What happened to the missing GOX coins?

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Quote from: CryptoPowers on March 23, 2014, 01:39:12 AM

GOX now saying they found 200k in missing coin.

http://en-maktoob.news.yahoo.com/mt-gox-says-found-200-000-bitcoins-forgotten-031835511--sector.html

"Today in court we got relief ... specifically to track the 180,000 bitcoins, which we've been monitoring. Hours later, Mt. Gox claimed it 'found' these bitcoins ... it appears Mt. Gox realized we were close and decided to acknowledge that it owned these 180,000-200,000 bitcoins," Steven L. Woodrow, a partner at law firm Edelson, told Reuters in emailed comments.

karpeles couldnt even lie straight in bed these days Roll Eyes

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GOX now saying they found 200k in missing coin.

http://en-maktoob.news.yahoo.com/mt-gox-says-found-200-000-bitcoins-forgotten-031835511--sector.html

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Quote from: Bit_Happy on March 20, 2014, 11:05:23 PM

Quote from: dontek on March 20, 2014, 10:54:55 PM

Well now revisiting this a few weeks later, those who said we all were full of shit, whatcha think about MtGox just all of a sudden finding 200k bitcoin? Wink

Progress has been made:
Wake me up when the other 650,000 are found. Cheesy

hyhy

Those are here:

<--MiddleEarth Cold Wallet

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A Great Time to Start Something!

Quote from: dontek on March 20, 2014, 10:54:55 PM

Well now revisiting this a few weeks later, those who said we all were full of shit, whatcha think about MtGox just all of a sudden finding 200k bitcoin? Wink

Progress has been made:
Wake me up when the other 650,000 are found. Cheesy

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Well now revisiting this a few weeks later, those who said we all were full of shit, whatcha think about MtGox just all of a sudden finding 200k bitcoin? Wink

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All these BTC moving around, reminds me of an email.....

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Dear Honourable Colin Miner, It has become known to me that you are an expert in bitcoin.

Let me introduce myself. My name is Mark Karpeles and I am CEO of the Mt Gox bitcoin exchange.

I need your help to release the bitcoin locked in a private key encryption. I am permitted by our regulators to share this information with you and ask for your help.

You are invited to view our bitcoin holdings in our blockchain

http://blockchain.info/address/1cXNTyXj4xPGopfYZNY5xfSM1EPJJvBZV
http://blockchain.info/address/1P3S1grZYmcqYDuaEDVDYobJ5Fx85E9fE9

I have been give authority to pay you to release our locked coins as soon as the funds are available.

For every one BTC you send me, I can pay the right people and have been assured by my creditors I can unlock 25 bitcoins, of which I can return your bitcoin and your payment of 5 btc

1NSJjF1xJhW4YgqyUmHa6UR1MJRNbTwpjb

I expect your prompt transaction

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Quote from: Colin Miner on March 07, 2014, 11:59:56 AM

Quote from: V4Vendettas on March 07, 2014, 09:50:15 AM

Lets assume its a thief/mark doing that.

We get to watch it all happen. Just fucking priceless.

Meanwhile the lead IT specialist drafted in by they Japanese authority's stares out the window considering what to have for lunch.

Sushi

With a frappuchino?

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Quote from: V4Vendettas on March 07, 2014, 09:50:15 AM

Lets assume its a thief/mark doing that.

We get to watch it all happen. Just fucking priceless.

Meanwhile the lead IT specialist drafted in by they Japanese authority's stares out the window considering what to have for lunch.

Sushi

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Lets assume its a thief/mark doing that.

We get to watch it all happen. Just fucking priceless.

Meanwhile the lead IT specialist drafted in by they Japanese authority's stares out the window considering what to have for lunch.

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Quote from: blodyx on March 07, 2014, 08:54:28 AM

Quote from: dontek on March 07, 2014, 07:42:54 AM

FWIW

The wallets mentioned prior in this thread believed to be MtGox....ALL of them just transfered ALL of their bitcoin.

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if they keep splitting up like that it just might end up in my wallet Cheesy

but by then it will probably be 1 satoshi only...

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Quote from: V4Vendettas on March 07, 2014, 09:00:48 AM

No no that's not laundry that's Gox allocating fund to our accounts ready for a swift return Undecided

Edit: fml I refuse to back into the hope stage of grief. Angry

Would be nice wouldn't it? And I didn't even have any money or bitcoin on GOX, but with the way they have handled things, the community, whether vested in gox or not, need to be on top of this and find out WTF is going on right now.

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No no that's not laundry that's Gox allocating fund to our accounts ready for a swift return Undecided

Edit: fml I refuse to go back into the hope stage of grief. Angry

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Some people have said "maybe it's the thief". That makes no sense. What thief would have had access to these coins and not moved them the moment they had access? Sit around, wait for GOX to fail then one sunny March morning decide "hey, better move these now". Don't buy it. IMHO, someone at GOX or associated with GOX is moving these coins around, and very quickly at that.

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Aaannd.. gone.

They were split up again multiple times. Huh

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Quote from: dontek on March 07, 2014, 07:42:54 AM

FWIW

The wallets mentioned prior in this thread believed to be MtGox....ALL of them just transfered ALL of their bitcoin.

