Topic: What do you think about youtube/twitch marketing? Is it ethical? (Read 448 times)

there is no longer anything ethical in the market,advertising today follows only the ways of earning

It seems to me that today any advertising using videos will be really successful. Today, a beautiful and bright picture is important for clients. This will help make your product or service truly remembered. I own a small cafe. I also did not miss the opportunity to create an animated video about my cafe. I used it in Facebook ads and it was a success! So i cooperate with the best company which deal with animated video production Galera Agency . I think it is good desicion

There seems to be some backing against casino with Twitch and they really are becoming strict.

But anyway, even if they track down these streamers, there will still be a way for them to stream in other platforms.

In my country and neighbor countries (Eastern Europe) this is ethical. "Everyone makes money as they can" . So you can't complain and tell someone that he is "unethical". People will not understand it. And one addition: In Eastern Europe, to be sponsored by gambling site is one of the least "unethical" things to complain for. Here a lot of people doing much more terrifying things and people around don't consider it as "unethical" 

That's right. Money can tempt every person to do what the money wants and even if that job is related to something illegal. I think Youtube will only act if they got a report from their viewer and Youtube will check it if those Youtuber breaks their rule or not. If yes, Youtube will block their account and will not allow them to upload a video anymore.

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I know people who gamble hard in traditional casinos on/offline and have never seen a video of YT/Twitch.
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It is a myth that casinos live on high rollers, a casino essentially lives on fish, so a ViP player is in that category because the casino needs to have that image in which regular players are reflected.
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Promote casinos in any way  is already in itself; How is this ethical?
The way it is shown or done is indifferent.
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We live in times of existential information crisis, the "rule,"  permissibility,  the ethical is subjective and it seems that everyone  want it see from your own point of view.
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Nowadays, what is not ethical for you, if it is for a great majority: as an American judge said, moral rules change socially, it is something irremediable and uncontrollable, so if the Law, although unfair, retrograde allows it then leave it to your common sense or your degree of ethical permeability.

As being said, it's marketing. Those companies that are hiring these streamers are only giving scripts to these people that they hire so obviously, they're only following what's on the script and that is to make them look the best in the eyes of their viewers. It's always the catch needed for these companies to attract new customers coming in. Its advertising is making people easy looking at their product as what these streamers show to them.

A lot of these Streamers are affiliates of the casinos that they represent, so these casinos are funding their bankroll. It is also rumoured that these paid Streamers are using a "lucky" Seed provided by the casinos and that they are receiving a special RTP to increase their winnings. (There is no proof to back up these rumors, but that is the big debate that is doing the rounds)

Eddie from Stake.com was banned several times for advertising on Twitch and he had to continue his regular Saturday streaming on another platform. (DLive) where the rules are more forgiving.    (So these popular platforms are clamping down on advertising linked to gambling)  

 

Gambling can be ethical and non ethical if the will to gamble or promote gambling site is of good will. If gambling starts involving fraudulent acts then it will start to become unethical cause the aim of gambling will have changed it direction. Promotion of gambling platforms is ethical but if it is done in a fraudulent manner then we call say that it's unethical.

No. Just in a healthy society, everyone should understand that for an objective understanding, you should not rely on someone else's opinion or advertising, but study the issue from different angles and then make a decision. And the consequences of this decision will be entirely on you. If you want to get into the ideal world where everyone is telling the truth, then most likely you will be upset because there is no such world yet. If you want someone (like the state) to determine what people are allowed to speak or advertise, then most likely you will fall into totalitarianism.

Yes, that is because money smells good so that makes the influencers want to accept the job and spread the word about the site. Whether the influencer is getting paid from the casino or not, we are not sure about that and do not have to think much about that. Yes, the simple answer will be back to ourselves, whether it is ethical or unethical. We can say that unethical, but how about them?

If we think this way, we are going to blame the victims instead of the guilty in different situations, with the excuse the victim wasn't smart enough to avoid being deceived by the malicious person. Of course high levels of awareness and distrust are needed to stay safe in a dirty world like this one, but I believe we shouldn't banalize these situations and accept them as normal.

