Topic: What Do You Think Of Variety Wholesome Show Incorporating Casino Games? (Read 384 times)

I don't think advertisements or TV shows targetting children should promote gambling games in a favorable way. But children need to get educated, they should be aware of dangers in order to be able to avoid them or to protect themselves against them. That's why I don't think this kind of thing should be censored in the name of children. If they don't discover things of life through TV shows they will discover them by themselves in an uncontrolled manner.

You're right and that's what I've said that they're inspired by those games. There's no betting involved but the game itself has been made close to them but with different rules and some twist. And when we're younger, we don't even have an idea that those games have taken the concept of gambling games. As long as there's no betting involved and they're mainly made for entertainment and there's no stake involved from the players, there is no problem with these gameshow and that's why they're wholesome.

I wont blame those that does so because they are making the incorporation for their own business in other for them to drive towards their targets, this could also in other perspective seen as chance of contributing to the way of being entertained with such incorporation, though others could termed it as something different, but we should focus more on the good side of doing this than the other way round.

It really depends on how the TV show displays gambling on the story being represented. I've always watched TV shows during my childhood which displayed situations where the characters gambled and gambling played an important role on the show's events. But it's important to notice the TV shows weren't about promoting gambling. They weren't gambling propagangas, rather they displayed gambling in realistic ways, where characters lost money, while others cheated, and others were pretty lucky.

To see the different outcomes gambling can have in someone's life helped me to see the true nature of gambling, instead of being manipulated into believing gambling is totally good or totally harmful. I didn't have any issues by being a child and watching such contents on those times, although I think if the TV show is just promoting gambling, it should be avoided by children, because they can be manipulated and develop a wrong approach towards it futurely.

Of course it would be better not being shown in television where kids would be able to access as well or get their interest with but that's just how marketing works for any industry. Whether the child would be engaging to such activities or not, depends on how he would be taught of such things also. This has been long happening but does not correlate that much with gambling interest to young people although it would somehow contribute.  Contents are the ones that should be regulated; not encouraging or without any disclaimer of the risks involved in gambling.Those games are just related but not really a form of gambling despite of testing one's luck. "Players" of these games on television would just either lose the tendency of winning the money but they won't be charged from losing unlike with actual gambling game wherein a counter bet is present that could result into actual loss. But indeed true, the concept is from gambling on these games.

I agree. Many of them are actually inspired by gambling games. Aside from the game that OP said, and that's the first one that came to my mind, the Wheel of Fortune is one of their kind and it can be compared and the same type of slots or roulettes. Because they're all based on luck upon playing those games although as a game show, there is some catch with the WOF to make the game playable, fun, and easy for the audience that will participate from it. I guess most of the gameshow that we know of have been inspired or have got that theme that came from gambling, casino games.

I think it's not good for children to watch TV shows that combine casino games because it can introduce children to gambling. Although there are no striking elements about casinos, betting will be seen and can introduce them to gambling. If I had children, of course I would divert them, either by inviting them to play or changing the show they are watching because prevention is certainly better.

However, if there are no bets on the show, it might not be gambling, because when there are bets made, such as money, it can be called gambling. Or maybe when they watch the show, we need to accompany them, the purpose of which is under parental supervision. However, currently I often see TV shows that invite many people to play and they can choose if they are lucky enough to be chosen to be players and there is a chance to get prizes in the form of money, motorbikes, electronic devices and others, but whether those on the show enter by spending money or not, and I can't think whether it's gambling or not.

That's Eat Bulaga if I am not mistaken, right?

When I first saw it, I was also surprised that now they are using a game that came from a gambling game. But I would not worry too much about this because even the popular NBA is also using these games during timeouts or halftime. I bet most of us have seen it one or two times already where they play hi-lo to give the autographed photo of a player as a prize.
But because the Philippines is a religious country, yes, it might look bad and it might not be a great idea to input this kind of game in a noontime show which is supposed to be a family show too. Well, the days are changing, there's so much gambling in our country nowadays.

