Topic: What Happened to All The Money You Donated to Officer Wilson? (Read 1393 times)

The other expert who claimed to be a doctor but wasn't is the one that suggested it was possible that one arm wound could have come from behind if MB turned suddenly to face DW. If you watch the presser it seems an unlikely scenario based on Badens response and if you listen to the audio the fbi has of the gunshots that scenario seems even more unlikely. None of the wounds to his arm would have caused him to drop or stagger but the wound to the forehead would and it was immediately followed by the final shot thru the head.

And here it is again.  The expert says injuries are consistent with charging or surrendering.  Why be dishonest if you believe Wilson to be guilty?

Thank you!
There is also an eyewitness who says MB was stumbling forward and going to the ground after being shot several times, and that is when the kill shot to the top of the head was delivered.  

To further add to the facts that Baden supplied, his scenario to explain the wound to the lower arm was that his arm was up and across his forehead and the bullet that entered the arm exited into the forehead, then exited from the chin and entered the body again. He never suggested that wound or any other wound came while MB had his arms out and hands up in the surrender position.

Dr Baden's post-mortem examination found Brown was shot a total of six times, with four bullet wounds in his right arm and two in his head.

The final shot appears to have entered Brown's head at the top of the skull suggesting his head was bowed down at the time.

'This one here looks like his head was bent downward,' he said of the wound at the top of Brown's skull. 'It can be because he’s giving up, or because he’s charging forward at the officer.'


http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2727568/Autopsy-reveals-Michael-Brown-shot-SIX-times-confrontation-police-officer.html


What concerns me about this conversation, is that it's been had, with quote supplied, many times already.

So give us your theory of the kill shot in the top of the head.  Going to stick with the charging-like-a-bull scenario?Say it...you still making your monthly tithe to the Church of Glenn Beck?

Seriously, IF Brown had a juvenile record that included violent crime, and IF his parents and others that might have known about it held him out as though he did not, it is reprehensible.  I know all parents love their children, but IF they allowed all the violence and destruction to continue without comment, that is just an awful reflection on them and on their community, and smacks of racism.

Missouri Court Further Clarifies: No Arrest Record for Michael Brown, Juvenile Records Remain Sealed
http://www.ijreview.com/2014/09/174157-missouri-court-clarifies-arrest-record-michael-brown-juvenile-records-remain-sealed/
Following up on a breaking news story last week regarding a lawsuit filed by journalist Charles C. Johnson to release any possible juvenile arrest records of Ferguson shooting victim Michael Brown, NBC News reports that there are no adult convictions or serious juvenile convictions for Brown:

    A Missouri court official said Wednesday that Ferguson police-shooting victim Michael Brown was never convicted of a serious A-level or B-level felony as a juvenile and was not facing any charges at the time of his death, the St. Louis Post-Dispatch reported Wednesday. It’s unknown if he was ever charged with any lesser offenses.

     

    The newspaper is one of two media outlets that went to court to force the release of any juvenile criminal records that might exist for the 18-year-old killed Aug. 9 by a police officer. The court has not decided whether to release the full record, but the official did give a few details during the hearing.

I believe that in the US, you are allowed to defend yourself with a weapon, if you are robbed or attacked during a home invasion. The same case here. Michael Brown tried to attack a police officer, who received serious facial injuries as a result of the attack. The officer had the right to defend himself against the attacker, and he did just that.

There was more $ raised for the cop LMAO BAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAH just goes to show people love to be enslaved..  Perhaps a bunch of people should move to China or Iran.

Do you have a source on the "surrender mode"? I know that unreliable witnesses have said this but there is also a lot of evidence this was not the case. For example the police offer had sustained several injuries while fighting with him. The injuries were severe.

Too many second hand information. The case will drag on for months.