The correct in a healthy society would be to trust what people say, especially if they are advertising something, without the fear we are being cheated by them. And I believe that should be the aim of a good marketing campaign. Lies may work and be profitable on short run, but only truth can build solid bases and thrive on long run.

They are playing with the real money but the money is completely sponsored by the platform they are promoting it means the user is not going to lose any money from his pocket while get a hige chunk as their salary for such promotion but this isn't have any ethical issues because they are just promoting which is why they are getting paid for it meanwhile they can get more respect if they reveal it to their followers.

Well, that is not practical dude, those community investors who get attracted using twitch or youtube are the one who have a lot of money only, but the people who are in the average only like me can't able to get involve to that trick. Meaning, small amount of money in the bankroll the chances of winning is very low or minimal.

Business is business, these people who are influencers are working to make money, they are paid by a gambling site or sites to promote them, so there's nothing wrong with that. If we talk about whether it's ethical or not, then a simple question would answer that, and that is, is gambling ethical?

It must be admitted that inaccurate advertising is allowed not only for casinos, almost all advertising around speaks only of the pros, but hides the minuses, this can hardly be considered an objective presentation of information.
As for the issue under discussion, I think that age restrictions are observed there - YouTube has a rather tough policy and it is unlikely that someone will risk banning the channel for a one-time profit.

I would argue that you are a bit wrong here to say the least. We have some very dangerous tendencies in society not because people are less intelligent today, but because it is easier to be influenced by things that sent you off your own path, the path you would take by making your own decisions without being overwhelmed from the outside.
Diabetes isn't rising because people are less intelligent. Same for porn addiction, it is just the availability. People socialize less today because of social networks and the digital space growing, and many of those things happening these days aren't healthy.
And where is the line when you would say someone is capable or not? Also, it is scientifically proven that there are people who are genetically more receptive for addictions than others, so are they less intelligent?
I am not speaking against advertising stuff, but luring people into buying something with dubious techniques is questionable. One was mentioned before and that is when someone gets paid to play online casino games where something might be rigged. You see, it could even be rigged without the streamer knowing about it I can imagine. Like they get paid $10,000 to play on a website, and what a lucky they have out of a sudden, they keep winning and winning because there is a wonderful software running in the background and they don't even know about it.
I think as soon as advertisements strongly tend to portray false chances or promises, that is a red line.

This is what I'm trying to say, for them it's ethical since it's part of the marketing strategy as long as they don't feel any shame on it. But of course, if they were actors and so used to it then they already master it while for some people they think that they were genuinely playing with their own money but most of the time they don't, they have someone who's ready to dump some money in order to gain something back.

Just like how these online games these days streamers are gaining free stuffs from the game because their content is all about the game and of course you should be good with it. And for gambling I don't think they will ever going to reveal their strategy in front of the people so expect that they were doing something in order to gain some people's trust but in reality they were just actors.

I guess these guys would do anything to grow their user base because the competition is quite high as we have a very huge number of gambling companies in this ecosystem all competing to win customers on to their platforms.

In terms of being ethical, well If there are disclaimers and consent to get these users to do these marketing gigs for them...I honestly don't see anything wrong to be honest. It's not like it's a free service,  there is some form of reward for it so I guess it's just business.

Many content creators are only in for the money not after effects of the information no they had pass to the public. It's not unethical because it's one of the strategies that are used in the market industries to attract be customers. A marketer which could be an advertiser can indicator the some traits to really be point at who or what the advert is being made for.

Yes posting any content without putting any age restriction towards gambling activities also post a good to be true claims just to lure people and promote their referral links towards their followers is totally unethical but if the content creator promotes responsible gamble and only posting out base on his reviews then they are totally good and a content creator to follow since they can guide people on how to became responsible towards there playing decision.

And most important thing on this is don't follow a content creator who have sponsor videos(Not all but almost) since for sure you will only get hyping or untrue contents.

