago, leaving negative trust feedback for a neutral (was it neutral by the OP??) comment is "too harsh".

I totally get ur point; but don't think either of them is DT, also maybe the counter feedback is justified on parameters which the person doesn't trust OP and not just blind retaliation.

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Quote from: allahabadi on September 03, 2020, 12:14:06 PM

So do you stand by your accusations?

If yes, then why remove your neg and if u made a mistake in judgement then he is correct in not trusting you.

I'm fairly sure it's seen as retaliatory to leave counter feedback, and as was discussed just a few days ago, leaving negative trust feedback for a neutral (was it neutral by the OP??) comment is "too harsh".

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Quote from: Little Mouse on September 02, 2020, 08:43:48 PM

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Quote from: allahabadi on September 02, 2020, 11:28:44 AM

Just cause you removed your negative doesn't mean others will remove their negative as well, infact he is right to not trust you if you did make false accusations.

Before you say this, you should have read this. I have accused him because he was COO of the agency, we had discussion about translation with him. Now you say, why would not you accuse him? Read this thread first- https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/dt-everyone-cryptojinet-agency-cheating-translators-from-the-forum-5186739

So do you stand by your accusations?

If yes, then why remove your neg and if u made a mistake in judgement then he is correct in not trusting you.

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You think you've got problems with negative trust feedback, then you should browse this collection of bile.

Those that aren't on DT (and are never likely to be) will leave the most offensive squealing bile known in creation, yet nothing is done let alone a tut-tut to the poster.

May as well wear them as a Badge of Honour 'cause they 'aint gonna go away anytime soon.

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Quote from: Little Mouse on September 02, 2020, 08:03:59 AM

I want anyone of them to PM ChiNgadOr and ask them to reply here and share why he thinks my action toward that case was not appropriate. I think he will not neglect to respond from such reputed user.

I have already written to you that I had the opportunity to participate in a discussion with a member who left you negative feedback - and the only thing he cares about is the project he advertises in his signature and which is shilling in Altcoins boards. If someone asked him via private messages to change something about a negative feedback, I would not be surprised if he reported such a message to the admin or left negative feedback to that member.

As others advise you, you better not waste time on things like this - its feedback in the existing DT system is worth nothing. I see you as +1 / =0 / -0, and that is the only thing that matters.

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Quote from: LoyceV on September 02, 2020, 11:17:07 AM

You have 6 "untrusted" negative feedbacks, I have 9.

I have 65, and suchmoon has 126! Cheesy

Lauda has about 295, possibly more as I accidentally lost count on page 3 for a couple seconds. That is probably the biggest ratio of untrusted-to-trusted reds for a single account.

But in short, OP, if you can't come to an agreement with this person to get your tag removed, I'd say don't worry about it as it is highly unlikely they (in particular) will ever be on DT2.

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Quote from: Little Mouse on September 02, 2020, 08:43:48 PM

Asking someone politely to respond in a thread can never be a pm spam. This rule is there to prevent pm sent in bulk.

If you do it more than once it can be spam (unsolicited unwanted message). Asking others to PM because the recipient didn't respond to you is kinda like spammers spoof e-mail addresses to make it look like your family members are trying to sell you Viagra.

And it would't help anyway, perhaps it'd just annoy the person and have an opposite effect than what you're trying to achieve. Let it go.

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Quote from: LoyceV on September 02, 2020, 11:17:07 AM

That's probably against the rules:

Quote from: mprep on July 21, 2014, 12:27:51 PM

29. Sending unsolicited PMs, including but not limited to advertising and flood, is not allowed.

Asking someone politely to respond in a thread can never be a pm spam. This rule is there to prevent pm sent in bulk.

Quote from: allahabadi on September 02, 2020, 11:28:44 AM

Just cause you removed your negative doesn't mean others will remove their negative as well, infact he is right to not trust you if you did make false accusations.

Before you say this, you should have read this. I have accused him because he was COO of the agency, we had discussion about translation with him. Now you say, why would not you accuse him? Read this thread first- https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/dt-everyone-cryptojinet-agency-cheating-translators-from-the-forum-5186739

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Quote from: Little Mouse on September 02, 2020, 08:15:47 AM

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I have had nothing with ChiNgadOr, I have accused him of being scammer and later withdrawn my accusation. So, he should remove the tag and that's why I'm here. ~

Just cause you removed your negative doesn't mean others will remove their negative as well, infact he is right to not trust you if you did make false accusations.

