Topic: What do you think about Hitler? (Read 590 times)

He was a strong person and a good leader, but he made a lot of mistakes,his policy was too cruel,he killed millions of people.Noone can decide who deserves to live and who doesn't.

I don't know that much about Hitler, but, by all accounts, it seems like he was a great leader. I don't mean great in that he did good things, but he united so many people in a cause. It's hard for me to think of another modern leader who has had so much impact on the world. I'm sure it's not the best comparison, but I am watching the TV show The Handmaid's Tale right now and maybe there are some similarities. The Handmaid's Tale also deals with a totalitarian society. When the society was conceived, there were some good motives and goals. I'm sure that's the case with Hitler too. He had some good ideas and intentions, but some of them were horrible and in the end it was pretty hard to see any good that came from his leadership. Regardless of the horrible things that he did, it's certainly worth studying how he was able to pull off what he did on such a huge scale.

“Mein Kampf” is a mix of autobiography and manifesto that Hitler began writing during a rather comfortable prison stay after his failed putsch of 1923. It was first published in two volumes in 1925 and 1926. The title means “My Struggle”, and Hitler certainly struggled with syntax, grammar and style. One contemporary reviewer ridiculed it as “Mein Krampf” (My Cramp). Much of it is dull or incomprehensible today. Some phrases demand parody: “Columbus’s eggs lie around by the hundreds of thousands, but Columbuses are met with less frequently.”

Benjamin Netanyahu is same as Hitler, but Benjamin is smarter then hitler, look what hes doing and how he expands his useless country called Israel with 0 costs.

You are right. The history books would have been different. But, what if the NAZI's had won and they just normalized the extermination of all non Aryans? I believe that is ultimately what they wanted.

After reading his biography and watching lots of others documentary about WW2, i totally started thinking different about Hitler than i use to.Hilter had a good mission but he chose a bad path and bad company, i  guess. He can also be taken as a good example of try try until you die, by the way😂😂

I think he was a powerful leader with a powerful army bent on destruction, fueled by ambition, hunger for
more power and his ideology and own beliefs. But what he did to the innocents was far worse than imaginable.
The persecution of the Jews and the Genocide that came of it was dark and painful. Hitler will always be remembered
as an evil dictator because he undeniably was malevolent. 

I think the victors write, create and change the history books. We CANNOT know what really happened or the exact timelines/events. World war 1, economic collapse, bankers, all these things contributed to putting things in motion. Atrocities were on both sides, but history is written as propaganda of the victors, even if the events represented are real, it should surprise no one if they are greatly exaggerated and covered in bias.

This is the game of elites and bankers.. to pit poor people against each other everywhere. Let us leave this nonsense in the past and #exitfiat (fiat is TENDER FOR LAW, Legalese the language used for deception in the Babylonian Cult of the Private "Law Society")

If Hitler had won, we wouldn't have the corrupt banking Ponzi that we have today, a Ponzi that is killing millions, and stealing their wealth.

In addition, Hitler wouldn't have been able to hold it in the face of the desires for freedom around the world. He would have failed in the long run.

If Hitler had won, the result would have been better for the world in the long run. Of course, since it didn't happen that way, who really knows what things would have been like?

I think he is a great ruler. But he did so many bad things.

I sometimes wonder: "Will humanity discriminate against Hitler?"
In ancient times Alexander the Great was famous for its devastating effects as his army overran.
In the medieval times Genghis Khan, he almost had the world he knew because he had a mighty army, good fight and extremely ... cruel.
In modern times there was Napoleon Bonaparte I, who was very famous for the art of war. i did not collect much information about him, but certainly he was not so gentle that new conquest power. so
Modern times have more Hitler, whom human beings call demon, blasphemous in all forms from the picture to the film, ... a dictator who heard the name spit on everyone . Are they really hateful?
In fact, Hitler was a better man and more noble than any of the above, he sacrificed his life for his ideal, even his private life. With an ideal that Germany is strong, growing and dominating the world. In fact, this is the wish of the majority of the military. In a certain sense, you can consider this as patriotism, ready to become a historical sinner for the country to grow.
So why is Hitler considered a historical criminal, the devil?