It only becomes unethical if they posted it without age restrictions this only means they encourage younger people to gamble, so if its uploaded on youtube they must activate the restrictions. Advertisement is fine I personally register on some suggested sites because of Youtube but then I realize that his winnings might not real since he’s advertising the site and he is being paid for that, probably playing the money of casinos just to give false advertisement which is still legal.

But if you exclude age, then everything that you have listed - drugs, some personal problems, illness, etc. it is not a problem of who is doing advertising or is your counterparty in any transaction. If a person is considered capable, then all his decisions are his responsibility. Because if you consider it differently, then unexpectedly for yourself, you may face the cancellation of transactions unilaterally and other things due to the fact that the counterparty "had some problems".

If we take the time to really watch any ad that you can see on TV you will see that most of the time the product is not advertised over its merits and instead the ads are manipulative so I am not surprised that we are now seeing something similar on YouTube videos, however if the review is sponsored and it is presented as such then I have no problems with it as they are basically telling you they are being paid to give the review, however if the review is sponsored but the person denies this then this is not ethical and it is a problem.

That really depends on life circumstances. Is someone taking drugs and getting addicted to online gambling automatically less intelligent that someone who doesn't get into that situation? I would highly doubt that. You can be in personal trouble or whatever problem you might have in a certain situation, stuff that can make you vulnerable to bad influence that usually wouldn't harm you in the slightest.

Also, age plays a big role. I have made bad decisions with 15/16 years that I would never repeat again.

I regard people as intelligent beings capable of independent decisions and conclusions. Therefore, I do not see anything unethical in such advertising. If it is very easy to deceive you (or rather create a mistaken opinion) with the help of such simple techniques, then this is first of all your problem and you need to raise your level of awareness and a critical view of the world.

Paid streamer by the house will definitely going to manipulate the viewer by telling that he is using his own money in gambling. It's unethical by hiding the truth behind the big bets on gambling instead of telling the truth. But this is just part of the marketing strategy of a gambling site which of course they think will attract gamblers. Twitch made an action that will help balance a healthy environment on the site but yeah it will affect a non-scammy streamers by the regulation that an online site were imposing.

When I find something tough and publicly proven to be difficult to obtain, and then someone suddenly in his chair starts doing few seconds magic to convince the world that it's truly easy, I find it very hard to accept such a concept. We are all aware that to win in gambling is sometimes accompanied by luck and skill, no one can sit on his wheel and tell me differently.
Even if you read the comments on the streams, if you are a curious person, you will find it hard to believe the games as genuine.


What makes it unethical? Watching those streams is a form of gambling since you know that if you follow the procedures, you will either lose or gain.
Actually, there are decent YouTubers that preserve their reputation and have taught many of their techniques, but I don't believe in following one's approach, only the foolish do so, and that's why they fall prey.

Tips: Loosing is part of gambling, you can't always outsmart the house or another player. Go with the vibes and learn yourself.

Their marketing strategy really helps them attract attention from people who watch Youtube and even if they paid Youtubers with some cash, the casino still makes a profit from the new gamblers. Maybe that strategy will work temporarily until they can find a new way to attract more people to come to their site and spend their time playing gambling. But related to unethical, that will be no problem because we do not know if the other sites are also doing the same thing as them.

For sure they would really hop in into the current trend because if you don't know on which site you are tending to stream on then viewer numbers wont really be that significant.

Talking about those wins on the end then its just really that truly random because if this is really for the benefit out on sites positive reputation then it would really be ending up on rigging those bets.

Most streamers do really go for sponsorship or do really just tend to stream out something which is really on trend.Doesnt matter on what it is as long it is really in line on the current
hypes and interest in the market.

I don't really care if there is a disclaimer about the money being sponsored or not but it does matter(at least for me) if they claim that the money they gamble is theirs when in reality it is not.  there are tons of gullible gamblers (adults/kids) out there that would believe these streamers. I don't deny that hiring streamers to advertise play on their gambling site is a great marketing strategy. what I am pointing out is that these streamers should at least have a common courtesy towards their viewers and not letting them believe that the sponsored money they gamble is theirs.