You know most of these games is what actually gives you the edge to understand it more better while playing it even though it is not a gambling but at some point when you are used to read then you can place bet on those games in a casino.
Even those games that people play in a casino are some kind of games they play physically and once they got used to it they can play it in the casino and also earn money from it that is to say they will place bets and start playing it, winning is very sure for them than those who are not playing those games when they saw it in the casino it will be very very strange for them to place on them and start playing it.

It's surprising to see they allow such show in noontime instead of midnight.

I still remember when I was young, all of adult programs e.g. cigarette, alcohol, sexual medicine etc are in midnight.

But, if the broadcasting stations didn't remove that show and there are not much people in your country force them to take down the show, it means people don't mind to see their children get into gambling?

Times change. Back in the early days of TV you wouldn't see thing like a girl kissing a girl, or hear someone cursing every other word, or much gambling besides maybe some cowboys in a saloon playing poker.

What I am trying to say is, life isn't the same for kids as it was when we grew up. Society and what is viewed as ok has changed. So instead of asking is it ok for children to see such stuff, you might ask are you educating your children as to the dangers of gambling. Are you teaching them that they don't and won't always win? It's not necessarily bad for kids to see gambling, they just need to understand what they're watching and know it's not all sunshine and rainbows.

I don't know, but if we look at every game show, then there is some kind of hidden objective there, it's competition already and you will have to win the price and bet others. So that's already a very definition of gambling. But I doubt that this is the agenda of the said aforementioned game show. Maybe it's for pure entertainment and it's really up to the parents if their kids are watching to explain everything and that is not gambling, but the shows wanted to gain ratings and so they are throwing big money in a game contest to attract viewership for them and to get a lot of sponsorship in their show.

HiLo is a universal game, you can play it without any bets and it will be just a card game between friends. When I was younger I used to play cards often. I like card games, many of them, and I think that kids nowadays should play more card games & have fun together rather than hanging on their smartphones all the time.

So not every card game, or any other game, has to be gambling and be viewed through the eyes of a gambler. I understand that every gambler sees an opportunity for a bet in everything, but that's another topic. In any case, sooner or later our children will encounter gambling and I guess we will be reasonable enough to explain nicely and introduce the child to the world of adults... it goes little by little, and we all went through it.

Well, if we are talking about programs on television, we can treat them as general entertainment. in fact, we have many types of Hi-Lo games if we had to review them, one of which uses a type of card playing device. This type of game can be played without having to involve money, like on your country's national TV show for example. In fact, there are many types of entertainment shows like the ones you mentioned in this thread, wherever the TV shows are.

So, I don't see this as exploiting gambling in general, especially children. Moreover, the concept is game entertainment on television, so most shows like this aim to entertain in general. in fact, we can play it without involving money as a bet. but because we like gambling, things like this are often associated with gambling. in fact, card entertainment is not just about gambling which involves money, as for the friend you brought to this thread, he actually likes gambling and ultimately applies it to online casinos.

In my country gambling is legal but there are heavy restrictions on advertising gambling related services even close to impossible via mainstream media so I am not sure or can relate to that gambling shown to everyone.

It maybe a good thing if they do with the intention of making awareness about gambling too or else it's nothing but too bad for the society, children should not be exposed to adult contents which is not only limited to gambling.

It's probably not a good idea to show television shows featuring casinos. If these games are made available to children, it could backfire. After all, children do not have developed critical thinking; much is incomprehensible and unknown to them. On the other hand, if we don’t talk about the casino. That is, there are other shows where money is used. I won't say the name of this reality show, but you can guess for yourself. A group of traders gathers there and buys abandoned garage boxes at an impromptu auction. At the same time, during the auction, traders outbid each other in a very interesting way...

Most of the games we see in casinos were not originally designed for gambling. Some games were designed for fun and entertainment. But it becomes gambling when you stake money on them with the hope of winning. Incorporating such games might lead children to gamble but the chances are low.

