Topic: What happened to Yoshie? (Read 1300 times)

I'm going to cock this one up to "bad word choice".

Be that as it may, alts are fine.

It's good too see that YOSHIE logged in. I know that's normal thing in life when peoppe decide to stop using forum and they don't have to post message that they are leaving forum. But for me it's worrying thing when active member just stop logging in one day and disappear mysteriously. Especially considering in what strange times we are living.
Any way, YOSHIE aren't obligated to explain what happened to him, it's his personal life. I think that question is resolved and probably it's right time to lock topic.

It doesn't really matter how many accounts they have - as I said to one - they'll never become a "Legendary" member of the Forum having established themselves with honest discussions.  They just can't do it.

How many accounts do you have?

Seems to me like somebody got a red tag from Yoshie and are piping mad about it. At least one person, maybe two (given whoever was behind the recently-banned bpip.org account is not the same person).


Perhaps, depending on how the feedback is worded. But I would say this account is clearly not not untrustworthy and advise nobody make deals with them, lol.

The argument could be made that this person has dishonest intentions and behavior which would likely be carried over to a trade setting, and this risk should be made public via red tag.

In any case, this is a disrespectful thread and a general abomination of decency and common sense.

Yes he does.

Lol, this is getting ridiculous. Even if he posts documents, how would you ever know "YOSHIE" ownes them? I doubt his passport will show "YOSHIE" as a name.
Do you think "Loyce Valenzuela" has documents too?

Yes, He is YOSHIE. Now prove to me that the current YOSHIE is fake YOSHIE.
What are the problem if the story becomes false? Is YOSHIE scam anyone or he abuse the forum or trust system?

Why he should reply on the troll thread? He could talk to me because we are good friends.

Documents would be fake and why it's necessary to post personal documents on the forum?


Here you go...   https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/clarification-yoshie-5325469

If this is true about Yoshie, and I believe Coolcryptovator words, than I truly wish him good health and speedy recovery.
His forum contribution so far was very good and I hope this will continue in future.

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Thank God that we have our very own BatWomen in forum to watch on us and protect us from all evil trust abuse.
I feel much safer now.

No matter what this is about and what turns out to be in the end, all those who left negative feedback to Fact Finder or anyone else because you think he is a troll, stupid or making up absurd stories should know that this is completely wrong use of the Trust system.

For what you do, other DT members should now exclude you from their Trust list - if they want the system to work the way how it is set by @theymos.

Let me immediately say that I have nothing to do with any accounts in this thread, much less to use alt accounts for things like this.

I did the same thing: ~Fact Finder

Already did the same thing to the troll OP some weeks ago: ~No HATE

...and have decided to unwatch this thread

You got it all wrong here. YOSHIE doesn't have to do squat! Is that's what we are going to do from now on every time someone goes AWOL for a couple of months?


So according to you, YOSHIE should dox himself just to prove that story he told to @Coolcryptovator  is true? Don't be ridiculous. No one with their right mind would do something like that. 

Thank you Timelord2067. I was also surprised to see the excitement about the absence of YOSHIE, from the account that had slept for exactly a year and came to the forum to ask about the absence of YOSHIE. And as you can see, there was no answer. Unsurprisingly, everyone who is marked with YOSHIE will be happy about any setbacks in one way or another.
For my part, I know that YOSHIE is reading this thread, I want to support him and wish him a speedy recovery. Get well soon buddy. The forum needs such people.

Done.

You will know what is the reason I don't use the main account. Due to the fact that some of the current dt is very easy to blame its power for tag other users who do not fit into its thinking. Their neutrality is eliminated, so they are free to do whatever they want. Only a fool thinks that the facts someone reveals are part of the troll. You and YOSHIE are two equally stupid users and it is very possible that you are even more stupid than YOSHIE because you believe it without being able to verify the certainty of the story and that you are potentially being scammed.

Facts remain facts and you know what YOSHIE revealed in the forums before he was inactive for a few days?