I think Hitler did some very bad things but a lot of this things is just propaganda from other side that is same evil as him dont be fool by those people ,thats same people that create Hitler but in some point they lost control over him and i think he was so evil and so intelegent at same time that he scrues up the zionists and bomb the England ,ww2 was a hell on earth and there is a lot of people belong Hitler that was responsible for that ..and one more thing not lot of people know that Hitler was a brave ww1 soldier he was promoted to the rank of Corporal, was wounded twice (in 1916 and 1918) and was awarded with several medals and irony is there is a story that at second time he got wounded he was found by british soldier Henry Tandey who spared his life

The history book would have been totally different if Germany and it's allies had won the second world. No one would have known about the Jews holocaust at all and they would have been very close to extinction.

You're sure you're pure Aryans. Adolf Hitler was not the world of White he was of pure Aryan race and he believed that those who are a little bit different not people , and biodegradable waste.

No matter the validity of his ideologies,  Hitler was responsible for the death of millions of people. So he's no hero

The Yugoslav partisans had a german holocaust, they exterminated the volksdeutscher in concetraction camps.
In my town, there was a neighbourhood called Neu Dorf (New Village on german), now it's Novo Selo (New Village on Croatian).
0 germans there today.

I'm pretty certain this is not the only case.
The germans suffered greatly afterwards.

I've seen letters from the partisans, saying things like, this german helped the anti-facist struggle and was never a member of the kulturbund only to receive a response from other partisans in higher positions, he's a german, it doesn't matter [*killed*].

A failed liberal arts student that decided to make his country a socialist one. But in terms of the Holocaust. He had a delusion that somehow all Jews had contributed to the loss of Germany in WW1 when it was just a select few (we all know who “those” Jews are). He caused an unforgivable amount of collateral damage (17 million fucking people) in his misguided quest to rid the world of those Jews and later expanded his blame-game horizons to include Poles, Slavs and Russians, Gypsies, Africans, homosexuals, disabled, and pretty much every other ethnicity/sexuality that he and millions of people, even in America and the rest of Europe including Germany, had considered to be inferior for a millennia. He was a person who capitalized on that hatred and forged it into a weapon that would bring havoc to the entire world.

I hope he escaped to Argentina. If he didn't he had to suicide or be captured by the Russians.

What do you think about Hitler?

I think he lived to be about 95, in Argentina.

I do not respect, and I have a few words on the topic of such "respect", unenlightened worship and mythologization. I apologize for the verbosity, but such a question is much easier to ask than to disentangle it and clearly explain its position with respect to it, rather than borrowing from those or other ideologists.
Hitler tried to destroy what he hated, what was worth it? Respect this does not deserve by any measure.

A lot of the Hollywood movies during the 1970s and 1980s also portrayed the Germans as Nazi sympathizers. There were widespread reports of hate-crimes against the Germans in countries such as the USA.

They've been indoctrinated.
Ofcourse they want to stay away from the subject..
What's their motivation to continue the discussion?

I lived in Germany for a while. The topic of the Nazis to the war and Hitler is usually not affected. It seems to me that they are ashamed of this part of the story and are trying to forget. If you start talking on this subject with any of the Germans then be sure to answer will be only out of courtesy and at the first opportunity they will steer the conversation into another direction.

He rose to power that proves he was above influential and very smart at it, I'm not surprised some people past and future would admire
some distinguishable qualities Hitler had. He was a leader after all, people favored him back then, maybe he had strong points but he
drove it to a point where it wasn't humane anymore and it turned unethical. His views on politics, religion and races were not the best
for all because he did after all sanctioned the Holocaust and thousands of innocent lives paid for it, that was a horror and a very painful
part of history. He turned out to be a bad guy afterall, history will forever remember him that way. A legacy that forever will stain his
name with blood of the innocents.

Not a good guy.
Very shitty guy.
Killed so many people.

The points I can agree with is that he's the only one who's being demonized.

