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Topic: What Cointerra and HashFast have in common? (Read 3899 times)

legendary
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November 01, 2013, 09:01:42 PM
#21
Both making lots of money and selling miner's tools. Those that bought the tools cant ROI Smiley
sr. member
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November 01, 2013, 08:04:40 PM
#20


 In any case, Cointerra's chips won't be here for another two months, at best.


To summarize for the TL;DR crowd:

HashFast - chips done next week

Cointerra - hasn't even taped out yet


DERP!!
sr. member
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Hello !

There is any chance that the BTC price will raise over (let's say) $500 ?


Wrong place to ask, but my answer is Yes!!
hero member
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'All that glitters is not gold'
Hello !

There is any chance that the BTC price will raise over (let's say) $500 ?
hero member
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I met Amy of Hashfast at the Last bitcoin Sunnyvale Meeting and believe them to be legitimate.  I am eagerly awaiting pics of the hardware boards and chips though!!!!!

It is not that they aren't real.  It is that they are selling overpriced shovels to suckers.  But if the prices were reduced, more people would just buy them anyway taking up the network even further.
sr. member
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They are both making lots of profit and those that buy their products are making loses instead.
sr. member
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i don't like the looks of those websites so no dice from me
legendary
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I met Amy of Hashfast at the Last bitcoin Sunnyvale Meeting and believe them to be legitimate.  I am eagerly awaiting pics of the hardware boards and chips though!!!!!

I don't want to wait. I want pics of the existing hardware now!(PCBs and other stuff)
legendary
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HoneybadgerOfMoney.com Weed4bitcoin.com
I met Amy of Hashfast at the Last bitcoin Sunnyvale Meeting and believe them to be legitimate.  I am eagerly awaiting pics of the hardware boards and chips though!!!!!
legendary
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Both will have very unhappy customers clamoring for refunds.
full member
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Both are selling SHA256 ASIC.
sr. member
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They are both making money from pre-orders Smiley
legendary
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October 15, 2013, 05:36:43 PM
#9
Both are selling first gen gear and have no other hardware out under their respective organizations  Wink

HashFast has completed logical and physical design, paid their NRE, taped-out a very complex chip in record-breaking time (over a month ago), and expects their TMSC wafers to be done next week.

Cointerra might have done some of those things, but we don't know.  In any case, Cointerra's chips won't be here for another two months, at best.


To summarize for the TL;DR crowd:

HashFast - chips done next week

Cointerra - hasn't even taped out yet


Can't wait for chips!
full member
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Merit: 100
HashFast Community Liaison
October 15, 2013, 03:20:37 PM
#8
Both are selling first gen gear and have no other hardware out under their respective organizations  Wink

HashFast has completed logical and physical design, paid their NRE, taped-out a very complex chip in record-breaking time (over a month ago), and expects their TMSC wafers to be done next week.

Cointerra might have done some of those things, but we don't know.  In any case, Cointerra's chips won't be here for another two months, at best.


To summarize for the TL;DR crowd:

HashFast - chips done next week

Cointerra - hasn't even taped out yet
sr. member
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October 15, 2013, 12:00:56 PM
#7
Both are selling first gen gear and have no other hardware out under their respective organizations  Wink
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HashFast Community Liaison
October 12, 2013, 01:34:07 AM
#6
Thank you for you interest in HashFast!

Here are some facts that distinguish HashFast from the competition:

1.  HashFast taped out over a month ago.  The other guys missed their "first week of October" deadline, and may not have even paid the NRE for their chip yet.

2.  HashFast's physical design partner, Uniquify, has dozens of 28 nm designs under its belt.  The other guy's?  Not so much.

3.  HashFast's physical design partner, Uniquify, sent out a press release annoucing their partnership with us.  The other guy's?  Not so much.

[ Source:  http://www.uniquify.com/uniquify-hashfast-ink-agreement-to-produce-asics-to-increase-hashing-speed-for-bitcoin-miners/ ]

4.  HashFast's co-founders, Simon and Eduardo, have run a previous high-tech start-up successfully.  The other guy?  Not so much.

5.  HashFast's foundry of choice, TSMC, is the largest and most advanced 28 nm fabrication facility in the world.  The other guys' fab?  Not so much.

6.  HashFast has ensured its customers have an excellent chance of seeing a positive ROI by already placing orders for wafers of MPP chips.  TOG? NSM.

7.  HashFast customers will receive their products in Oct/Nov/Dec, before difficulty has been driven up by other upcoming ASICs.  TOG?  NSM.


If you would like to know more about exactly what separates HashFast from the competition please ask here, in our other threads, or via private message.

Best,

-HF_CL
full member
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October 10, 2013, 07:56:55 AM
#5
Hello !

Did anyone observed these ?

- both accept only BTC or payment by wire  Why?  Huh
- both announced  TH/s output miners
- both announced  less than 1 W/GH/s performance
- both named their chip  "Gold":  GoldStrike1 ASIC Chips (cointerra) and  Golden Nonce (GN) 28nm ASIC chip (hashfast)  Cheesy  Cheesy  Cheesy  Cheesy
- both use "state-of-the-art" liquid cooling system
- the websites look the same (do a mock purchase from both and see)    Huh

Any comment is welcomed !

They both sell ASIC Tongue
qwk
donator
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Shitcoin Minimalist
September 27, 2013, 03:23:14 PM
#4
- both accept only BTC or payment by wire
Probably they need a reliable funding for their enterprises.

- both announced  TH/s output miners
Wouldn't make too much sense to announce a Megahasher right now.

- both announced  less than 1 W/GH/s performance
Both are working on a 28nm chip. The chips do the same task.
Almost identical specs are to be expected under those circumstances.

- both named their chip  "Gold"
Beats me. Probably a coincidence.

- both use "state-of-the-art" liquid cooling system
That's right. For a densely packed chip at high frequencies that's the best you can do.
It's probably not the best choice for consumer hardware, where the last bit of performance isn't really necessary, but when it comes to mining, where 10% or 20% better performance really make a difference, that's a wise choice.


- the websites look the same (do a mock purchase from both and see)
Both use the WooCommerce plugin for WordPress. Hmmm. According to Wikipedia, this is one of the most popular WordPress plugins and has been downloaded over a million times.

Nothing to see here.
hero member
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'All that glitters is not gold'
September 27, 2013, 03:06:04 PM
#3
Hello!

I saw many people on this forum that actualy show a great level of confidence regarding both Cointerra and HashFast.
My intention wasn't to mock any ASIC producers .
My intention was to gather as much data we can to help the community.
When people put the money and the hopes on the game at least they deserve  to know the rules of the game.
member
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September 27, 2013, 01:18:10 PM
#2
I don't think anyone here was dumb enough to think that those companies were legit.
hero member
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Merit: 1000
'All that glitters is not gold'
September 27, 2013, 12:08:03 PM
#1
Hello !

Did anyone observed these ?

- both accept only BTC or payment by wire  Why?  Huh
- both announced  TH/s output miners
- both announced  less than 1 W/GH/s performance
- both named their chip  "Gold":  GoldStrike1 ASIC Chips (cointerra) and  Golden Nonce (GN) 28nm ASIC chip (hashfast)  Cheesy  Cheesy  Cheesy  Cheesy
- both use "state-of-the-art" liquid cooling system
- the websites look the same (do a mock purchase from both and see)    Huh

Any comment is welcomed !
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