Majority of children who had gambling problems were attracted not by fun but profit making. We cannot stop our children from viewing games that can entertain and even educate them. My opinion is that these games should continue to be showcased but the organizations should also come up with means to discourage them from practicing these games in casinos. Maybe they can come up with a slogan like " play these games for fun and not for money". This could help to reduce the effect of such game exposure on children.

Exactly so, and this topic is very carefully ignored. I am still surprised that betting advertisements are shown on the main federal channels in my country. They banned casinos, but betting was almost everywhere. Presenters seem to talk about it randomly in sports programs, many of which have unobtrusive but well-thought-out advertisements. And I can imagine how difficult it is for those who want to get rid of their gambling addiction. It must be incredibly difficult for them.

I believe the objective of the show is to stimulate people with a hidden gambling habit to gamble and go back to their addiction, for those who are trying to sober up. This is hidden programming often present in advertisements and campaigns.

The important thing is to be able to identify this and control it.

Of course they will never publicly show gambling happening and for kids this is just a plain guessing game. It might not have that impact on kids but mainly on adults like I mentioned above.

Am of the school of thought that believes that early exposure of our kids to such TV shows will give them a more intelligent life towards making money and spending it as well, because they know there is loss and gain in it, it makes these kids be more focused in a particular career and there won't be any new thing to see if they happen to come across such casino games when they grow up and have mingled with the world.

The power gambling has in today's world comes from the fact that many people have painted it bad because they have no control or discipline over it, they have never really known the ills of over gambling, they have been exposed to it at a time when they encountered financial difficulties and see it as a holy grail, thus they indulge themselves anytime they have such opportunities and see it as a fast way out of poverty.

It’s just a regular game if there’s no money involved though but I will be bothered knowing that it’s game use for gambling while my children watch it but not to the point that I’m against it.


TV show usually has a rate to guide viewers for minors. If they marked it properly and there’s no gambling involved then I will be fine.

There are many countries in which advertising of the game is prohibited, or is only allowed at night, when children are sleeping. I basically agree with that.

I feel there should be regulations on some TV shows that everybody watches, not everything is supposed to be proper for advertisement on these shows because of underage that may be introduced to some habits.


This is also a reason why it is necessary to be aware of the TV shows and programs that your children watch, it is not possible to guide your children against exposure to what gambling is because if they are not introduced to it on TV, their friends will introduced it to them. But it is possible to educate them properly that they do not become addicts even though they become exposed to it. Hiding the truth about something from children does not always help them.

I believe that anythings that are not connected to the casino is not gonna to attract people to play casinos with those type game.

Like the show you are mentioning, while they are showing (HI-LO) card games. Did they show the audience for gambling? off course not right, it's just related into the show (entertainment) people who are watching 98% just think as usual it's game show (not even think related into casino or gambling).

Unless the person who watch those it's like you (casino player) you will think instantly those game is casino games, because you have history playing or watch those in casino meanwhile other people it's not.

If you think about it, many games that originated from tv were purely luck based and involved money. It's very close to gambling. Games like the deal and wheel of fortune are the very definition of gambling as there is very little skill involved and almost no strategy. It's pure chance and luck.

So I'd say what you're worrying about in the original post is already a reality. TV didn't wait for casinos to become popular to steal their games. They just started projecting gambling as family friendly games to everyone anyway. Now casinos are actually copying TV games like wheel of fortune and the deal because naturally fans of this games are liking to gamble with money also and it's a good combination to deliver mass gambling too... So it's already a reality. Even monopoly which is a child friendly game has many licensed slots etc.

I think that when a TV has a program that shows a game that can be played in a casino, the TV program puts up a warning saying that the game is prohibited for minors, so the TV program cannot be held responsible in case a child is going to play that game in a casino. TV shows also have age restrictions, but when we research how many families actually comply with these age restriction rules on TV shows, we will probably see that it is a very low number. If we look at the world today, children under 10 years old watch TV programs dedicated to children over 13 years old and for children over 16 years old.