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Now, prove to me that the current YOSHIE is the real YOSHIE.

Are you sure that all the stories told are true stories?

Why does YOSHIE never say anything in this thread when he can talk to Coolcryptovator via his new telegram and send 2 tag on my profile?

Password changed, telegram changed, wallet changed and I am sure that the story would be very believable if all of this could be proven by YOSHIE himself with documents from his hospitalization as did Phinnaeus Gage before his death.

Now tell me why you never doubted the authenticity of the story that YOSHIE? He can't sign messages but he can use his hands to post two feedbacks on my profile and reply to chats Coolcryptovator him via telegram?

Never suspect that you are a very stupid person who easily believes something that cannot be proven and never admits the fact when a friend of yours is appointed as a guilty suspect.

Since the first time I have told all of you that I am not a person who hates YOSHIE and its contribution to this forum. I just wanted him to reveal the fact that whatever I suspected about him was wrong. Prove me guilty because I want everything about him to be okay?

All of this is not for me, but all of this is a form of concern for all of you who very easily trust someone who cannot verify himself. YOSHIE is YOSHIE, but YOSHIE is not YOSHIE if he cannot sign this message.
You know what I mean, but you never want to admit it.
Don't show your strength if you don't know how to use it properly. Also, never judge me wrong if you don't know the truth yourself.

Pretty simple, the thread was created just for a troll. What does make difference if a user becomes inactive for a month or two if there is no something suspicious at all? As I told you before, this forum isn't everything in life. There is a real-life out of this forum and anything would happen that we are unaware of.  It doesn't mean anything. Most likely OP has some issues with Yoshie and that's why he has created this thread. Yoshie didn't reply on this thread because he believes that is just a troll and he shouldn't respond to the troll. He will start scam/spam busting when he fully recovered.

Locking thread would be better to avoid more troll.

Well I hope YOSHIE is alright. Maybe the speculation is not good for him if he wants some time out, this thread should be locked as LoyceV said.

I've had one of my previous posts in this thread deleted by a mod for no apparent reason.

Thanks goes to Coolcryptovator for making contact with Yoshie and I wish him well & a speedy recovery.

Most may not have noticed Yoshie has responded via Trust Feedback on Fact Finder's trust feedback page:

Many thanks to Coolcrptovator for taking out time from your schedule to contact YOSHIE in a bid to clear this all up (not that it was necessary for OP to meddle into his whereabouts), but it is what it is, unfortunate/unforseen things can happen to us everyday, one can only hope that we learn from it and move on stronger. From his posts, YOSHIE strikes me as a strong person, thus I know and hope he'll be fine in no time.

Having said that, YOSHIE merited this post without actually commenting, that can only mean he is telling us what coolcrptovator said is apt/correct (thus the thread can be shut/locked for now) and that he prolly needs time to get himself back, and I'm pretty sure he'll make a thread with a full description of the events that befell him when he feels much better.

I did not expect this to happen  Accidents are the real bastards  His situation and me seem similar, luckily he is still alive and able to talk to you. He can answer which means things are not too bad (except he will have to spend a lot of money), hope he can get well soon and come back here.

Now we can put an end to all speculation about his account 

Just now most probably I talked with Yoshie via Telegram. But it wasn't on the previous Telegram that we had talked. I asked him to sign a message from his staked address and he will do when he is fine. Although he used a new Telegram to talk with me, but he has remembered what we talked about last time on the Telegram. We have talked about two issues and he explained to me both clearly. According to him, He was injured in a car accident and all of his devices included mobile and laptops. And he isn't recovered fully yet. About Telegram username, he was used a disposable number over the internet and that's why he used a new Telegram username with the same avatar as previous. So he had been recovering all his accounts and changing passwords including his wallets. According to him still, he is fine with the lent amount from shasan.

Anyway, if the story is true, I wish him all the best. I hope he will recover very soon and come back to the forum.