People today walk freely with red stars on their heads and wave USSR flags around although those countries massacred Jews a lot before Hitler did and killed a lot more people.

Why does everyone know about the Holocaust but only the educated know about Holodomor?

Why aren't Hiroshima and Nagasaki viewed as huge crimes against humanity and those who ordered the bominbg the same demons as Hitler?
100s of thousands of civilians shouldn't be murdered for being Japanese just as much as Jews shouldn't be murdered for being Jews.

The communists did a lot of worse things than Hitler ever did.
The democrats did a lot of bad things, not as much as Hitler though.
Hitler did huge atrocities.

The reason why he's demonized more then the other 2 is because there's no one left to defend him, but the 2 victors defend their crimes and they are portrayed as 'just' and 'moral' simply because they can and people who fought for them are going to defend them no matter what.

If Hitler won the war, his crimes would be 'just' and 'moral' and Holodomor, Hiroshima, Nagasaki, Dresden etc. would be the only crimes we'd talk about and the Holocaust would be pushed under the carpet as much as Holodomor is today alongside Hiroshima and Nagasaki.
Crime is crime no matter who commits it and no matter who wins.

I suppose he worships muslims, good for him.

Wait, do you really think that that's the choice we have: sharia law or "hitlers" in charge? 

Thank you very much. And for you I hope you will get enriched under sharia law.

I (dis)respectfully refuse to have a discussion with (less than a) person who thinks of themselves so superior that they can brush off around 1/3 of the Earths population as unworthy human beings.
YOU are a problem sir, and your "solution" proved not just wrong but painfully, bloody stupid time and again. I sincerely regret engaging in this discussion that was apparently pointless from the very beginning.
I feel sorry for you and your sick mind that can splurge stinky ideas.
I invite you to spend, say, a year in NKorea (and, hopefully, some time in their Gulag) to appreciate what you have and how you live.

I totally agree with you.

Most things we know about history is false.  There are a lot of lies and misinformation thrown around regarding Hitler.  I don't believe he is evil as the Jewish media has suggested. 

If you keep adding trash like people to your country from all over the world then your country will become trash. Sheeple don't want to believe that muslims would try to take over when they've reached a certain number. If you point this out then they will laugh at you like brainwashed sheep. They will fight back but then it's too late. That's how our society roll, sleep when the enemy arrives and take action when it's too late.

A) This doesn't really explain how democracy if worse than dictatorship/oligopoly/autocracy...
B) To some degree I wouldn't argue that the mankind should come to their senses and find the way to live more in balance with the environment. But that's a completely different topic.
C) Still doesn't address my outrage about even a remote attempt to justify anything monsters like Hitler have done to their own countries and to the world...

Not being pushy here, just respectfully trying to stay on topic, and get/give answers accordingly.

Hitler was very good for his own people, same goes for Gaddafi. Not every regime is the same.
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Just curious: are you German? Do you have any German friends? Did you get this opinion from anyone from Germany?
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No, I'm not German but I consider myself as Germanic (Aryan). I know some people who share the same opinion but I always do my own research.

Sooner or later every technological ''advancement'' will go to waste. I believe that first world countries can't live forever like the way they do now. From now till 50-100 years in the future the enviroment will be very polluted and there will be lots of civil wars.

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Hitler was very good for his own people, same goes for Gaddafi. Not every regime is the same.
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Just curious: are you German? Do you have any German friends? Did you get this opinion from anyone from Germany?

Hitler was very good for his own people, same goes for Gaddafi. Not every regime is the same.

Just because no one you know voted for Euro doesn't mean it wasn't the opinion of the majority.
I've never been in any of the cities you're mentioning. Though I doubt that the quality of life is better in Caracas (let along Pyongyang) compared to Mälmo or Detroit.
I've seen what happens to people under other oppressive regimes, and I would pick democratic country over the rule of a autocrat any day (thankfully I don't even have to pick).

Last time I was in Paris (2016) it was still very romantic and beautiful.
Stepping away from the main topic: what do you mean by "improvements in technology are temporary"? I think it's pretty consistent, and I agree with the above said that in a democracy one has much better chances to express their talent, including technical, than in a dictator ruled society.