You realised later that you were wrong; but that doesn't make you trust worthy.

Also stop asking for ppl to remove neg after you know tht they r ignoring u. In your case you atleast made a mistake; in my case I didn't even make mistake and am negged. If u care abt your business so much then don't go on negging others as most will retaliate.

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Quote from: Little Mouse on September 02, 2020, 03:12:49 AM

I would appreciate any reputed member like suchmoon, LoyceV to come forward and help me removing the tag.

You have 6 "untrusted" negative feedbacks, I have 9. Obviously, I don't have any power to convince people to remove tags.

Quote from: Little Mouse on September 02, 2020, 08:03:59 AM

I want anyone of them to PM ChiNgadOr

That's probably against the rules:

Quote from: mprep on July 21, 2014, 12:27:51 PM

29. Sending unsolicited PMs, including but not limited to advertising and flood, is not allowed.

Especially since he knows already:

Quote from: Little Mouse on September 01, 2020, 07:59:10 AM

I have tried to reach him through bitcointalk pm and telegram but got no response at all.

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What can I do to get out of this tag?

Nothing. So just stop worrying about it. People have much worse feedback than this.

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It will depend on the person who left that feedback with since the trust system is unmoderated even red tags can't be remove by mods. Try to resolve the issue with the user and see if he change his mind but usually tags like this where you pissed a user off is something that they won't remove since they'll be even more happy that you are noticing their untrusted feedback towards you.

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Quote from: Little Mouse on September 02, 2020, 08:15:47 AM

They do man. Otherwise, I would manage one more signature campaign which now been managed by someone else. Owner could not trust me with fund as they saw some negative feedback in my profile and they were not agreed to spend money with escrow.

@examplens was probably referring to that particular tag for which this thread was started, as has been pointed out already here, you have multiple negetive feedbacks from other members who are much closer to DT and their feedback has more controversial content than the one left by ChiNgadOr.

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Listen, I would try to remove each of the negative tag as I don't deserve any of them. ChiNgadOr is not a shit spammer, so I believe he will remove the tag eventually. He should have understood. I care because these feedbacks does not look good at all.
This does not mean I'm dying for removing the feedbacks. For example, I have been offered by anonym1337x that if I remove his tag, he will also remove mine but I do not care only because my feedback toward him can not be removed as it is a valid feedback.
I have had nothing with ChiNgadOr, I have accused him of being scammer and later withdrawn my accusation. So, he should remove the tag and that's why I'm here. Other tags may be removed eventually once I get enough time to talk with them.

Quote from: examplens on September 02, 2020, 08:08:48 AM

also they do not ruin your business here.

They do man. Otherwise, I would manage one more signature campaign which now been managed by someone else. Owner could not trust me with fund as they saw some negative feedback in my profile and they were not agreed to spend money with escrow.

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I am not sure, why do you insist to remove negative trust from users like ChiNgadOr, which is not DT member, as far as I can see from his trust list, it probably won't be soon DT1 or Dt2. only he can see neg feedback on your profile. For example, I see only Lauda's neg tag there.
it is the oldest neg feedback on your profile page, I see there are few more negative feedbacks. which is different if ChiNgadOr even deleted it?
what will you do with the other negative tags? (I did not enter into the significance and truth of the accusations)

Quote from: Little Mouse on September 02, 2020, 03:12:49 AM

I would appreciate any reputed member like suchmoon, LoyceV to come forward and help me removing the tag.

it will not happen, trust rating can be changed only by the user who left it, besides, this is not so important tag also they do not ruin your business here.

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Quote from: Lucius on September 02, 2020, 04:52:44 AM

I think you are going to a dead end with the idea that one of the above members can help you in a particular case - only in case he is DT and his feedback is not appropriate/correct you could expect counter feedback or exclusion of that member from DT.

I want anyone of them to PM ChiNgadOr and ask them to reply here and share why he thinks my action toward that case was not appropriate. I think he will not neglect to respond from such reputed user.

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Quote from: Little Mouse on September 02, 2020, 03:12:49 AM

I have been trying to contact him for the last year, have tried PM here, reached through telegram but he never replied. I have waited such long to get a communication with him. Since I did not get any, I have created this thread.
I would appreciate any reputed member like suchmoon, LoyceV to come forward and help me removing the tag.

Not replying to your message or blocking you is a very clear message that is sent to you in this way - silence is in some cases a very clear message, quite clear for those who want to understand it. As other members have already written to you, only the person who left you feedback can remove or change it.