In some discussions about this matter, some people are sure that streamers have increased the chances of winning! Especially situations where these streamers lose, it's happening often, and then with the last bet's they are hitting something incredibly huge!
How they work on this, well, look at Twitch, they have some new rules, but I don't know how all that is working for now... I guess there's no cure for this, streamers will always find a new platform where they can stream, and viewers will follow probably!

I'm not aware of that kind of promotion, but it doesn't look unethical for me as long as the site is playing and players have no complaints about their deposit and withdrawal and the gambling is provably fair, when it comes to depositing and playing it's up to players you should know better by doing your own research and do not get influence by Youtubers.

Yes,  as a smart content streamer they will definitely maximize the way they are monetize content via ref links, even if they are not sponsored.
If we go back to the topic of ethics in advertising, I think using sponsorship funds is still reasonable and fine. as long as there is no criminal element in the method. like fraud. false information and so on

It does not matter where the money comes from, it does not matter whether there is a disclaimer or not from the streamer.
What we need to put in our mind is, watch them as entertainment only and dont be attracted to bet more than you can afford to lose because we watch those streamers.
If we are losing big because we watch them regularly and we think that we can get the same result, it is completely our own fault.
Those paid/sponsored streamers is one of the best marketing strategies, the same when we see many posts in this forum about big wins.

Obviously not.
They are a paid actors as If they're playing with their own money, isn't that too obvious?
This is also the same as the YouTubers who has been making tons of reviews about the latest NFT games today, because they themselves were invested into the game and they want everyone to play to the game for them to earn when an NFT pumps.
Those giveaways are just another marketing strategy to gather more viewers.

Why would it be unethical? If you think that way, wearing casino signatures should be equally unethical. Or other TV ads that promote gambling should be unethical too... Beer also affects your health badly but we see beer ads everywhere on TV. Do you think it is  unethical? No, I don't think so. If minors watch these ads and get affected by them, it is their parents' responsibility to keep them away from those. We can't turn the whole world into a kindergarten just because there are kids around.

It can be ethical and it's rather easy for it to be. All the streamer has to do is be clear when they have received any sort of financial or other benefit from a company that they are choosing to promote. Personally I would discount and disclaim any ones opinion on a product or service if they have received any form of sponsorship in return. They might bring up interesting features which can be helpful in forming your own opinions, but everyone should do their own independent research before jumping in and buying any product. The streamer might be told to focus on one particular benefit but the service is actually weak in comparison to others in different fields. They and you will inevitably get subconsciously manipulated by advertising but that is all around in the world and not limited to twitch/youtube.

It's unethical but it works and gambling sites and Youtube and Twitch continue to do this and it will continue to be effective as long as they are getting new players to register and invest and do what Youtube and Twitch marketing are doing when it comes to gambling you have to do research not only how to play games and how they market their features and games and you will discover it's part of their marketing hype.

^ Definitely right!
Do you believe when streamers bet it is manipulated by the gambling owners, they will increase the chances of winning?
I heard this before so many times, I am not sure how they will work on it. Minor age could possibly watch the video and make them curious which they thought that it was just easy to bet in gambling online. This will mislead them and possibly turn to addiction. Speaking of Ethical, I don't think so.

Ethical or not, people are watching... I guess mostly for some free money they can get! And as long as these casino streamers rain money in their channels there will be people watching it! Of course, viewers can be minors (and I believe most of them are) and that is a bit problematic, they watch some guy who is playing hard and winning really big and they think they can do it as well!

I don't find it interesting, to watch someone else gambles... I like to see a nice winning bet, but to watch the entire session is like a complete waste of time for me, I would rather enjoy playing than watching someone else do it!

Not all streamers have the opportunity to be partnered or sponsored by a gambling site so obviously, there are streamers that use their own money to play at the gambling site during their live stream or recorded ones.

As I said above, streamers are earning thru a number of views because of ads exposure.

The said sponsorship is just a big perk if the streamer really has that big name, reputable, famous, and more importantly considered as heavy influencers.

I think that it's completely unethical for that to be allowed without any sort of warning.

