Topic: What China is hiding from us and are they doing it to save their economy? (Read 735 times)

I don't think someone or an organization would dare to plan and execute this kind of crisis because, almost all of the things that make the world revolving had stopped: parents can't provide food for their family, disrupting the economic balance, stirs up trouble across borders, and makes confusion around the globe. It affected mostly all the sectors in every country, even the stock market is down. All are affected by the pandemic, and if someone planned this, they knew well that they are too would be affected severely by this crisis, and no one would go that far just for some personal interests.

First of all, if China planned all of this then what about the previous pandemic in our history whose fault is that and who we're gonna blame? I don't think China did that but the possibilities is possible since it's all about the economy just like funding the wars. I'm sure someone is really behind all of this but we can't pinpoint yet who is that and what really is their intention.

You have to understand the mentality of Chinese. The figures that they released is not the real one. They can manipulate the numbers, that's not the real numbers as many articles are stating that some deaths are not accounted for. Even Chinese themselves are claiming that their relatives' deaths are not included in the official tally. But anyway, I don't believe the conspiracy theory that Chinese did this intentionally. Maybe, when this pandemic arises, they just capitalize this situation to advance their economic status.

High recovery rate and even many of the places that were closed including Wuhan has been opened and this has raise a lot of concern as to why there are high recovery rate especially in some areas that were first hit by the virus. Just few day ago, there has been news linking the virus with 5 G network. I strongly believe there are more to this virus

Lol this same topic has caused serious debate where I live. A lot of people are saying that China should be blamed for this outbreak and that they know everything about it, while others are defending them and saying it's not true, that this is just another disease that came out from nowhere.

We can't really tell what it truly is, but judging from some of the things I have seen from social medias, it's kind of suspicious and seems like the Chinese government might know about this pandemic. Some people have even claimed that they released the coronavirus to bring down the economy of their competitors so that they would be on top.

You think that, I think something else, and so on… All we have are thoughts and personal opinions, based on things we read, news we follow, and most of all country we are living in. In last few days I am thinking that we will never know what happened exactly, this mess suits politicians and their agendas, all of them are using virus to get more attention, they are spending our money for their personal promotions. Look what they did, I thought lock down is possible only in prisons, but looks like I was wrong about that.
We can point fingers in China, but I think they are not alone in this game. I will not be surprised one day if we find out how many countries were involved in creation of this virus!

Honestly I think China made it. First, they have the biggest number of recovery in just a number of days and their country is recovering from it, in just a few days. Additionally, they are selling test kits from all over the world and they are taking some islands near their territory. Other countries cases are getting worsen and China, where it originated it is recovering fast just like nothing happen. I am not surprise if one day, they discover the cure and going to sell it all over the world.

I have also seen several points that account China as the sole responsible for the spread of the virus. One, it haven't reached Beijing which is the capital. Two, North Korea and Russia haven't reported cases wherein they are both allies of the country. Three, Europe and America is severly damaged, both competitors and leading countries in the world. Four, their economy hasn't reported or seen a huge backfire or decline compared to other countries and they have controlled the virus easily. Fifth, they had equipments and machineries ready for construction and rehabilitation. Sixth, their whistle blower is killed. And lastly, news reports say they are already building and marking territories in the West Philippine Sea.

To hear this reason is actually disappointing and saddening to know that tl destroy others, is to kills hundreds and thousands of lives including their own. If we are to consider the economic status of Europe and America, well there is really a huge decline. People all over the world as well as their own are deppressed and in fear. In order to save their economy, they had to do this. I just hope it is all a lie. I just hope that they wouldn't meet the karma they would have once this all ends.

If the virus is indeed from china i think they won't hide the real numbers of deaths, they will run everything naturally without hiding anything to the world because that will smell fishy, if they really created the virus i think they're fully prepared for it, they know how will they minimize the deaths and things they need to do while the virus is spreading. They will hide nothing but the fact that they are the one who created the virus and they are prepared for it, if they really do.

