Topic: What do you need merits for? (Read 1205 times)

Of course, outside of this website, merits have no value. Just like beyond bitcointalk limits, rank, trust, activity no value. But these factors are relevant to forum and community members. We come to bitcointalk and live by it`s rules (or violate them). There`re special laws, so the values are also peculiar, they are confessed only by the participants of this website. Mostly people hunt for merits because of money. But this isn`t the only reason. Many participants thus self-actualize and self-affirm. Merit performs the function of like, approval or consent. And for many people, it`s a way to raise self-esteem.

agree, if you're an avid reader/poster and you want to make things cool, avatar is dawey. They stick to the mentality of you're a "bounty hunter if you want merits", people deserves to rank up too even they're just here for educational purposes. 

Also, merits symbolize the good things you've done here. If you have some, then the community will see you as one of the people who strive hard and dig some ideas to gain merits like doing some extraordinary, informative and interesting topics.


this will explain a lot, it'll be your motivation to work hard and you'll be the inspiration of some aspiring quality posters.

Merits are important for those people who value it and to those people who respect this forum.. Yes merit is useless outside the forum but neither the forum care for the rules in the outside world. This forum has set its own rules and its own merit system and for us beginners merits is a prize or a trophy that gets us motivated each day to make and create more meaningful topics that will help our fellow users and this forum..

For me here is my reason why merit is important:
1. Merits give me an awesome feeling of motivation the merit in me that has been provided by those merit giver makes me more inspire to create more useful topics and useful replies.
2. (Real Fact) Merits is I need to get ranked up high so I can be able to use signatures and has more stakes in signature bounties
3. Merits shows how active and useful you are in the forum. This shows that you don't make only this forum for spam bounties but you are contributing even a little in the forum.
4. Merits is also a "kodus" that you might give to someone that contributed a meaningful topic or replies in the forum
5. Merits decreases the spambies and creates more meaningful threads and replies in this forum
6. Merit is far more everything that completes your profile !

That are some of my major reasons why merits is important so don't think that merit is useless merit is one of the biggest changes that this forum has created and it helps a lot !

Okay, it really matters.

Have made my modest contribution to this noble cause 

Definitely and if you always follow a thread like that then definitely you will only get annoyed. There are some of the users here that are not fan of reading that will go start a thread without searching if anyone here in the forum has started the thread already. They just want to get sympathy from others who did not also get merits.

And? they can't get merits for they will just be ignore with the merit source for they are considered as spammer and always do complaining instead of helping other users.

merits are prize for your posts . merits need for rank up and when you see a high merit member naturally you can trust him easily than newbie ...

Still, should it matter for someone who does not have services to offer, especially if you do not plan to put links on your signature?


That could only work if the girl knows what bitcoin/cryptocurrency is. If she has no clue what it is, I am not sure it will work?


Oh. Thanks. I did not know that you can sell merits for bitcoin.

It is for ranking up purposes ofcourse. As we continue to rank up,  the more opportunity to gain right?  Admit it or not that's the main point why we need those merits.

Probably buying in 1 merit just to rank up junior member is not hard to find, but that is a risk to the merit sender once they have caught on MOD for sure there is a punishment to them(red tagged). I've lucky that I already rank up on this rank before the merit system was implemented and until now it is hard for me to hunt even a single merit and stuck up on this rank, but I don't mind it as long as I can help this community by sharing my thought to them using my genuine post even I'm not good in English.

They don't mean anything in the real world? Merits get you laid. Scientific fact. There's a reason people call them pussy points. Next time you're trying to impress a lady whip out your phone and show her your merit page. Instant aphrodisiac. Though maybe it depends on how many you have. One or two probably isn't impressive but when you're one of the merit big boys like me I have to beat women off me. It's a gift and a curse.


You can. People sell merits and it'll probably become big business. Most people will probably just cough up for Copper Membership rather than buy the one merit to become Junior though, but to become higher ranks merit will become increasingly harder to get and more valuable/costly.

A higher ranked account usually gets paid more in many signature campaigns. So getting merit could add up to earning more bitcoin. Also, if someone is an account farmer, they can sell higher ranked accounts for more BTC.

To be honest, I do not quite understand as well. I am grateful for the merits that were given to me, but I genuinely do not understand why so many people are hung up on getting them. They said it was for the signature campaigns, but I guess if you do not have services to offer and are just here to learn cryptocurrency and communicate with other crypto users then it should not matter much? After all, it is not like we can trade them for bitcoins, right?

Money?