People are so easily misled and there are probably underaged viewers to these streams as well which makes it even worse.

I am certainly all for casinos promoting their services but not through these misleading means. I think that the streamers should at least be staking some of their own money as opposed to getting it all from affiliate earnings.

They are doing it to attract views and that's also pointing to the same goal to gather the interest of partneship,
the more viewers they've got the more possible partnerships and advertsiement that wil lawaits to their channels.
More money will flow when they've got the attentions of both viewers and the business owners.

Unless they are good with the game that they are playing, though still a doubt that they'll going to use their own money
especially if it's already a huge amount of money to stake with the game.

It's a part of advertisement where business owners are working to acheived goals of bringing more gamblers to their platform.

You are correct there that the decision will still be based on the viewers.

But disagree with the part of the way it was market is a dirty trick. It means the steamer's actions and way of advertising the site are effective. That was a skill that other streamers don't have.


Possible. And aside from that, the views are more important. They can make money there even without a direct sponsorship on the site. Of course, it's good to have sponsorship but it's not a necessary part. It's like other streamers who are playing games but the purpose is for number views and not a benefit from the games they are streaming.

It depends on who's looking, if you are an old gambling player you have probably seen everything how gambling site is being advertised and this is just part of it, some gambling sites are resorting to faking their bets you're not going to think it's unethical it's an old and accepted practice, but if you are new in the gambling scene, definitely this is a big no-no for you and you will even call this fake advertising, but as long as the gambling site is paying, I don't think it's a big issue at all.

They are advertising for a casino. People that are interested in gambling are watching those videos. I don't see anything "unethical" over here. They aren't lying or anything. I mean they are saying, the higher your bankroll, the higher the profit you can make which is somewhat true. Now if someone decides to watch that video and follow those "strategies", then its a choice that he/she has taken. If you think it is unethical, then all sort of advertisement is actually unethical because everything is exaggerated on those advertisements.
Maybe they are actually playing with their own money. All they are trying to do is attract high rollers to join the casino using their affiliate link.

Until you prove that it is not their money, unfortunately, it cannot be said that they are lying.
Of course, many of them definitely just work for the casino or marketing agency hired by the casino.
The matter is quite complicated, but it is obvious that if the person is playing in agreement with the casino and the money is not theirs, this information should be provided. I think that soon there will be appropriate regulations that will prohibit lying in this matter.

Its a bit uncommon for streamers to live on or stream out without having any affiliation or referral kind of motive and just simply diving with the hype but as long they dont spent out money then for sure
this is a bit common because they do jump with the hype and more view means more money.

If they do attached with gambling then its unlikely that they will really be making use of their own funds unless if its really that interesting then using their personal or came from their own pocket or wallet

but most of the time it would really be on sponsorship.Is it ethical? sort of and since its part of marketing then its just normal.

Of course this is not. But I'm not surprised about the fact that youtube or twitch advertising gambling. There a lot of drug commercial at youtube so they doesn't care about gambling. And they will not do anything about that. Because this is a lot of money for them. 

If advertisements are ethical then acting in it also ethical, we have to decide what we can do with our money amd ofcourse these advertisements are here to lure people but why you wre giving space for someone to manipulate you.

I agree that disclosing a sponsorship from the gambling site is a crucial consideration. And of course, it is also important that the legitimacy of the featured site is ensured, nonetheless it would be like pulling people into a trap if not disclosed as well. I think that this is ethical for as long as no one is disadvantaged and deprived of the truth.

if the money is sponsored by the gambling site and if there is a disclaimer from the streamer I think it's fine. but if they claim that the money that they gamble is theirs but in reality, the money was sponsored by a gambling site. I think that is just plain deceiving and they should be called out. I know streamers can or could get a commission from the traffic his streams make to the gambling site.
as for their reactions. they need to attract an audience/gamblers so I understand if they over-exaggerate their reactions even if the money is sponsored.

I don't see tie motive behind those who lie streams on Youtube or twitch. They attract everyone and its up to you if you want to play gambling at a particular site or not. Every one is earning money and if they have a lot of audience, these live streams will surely do a paid promotion. As long as they are not promoting any scam, i think there is nothing wrong in marketing.