The corona virus or the COVID-19 is really from China because the virus called Sars is also from China, which it doesn't take too long to spread all over the world. I think China is not hiding their numbers of death or people who are infected. I think the thing that China is hiding from us is who is the one who have spread and created the virus.

it's not that they are only disciplined there government made sure everyone follows protocols like they're in the war which is why now there almost free from coronavirus right now and now they are making money while other country is facing crisis.

China has certainly hidden something from us in terms of saving their economy China's economy has not suffered much thanks to the way other countries' economies are disrupted The virus doesn't originate from anywhere you only said it's natural. God's wrath. he's the sole one who can save us from this epidemic.

What I see is that China created a good strategy to contain the Coronavirus pandemic. China says they warned the WHO and the world that the virus was dangerous. So why the entities responsible for public health did not take strict measures to prevent the spread of the virus.
Now we have a totally uncontrolled virus. It is incredible to see the most developed countries in the world-leading a list of more people infected with the virus and with alarming numbers of deaths.

They are disciplined is what you are saying. That is true though, I've watched a lot of my countrymen in China talking how disciplined and how they follow the protocols and policies in quarantine. It is possible because also of the help of their government that knows what to do in terms of that crisis.

wuhan official death count: 2563
wuhan estimated death count based on funeral home activity: 42000 - 47000

https://www.washingtonpost.com/world/asia_pacific/chinese-families-should-be-sweeping-graves-now-but-thousands-still-havent-buried-their-dead/2020/04/03/5a6daa50-7234-11ea-ad9b-254ec99993bc_story.html

if we apply infection and death rates based on population size from italy to wuhan, then we would expect 50-60k deaths and 2 million+ infections. that's probably a more realistic ballpark estimate than anything coming out of china.

especially when we consider new data coming out about how easy to transmit the coronavirus is. scientists now believe the infection may be transmitted just by breathing! https://www.sciencemag.org/news/2020/04/you-may-be-able-spread-coronavirus-just-breathing-new-report-finds#

It is evident from the number of reports published by China that the figures does not match up when you take into account that the virus started from China and the countries that followed had an idea about the virus and still they could not handle the spread and now we have over a millions positive cases globally and if China says that their death toll is just 3500, it is hard to believe from a country with a huge population, even in countries like India Pakistan and Bangladesh the number of people that are tested are really low and so is the reason you see a lesser number of positive cases.

Well China took some serious measure to ensure the social distance, there are a lot of materials on social media, this is why the number of the casualties in China is lower compared with Europe or US.

I like to believe that they tend to hide the numbers because it can ruin their economy and I read that they are indeed hiding the real numbers and maybe there are still people in Wuhan with the virus, but latest stat right now USA is now the number one among the number of infected and this will ruin their economy and recession will likely to happen if this last long. 

Maybe and maybe. That is what they will do to eliminate the competitions among the USA and European country. And by spreading that virus, yes, they indirectly attack all country, and that is happening now. They can say that they did not create it, and it is a disease which can occur in any country, but the truth is, we don't know the truth. But I don't think that the USA and the European country will not do anything because I guess right now, while they still helping people, they can have a plan to do something.


Yes, I heard about the lab, but I am not sure that the media can investigate that place. I am sure that they will hide the lab if the lab exists, and they will there is no lab in here. We wish that lab does not exist.

But I have heard that China has a lab in Wuhan which has many such viruses for testing purposes and they say that the Coronavirus was mistakenly spread from that lab. I don't know if it's true or a rumour but what is confirmed is that they do have a laboratory there which contains viruses for testing purposes.

manny people think china did that to destroy the USA or European country's economy and some people agree its natural virus and its been with us long time they just become strong recently which may be caused by global warming.

No way China would prepare something like this, corona is a virus, it is not a biological weapon. Plus china was doing quite alright before all of this started, why would they need to release a virus to the world?

I mean they were churning up profits like crazy and even with the trade disagreements and all the things going on they literally had TRILLIONS of dollars in bank accounts and they were basically buying up stuff all around the world. No way they would want to risk that, now they have to give a break and take care of this virus first and then they can come back, this doesn't only hurt on their land, it hurts other places as well, so it is quite unprofitable for them in every step of the way. If china wasn't doing so well and this helped them I would have understood, but its not like that.