I think you are going to a dead end with the idea that one of the above members can help you in a particular case - only in case he is DT and his feedback is not appropriate/correct you could expect counter feedback or exclusion of that member from DT.

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Quote from: Lucius on September 01, 2020, 08:30:55 AM

Little Mouse, but this feedback is almost a year old (2019-09-23), why are you only reacting now?

I have been trying to contact him for the last year, have tried PM here, reached through telegram but he never replied. I have waited such long to get a communication with him. Since I did not get any, I have created this thread.
I would appreciate any reputed member like suchmoon, LoyceV to come forward and help me removing the tag.

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Quote from: The Sceptical Chymist on September 01, 2020, 09:05:50 AM

Is there anything special about ChiNgadOr's feedback that's bothering you?

Both users seem to be bounty managers so maybe there is some sort of... uhm... competitive spirit.

Nothing like that. Some people including me was hired by a translation agency and ChiNgadOr was the who made communication with us most of the times, there was another guy too who was CEO of their translation agency. ChiNgadOr was introduced as CFO or whatever. Then they scammed every translator other than me as I had escrowed the payment with Darkstar_. That's why I accused ChiNgadOr to be associated with the agency and red tag him but later realized that he was not involved directly although he may lie. I removed the tag but the tag I got from him was not removed.

Quote from: Rikafip on September 01, 2020, 11:42:24 AM

I find it interesting that RapTarX tagged for exactly the same reason you complain here, user not responding to your private messages. (maybe this is good opportunity to sort that out ).

Both are different case although I still feel guilty for this.

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Quote from: The Sceptical Chymist on September 01, 2020, 09:05:50 AM

That's what I was wondering as well--and I swear I thought that user was inactive since I haven't seen any of his posts in a long time, but apparently not. His last activity was yesterday, but the last post I could view on his profile was from April. That could be because I have a lot of sections on ignore, but has ChiNdgadOr been posting on the forum lately? He might not even see this thread.

@The Pharmacist, to answer your question, yes, ChiNdgadOr has been active and posting on the forum, do you have the Altcoin section on ignore? That's where he makes most of his posts, so if you do have it on ignore, that's why you can't see any of his posts lately. His last post was yesterday, August 31.

But since ChiNdgadOr rarely posts outside of the altcoin(Ann) section, you're right that he may not see this thread, Little Mouse can PM him to get him to post here, but since he's ignored his pm's already, he'll likely act the same way, maybe some other user.

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Quote from: Little Mouse on September 01, 2020, 07:59:10 AM

I have tried to reach him through bitcointalk pm and telegram but got no response at all. What can I do to get out of this tag? I know this is untrusted feedback but it doesn't look good to be honest.

If he isn't interested to discuss with you about the negative feedback then i will suggest you not to waste your time on this matter. Different people have different thinking and we can't change their decision by giving force from our end. Its better to let him consider about the feedback and maybe he can change his mind in the upcoming days. Yeah you are right that it doesn't look good to see negative trusts but we have no power to remove them either its valid or not.

"ChiNgadOr" was active yesterday and maybe he will make response here after seeing your thread.

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Quote from: Little Mouse on September 01, 2020, 07:59:10 AM

I have tried to reach him through bitcointalk pm and telegram but got no response at all. What can I do to get out of this tag? I know this is untrusted feedback but it doesn't look good to be honest.

I find it interesting that RapTarX tagged for exactly the same reason you complain here, user not responding to your private messages. (maybe this is good opportunity to sort that out ).

As others pointed out, you shouldn't be too worried about ChiNgadOr negative feedback as he is unlikely to reach DT status anytime soon, but if you are worried about negative feedbacks in general, maybe you should try to sort out those that have much higher chances of being visible to others, as you have few of those as well.

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Quote from: Little Mouse on September 01, 2020, 07:59:10 AM

Reason- None, I have accused him associated with a scam

Some users do retaliatory negative feedback, just because they can. And unless he removes it... you'll have it there.
But don't worry and clearly get used to this. Since it's not a DT, his feedback means almost nothing and the chance you'll meet in the future other individuals of this kind is not too small.
Just look at my feedback, the (im)famous game-protect was among the ones painted it. He did this to a very big number of users and.. we still have that. (And it's not the only example.)

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This feedback is untrusted and I think you should not be so worried about it. Ask him to check this thread and respond here. I think he will remove it since the feedback isn't properly used here.

Quote from: The Sceptical Chymist on September 01, 2020, 09:05:50 AM

Is there anything special about ChiNgadOr's feedback that's bothering you?

