Topic: What happened to my trust. Admins, help me please... (Read 723 times)

i don't have such buttom...can you make a screanshot please?

I agree with you, it's been a long discussion. My issue was resolved. How can I close this topic?

@SvetaIvanova
Scroll all the way down to the bottom of the page while you are logged in and click the button i circled.

Bounty abuse based on what assumption ?Where is the victim ?
Multi accounts suspected based on which assumption ?



So now you have added two taggs for your ego ?
Nearly 500 posts but 0 mertis.

You are the dumbest DT member i ever saw.Is there any guideline that a user needs to get merit else his posts will be counted as shitposts ?

The only shitpost i see is your comment.

You are a fucking IDIOT who has completly no plan about DT.You fucking don't even know the guideline and tagg people for your dumbass reason.

You are the living nightmare of a DT

Click "lock topic" (bottom left).

Since a pig like you doesn't deserve my help who is abusing the trust system himself.
A fucking racist sig spammer would be instantly banned by me.
You are the worst kind of member that forum needs.

Your racists posts are locked and will follow you

decent ?He clearly has an ego issue.
Its not his job to tagg shitposters .Clear instruction of theymos.
Don't know what his ego doesn't understand.Also his stupid comment that suchmoon is going to take the responsibility of the detagging if something happens.
WTF he thinks who he is ?Somebody clearly pissed him in his head.
So he was now so decent to find another BS claim and let keep a neutral tagg of something he completly has no evidence.

He is a fucking moron which soda already went into his brain.

Let him give one reasonable evidence that OP is an alt of somebody.
ONE REASONABLE EVIDENCE.

Or do you set new standards that DT's are now going to tagg massivly based on possibilities ?
If so tagg each user since on each 1/10 you will be right with your claims of being an alt.
The fact that you mistagged 9/10 is irrelevant since you got the 1/10.

You clearly didn't learned history as thats exectly what they did.

You know why the gasto was hated by the whole world ?Because it was the only unit in the world which was allowed by law to control people without any reason and tagg them without evidence.

You have the same practice here.

Crypto is of being decentralised and protecting EACH FUCKING MEMBERS RIGHTS the same way as it would be the president.
You clearly have no knowledge about crypto and its history and are just spreading garbage.


And it needs radical words as the previous nice explanation to him clearly didn't reached his ego.

Lol @ that Godwin point.

You seem to be thinking about Hitler a lot. My advice. Stop.
This is not relevant at all.

He had a human reaction because he was pissed about the shitposting of OP.

He agreed to change to neutral because he is decent, reasonable and able to put his ego aside. Can't really say the same about you.

This thread has gone on longer than it should have, and OP should lock it.

By the way, Thule--why don't you bitch to TECSHARE that he left me a horrible, unjust neutral feedback based on a disagreement we had?  Go ahead and check my trust page, it's there.

He has clearly an ego issue like many DT's .
He tagged op for shitposting .Not a single word about being a possible alt.
Now he had to remove that negative tagg and instantly found a new reason to add a neutral tagg as being a possible alt.
Reason ?OP talked to quickly about merit.

You know what it reminds me?Hitler time when people are not allowed to speak publicly about topics which level they don't represent or they will get marked.

Maybe we should start marking newbies who have knowledge about crypto or bounties ?
Its highly possible that these accounts are alts since how would a noob normly have any knowledge about crypto or that bounties exist at BCT ?
There is no world outside of BCT where they could get that kind of info.

You should learn to read.

He wrote suspected, which it is.
Also he put some evidence of his logic in this very thread.

Giving false accusations based on opinions ?
You think people from outside of bitcointalk are not talking about merit on other forums expecially in russia ?
If you start giving negative feedback even its shown as neutral its a clear abuse.
You have completly no evidence that this account is an alt.
In my opinion you should be removed as DT2 as you clearly have an ego issue to just remove the false tagging.

I guess good ol' suzanne was thinking to get a quick merit for that post.

You should read more carefully the OP I think...

Exactly. In this kind of situation the OP should be report or tell him to do the right correction not red trust cause that seems like placing ones above others.
It good the matter is solve though.

I think it's time for this thread to be locked.

We gonna keep an eye on you SvetaIvanova, low quality posters are allowed here but will be monitored.
Feel sorry for Saint-loup, I know exactly how he feels but sometimes, life give us lemons...
Hope the lesson is learned, the trust feedback cannot replace the moderators job.

Let's put an end to this case.

What's your depth setting? If it's 1 you're not going to see DT2.

Are you trying to use your trust as a bargaining chip? You shouldn't have left retaliation feedback in the first place!

Note that your account is now under scrutiny, don't break forum rules

Weird.
It appears to me even when adding ;dt.