I do have mixed feelings for this. Unfortunately, there are YouTubers who are paid by the gambling websites in order to sponsor the latter. The funds that those YouTubers have came from the owners of the gambling website and in some cases, the odds are also rigged.

As someone who frequently watches YouTube, there was an instance where I got hooked in trying these so called "skin-gambling websites" (CSGO) where a famous YouTuber promoted it. Unfortunately, the results were not the ones that I was hoping for. But on the other hand, these YouTubers also get paid from it as a source of their income.

We can say that is not ethical but for them, that is okay because they use their own way that is not usually like the other gambling site. So next time, if you watch those videos, you can skip the video and search for the other videos that can help you get what you want.

I think every gambling site will have its own way to promote its sites and that is one of the ways that they can use. Although that looks not right to us but we can not do anything except skip the videos.

Well, before thinking about ethics for a stranger, we should look at the facts from the perspective of these companies and online platforms, their ethics is to bring income to the employees, they need advertising and they won't refuse contracts, won't allow them to have such marketing, no salary and from strangers' offers, they are really unethical towards these people. The view of many people is still quite selfish and only takes into account their own risk and many others but excluding the risks of the companies, the marketing has never been overdone here, almost all have warning labels for people under the allowed age

Yes it's ethical, I don't think that the companies sponsor streamers/content creators that they know have a higher demographic for kids, I mean have you looked at some YouTube channel that's mainly kids?  They don't have any kind of gambling sponsor and I think for now, it's ethical and the gambling companies really don't want the backlash.

It's all about making money and how to make the site looks good, Youtube and Twitch streamers are making money doing this and the gambling sites they are promoting will look good in the eye of the gamblers, they need it to sustain the operation, gambling sites are not different from other business they need to present their best version, I don't see anything unethical on this as long as they can keep up with what they are showing in their marketing.

I think one problem here is definitely that big streamers are often times big for a reason and that reason is that they function kind of like a role model for their followers. If that role model then starts to gamble in online casinos, especially younger people might get the wrong impression that gambling is just fun and not dangerous. The question then is whether it is really all technically ok, no fake results on slot machines and stuff. And I am 100% sure that most of the money the streamers play with is sponsored in one way or another. You just can't prove the opposite.

That depends on how you view the situation, but for me I don't find it unethical knowing that a lot of things can't be taken for what they are as others get away with it and like the others have mentioned already it's an effective way of advertising. It's kind of similar to how certain casinos introduce their bonuses that seems too good to be true then they don't clearly state the actual requirements in unlocking the bonus. Imo it only becomes unethical when morals is also involved since we immediately know to ourselves that it's not right to deceive other people.

Those who do not understand the gambling world will consider such practice unethical, this is industry practice, they hire Youtube and Twitch influencers to showcase features of the gambling site they are promoting if you have control and are a responsible gambler you're not going to these promotions and marketing hype, the most unethical thing in the world of gambling is promoting scam or dubious gambling site these Youtube influencers and Twitch marketers should not be tolerated if they are doing this..

that can be one of the reason why streamers are given huge sums of money so that they can bet longer and hit the high multiplier that they are targetting however on some occasions a streamer can also win at the beggining or after a few bets that he placed and they are playing with minimum bet or lesser than that .
this made the viewer try that gambling site and see if they can also make easy money  .i think this is still ethical as long as streamers tell the truth that it wasnt their money theyr playing with

ethical or not it all depends on the perception of each of us
I myself see that the ad is still ethical because the company pays for YouTube/YouTuber or Twitch to market the products they offer

those who are adults can definitely distinguish what is best and appropriate for them to do

if they think gambling is detrimental to them then don't do it otherwise if it is profitable and they can still control then gambling because it is inspired by advertisements or YouTubers it's not a big problem imo

I don't see anything wrong with it, so it's ethical for me as we know they are just paid to promote a certain gambling site.