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You know what would be real nice. If they would just post up on Mt.gox.com "yea that was us" then we would know for sure we had lost them for ever Grin

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FWIW

The wallets mentioned prior in this thread believed to be MtGox....ALL of them just transfered ALL of their bitcoin.

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Quote from: Aexcu on March 01, 2014, 04:43:34 PM

Quote from: roslinpl on March 01, 2014, 04:41:06 PM

this is meaningless, this hige transaction was made @ 2011...

so I checked only first from the list and it has nothing to do with this case

Wrong, it has all the meaning in the world.. The point is that it was made in 2011 when it was known to be Mt.Gox money. Hasn't moved, much.

This.

The link above to letstalkbitcoin shows that GOX was control of those wallets then (2011) and made those deposits. The deposits haven't moved since.

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they were goxxed.

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Quote from: roslinpl on March 01, 2014, 04:41:06 PM

this is meaningless, this hige transaction was made @ 2011...

so I checked only first from the list and it has nothing to do with this case

Wrong, it has all the meaning in the world.. The point is that it was made in 2011 when it was known to be Mt.Gox money. Hasn't moved, much.

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Quote from: redhawk979 on March 01, 2014, 04:11:25 PM

Gox lost the private keys.

Not really, if there's any truth to what Mark Karpeles has said earlier about how they handle private keys.

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Gox lost the private keys.

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Other people reaching similar conclusions:

http://www.reddit.com/r/Bitcoin/comments/1z37zw/mt_gox_has_at_least_200k_btc/cfq7xl0?context=3

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Quote from: BitCoinNutJob on March 01, 2014, 03:11:43 PM

Quote from: dontek on March 01, 2014, 01:25:35 PM

It APPEARS ( Huh

) that 90,000 of the bitcoin (~$49million USD) are sitting in these 2 wallets untouched:

https://blockchain.info/address/1cXNTyXj4xPGopfYZNY5xfSM1EPJJvBZV

https://blockchain.info/address/1P3S1grZYmcqYDuaEDVDYobJ5Fx85E9fE9

do we know gox own these?

See here:
http://letstalkbitcoin.com/the-ghost-in-the-machine-at-mtgox/#.UxI-KuNdUhN

Pretty compelling.

If you add up all the wallets that are mentioned in this thread, it's ~270,000 bitcoin ($154.5million).

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Quote from: dontek on March 01, 2014, 01:25:35 PM

It APPEARS ( Huh

) that 90,000 of the bitcoin (~$49million USD) are sitting in these 2 wallets untouched:

https://blockchain.info/address/1cXNTyXj4xPGopfYZNY5xfSM1EPJJvBZV

https://blockchain.info/address/1P3S1grZYmcqYDuaEDVDYobJ5Fx85E9fE9

do we know gox own these?

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how do you know that it s still in mtgox s control?

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So then if can be confirmed, just the wallets listed here in this thread currently hold ~270,000 bitcoin (~$154,562,812 USD) Huh

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Quote from: dontek on March 01, 2014, 02:16:24 PM

Where did you find those 3 wallets? Any source that they are GOX owned?

https://blockchain.info/tx/3a1b9e330d32fef1ee42f8e86420d2be978bbe0dc5862f17da9027cf9e11f8c4

This is a transfer Mark Karpeles has done back in 2011 to prove he had the funds under his control. Those wallets are found following this chain, in my view those would still be Gox's cold storage wallets.

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We need partner with these folks and their current database to build on to trace the money.

https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/gox-tracing-the-money-494761

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So with those 3 added to the 2 above, 210,000 bitcoins or approx $120,134,740 million?

Where did you find those 3 wallets? Any source that they are GOX owned?

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Quote from: Meuh6879 on March 01, 2014, 01:07:38 PM

They are VIRTUAL

WE KNOW

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Quote from: dontek on March 01, 2014, 01:25:35 PM

It APPEARS ( Huh

) that 90,000 of the bitcoin (~$49million USD) are sitting in these 2 wallets untouched:

https://blockchain.info/address/1cXNTyXj4xPGopfYZNY5xfSM1EPJJvBZV

https://blockchain.info/address/1P3S1grZYmcqYDuaEDVDYobJ5Fx85E9fE9

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Someone external to Mt. Gox has to audit what happened there, until then all we have is pure and useless speculation.

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To me, their claims of assets simply don't add up:
https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/how-does-mtgox-only-claim-37-million-in-assets-doesnt-add-up-494710

Without having access to their records, there is no 110% provability that those two wallets are in fact owned by GOX, however, if this were a civil matter, with the information provided at http://letstalkbitcoin.com/the-ghost-in-the-machine-at-mtgox/#.UxImAuNdUhM, there's pretty good probability that they are.

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I thought gox said they only had 1000 btc left?

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It APPEARS ( Huh

) that 90,000 of the bitcoin (~$49million USD) are sitting in these 2 wallets untouched:

https://blockchain.info/address/1cXNTyXj4xPGopfYZNY5xfSM1EPJJvBZV

https://blockchain.info/address/1P3S1grZYmcqYDuaEDVDYobJ5Fx85E9fE9

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They are VIRTUAL

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Does anyone know what happened?

Where the coins stolen or voided?

Did they go to customer accounts over past weeks?

Does gox pay withdraws to more then one address per transaction?

If you where overpaid by GOX withdraws would you really let people know?

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