You won't be, believe me.  No bounty manager is going to give one shit about a neutral left by a DT member.  If it ain't red, it ain't read. 

Told you this would be resolved in a (semi) satisfactory way.  Thanks for being reasonable, Saint-loup.

Why Saint-loup feedback's not visible to me by default even he is on DT2 . I had not excluded him. His feedback's showing to me on untrusted feedback's. Am I missing something ?

I can see also if add ;dt. But his feedback should visible by default to all member if did not exclude. Am I right ? So why not showing to me

This is a neutral review. He is expressing his opinion which he is entitled too based on the reference.

You won what you came here for, I wouldn't be pushing it.

Edit: also the review says "suspected".

I am myself convinced that you are an alt too.

OK
Done.

Seems like the bounty report posted in the french local board was the tipping point for Saint-loup.
I agree that those posts are quite annoying outside of the bounty section but surly they deserve way "better" treatment.

If it was me, I would remove my negative feedback and focus on the plagiarism, it's much better to get them banned completely.
Trust and feedback are for different occasions.  

This is the mod's responsibility , all what we are somehow morally obligated to do is report these incidents , i understand that your intention is to reduce low quality content, but sadly your tag does not accomplish it, the user will still be able to post whatever they want in the ANN section and now even in Meta because of the tag he got.

you spent the time to read his posts and seems like you were fairly confident that he is a spammer, i think if you reported a few posts of his or if you happened to find plagiarized content and reported those to the mods, he would have been already banned .

having said that, i still stand to my opinion that while this user might deserve to be banned, he does not deserve a negative at all, simply because he is not a scammer but rather a spammer.

Was going to say the exact same thing.

I'll throw in my 2 satoshis too: OP is a bounty spammer, but that seems to be accepted on the bounty boards. Even if it wouldn't be accepted, it's something Mods should handle, and not something that DT should tag.
Posting on the wrong board can happen to anyone if you use enough open tabs. Not moving it by yourself is dumb/spam, but still not a reason to tag it. I've reported 100 times more posts than I've tagged, which is how spam should be handled.

I was going to Merit OP for his post that's worth reading, until I read his first post was asking about Merit. I can't verify it though, after OP deleted many of his posts. I assume OP has more accounts, and uses them to spam bounties (just like many other or even all bounty spammers do), and I don't want to give OP a Jr. Member signature to spam with.

I was wondering this too, and it makes sense if OP has more accounts.

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TL;DR I think this shouldn't be tagged.

I will not argue for hours because I hate that.
If you think it's the best way to do, it's ok for me, I leave you the responsibility of the case.

That has nothing to do with his/her/it's trustworthyness unfortunately.

If you believe that account is an alt, you should tag it as an alt, not as a spammer.

I was interested in that, but did not write any word about my desire of getting merit

a controversial way to ask me out

I have answered already - for social media bounties
you might have marked me...because you were sure that i wouldn't do anything.

You're not a moderator though. Report shitposts to moderators, let them deal with it.

BTW @SvetaIvanova your history had 24 pages yesterday. 24×20=480 posts
http://archive.is/nO8QQ
Why suddenly it only has 18 pages and 350 posts now?
You did some housework today?  

You're lying. I read your first posts in russian with google translate and they are about what? Merits...
Which real brand new user is aware of merit?

Your second post google translated

So your storytelling is just a big lie. You're obviously a multi account just here to try to earn money by abusing bounty campaigns and flooding the forum, you're certainly not even a woman, it's my belief.
I never saw a newbie opening a thread in the meta section before you, btw.

Alex_Sr quoted the first rule of the forum :
"No zero or low value, pointless or uninteresting posts or threads."

So if you're not able to respect the first rule of this forum, I don't know why are you here?

Thank you very much for the recommendations, I really plan to make reviews in my native Russian language, and now I'm doing the work that I can. It's not my fault that reports are accepted by this way.
If the admins want to get rid of such messages on the forum, they can include one paragraph to the forum rules "all bounty reports, for example, are accepted through Google forms"

If I am not wrong,still his/her account can be nuked!

Because the user still newbie and not contributing much to the forum,which is can be enough reason to execute.

Thank you for tagging me suchmoon.

Even though I don't see any added value from OP to the forum the neg is a bit overzealous in my mind.

Saint-Loup will be notified as well by the notification bot. Let's see what he does.
I would recommend switching this one to neutral if he really wants to keep it there.

@OP
Can I ask you something, be honest. Why does someone who knows the word 'scoundrel' participate in social media bounties? The lowest type of bounties - quality wise. They generate enormous amounts of spam both on Bitcointalk and on social media. These bounties can get you banned on BT due to spam or in your case, red tagged, and you are also risking having your twitter account blocked since they have started to do that a lot in the last 5-6 months.
And in the end you get tokens that are maybe worth $15-20 depending on the success of the campaign.