Unarmed? May be. But what about the store robbery he committed a few hours before the incident?  Weighing close to 300 pounds, he didn't needed a weapon to rob the store apparently. And the facial injuries received by officer Wilson is a proof that Brown tried to overpower him. I don't think that the medical examiners certified that he was shot after he surrendered. From what I've read, only the eyewitness (the guy who took part with him in the robbery) claimed that he was shot after he surrendered.

There is no EVIDENCE that he was in 'surrender mode'.  That is purely wishful thinking on your part.

You are  judgmental , and a biased, whilt-guilt driven, intolerant bigot.

I'll donate to your one-way transportation, provided you sign a waiver that you will never return.

Hmmmmmm...I cannot believe that someone would contribute that much money for someone who may have perpetrated a murder. Brown was not only unarmed, but, according to medical examiners, he appeared to be in surrender mode when the 6 ft. 4 inch tall young man was shot on top of his head, killing him.

You don't suppose that the possible murderer got a step ladder to stand on to aim the gun over the top of Brown's head to shoot him from that angle, do you?

http://www.cnn.com/2014/08/23/justice/missouri-teenager-shooting/index.html

(CNN) -- Supporters of Ferguson, Missouri, Police Officer Darren Wilson say they have faced threats over their views, but vowed not to be silenced.

Wilson on August 9 shot and killed unarmed black teen Michael Brown, an incident that stirred racial tensions and unrest.

An unnamed spokeswoman for the Support Darren Wilson group, speaking at a rally Saturday, accused the media of having a bias against supporters of the officer.



"We believe this has only intensified the destruction of the community of Ferguson and the surrounding St. Louis areas," said the spokeswoman.

"We will not hide. We will no longer live in fear," she said. "We ask this question: Can justice ever be attained if one side's supporters are living in fear of speaking out?"

The spokeswoman said that she and her group were not speaking on behalf of Wilson or his representatives, but were making a statement for his supporters. She said she had received online threats against her and her family.

The money I donated?  You must be kidding!  I haven't donated to anyone's defense fund since I sent  $5 to Tammy Faye Bakker's Defense and Mascara fund.

 First you assume that because the websites are down that the money is gone, spent, no longer available. So do you have any proof the money is gone or is an allegation all you need to make that claim? Second, with the death threats against the fund raisers it would be logical to assume the sites were hacked, you know how that happens right? The left always threatens to destroy anyone that doesn't see things from the leftie view. And third why does Michael Brown need a defense fund? What charges is he facing? None that I know of since they don't usually charge dead people.  Fourth and most important, justice is served when the truth is presented and the laws applied equally to all. If MB bumrushed the cop after assaulting him then like it or not it was a justified shooting even if it did take 6 bullets to stop the threat against the officer. If that's what the evidence shows then justice is served for all. If the evidence shows Wilson flipped out and shot at a person who was not threatening his life then he will go on trial and be sentenced, that too is justice because in both cases the truth and the facts are presented and the law equally applied. Its just too bad that the left demands that the only possible justice is a guilty verdict for Wilson no matter what the evidence shows.

Fundraising Web pages for Ferguson cop still closed; it's unclear why


Organizers have remained silent on why donation pages raising more than $400,000 for the police officer who killed an unarmed black 18-year-old in Ferguson, Mo., were shut down without explanation over the weekend.

A related Facebook page has been deleting comments from those who raise questions about the accountability of the donations.

On the crowdsourced fundraising site GoFundMe, "Support Officer Darren Wilson" and "Support Officer Wilson" -- two separate pages with similar names -- raised $235,750 and $197,620, respectively, for the Ferguson police officer who shot Michael Brown on Aug. 9.

A similar page for Brown's family, run by the family's attorney, Benjamin Crump, had raised $316,194 as of Monday afternoon.

The shooting prompted weeks of unrest and demonstrations against the overwhelmingly white police force in mostly black Ferguson, sending Wilson into hiding as local and federal investigations seek to determine whether he wrongfully killed Brown.

The online donation campaigns have generated some controversy for defending Wilson, especially after some visitors left racially offensive remarks in at least one of the comment sections, which have since been removed.