Also nowadays, children under 10 years of age already have cell phones that they use to watch anime that are made for children over 16 years of age, they also play video games that are intended for children over 16 years of age. By this I mean that our society is no longer very strict when it comes to age restrictions, parents have become very liberal or very careless. So when TV programs warn about age restrictions, they are already part of it, and parents must also do their part by constantly checking what their children are doing on the internet, on the phone and on the computer

A game becomes a gamble when money is involved and a winner and looser emerges. If people enjoy games that are played in the casino at home or in any events where money is not involved then it can not be classified as gambling. People play card games and others plays different types of games on their mobile phones for fun, even the kids are not left out in the games, that is not gambling. Most kids wouldn't know that they can play these games to win or lose money, unless they're told about gambling

But I get the OP's point, some adults who knows about gambling can be enticed to go visit a casino, after watching the variety show. Fact is that people are reminded by what they see, that is the essence of advertisement, so seeing some casino games on a none gambling show can ignite the feelings to gamble.

I've seen shows like that when I was young and I thought of it as a simple game. But as I grow up, I have come to understand that it has been derived from an actual game as you've said, the hi-lo game. I think the concept has changed based on the setup and theme of the TV show and that's why it doesn't look like as if it's a gamble game. There's no stake for the player and they only need to guess the number whether it is high or low.

But the actual game does requires us to gamble and that's make it gambling. IMHO, we can distinguish it as a giveaway because there's the game and there's nothing for the participant to stake any money but only the game and the participation that they need to allocate to the game/TV show. Other than that, we have our own judgement whether we'd see that as a gambling game that's being telecast on national TV.

Because if the TV agency and the government department that monitor it sees something wrong with it, they won't approve that show to be broadcasted.

I don't know the show you're talking about, but if that show also explains that gambling is related to the game, I think it's very possible that the audience watching the show can feel attracted to gambling just to practice what has been discussed in the show. But if the show doesn't relate to gambling but rather only games, there's no way it can attract the audience to gamble because many people can just easily play the game to have fun, without the aim of using it for gambling.

That will not be better to show something that related to gambling in the noontime where children can watch freely. That can makes them curious and for some of them will find out more by visiting the casino or search it on the internet. Teenagers can search many things from the internet and they will know that is a gambling and makes them start to playing gambling.

That can makes the number of people who playing gambling will increase and difficult to control because they will see that gambling is one way to make money. They can keeps trying to make money from gambling and can becomes addicted to gambling if they don't have self control and other things. If a show related to gambling wants to entertain their audience, it is better they do that in a night when children already sleeps and will not watch it.

The most likely thing is that shows and other similar industries have probably already implemented their own restrictions when it comes to certain topics. Now if they let it go, it means that either A, it's actually ok content, B, they had a rated age warning at the start, which is a parent's responsibility now, or C, it's not really considered gambling at all, and people are just overreacting. There's only so much companies can do to restrict gambling related content while allowing it, since the next step from there is probably just outright banning it which a lot of companies are probably not willing to since it's, well, profit.

And honestly, if it's simple games like Hi/Low it's probably simple enough to not consider it as a gambling game. Probably in these cases as long as it isn't outright a "gambling scene", then it'd pass reviews.

To protect children from content shown on television and the Internet, you need to get rid of all such gadgets. But who, tell me, will do this in our time? There is a lot of other harmful information that children's minds see as soon as they begin to distinguish speech, so I do not think that such a show can harm children; in extreme cases, there is always the opportunity to distract the child with another activity.

It's the same game that we have seen in arcade, games that we thought are just for kids and for entertainment only, but they have found it's way to the casinos as well. For me, it's a subtle way to really introduce gambling to the public specially for our children. At first look it could be very harmless, but when our children see in the malls or in the arcade, it could have somewhat unknowingly putting in their mind that it is ok to play this kind of games specially if it involves money.

And then when they grow up, again not saying that our children are going to be addicted or what. But if we are being programmed in the young age, sooner or later, they might go and play. For us parents though, it's our responsibility recognize these risks, and educate our children.

Generally, I don't agree when games which can be played without betting is labeled as gambling games. There are traditional people who frown at card games because they consider them as gambling games. Some kids are asked to stay away from such games because they're more or less considered dirty games, games of money, which only adults can play.