The news of Chinese buying stocks in US and EU may be true because the Chinese market didn't correct a lot or relatively very low when compared to other countries so they can sell their profitable asset there to buy the cheap stocks in US and European nations and eventually someone will come up with the medicine so the market will recover and they can benefit from that. If rumours are true they might have that vaccine already

I don’t know about this, but have you tried to check the number of active cases and the number that has recovered?
The number of recovery seems to be very high compared to other countries. And the cases have not been much (not that I wish).

Another thing is that they were even selling fake Tests kits to the world, does that mean they want the virus to keep spreading around the world? Another thing you have to consider is why they rejected offers to help them at first? I can go on for long to keep mentioning a lot of things they have done that makes everything to seem suspicious.

Right now no one can provide any solide information about his all because we have really conspriancy behind this all but in near future all will appear and then world will watch what happen because I watch few videos which are saying this all done by uncle sam but we have no solide proof about this best thing stay home stay safe.

There is a funny thing happening in many countries .
In countries like UK they are going to be adoption heard immunity , allowing people to be infected so that they will be able to work properly .
In many developing countries like Ukraine , doctors are being advised to decrease the number of cases they are receiving and the administration is so strict with it that no one knows except for the people in the medicine sector , they are ignoring the people who have mild symptoms. Telling them they are healthy and the rates are very very high but on the boards it is not.

I'm not so.sure that China is to blame because of everything. Yes, they maybe aren't telling the whole truth but which country is? When it comes to situations like we have now every country is hidiing something.
Also, there are some theories that China is victim in the whole situation and that virus was actually planted to them.
I don't support conspiracy theories and I'm not taking anyone's side here but the medal  always has two sides.

Possibly they can because they never accepted the trust initially when corona was found and even the doctor who found the infection first is no more now so there is something behind this COVID 19. Whatever the reason could be but people are getting affected all over the world but in China, the real-life is coming slowly so they are doing better compared to other countries.If they can do now then other countries also will follow the same and save their economy as well.

agree we should stop putting blame on others and work on to help people those need in this situation and save ourselves and our family right now all we can do stay home and that's how we fight coronavirus. lets all work together for the sake of humanity and we shouldn't treat badly any animal.

Just friendly advice, you can edit your post reply in at once and don't make double replies in one row. Because it looks like you are spamming your own thread. And this is also a part of forum rules.
I hope it makes sense now.

Back to your topic, I don't who is going to blame about this pandemic virus that was made by China, people there? Or maybe they are also a victim here. We don't know the real reason behind the scene who is manipulating and cheating but let just assume that it is a calamity and we are all victims on this COVID-19 that keep spreading. There is hiding or none, we should secure of self and stay safe of the sid decease.
China's government is very clever when it comes to the economy but we can't accuse them right at this moment.

I think that too but there are people are fighting about it and everyday new information coming in light and it's making it more complicated.

that's good for both countries and I saw in news American scientists telling coronavirus is not boi-weapon is a natural disease and its been with us long time coronavirus changed and become dangerous recently and I hope this report is true. stay safe everyone and if possible help those who are suffering most in this crisis.

To imagine that a country would kill its own population for money is very bizarre. This virus in my opinion is more linked to a lack of social structure than to an economic plan.

After corona virus attack United State now both countries look friendly and forget about how war market economic before both them, now China try to help United State how to improved and get back United State people from corona virus attack.

Chinese were not that involve in the sell of cryptocurrency in March dump, they didn't need money cause all necessities were delivered to their doorstep and at the time of sell off they were already under lockdown, however, Wuhan was the only community hit so hard with 11 million population, a population similar to New York city (18 million). Am also afraid the wealth traded in the space could also be acquired in Asia at the time

well I know it's really hard to guess which one is true but there is many theory going on and China is really good at hiding the truth so maybe we will never know the truth about what really happened.

because of that now the whole world in this crisis and going through the economy fall which will leave a huge number of people jobless and crime will rise again.

 here I fund news here they're saying that in Wuhan coronavirus death count of approximately 2,500 deaths to date, with most people believing the actual number is at least 40,000. this tells cina are not really telling us real number  and maybe we will never know how many died.