That's probably part of the promotion and they used popular influencers so they can gain new gamblers to play with their platform, it's an old way of marketing trick and still very effective until now.

Marketing has always been a dirty trick tbh. Ever since its inception marketing has employed dubious, manipulative, and not so obvious tactics. So regarding twitch and youtube, I think it's nothing new, it's just implementing well-known marketing tactics on new mediums. Is it ethical? Not really, but it's accepted.

I wouldn't disagree with that! If the streamers are using company money and claiming it as their own money, then it's unethical for sure. Because there is no truth. But I believe the gambling houses are promoting such practices and there's little we can do. Twitch has recently imposed some restrictions on gambling video where they are not allowed to put their referral links anymore. But this is not something that can put an end to this practice.

But to be honest, banks are the most unethical business organizations in the world and their scale of operations are quite big compared to online gambling market. So it's not right to blame gambling only!

That's their marketing strategy and I honestly don't find it unethical because that's their strategy to attract more players. Gambling sites would pay streamers a huge amount just to advertise them and it's still for us viewers to believe in what we see on different platforms. It's still our prerogative to do research before believing the streams that we watch.

I never heard of such thing as ethical marketing in gambling and all youtube and twitch influencers need is more money nad profit.
If some actor said he was playing with his money that could be true but that money was given to him by casino before

If we were to talk about ethical things in marketing, I'd bet 99% of it would actually be out already. We don't talk about ethics when it comes to marketing, that would defeat the purpose of marketing, which is profiting. Profiting comes in many ways, a number of them include sucking up to the stupidity of gullibility of people, albeit borderline legal.

Same with youtube/twitch marketing. We all know how streamers have a higher bankroll due to being sponsored, and yet we think that we can also do it. Is it their fault for not clarifying that? I don't think so. They have no obligation to do so really, and it's our fault for not understanding that simple fact prior to actually gambling.

Marketing is a dirty game. I think a lot of marketing strategies are unethical.

I consider this promotion of gambling as unethical. If you are convincing people to deposit a large amount of money to gambling sites so that they are supposed to win big as well, you are doing an unethical act. It is not a question whether the money is really theirs or not. It is a different story. If they are lying, then they are obviously unethical. But that's another issue. For me, it is already plain unethical to make it appear as if gambling is a way to make money and the bigger you gamble the better.

Many casinos are practicing that even well-established casinos it's one way to sustain the money flowing inside the casino it's up to the players if they want to follow the advice of the streamers, what's unethical practice is promoting scam gambling sites and telling them that they are paying on time when they are not, we have at least two scam gambling site here with a signature campaign and many members promoting and supporting them, that's unethical for me.

This is what happening with those streamers. We can see regular gamblers winning in big multiples, but to achieve that he/she might've been spending little by little for months. When it comes to the streamers, quite often we can see them winning big. In one way it is unethical, because there is no truth. On the other side, it is the common practice by gambling houses. Even the same kind of promotion is followed on different other businesses, particularly on options trading.

I don't think that it is.

Twitch is banning gambling related affiliates for a reason I think. And it's well deserved because it's simply misleading and making people believe that there is more chance of winning than there actually is.

It's not fair as the big casinos like Roobet are the ones who are able to sponsor their affiliates like this as well. So that further monopolizes the market.

I think there's nothing wrong with that, specially if they are using their own money to gamble. And they are earning as well when their channel got lots of view and subscribers and thumbs up, it added some algorithm in the channel.

So still up to the gamblers who are watching their channel, if they are attracted to gamble more because of what they have seen, then it's their fault, IMHO. As far as marketing goes, Youtube is now design to be targeted some demographics, a niche, so that's marketing already.

It's unethical but is not prohibited that's why they continue to promote. I'm sure there are people trying to expose them on their comments, I've read some of the comments given by the viewers which they are saying the strategy isn't working and that means they really tried what the streamer is doing. Victims are complaining.

Streamers continue to do it even after they changed their terms as twitch introduced restrictions on gambling-related links.

I think that it is unethical only if the streamers does not declare the affiliation.

But unfortunately, most people don't declare this affiliation.