The improvements you see in technology are just temporary. Democracy stands for mass immigration and capitalism, not freedom. Yes, you have the right to vote but the decisions are already made for you. I personally know zero people who voted for our new currency, the Euro. It was forced to us.

Instead of comparing countries you should compare cities. Where would you rather live, in Detroit or Caracas? Mälmo or Pyongyang? As a true democrat you would pick those ruïned cities, Detroit and Mälmo. That's how all of our cities would eventually look like under democracy. Paris for example used to be known as a romantic city, what's left of that now?

As a matter of fact I do.
As imperfect as democracies are (and alas they are very far from perfect) - they are still much better than oppressing regimes. Think the second half of 20th century, and all the technological and scientific advances that were made withing the democratic systems.
Think blockchain and crypto: was it invented in the totalitarian country, or in the democratic country?
Again, democracies have flaws but by far it's the best the world has for right now.
I invite you to prove me wrong, and tell me how countries like North Korea, or Venezuela, or any other autocracy/dictatorship is somehow better than, say, Denmark, or New Zealand, or Canada.

May I add: and even if it does - let's hope it would be a parody, satire (yes, I'm thinking Trump  ).

Do you prefer democracy then? 

I simply can't believe that there are people who are seriously saying that "he had some points", or "there are some good things about him"... Geez, do you have someone who actually comes from (at least) the after war generation..? Ask them - maybe you will get much better insight. No matter what relatively positive aspects there were about that horrible dictator and murderer - he is responsible for deaths of millions upon millions of people, and that's what defines him. Talk to any German person, they are raised with the idea that they, as a nation, should be ashamed of that horrendous page in their history... I'm totally, completely appalled by some of the comments above. Guys, read the docu books, visit some memorials that still hold the memory of the crimes against humanity committed by that regime, and sanctioned by Hitler himself...

Hitler becomes an image of cruelty as what history taught us. He is well-known to be a dictator in his time. He killed a lot of people who don't do anything wrong, who is innocent. It is really unjust what he have done especially that he becomes unfair and greedy. Dictatorship is somehow experienced by our country. It is just the same thing on what are they doing— controlling people and doing what they want up to killing people. Hitler will be forever be seen as a model not worth following as he indeed do a lot of cruel and horrible things. I hope that the common saying "history repeats itself" won't happen in this matter because we don't want to experience such thing again.

Hitler had great insight but lost its way when his greed for power grew large. He did not only wage war against neighboring country, but also wanted to conquer the world, and this was his biggest mistake, which resulted to his downfall.

Do you actually believe he killed 6 million Jews? But yes, they were the real problem. After he kicked most of the Jews out of Germany the economy started to shine.

I've already read it, quite boring imo.

It 1889 he was born in germany on 20 April. Politician Adolf Hitler was Chancellor of Germany until 1933-34 Intellectual, high -minded workers used to hate movement. Hitler was Jewish antagonist. Hitler formed the dictatorship after Germany's power and took a series of punishment, including Judaism, and became more dangerous to implement. And Hitler wrestles in a war -fighting game, form on country to another in his heart.Hitler made world peace through dictatorship and terrorist activities.

What do I think of a guy that killed 6 millions Jews just because he couldn't find the real problem of his country?  An asshole.

Unpopular opinion here, but Hitler was one of the greatest public speakers there ever was. I would honestly say a lot of great public speakers would have studied the way he talked, his body language, his intensity. Quite the salesman!

Don't get me wrong i'm not saying he was a particularly nice chap, having been to Auschwitz to visit (which i absolutely recommend by the way if you're into your history) the concentration camp and actually walk in the buildings where people perished en masse, is so eerie, yet a very important reminder that the guy had lost his mind and was indeed a real nasty piece of work. That said, have a read of Mein Kampf if you get the chance and make your own mind up.

The only arguments that I've seen for Hitler is that he had good policies when first trying to get into power. This might of well been the case, however you've really got to consider the motives of these policies. To me it seems that he was trying to gain mass support to get into power, and at that point it would be incredibly difficult to dislodge him.