WTF, so they have been cheating all this time... No wonder the data is so abnormal. If they can do this kind of manipulation, maybe they even did the test only for patients with symptoms. This incompetence could cause so many carriers have been roaming freely on the streets.

Yes, good point. I remembered my Chinese Boss when the quarantine is not yet imposed, he told us that we should not believe what their government or tv news saying because some of it were just covered up to their plans or mistakes. He did mentioned that there are a lot of dirty things happening on their country, so when I heard that I read some articles and found out this suspicious article released by one of the highest rank on their team which was on mission for covid-19, he tell there that the virus was just a made up plan of china. This is hard to believe but anything could be possible either negative or positive. Also China is now the country that has a lot of recovered patients thinking that the virus is originated there, they also provide the number of deaths but I'm thinking that they are manipulating us about this data. Also they are now selling vaccines to different countries which helps them to prevent or fight the virus. Well, i don't know what is the truth about these stuff, whatever it is, time will reveal it.

You are right that they kept the first information secret but they weren't ready to make money. they need not been ready to fully control the coronavirus yet China is emerging again 31 people were attacked during a single day. China's lockdown hasn't opened yet Everything is off.

Conspiracy theories aside, one thing we know for sure is China hasn't been including asymptomatic cases in its confirmed totals. The CDC currently thinks asymptomatic cases represent up to 25% of all cases. Some models say even more.

The Chinese government announced that starting today they would include asymptomatic cases in the official count: https://www.cnn.com/2020/03/31/asia/china-asymptomatic-coronavirus-cases/index.html

So we could start seeing higher numbers coming out of China again. I'm curious how the markets will respond if so. A lot of the current buoyancy in the stock markets is hinging on a strong Chinese recovery.

We can't guarantee that China is saying the truth. Nobody knows the actual truth and hence nobody can say if China is behind this or not.
Talking about personal opinions, I think that Yes China must be faking the numbers because I saw in the news that more than 50K cell phone numbers have gone dormant recently which obviously gives us doubts about China faking the numbers. Beijing not having even a single Covid-19 case is another reason why I think China must be behind this. Also, China has been recovering too soon which makes me think if they really have the vaccine.
May be China planned all of this or may be not but it surely did start from China and it shouldn't have. We should never forgive China for this.

It's a different case, Chernobyl was a nuclear reactor failure.

I think it's more to save their asses from sanctions and UN intervention (about closing their wild animal markets).

But scientists have predicted this event would occur. We can find a lot of SARS 1.0 paper stating similar statements.

What we learn is that:
- China didn't learn from SARS 1.0;
- China didn't take the SARS 2.0 seriously;
- China doesn't want to take responsibility.

I don't think there is financial benefit on top of this pandemic, since all markets are connected.

It's more of the fact that China wants to prop up their communist regime through propaganda. It's clear they were lying about their numbers once they pushed out all journalists from their country. There were reports of single funeral homes giving out upwards of 500 individual cremated remains in Wuhan with other funeral homes giving out similar numbers. The number of 3k deaths is garbage.

It is possible that the Chinese government is just quietly buying up stocks on stock exchanges in order to prevent collapse, and this helps their economy, there are no other explanations for this situation, when everything falls and I grow China.

Cryptocurrency market looks stable so it must be stable.

Social media isn't moderated, they may have fact checker to the news coming out in social media but I think its only to the country they wanna control the news. If you have read because feed of Chinese conspiracy theory came onto your page then, you were targeted for you to think China created the virus deliberately for their benefit. The truth is that regular people like us can't verify anything that's coming even the news on TV are controlled by big businesses.

well for media its hot topic to gain popularity more conspiracy theory with solid points give everyone doubt and people look for more update which gives them an opportunity to earn money and crypto is rising in this crisis making the high chance that government will recognize more but if crypto falls when crisis over it will not look good for crypto so I hope crypto stay stable.

I have heard about the Chernobyl incident and I haven't watched series yet but I will watch soon. As for bio-attack, we are not sure yet let's hope it's not bio-attack.

they hid real number because they don"t wants their people fear it and to save there economy from dropping now they are making money while other countries in lockdown.