This is the same with a simple high and low game which uses playing cards. There's nothing wrong with it. It's simply a game. It can be played purely for fun. It can be played without money involved. Everybody can enjoy that game, not just gamblers in casinos.

sometimes we underate the potential In children and assume they know nothing untill they open up and we get to know what they've known by mere observation. As much as I feel that depending on the age of the kids, some might outrightly not have the knowledge on certain gambling and even when the watch it on TV shows, they might not know what it is but the truth is that everything starts from a single point of almost zero knowledge. Some of them might not know a single thing about the show but once they have a first hand interaction with someone gambling, the image will flash back in Thier face and they will literally have a change of mindset towards the game.

Thier are certain things that shouldn't be allowed for the consumption of the general public and it's not just on the TV shows but I've seen back to back advert on my mobile Banking app that consistently tells me to stake games during the Euros via my mobile banking apps. Those kind of things are to be totally discouraged because someone that had to plan whatsoever of going into gambling can easily get lured into it and thier nothing worse that directly gambling from your mobile banking apps as it can easily lead you to become addicted. In summary, it's not just about gambling, the content our children watch in the TV have great effect on what they practice in real life so it's necessary that even as parents, we sensor some of those things.

Gambling in the country, where the show is being broadcast is legal; there are card games on parlour games and fiesta, so this is not new. If a person is inclined to gamble, he can be attracted to it and find a place to play games that attract him.
I watched the show almost every day, and it was a game of wit, strategy, and luck. The contestant is not betting anything, only his participation, so he is not really gambling. The show just wants to give money to the contestant in the tradition of If the price is right, so there is no illegal or bad on this. It's different if contestants are made to bet with their own money.

I find it problematic to introduce casino games such as Hi and Low card games into television programs that children can view. Although these games might be appealing and fun, infusing gambling components to an immature viewership can result in adverse effects. Young ones might lack a sophisticated appreciation of the perils associated with gambling and could easily be swayed into experimenting with wagering while still at tender ages.

The differentiation of content meant for pleasure and that which could stimulate negative conduct like gambling is significant. TV programs should be mindful of their influence on young audiences and opt for content that is informative and uplifting.

Typically, it is sensible for children-accessible TV shows not to integrate gambling features to prevent potential harmful habits later in life.

I think it's very dangerous if you talk about the potential impact that might occur and children will become vulnerable to gambling, games like that are certainly not good for children in my opinion because the problem will be very fatal, it may be true that there are some who are not affected but it is not impossible that of the many children who see it there are some children who want the game and or gambling.

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That's pretty scary even though it's a fairly logical approach, I think there really needs to be some more consideration considering that at 1:00 am some children are still awake and want to watch TV, in my neighborhood it's also like that, not a few small children stay up in the middle of the night.

But fortunately gambling in my country is strictly prohibited to be broadcast, even on social media, especially about broadcasting gambling games on TV, it is strictly prohibited and the TV channel can be banned.

Not that the popular TV noontime is advertising gambling sites or telling people to gamble. It is just about a game. I can be with friends and play Ludo for hours. We can play Chess that I have not seen on gambling sites before for over 5 hours because chess is addicting. I have not played roulette before but on gambling sites and no one thought me how to gamble with roulette because it is simple to understand. There are many games that are easy to understand. What I am trying to say is that because you are playing games with friends, that does not means you are gambling online. Also there are games that you will just know how to play because they are common in your environment. These games are also on gambling sites. Also there are some games that are online that you can know easily or through the demo or fun mode. If you want to gamble or bet, that did not have to do because you have knowledge about the game, it is because you just want to gamble. There are many games online that you do not have to learn before you can know how to use it to gamble. Examples are dice and roulette.

Participating in sports does not mean that you are gambling but there are still some football unprofessional players that gamble with the matches that they play, I have done this before in high school. Who also told you that assuming these professional footballers are not restricted from gambling that they will not gamble with the matches that they are involved. FIFA understands this and that was why there put the law. Playing cards can lead to one staking with cards because when he feels that he has known all the tricks in the game and how to win, he will have confidence to stake. Dice is the worst because I started gambling with dice rolling. It turns from game to gambling gradually.