It was started by Little Mouse as he said in the OP that once Little Mouse accused him of being scammer.

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The feedback doesn't matter because the user in question is nowhere near DT as of now. It should be an issue once he's on DT. If he refuses to remove the feedback then other DT members would have to exclude him after their judgement of the feedback left by him. That's the best members can do to help you once ChiNgadOr gets to be part of DT but until then, there's nothing to worry about.

Here is his latest custom trust list from Loyce.club

Quote from: The Sceptical Chymist on September 01, 2020, 09:05:50 AM

That's what I was wondering as well--and I swear I thought that user was inactive since I haven't seen any of his posts in a long time, but apparently not. His last activity was yesterday, but the last post I could view on his profile was from April. That could be because I have a lot of sections on ignore, but has ChiNdgadOr been posting on the forum lately? He might not even see this thread.

He was also banned then unbanned at one point according to bpip.

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Quote from: The Sceptical Chymist on September 01, 2020, 09:05:50 AM

Is there anything special about ChiNgadOr's feedback that's bothering you?

Both users seem to be bounty managers so maybe there is some sort of... uhm... competitive spirit.

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Quote from: Lucius on September 01, 2020, 08:30:55 AM

Little Mouse, but this feedback is almost a year old (2019-09-23), why are you only reacting now? In addition, you have 5 more negative feedbacks, which in my opinion are much more dangerous in the sense that one of these users will one day become a DT - which is not the case for now.

That's what I was wondering as well--and I swear I thought that user was inactive since I haven't seen any of his posts in a long time, but apparently not. His last activity was yesterday, but the last post I could view on his profile was from April. That could be because I have a lot of sections on ignore, but has ChiNdgadOr been posting on the forum lately? He might not even see this thread.

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Quote from: Little Mouse on September 01, 2020, 07:59:10 AM

What can I do to get out of this tag?

You have already done what you need to do by creating this thread. ChiNgadOr should reply when he will notice this thread.

Agree with the above if you've already tried to PM him. And I suspect if you got no response from him that he's probably not willing to change/remove his feedback. But like Lucius mentioned above, it's not DT feedback and you've got other negs that might turn into DT negs. Is there anything special about ChiNgadOr's feedback that's bothering you?

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Quote from: Little Mouse on September 01, 2020, 07:59:10 AM

What can I do to get out of this tag?

You have already done what you need to do by creating this thread. ChiNgadOr should reply when he will notice this thread.

I believe you know better since seems you are quite active in the reputation section, who have left the feedback only he can consider either it should remove or exist. If you see my untrusted feedback then you will notice much feedback which is false. So, you shouldn't worry much about it, although looking not good but we can't do anything, counter feedback isn't appropriate for untrusted feedback. Just build your skin more thicker.

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Little Mouse, but this feedback is almost a year old (2019-09-23), why are you only reacting now? In addition, you have 5 more negative feedbacks, which in my opinion are much more dangerous in the sense that one of these users will one day become a DT - which is not the case for now.

As for the user in question here, I can only say that I met his character in the Economic board and that he is the last one you can hope to change or delete his feedback.

Quote from: ChiNgadOr on March 25, 2020, 07:55:43 AM

Well, I come back to you when BTC reach 1k or 2k in the next months.. and I would be expecting your answer here.

If by any chance he answers you on PM, tell him I'm still waiting for him, although somehow I think I will never get that answer...

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You can only have the feedback removed by the user who left it.
Basically you should not pay too much attention to such feedback.
theymos only intervenes if feedback is e.g. insulting. But even then only in an extreme case. So there is no way around the user who left it.

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The only one to remove it is the guy who left it.
Look at my feedback. Many foolish bullshit reasons left there, even from people who were banned after, but those stay there, and I don't really care about them. Don't pay attention to irrelevant feedback.

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I have been tagged by this user ChiNgadOr- https://bitcointalksearch.org/user/chingador-1176794
Reason- None, I have accused him associated with a scam which I have withdraw later. This is the feedback text-

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this guy got some kind of brain damage or is blind, so he didnt read all what was explained already. He tries to harm my reputation, shooting the messenger. Company is responsible for payment, i am just translator and organized rest of translators. Cryptoji was reliable so far, and still got time until december to pay.
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5186739.0;all

I have tried to reach him through bitcointalk pm and telegram but got no response at all. What can I do to get out of this tag? I know this is untrusted feedback but it doesn't look good to be honest.

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