This conspiracy theory needs to be carefully managed on the social media, though it looks like China is taking advantage of early recovery from the pandemic. Everything points to the country, from the low level of the so called 'collateral damage', early resumption of trade/market and war against Donald Trump. I am avoiding every discussion in the line but I am looking at the opportunity the crypto space can take from the crisis to gain more adoption and have a high price at the next bull market.

It may not be a conspiracy but it can surely be a fuck-up while exploring about some sort of strategic advantage from bio-attacks. I don't think the Chinese are above these things. After the fuck-up, the spread issue has been real for them. They are a communist country along the lines of Soviet Russia. Haven't we all seen enough Chernobyl on Amazon Prime to see the parallels about "Everything is right here"? They have claimed all sort of things from the beginning and now they are declaring to the world that they are infection-free, by ignoring the cases that test positive but are asymptomatic.

If we talk about the data from China, I would say it is questionable because even South Korea (+125) --a country that has equal experience dealing with SARS 1.0-- reported more new infected patients than China (+79). https://www.worldometers.info/coronavirus/

However, It doesn't mean it is some kind of conspiracy. More likely because they just didn't do enough testing.

He's just using the Chinese as a political tool. It's how conservative hawks build popular support, by fabricating foreign enemies the population needs to be protected from.

A new study actually suggests the corona virus may not have originated in China: https://www.scmp.com/news/china/science/article/3077442/coronavirus-pathogen-could-have-been-spreading-humans-decades

China is really so suspicious, how come that their economy and stock market is not that affected if the virus originates from them? It is more likely that China planned this happenings around the world, if you're updated, you'll see that the number of recoveries in their country is greater than the cases as of now.

We are not directly blaming China for this virus, but if they have already created the vaccine, they should immediately make an announcement and inform all of the people around the world. It is not impossible for other people to have a prejudice against China if they are still not giving us some information how they can manage this Covid-19 virus in their country.  


I don't believe with that, If you heard the news that the China built an emergency hospital in just 10 days, how is it even possible if China government wasn't handling the situation properly? Maybe that depends on the hospital or the attitude of the healthcare providers who handled them inside the hospital that's why he made the conclusion about their government not doing anything to help is countrymen. The 645,000-square-foot makeshift medical facility is not that easy to build but due to China's effective response to the outbreak, they made a way. The only thing here is that the China didn't inform us how they recovered a lot of patients immediately.

It seems to me that there is some truth in this - China is hiding that this is their doing. After all, China because of the coronavirus sued $ 20 trillion law firm Buzz Photos. According to them, the virus was developed and released from the Institute of Virology in Wuhan.

China has suffered the most it will take some time for its economy to be sown China will never be able to sell their stock at a good price I believe that this coronavirus originated in China. But they are hiding everything They will be the most affected if this is disclosed All countries of the world will stop the diplomatic trade with them because China will never be able to subsidize the damage caused by this virus in every country.

I guess China want privacy as much as we want to have privacy as well. Not providing the information is their choice though besides providing the numbers of death are just going to make their people panic and that won't help them.  Their economy still run good base on reports whether this information is true or not, we may never really knew but there are news coming out the Chinese are buying stocks in US and EU.

China is really good at manipulating their economy because most of them value money over everything and they prioritize their financial aspects in their lives. It is impossible that the virus originated from them and still their economy didn't have any changes and is still stable. It seems suspicious that China already had the vaccine because right now, the number of people recovering in their country is still increasing and the number of cases are stable and decreasing. Somehow, it is too obvious that most of our products and goods came from them and they are the no.1 sources of our food, medicines, and etc., that;s why they don't experience market crash. It is more likely that this Covid-19 is a China's plan so that they will affect the economy of US which is their no. 1 competitor in many aspects.

Service, hotel, restaurants, cafe, travel business is now on a brink of extinction. I'm thinking China takes time to pull out the stocks at good prices.

This is all just Chinese propaganda as the savior of the world from covid-19. Repeated reports about China's contribution to WHO and China's role as a global commander in dealing with a pandemic corona.