For me merits are an indicator that your posts didn`t go unnoticed. If you receive a merit, then you have been heard, your comments have been useful, interesting and relevant. I believe that all forum participants need to grow above themselves, learn new information and share it with others. If a person has reached a hero or a legendary rank through activity, it doesn`t give him the right to relax and not make efforts to write quality posts. We all have to continuously develop and improve. And merits are a great incentive. They encourage the forum participants to try to write more qualified posts, go ahead and become better, rather than being content with the result already achieved.

I'm still struggling to understand the purpose behind starting this thread. :/
For a moment, I thought maybe it is an attempt to get some merits, but then I realize how come a person can get merits by complaining about something that he is doing himself at the exact same time? :/

I need merits to wear my awesome wolf avatar.
In about 1-2 years i'm sure i'll win this battle  

Yup you are suffering from the "Why I dont get merit" disease. You should stop thinking of merit and learn to be helpful and informative in your posts if you wish to get any merits. Besides it will also depend on the merit source who might just ignore your post or may have run out of merits.

Which is why as a new younger member you should read the threads more than you what you write.

The sole importance of bitcointalk forum being bounties - you can forget about getting merited. If you are not willing to post anything constructive then you may just remain junior member forever since it wont hamper your "shitdrop claiming".

Wow thanks Sir for your merits,I didn't expected that would get a lots of merits. Thanks for your apreciate and I will learn more to make useful post/thread and sure will learn my english too..

Nope, it  is not, merits cannot be considered as a measurement for knowing who is smart or not because old members who have higher ranks namely Sr. Members, Hero Members, and Legendary members have all each have 250, 500, 1000 merits respectively but it doesn't make them any smarter than lower ranked members out there. Some high ranked members are just lucky they have a old account enough to go to that ranks with just the measurement of their activity. To test out what I am saying observe some Legendary members you will see some of them still do nonsense post up to this time.

The people that are desperate for merit are the ones that don't browse any other section on the forum other than the altcoin bounties section. You might as well be preaching to the choir, as I doubt any of these cretins even know the meta section exists. Maybe there should be a forced notification sent to all Jr. and Newbie members forcing them to read a FAQ

LOL are you going gift as Christmas gift with your merits.

I believe it has been explained many times in the various thread on this forum. If you believe there is any need of update or uncleared doubts then you can go head create a topic for it. Op must need to use the search bar here.

In the FILIPINO CULTURE, every Christmas Season there is the word "PATAWAD" which means "sorry" but int times such as this  a deeper meaning has to be said and it is " better luck next time. "

(If you're curious about it, they usually say that everytime there are kids singing christmas melodies in night times, just to avoid giving gifts to them)

And that also implies to you mate Even if it's Christmas they don't seem like being used as a gift though.

Advance Merry Christmas To You!
(You're way too advance Mate, it's only August )

You can only earn merits on christmas only. Advance Merit Christmas to all of us.
Merits are required to rank up and every rank has different merit counts needed from member to legendary rank the same as activity points.

As I noticed people do not ask already how to get merits. Those ones who can't improve their English and the quality of posts simply moved to trading of merit. And if you doubt what for the most of users need it I will tell you - the first of all to rank up, ranked members are more respected and they earn more money on the forum by participation in different kind of campaigns or by selling different kinds of goods and services on the forum.

For me, I don't really care if someone or somebody give or will not give merit nor if I will ever get merited.  I don't think that is too easy to get and don't even know how to get it.  So, might as well just forget about it and continue as I am right now.  With my rank right now as Junior, I could still earn from bounties, from social media campaign and airdrops.  It is really like airdrops when it comes to income as a Junior, but what to do?  I'll just wait till I get that if somebody would give, rather than thinking of it over and over.

Indeed besides it is one of the variable that you need to rank up as well, this is for personal perspective by the way.

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You gonna end up having HIV positive soon  

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Absolutely!

I gave you 5 merits as a result of looking through your post history, and for your record of concise and meaningful posts. I think you are doing well, even though English is not your first language.

I think this is part of my "archive merits" initiative, but I've forgotten what the letters mean in my alphabet merits project.

Not really. A properly done report will be checked by moderators faster than a poorly written one. Taking time to write why you think a post is against rules would actually make the mods life easier. Dont make up such wrong assumptions of higher ranked users getting better treatment here. Then you are actually suffering from Inferiority Complex.

Highly paid? Maybe. The idea of high and low is relative and everyone has their opinion on this.
Advantages? Nothing that I can think of.

And if you are coming to this forum to get paid as the only thing then you need to find yourself a job, fast This forum is not your "workplace".

It's not exactly that. You don't need merits for anything (except leveling up), they are simply evidence of appreciation. If you produce works (posts, threads, content) that people appreciate, then you will be merited. Merit isn't something you strive to achieve, it's something that's given for your contributions, if it appears you are trying to contribute just to gain merit, then it's likely this will be recognized and you won't be merited.