Both pages appear to have stopped taking donations around the same time on Saturday, and as of Monday afternoon, the pages’ organizers have not explained why. If a visitor attempts to donate, a message appears that says: "Donations are Complete! The organizer has stopped donations."

In a statement provided to the Los Angeles Times on Sunday, a spokeswoman for GoFundMe said the website had not halted the donations.

"Each and every GoFundMe campaign organizer is able to decide for themselves when they would like to stop accepting donations," said the statement from GoFundMe spokeswoman Kelsea Little. "Organizers may also choose to begin accepting donations again at a later date."

The page "Support Officer Wilson," which raised $197,620, is run by a St. Louis police charity called "Shield of Hope," which has been certified by GoFundMe as a valid donation recipient.

The three officers listed on Shield of Hope's state nonprofit records are Joseph Eagan, Timothy Zoll and Jeffrey Roorda. Zoll is a public information officer for the Ferguson Police Department, Eagan is a city council member for nearby Florissant, and Roorda is a Democratic member of the Missouri House of Representatives who is running for state Senate. He is also a former police officer.

Roorda sponsored a bill in January that would keep police officers’ names secret if they were involved in a shooting unless they were criminally charged. That bill went nowhere.

Eagan, the president of Shield of Hope, told The Times in an email Monday that he had been traveling and that all public responses would be given by Roorda, the group's vice president. Neither Roorda nor Zoll has responded to Times requests for comment.

Roorda was fired from the police force of Arnold, a St. Louis exurb, in 2001. His superiors accused him of filing a false statement against a suspect in 1997 and against his own police chief when the chief declined to give Roorda paid paternity leave, according to Missouri court records.

Roorda responded at the time that he’d been unjustly fired, but he lost his appeals. He later became police chief of Kimmswick, another St. Louis exurb, and a business manager for the St. Louis Police Officers Assn. He now sits on the Missouri House’s public safety committee.

The Times also has been unable to reach the anonymous founder of the "Support Officer Darren Wilson" page, a user called "Stand Up," who has raised $235,750 and who has not been officially certified as a verified recipient on the donation page. GoFundMe's spokeswoman vouched for the anonymous donor in a statement to The Times, however.

In contrast with the other Wilson page and the donation page for Brown, little information has been given to donors about who is running the anonymous fundraising effort.

In a message to visitors two weeks ago, the anonymous Wilson fundraiser page wrote that it was working with Shield of Hope to become a verified recipient. That has not happened. The fundraiser also gave out a pseudonymous Gmail account to users seeking more information, but has not responded to a request to that account for comment.

In its statement to The Times, GoFundMe's spokeswoman said the anonymously run donation page had also been removed from its search results, adding that "this campaign no longer meets GoFundMe’s stated requirement of having a valid Facebook account connected."

GoFundMe's security policies encourage users to "only contribute payments to GoFundMe users they personally know and trust. ... Unfortunately there is no way to 100% guarantee that a user’s GoFundMe donation page contains accurate or truthful information."

But spokeswoman Little said GoFundMe "has been in contact with the campaign organizer and has no reason to question their  authenticity. Finally, GoFundMe does possess the ability to place a hold on all donations raised by any campaign that warrants further investigation."

Nevertheless, she said, GoFundMe did not place the hold.

A popular Facebook page that has been organizing pro-Wilson efforts, called "Support Officer Wilson," told followers this weekend that lawyers were working on a "solution" as to why the GoFundMe fundraisers had been shut down, but gave no more information. (The Facebook page is also run anonymously, and those remarks could not be independently verified.)

After The Times published a version of this story on Sunday, users who posted financial questions about the fundraisers said their comments were being deleted from the Facebook page. In fact, the comments objecting to the deletions were also deleted.

At one point over the weekend, the Facebook page also urged users to start a petition against the GoFundMe fundraiser for Michael Brown’s family.

http://touch.latimes.com/#section/-1/article/p2p-81232887/