China precisely Xi Jing Ping really controls the media, to voice the news of justification, not the truth. So there is no news that leads to China's degradation to overcome corona. In addition to the interests of China, President Xi Jing Ping also wants his prestige to remain above the present condition even some vocal officials who voiced China's inability to cope with corona were immediately fired and also replaced by his position in the party.

Xi also silenced and imprisoned his critics, including a real estate tycoon and previously one of the richest and most powerful people in China for publishing articles describing Xi as an emperor who had no clothes and was like a clown.

Many oppositions opposed Xi's policies but were always successfully removed, many internal parties began to doubt the credibility of Xi's policy and operations strategy so that the CCP's political elite movement emerged to depose Xi. The mistrust that arises in one's own environment is more dangerous to destroy Xi from within than an enemy that is clearly categorized as anti-China.

great question and geat poll too  .  im also curious on this one and i beieve that is what others are feeling thru right now   .

 my suspection came after reading a blog that states virus were planned before and my suspection became worst when i heard that china was now recovered while others are not   . that is only what i feel , dont take me seriously guys  but if its been planned china cant still do anything much to grow thier economy because lockdowns on other country is still up   .   no stocks can go outside

I will not be surprised if the Chinese government are doing this kind of scenario as I can see that they are doing this to protect their economy but on the other hand it is very unfair also to other governments who not doing something like this. But I am surprised with regards to the numbers because losing 1.1 million users in just a month is a bit too much and 15 million users all together is a huge number if we are going to convert it as an affected persons with covid-19 virus.

But still this data is not yet accurate as this data is base only to cellphone carriers who are losing their users because there are many scenarios why it is happening like the Chinese government banned the use of cellphone in that area due to lock down policies and etc.

I also think that there is something odd about this corona virus, because now it is increasingly seen that China has benefited
from such conditions this. Their economy is still stable, even they sell medical equipment related to the corona virus to several
countries. And very fast country China is recovering from the corona virus tragedy. This is just my hunch without proof, so it is
not certain that China is involved in this matter.

Most likely, chinese government is underreporting the total deaths and overestimating the recoveries, but is unlikely that they created the virus, or for that matter that they can save their economy of its aftermath
They are just trying to save face
Chinese gov's geopolitical planning relies in china being ''cheaper'' than the western countries at least 20 years more, if Europe and the USA lose purchase power China is among the first losers, in fact, they likely will devalue the yuan as USA and Europe's monetary stimulus hit the markets

This also keep creating anxiety in my mind as to whether China would be able to take the life of there citizens because of a selfish interest or goal. Whatever the case will be, I believe it will soon be in the public domain for everybody to see.

Even if they are hiding the real number, they are probably doing it so that people would still buy stuff from china and not because they created it. People keep thinking that china (even if they are bad government with a dictator) could release something that would hurt themselves, they are evil but they are not idiots, if they wanted to release a virus to the world they would start with other nations first and help them out.

What they are doing with these test kits they are sending for example is a prime example of them trying to get people to use Chinese stuff again, would you buy an Chinese knock off right now? Any product? However everyone would want test kits, they would want protective equipment as well, so they are trying to keep that "here buy these now, keep buying other stuff later" thing going.

Well, it's from China, but it doesn't mean that they purposely made it. Biological weapons are banned since the 70's simply because you can't make friends with a disease with no brain. It will attack anyone with no exception.

This pandemic/outbreak was predicted a long time ago. People just don't learn:

Chiu et al. (2003) https://sci-hub.tw/10.1002/gps.1003

Guess what, now SARS 2.0 wreak havoc in many countries.

China is the producer of many stuff, so they need customers to sell their products. At this moment, they will severely get hit in terms of economy, just like any other big producers.

I also think coronavirus wasn't made in China if we look last 20-year chart we can have been affected by at least 14 virus so it's clear this might be another outbreak like those and if we look at history we can see every century like 1820,1920 was also affected by virus. As for China controlling people, I saw one video that they were acting like they where on a war and they didn't let any single affected people leave from lockdown or affected area and they really managed to contain it and they hid real number because they didn't want their economy collapse because of fear of this virus.