There is nothing wrong with people streaming even as affiliates as long as they have made this clear to the audience from the get-go. And there is definitely nothing wrong with casinos themselves operating twitch streams.

Does those streamers havent declared nor tell that its on a sponsored money? You could actually notice this even if they wont really be telling the truth because no streamer would be spending tons
on a gambling site and they are streaming for income and wont really be just wasted or would be deposited on a gambling site.It does really need up some common sense sometimes.
Unethical on being deceptive but theres nothing we can do about it.

Hosting giveaways are a creative form of marketing. One whose allure could be wearing thin due to them being so common, undocumented and unorganized.

I think what is needed to make them more legitimate is for the organization and logistics of it to be handled better. With more documentation and information. To become more normalized like lotteries or sweepstakes.

The main things are people want to know is that there were legitimate winners. Who are not associated or affiliated with those offering prizes. And that people receive what was promised.

In a worst case scenario, a youtuber could offer $50 in prizes to the best retweet. Make another account. Give the prize $ to their ALT account. Taking steps to document and verify that not being the case, is the ideal that should be pursued IMO.

Is there any need to go further than this?

If the intent is this, then clearly this is fraudulent and very unethical.

I actually stopped playing at Roobet because of this. There are way too many Twitch streamers who are clearly using fake money to gamble and getting paid to exploit their audience base.

still reasonable and ethical if that can be still obtained. if it's unethical if it's impossible to get and they sell it. and many of them have also given a disclaimer about gambling. as long as what is advertised is still reasonable even they put acting on it it's still normal and okay.

When there are lies in the marketing it's not ethical for this simple reason. But I think the fact the public target are the big players it's not a problem. I believe it's casinos and promoters' right to do the best they can do attract the public they think it's interesting for them, since they don't use fake situations to do so.

Anyway, as this situation was debated a lot and everyone in the industry is already aware, I think the public will just stay away from youtubers/streamers who use such lies to promote their content and will approach legit ones. In the end it will be a good opportunity for new youtubers/streamers to grow their channels and audience with honest content.

If you are a real gambler and you know how they advertise you should know better, when it comes to gambling your experience and how you perceive gambling is what matters, Youtube and Twitch marketing has a lot of false marketing not only on gambling but on investment schemes too, if you're the kind who believe on what you see and read online easily you will be deceived, you should always do diligent research.
I prefer to believe in honest reviews from independent players who spend their own money and Youtube is not the place to check for honest reviews unless the Youtuber is an independent one.
Gambling sites and investment schemes and all their marketers have a disclaimer, Only invest what you can afford to play or invest and this is one of their few pieces of advice that is correct and I also recommend all gamblers to follow this.

The videos you are referring here, are mostly sponsored by the gambling houses. Just like any other businesses, gambling houses also need to market their casino to reach their target customers. So youtube/twitch streaming is one way of reaching highly targeted customer base.

But if the streamers are wrongfully claiming that they are usingbtheir own money but in reality if they are using sponsored money, then it's unethical for sure. But in this highly competitive market, such things usually happen as standard practices.

Why it wouldnt be ethical? This had been the most common way of marketing.If we do look on the other side of things which talks about those acting then those are just part of the reality on where

they would really be using up those kind of ways just to lure in people no matter what the cost.It might look not to be ethical to you but its their way to lure in
even though it isnt really that appealing but well theres nothing we can do with that thing.

We all have seen dozen videos of streamers on twitch/youtube who play with huge amount of money and sometimes win a lot. Overall, the main idea behind these streams is that if you have huge bankroll, then you have a higher chance of win greater amounts of money. This is done in order to attract people with higher bankroll instead of low ones. While I was always saying that adult person is independent in his/her choice and if he/she does anything, it's only his fault, I still look at this marketing like a dirt trick to attract people with bankroll more than they are afford to lose.

Most of the times I have seen youtubers who were using high quality equipment, tech support, etc and had different casino themes on their video but were acting like an actors and were swearing that they were playing with their own money.

So, what do you guys think, is this kind of marketing ethical?