Just work on producing high-quality content that helps the community grow, and you'll be rewarded when due.

For me I need merits to :
1. Increase my rank.
2. To see how well the post or thread I made because if I get merits it means my post might be a little useful if not i will try how to made it better.
3. For my happiness,when first time i got merits i very excited so i will try to get more some merits again..

Your observation is correct. It is worrisome how some members are desperate about merits, going at length even to break rules because of merits.

I want to believe that this is your concern, not that you do not know or understand what merit is all about. I share similar worry too.

I'm sorry, but what your saying from a moderation point of view is completely false. Moderators are presented with a queue that as no priority, or formatting to allow us to identify higher ranked accounts easier. The higher your account is has little bearing on how we handle your reports or you as a user if your breaking guidelines.

Plus, not everyone is interested in making money. So, your point about signature campaigns are moot. It's nice to earn from posting you would of done anyway, but a lot of the quality users here were here before signature campaigns were even mainstream.

Your points are quit special and very useful but the truth is that even you needs this high rank account. The high ranks account have upper hands here in the forum the moderators attends to them first before any other low rank. They are highly paid in signature campaigns many advantages attached to high rank account but we should not be do much desperate to go high rather we should work hard for it.

Yeah, it has nothing to do with the promise of pretty much free money. Nah, its fair enough that people want to be higher ranked for a status thing, but these people aren't usually the users that spam, and are willing to put an effort in the get to the higher ranks.

Honestly, though. I couldn't care less about your motives for wanting merit. As long as its not abusing the system. I don't really care if people are signing up to the forum for the sole purpose of making money, as long as they are a constructive member of the forum, and aren't spamming their way through the ranks.

Privilege it is. Make sure you use your privilege properly and not abuse it over time.

Of course you can disguise the "meme" as a mode of saying something new to forum. Then again most people in the forum don an avatar because of the signature campaign. Lets hope you are not among the "most" people of the forum.

"Small social game" - where did you get that from? Or is it another of the common made up words that you bounty spammers use in your day-to day lingo? Consider bitcointalk to a game, not a bad comparison. But in games its not the people around you who rank you up but you rank up yourself. So it was a game at one time but no longer. 

Honestly I want to say, whoever much encourage only for earn merit absolutely he want to earn money by joining signeture campaign. I mean people need merit for rank up.  Because signature campaign depend on rank. You can check this thread how many people here without paid signature include me. I give my honest opinion about it. Some reputed member's never joned signature campaigns but they don't care about merit. They did their best & automatically earn merit. Of course merit is a sign of reputation. Some time merit describe how reputed member is. Because there is no way earn merit for spammer, unless merit abuse.



I am not agree with you. Absolutely also you want upgrade rank for signeture. Because already you have joined signeture campaigns. It's my honest opinion about you. If you didn't joined signeture than may be I can believe your comment.

Actually I can say, somehow 95% user stay here for earning. It's not wrong, every one have right to earn. But I don't know why nobody want to accept it. True is always true. I am not excluding myself, even me I had ware signeture.

I, and others, want merit for rank up. Bitcointalk is like a small social, or online game, the higher rank you are, the happier you have, it is the self-satisfaction when you're proud of yourself. High rank is like high level game character, you will be admired and respected.

In my case, i reallt want to rank up and enjoy some privileges of it.  Especially having an avatar! 

Think of having a profile with a meme as an avatar!  Meme is life you know.  I really want to have a meme as my avatar hence I need to rank up, and ranking up needs merit.

I need them to make some of this stuff all the kids are talking about meritjuana, it's great it cures illnesses like shitpostidia, and accountfarmingitis.

The forum was greatly afflicted by both, some say it almost died; thankfully it's on the road to recovery. Though those diseases have left their mark on the forum and are still appearing, we are on the road to recovery.

It also makes you look cool when you can score some meritjuana on your own, using skills like reading, comprehending, and writing.

Merit is not needed because when you need it you can't live with it. I guess it's more of a want some in good way but mostly those who did it in good way are for Learning (helping also others in the forum) but others do it in filthy way and they throw away the L (loyalty) just for earning.

I agree with both of these suggestions.  I just wish we could make it happen.

Blah blah blah, garbled-English shitpost.

They'll deny this of course, but it's true.  It's going to become even more true as more accounts are created and those accounts are unable to earn enough merit to rank up past Jr. Member.

I need merits so that I can have sex with my alts, also I can use them to bribe theymos. How can you not know that?

Merit required for upgrade from rank. And the payment of signature campaign depends on forum rank. So to earn more money you have to earn more merit.