With not much else to do, I watched a Youtube video documenting life in China lately and it seems pretty obvious their government is in the business of information control--they all are, but the extent seemed to be like communist Russia or N. Korea.  Not surprising, and I pretty much figured it was like that in China.  So as far as what they're hiding from the world, it could be anything.

I don't think China manufactured this strain of coronavirus, however.  Their motivation for doing so would be iffy at best, and I would suggest that viral outbreaks can start anywhere.  This time it just happened to be China. 

And by the way, it drives me up a wall whenever Trump refers to coronavirus as "the Chinese virus".  If he knows something the rest of us don't, he should just spit it out.  It puts unnecessary blame on a country that most likely didn't intend to be ground zero for the outbreak.

When virus spread in Wuhan China didn't let reporters to new real situation and sadly because of their serious work on lockdown they have already recovered fast and since they hide the real number of dead people really didn't take it seriously and many people didn't think that it will attack them as well. if we have prepared when it attack Wuhan maybe the current situation would be different. And right now many conspiracy theories going on one person said coronavirus is a normal virus and people who have died because they have other diseases and bad immune system don't know which one is true.

Given the fact that they've hide the truth about a virus outbreak in Wuhan. Is more enough reason to suspect them about hiding the real death toll in mainland and other states.
In fact trump said in his statements that "China is hiding the real numbers" in my opinion their only doing this to save themselves and their economy and not for the people.

The chinese government is really afraid to show the full details about the real reason how the virus created and spreads all over the world because everyone will put the blame on the chinese people. But we should not care about it because all we need to do is to take care of ourselves and support all of front liners to cure the virus.

I think all this is not excessive, everyone is starting to have prejudice against China.

China will do anything to save their faces. Oh no, I was reminded of a video of a young man from Wuhan who revealed how bad the China government was in handling the situation when the virus began to spread.

Some information and experts say that China created the corona virus (Covid-19). And they also hide orginal number of dead people. How many people dead in covid-19, they are not publish exactly? I think that they are also doing it to save their economic condition.   

I am not sure what is written on the chart, is it number of data user or amount of data used?

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Possibly they can hide the actual numbers but they can't hide if millions of people are missing from China so they are good in treating their corona pateints since they already found medicines before spreading it to community.

Yes they're making money from this crisis but main problem they're equipment is bad quality i don't know if because of that how many people will die

yes i don't like Chinese products because they don't last at all

We can't trust anything China says, Santa Claus isn't real. Any information is almost impossible to verify and we can't count on them to be transparent. They try to save their face, see how currently they try to look like the model to follow in managing the crisis, while they lied to us before, lol
Everything else giving a bad image of the country, you can see the Chinese dictatorship censoring the media.

Now what they need is the economy to pick up, the factories to start working again, for people to go back to work. And if they need to lie to the world to make it happen they won't hesitate



What China is hiding from us is surely the same reason, trying to save the face to look like the good boy


Not working equipment by the way. Spain is forced to order again in extreme urgency.
Well, China products are usually shit and it doesn't change

Quality data out of China has always being an issue even with their GDP because of most the information there is centrally controlled. I don't want to argue about the number of mortality because those that are gone are gone, what we need now is a permanent cure for the drug, there are a lot of politics going on now. I get the big corporation wants to profit from the pandemics, if indeed the Choroquine drug works then this is not fear  to the masses. I have read and seen videos of those that are treated with Cloroquine and the other drug and they get well.

It is really confusing and hard to understand which one is true we will have to wait for the truth to be revel but will we able to find the real story about what happened? I dought it

I don't understand most of that picture since it is Chinese but I am also starting to be curious how well the Chinese handled the situation in their country. If you will be looking at this list, you could see how China has a lot of people recovered from the virus. Despite them being the origin, the USA and Italy are now topping the list with the most cases. And then Spain buys medical equipment worth 432 million euros from China.

well it's hard to say but it's really confusing since China are recovering very fast and they're stock market still good and other are collapsing

As many people think coronavirus is created by China and they did to crush other economy but I don't think that's what they did but some information came to light that gives us some dought about China's action. as far as we know death in China is a total of 3800+ but is it a real number? Did they hide the real numbers to protect their economy? what those pictures tell us!