Topic: What do you mean by China is in lock down? (Read 135 times)

From the statement of someone whom I just happened to watch his video how China responded to the virus.

They can't literally go out of their homes, condos or units. There will be aid coming from the government, everything that they need - food, hygienic products, etc.

In that response, the virus can't be transmitted to any possible carrier which the virus just continued living through transfer.

The lockdown in China means the declaration of the closure of any public area nobody should be ready to communicate with anyone this is often finished an extended time. But now there's no lockdown in China everything has been opened China has taken control of their situation tons.

fully totally and absolutely agree with every point cnut just said.

just to add a note to the isolation
knowing a contagion can linger with a person for 2-3 weeks. means they cannot just isolate the day before hospitals reach 'code black' (over occupancy). to stem the surge needs to happen weeks before to curb it from even getting close to over occupancy of hospitals in the following fortnight/month

there is a bit of cat and mouse game going on where if they relax it too soon when there are still thousands of contagious people just near triples a mass of thousands in a week. then triples again the following week. meaning 10k a week=30k=90k 2weeks later.
where as getting it to 50=150=450 2weeks later=1350=4050=12150=36450=109k after 7 weeks.
which makes a difference of reimplementing it in 2 weeks or 7 weeks, just by getting numbers down low before relaxing

next is to keep social distancing active even without 'lockdown' this could bring numbers down to a multiple of 2
so 50=100=200=400=800=1600=3200=6400=12800=25600=51200=102k after 11 weeks

and also contact monitoring to find those who an infected person came into contact with and fully isolating them. to try getting it to a 1.3 contagion which would take 30 weeks to get to 100k

so you can now see why its important to do things right to make the difference between a 2week to 2nd lockdown or 30 week

They (we) want the spread of the virus to slow to manageable levels, to 'flatten the curve' so that the number of new cases doesn't continue to grow exponentially, massively overwhelming the healthcare system and causing huge numbers of otherwise avoidable deaths. That's it, really. In the absence of a vaccine, the best we can do is to slow the spread so that those who can be saved are saved. Lives are worth more than dollars.
Of course if governments had been a bit more pro-active and implemented lockdowns much earlier, the economic hit and the healthcare hit would both have been much lower - but that's a different argument.

people can find a new job more easily than finding a new lung or a resurrection pill of immortality.

as long as people have food in their belly and a roof over their head and breath in their lungs, lifestyle/social impacts come second.

anyway
china got their new cases down to ~30.. then it grew to 60, and now over 90.. they better get that controlled and lockdown the contacts monitored or they are in for another wave within weeks/months.

ei expect multiple waves to be the norm. but how fast they limit the contact changes how soon they have to lockdown again to ensure it doesnt get to numbers to swamp the healthcare systems

The Chinese lockdown was a hit to the global economy.
It was a start of this crisis, now that Europe and the US is overgoing the same situation you are going to see a greater impact. We exchanged public health with an economic damage.

The shootings are in Philippines, but China did enforce their lockdowns in the designated areas (and people there know not to disobey the State...). Now that things are over, even Wuhan has reopened to the rest of the country while most of the world enters lockdown (or spread the virus by not locking).

China's current worry now is getting the virus from abroad, so they are being strict with people coming from other countries. But is essentially over and have restarted production and business activities. They spent 3 months living indoors.

During restrictions people could go out only to buy food or medicine, 1 person per household using mask and gloves. The State supplied food in some cases.

What will happen is that those countries that contain the virus, will reopen activities from the inside, probably keeping borders closed or forcing people coming from abroad into forced isolation (my country is doing that).

But right now, at least for internal activity, its over in China.

Are there any peer reviewed studies that show that China is or isn't in lockdown?

china did not do a marshal law everyone must stay home or be shot if spotted on the streets.
people could still do daily exercise and get food from grocery stores. and for essential workers like the food manufacturing/supplying/selling/distributing and healthcare. still occurred

but what china did do that other countries failed. is that china when they found someone testing positive. they contact traced people who can near that infected person within the last week or 2. and isolated them fully with a 'dont go out, well bring food and meds to you policy'

which ensured the virus did not broadly multiply by 2.6 people multiple every week.
that how china go it under control.

other countries should learn from that.
i have seen other countries that repatriate people home. and then just let those people go about their life unmonitored unrestricted free to spread it to the broad populous of the area

You mean no business/factory is operating there anymore? If not, who is running the businesses, the people or robots?
Or what do you mean by "let's try China's lockdown"? Do you want your governments to be authoritarian/dictatorial, communist, to own everything, etc? What exactly do the supporters of Chinese style lockdown (unfortunately, I don't know what the country's lockdown style is) want?