Merit is needed in order for newbies like you to post some garbage thread in Meta.

Merit must be removed so that these new users can't post garbage threads like these . Do something please. Do something 

One I keep seeing is - ‘The rich get richer’

I'm normally against imposing too many restrictions, but honestly I think the pros greatly outweigh the cons on this one. Most of the spam is coming from low ranked members posting garbage, and they don't really care whether they get reported, banned or whatever because its easy to just make another account, and continue spamming. Let's not mention that these types of users already have an alt army that they abuse bounties with.

This is the thing. Merit doesn't actually effect anyone's ability to merely post or discuss things here (you know, what this forum is actually for). It only effects your ability to earn and that's why people are annoyed. The people who open threads complaining about merit are the users who have only joined this forum in the first place just because they were told you could earn money easily here. Now it's not that simple or easy. Merit doesn't stop them shitposting though and there are new ICO campaigns that pop up every month that are happy to pay them, they just won't ever rise through the ranks and will remain indefinite Juniors until they up their posting game. I think we should even go further and remove signatures from Juniors or at least require some token amount of merit to become one. That would really put a spanner in the works of the worst sorts of posters because they wouldn't even be able to earn anything all then until they've at least done something to get the merit.

1) use search facility
2) punch yourself in the face for being a useless poster
3) moan about merits again
4) life is so unfair

Depending on your intentions for the forum, you might not need merit. A few users are here just to discuss about Bitcoin, and related technology, and don't need merit per say. Most users will want merit to join signature campaigns though.

Shows you to be a perfect newbie in the forum who does not read stickies and older threads before making a new one. Welcome to the forum's Meta section.

Experts, LMAO. I got more than 100 merits earned and do I look like an expert in crypto/cryptography? Hell no.

To some extent. It helps to recognize who makes good comments than those who shitpost to rank up.

People need merits to rank up.

You missed it totally since you created this thread which was pointless.

What do you need merits for?

For the same reason Morgan Freeman starred in London Has Fallen:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MzJVH6OdqWo




Not really. It's a system to reward posts that are deemed useful or meritorious and to distinguish a shitposter from the rest and prevent them from abusing the ranking system by contributing little to nothing here over multiple alt accounts. There's a huge problem here of people making very low-quality contributions just to farm accounts to use for claiming bounties. The merit system is a way to try curb this.


I'm not an expert in cryptography, however, I am one of the most merited users here (not tying to suck my own dick). I got most of my merits in Meta from helping out and proposing solutions to the many issues here. Merits are not an indicator of how trustworthy you are either.


Ranks on this forum mean nothing elsewhere as well, just as Reddit karma means nothing here either. Merits are a system for this forum not any other.


I reckon you already know the answer to this, but merits aren't their true goal. Merits are actually in the way of achieving what they came here to do and that is simply to earn money. To earn more money you need a higher ranked account to get a bigger signature. To do that you need merits. That's why they're desperate for them.


There are bigger issues here than the people creating threads about merits, but practice what you preach.

Merit is needed for

1) Ranking up : A member needs merits to rank up now in addition to activity points.

2) Rewarding users making quality posts : The forum needs merit system so as to reward users making quality posts. This distinguishes them from members who are here to spam.

The Irony is strong here

I see the way you posted garbage in Meta to complain about garbage in Meta...

You haven't missed anything, in fact, you already said the good points there and foremost you also given a statement that is relatively done by the others.

You can't force them to live a life just like yours.
With their little brain as a gold fish, I think there would be some conflicts on their heads if you try to discuss it thoroughly and clearly that Merits should stay away from the likes of them.

This Merits have suck it all, it destroyed everything really, especially the minds of every individual here.

Indeed. But, we have the fact that it wasnt still enough.

Uhh, they're needed to rank up? Merits themselves are really not an indicator of how trustworthy someone is. I'd say the Trust system fulfilles that role much better.

Because they want to rank up, obviously.

As far as I can see, system of merits here is some sort of reputation. It serves to distinguish experts in cryptography from inexperienced users, that is quite useful inside the forum, since we know how much we can trust a certain user. And of course, merits can serve as a moral encouragement for the help given to others.

And, consequently, they mean nothing if we got them in a different (undeserved) way. In addition, outside this website, these merits don't mean anything and can not be used at all. So, why do so many users try to get them from the very beginning of their registration, as if this is their main goal on the forum? It seemed to me that merits should be just a tool, not an ultimate purpose.

Numerous daily posts like "How to get merits", thousands of similar responses to posts only worsen the state of the community and do not do any good, but kill communication, don't they? Or, maybe, I've missed something?