Maybe he did have good intentions, and the power got to his head. But, ultimately he done fucked up when he was in power, and that's all that really matters.

Probably, because of this nasty little habit he had that when he got pissed off he just decided to cleanse a certain ethnic group.


Painted a picture of my lambo once for FREE. Top quality painting, and top bloke.


That source doesn't look to be very reputable, and data is often skewed. Especially on a topic such as intelligence as that's often subjective.

Animals aren't rampaging manics you know right? They don't just go out, and kill for fun. They are much like humans in a sense that they are willing to kill for territorial gains, and to eat. Just like humans wage wars for power, money, and food. In medieval times, and before kings used to wage wars just for farm land so they could support their growing population or spread out their population to prevent disease, because of the ever growing shit that was being expelled by it's population, and not being disposed of. I mean the Vikings initially invaded England to gain farm land for crops.

Poles and Jews are the scum of the earth. Jews have been deportated out of more than 100 countries, no one likes them except politicans who get paid by them. They are the ones behind mass immigration in western countries. If Hitler would've won WW2 our countries would be clean.

I think he was not so much a good politician as a charismatic leader. However, someone can say that this is the same thing ...
of course, it has phenomenally lifted the spirit of the nation (if you think in isolation from the consequences, just as a fact).
although it is possible that he was simply an ex-patron of other, more hidden forces, who saw in him fanatics and the ability to lead the people behind him ...

Don't be fooled by others opinions. think for yourself if what he actually did is right?
Solution for immigration isn't killing. And who's given him the power to decide who lives and who dies based on the skills.
Jews are knows to be smartest (Ref:http://immortallife.info/articles/entry/why-is-the-iq-of-ashkenazi-jews-so-high)

In simple words he is just trump but with monarch powers.
Power makes you mad, go through the history and read what kings have done.

Any person who supports killing of another human being without valid criminal or judicial reasons is no different than an animal.
Here we are dealing with Millions of deaths and its disappointing to see people taking sides with him.

Just imagine happening that to you, put yourself in the shoes of that million.
For the crime they never commited for the reasons no one knows you were killed brutally.

think. Before its illegal.

Hitler is the person who is responsible for the depopulation of Europe. He massacred some 60 million people (mostly Slavs such as Russians and Poles, but also some 5-6 million Ashkenazi Jews). His actions are responsible for the demographic problems faced by Europe right now.

The genius of political fanaticism, his faith and ability to convince many, even today's politicians, of a fairy tale, The desire to exalt his people, but it is a pity that the path chosen by him is not peaceful and bloody.

Yes, you are right. The media has unfairly demonized him. He was actually a top bloke.

Hitler for me was a great warrior because of his views on immigration .. Truth be told,Immigration faces a greater threat to any nation than sounds of war.. His is widely criticise but I think I share in his sentiment

Hitler was a looser. And looser are to be blamed.
But if we look at all the events rationally, he was much better than most of the leaders in Europe.
He's mostly accused for the so called ethnic cleansing of Jews. But what we forget is how and why that number of Jews took refuge in Germany.

I think he had some valid points.

He stated that immigration and race mixing will be the down fall for a nation, not war. By bringing in other people and cultures the original will fall thus become less valueable and more controlable. Here in my ''western'' country they the elites have been pushing immigration for decades and the result is very noticeable. Especially in big cities, there I feel like I'm in another country. If you compare my country 100 years ago from now it has changed for the worse and only a small minority of my own kind recognize this but it's too late now.

White people made up a third of the total world population but right now it's a mere 5%. I think that within a few more decades white people will cease to exist. Hitler said that Germany would either become a world super power or will not continue to exist at all and I believe he was right.

I think all sides of WW2 were wrong but only Hitler get's a bad name, making it look like the allies were the true hero's.

Here are some interesting youtube video's where Hitler doesn't get demonized:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rSI9NOHwr7o
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3R7dULoNiVA


What do you think about him? Was he a hero, a puppet and or a bastard?