Your name seems Eastern European, could be Russian or Bulgarian, your English is fine. Why not go for content creation, quality translations, those kind of things that wont generate such a huge amount of bounty reports and spam?

I hope you manage to sort out your issue with the red tag and change the way you do bounties.

Halab
JohnUser
asche

Are Saint-loup's "sponsors".

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=trust;full;dt

The trust system is not meant for forum law enforcement, such cases should be handled by "report to moderators".


exactly ^


apparently he might not be accepted in those b.s bounties with a neg feedback from a DT member.

It looks like Saint-loup is on DT2 by way of Halab, who is DT1.  Most of Saint-loup's reviews seem appropriate and contain references.  I can't help but agree with all of them, even his review of you is accurate.

@OP, PM Saint-loup and ask him to reconsider his review.  Point him in the direction of this thread.  I think most DT1 member would agree that his review of you seems petty, and is an abuse DT2 powers.

If Saint-loup won't reconsider you can ask Halab to remove him from his list.

ETA:

Thanks to everybody for your replyes. I just think, it is unfair to give me red trust for only one message, that was sent by mistake.

In fact, you abuse your right as a forum user by posting a lot of useless posts (and only them). Red trust is not appropriate here. More appropriate in this situation would be a ban under p.1

Thanks for informing community about the strange act of the DT. I wish he has a solid proof to Tag you (still don't see a valid reason for a RedTag) because shitposting causes ban, not negative trust.
You just use the account for social media reports, why you seem very upset for the negative trust? A RedTrust account can always post and participate in bounties.
I would confirm you that any issue related to trust will be solved (Thanks to other DT members and trust system) and i would also confirm to you that the bitcointalk forum is great bigger than just to use it for bounties. I wish you improve your existence here by helping others and enlarge your knowledge (forget about merit, you don't need to rank up to use the forum)

Why are you worried about trust then?

Don't get me wrong, I don't think red trust is appropriate here. I think you should have been banned after your first 3 useless one-liners. I'm just curious as to what your sense of entitlement is based on.

Well at least you are honest about it. Unfortunately for you, you don't put yourself forward as a desirable member with that statement, and I didn't read any more of your post. Hopefully your red trust will lead you to find some other method of bounty hunting, and the publicity from this thread may discourage others from starting.

Of course you could always reflect on the minimal earnings you will get from bounty spamming, and you could read the threads in this forum to learn of the myriad of more profitable alternatives.

Yep, that's true.  I don't know who Saint-loup is and wasn't aware he's on DT2, but hopefully he reads this and figures out that DT members shouldn't be tagging people just for shitposting--or not earning merits, which is what it says in his feedback.

OP might want to rethink that retaliatory feedback as well.

That's a bit melodramatic.  No one here can force you to do anything.  This guy is obviously new to DT2 and doesn't know better than to neg someone for stuff like this.  I suspect he won't remain on DT for long if he keeps doing it.

Edit:
Yeah, I don't know why I'm being so sympathetic.  However, if DT members start tagging shitposters it's going to be a free-for-all here, and there will be no end to the drama and chaos that would ensue.  It was decided (actually, decreed by Theymos IIRC) last year that doing it wasn't a good use of the trust system.

Well, theymos did say that he didn’t want DT users tagging others solely for shitposting. But you did neg trust him back for some reason?

Good afternoon, admins,

I am here at the forum with only one goal - to take part in social media bounties. If it would be possible to participate in the bounties without an account on bitcointalk, I wouldn't register any.

I've registered an account, because each participant is required to sign up. I've never set goals to communicate, write posts, get a
high rank. I've only been sending my reports to bounty branches as required by the managers.
It's not against the rules.

What happened to my trust then?

I've mistakenly placed the report not in the bounty topic, but in another thread, it really happened by mistake. In such cases, admins should only remove the wrong post and give user a warning, nothing more. I didn't get any warnings, I was just marked with a red trust.

Then I contacted the person who gave it to me. But this user cannot come to an agreement with me, his main argument is: "you have a lot of
messages and no merit. Improve the history of your posts and get merit»

Why should I change my goals in order to satisfy this scoundrel's thirst
for power?

I always place, I repeat once again, all my messages in the bounty branches, as required by managers.

I think that the red trust for posting bounty reports where they should be  -  is completely lawless, especially from the user from the trust list.

The act of the person who marked me is a real manifestation of intolerance, violation of the freedom of will and abuse.
He oppresses me, forcing me to write posts and receive merit. I see it as a violation of my personality.
This user exceeds his authority and uses the trust rating for wrong purposes.

Ask the admins and users in the trust list to draw attention to this injustice and to return me to neutral trust.

P.S. My problem was solved. I don't know how to lock this discussion. Please, stop swear each other.