You can see children playing dice, whot varieties and many other games that are in casinos today. If they are playing such games, that does not means that they are gambling. You can also see children that are playing football, table tennis and many sports that are very common in all countries but that does not means that they are on sportbooks and betting. This is not gambling or betting.

I think I agree with you. The least thing one would like to see is a child getting introduced to gambling because a show which is supposed to be suitable for all audiences. Because how widespread and common gambling has become on the internet, some children could see those games in the TV show, feel curious about it and search for them on the internet, ending up playing casino games. Granted, they may start playing those games with fake money but eventually could find a way to get an account on an actual online casino, not even mentioning that there are several casinos which allow people to register and deposit with little or no KYC process, those children and teens will only be stopped in the case of withdrawing.

The problem is that what if these children are left alone at home and stumble into this show because it is not everybody that uses parental guidance control. It will be better that children don't watch such show since it can trigger them into gambling, especially nowadays that casinos ads are everywhere and influencers promoting casinos. Children might watch this show and decide to gamble with these card games. I am not going against the show but we should be careful of what we watch on TV when our kids are around do that it does not have a negative impact on them.

Well, first of all if the kids play a simple card games that does not involve money then it is not gambling. They are many offline and online card games that children play and it is perfectly fine.
By the way, if you say that a TV show or program has PG rating than it should not be seen by kids without parents involvement. I mean it is the duty of parents to tell children about casinos and the everything the children should know, so such shows aren't have bad impact on the mind of the children.

Although he said it is a game, I'm interpreting that he meant it is gambling.

In my country, TV channels aren't allowed to broadcast programmes or commercials about gambling before 01:00 AM. I don't know if that's the best approach, but I have gotten used to it and it is true that less vulnerable people is impacted by these ads being it so late. The bad thing is that from that hour on it is almost impossible to see anything else on free TV channels apart from gambling related content.

I completely see nothing wrong with a TV show incorporating games that can be played on a casino; into their show, as long as on the show, those who were or are shown playing that game, are not actually exchanging money for it, which is what gambling is.

As I was growing up as a kid, I watched a lot of TV game shows which I extremely enjoyed, many of such games is what we play on casino today, and while watching those shows as a kid, it never influenced me to want to gamble, in fact, I didn't even have any slight idea that such games can be played on some casinos to win money.
I grew up as an adult, and I can tell you categorically that what influence me much more to start gambling was promoting gambling casinos on this forum through my signature ad.

Kids doesn’t have any idea what casino is and what’s the game inside of it unless the show involves money during their live performance of casino games then it’s the only time it will become a problem.

A simple card game or any casino games can’t be considered as bad or gambling if there’s no money involved. There’s a difference between adult and children audience on how they will take the show that’s why this kind of show rated PG in every country.

I know the name of the show but will prefer not to mention it, I believe this is not a permanent segment of the show and will soon be replaced, but yes, many people are enjoying it including me, Since gambling is legal in that country, this is not something new, we have seen card games on many places and occasions.

If there are children watching, they should be guided by parents, the show is on parental guidance rating, so there's nothing alarming, What's alarming are the the prime time night shows where there's a lot of killing

You said it is a game. Which means it is not gambling. No need to bring this topic if it is not about gambling because there are many games in casinos today that I can play with friends at home or at a friend home and enjoy without using the game to gamble.

Why I created this thread: There is a popular TV noontime show that incorporates casino games like card games Hi and Low in their show, this game excites my friend who ended up playing in a local online casino because of the attraction in the card game that was introduced in the noon time show.

Do you think it is good that a show that children can watch incorporates games you can only see in casinos, it might end up introducing gambling to their audiences.

What's your opinion on this? I hope the name of the show, if you happen to know it, will not be mentioned, as the topic was created to be a general topic, not an attack on a particular show.

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