Conclusion: I believe the account Yoshie still under the control of the original owner.

Exactly this. I don't understand why are people fussed so much about loan while person that lent him the money didn't tag him for loan defaulting or anything else of that sort.


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This would be the best as all we can do is to guess and make some theories, and nothing good and constructive can come out of it imho.

It's quite complicated to come to a conclusion just based on password reset. There would happen many things in personal life. Sometimes we express real-life thoughts via signature. Still, I don't think the account hack or stolen. Anyone can take a break from the forum and I don't see anything wrong with it. Regarding lending issues, we can't see any claim from lenders. So we shouldn't judge something so quickly.

Anyway, I believe Yoshie should come here and explain the real situation since a thread has already been created about him.

As long as shasan doesn't complain about it, the loan should be considered sorted.

YOSHIE's new signature doesn't look very positive, I'd say lock this thread and let him be.

I just saw YOSHIE being active again in forum today so maybe he can better explain what was happening with him and his loan, and talk more about his absence.
This should stop all speculation and clear the situation.

What is interesting to me is that he did password reset and made no posts for almost a month, and his loan situation is not clear.

... and with just three posts, who are you to demand others sign messages to prove to you that they are who they say they are?  Perhaps you should post via your main Troll account.

Good, that's what I've been waiting for. Now everything is finished. But the password has been changed during the period of inactivity, so everything will be fine if he can sign the messages he once did to this thread.


I don't expect it to be a threat to anyone who speculates about it as long as it's inactivity including outstanding loan issues. I hope he can sort things out with Shasan as quickly as possible personally or with the naked eye.

YOSHIE has online today.  https://bitcointalksearch.org/user/yoshie-2363935

But he changed & updated his signature to this

First, you should know that I am not a user who hates YOSHIE and its contributions. I know that YOSHIE is a prominent user on this forum and he has been considered a gem that deserves to be here for a long time.

But you don't have to argue with me just because you care so much to keep seeing him here to help out the bunch of bullshit companies that have gone too far to scam people without paying them the right way. As I explained, in a precarious situation, someone who has a reputation in the online space can still easily change if it is due to money. You must admit all of this in a neutral way.

You just need to read more excerpts from the post interaction between YOSHIE and Shasan on the loan thread above before you reply.

Yeps and this is the deal. YOSHIE hasn't violated anything about the loan yet? You are completely wrong. YOSHIE was supposed to pay it off right in April after the duration was extended.
No, YOSHIE is not cheating but he can't afford the loan + the interest keeps increasing. In short, if YOSHIE thought it was a small amount, why does it never pay it off when eth prices were below $200 in April. In fact he didn't have that much money, and eth prices continued to rise. If YOSHIE didn't have $200 back then, how could he currently pay it off with the current $2000 amount?

I probably won't speculate further on this loan if the two continue to interact on the same thread. However, since the agreement was made, you have never received any information about the status of the loan except for the YOSHIE profile * active loan *. You should also know what the risks are if the borrower agrees to loan something whose price is very volatile. 1.5 eth back then was probably only worth $160/ eth and YOSHIE only had $240 loans at the time.

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I also hope shasan looks at this thread and provides some information on the status of the loans that are due. In fact, shasan is not too brave to say that YOSHIE has bad loans because of YOSHIE's reputation. But if that happens to someone else, then I'm sure he will do it right away. Even he was not brave enough to come here to dispel the speculation about the loan.

I like your neutrality in this case. Other people must also be neutral towards the case at hand. Regardless they know each other, support him, trust him. But in this case, they have to be neutral.

The loan should not be completed by PM when there is a lot of information in the loan thread between the two. 160 ETC + current interest is the amount that has not been paid since the maturity date is April 2020.

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You don't have to be shasan's long sleeves in this case. Better ask him to come here and say something.

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Now I want to speculate a little more, March 16 YOSHIE is still resetting passwords via email. I know he is still monitoring this thread until now and seeing the progress of his case. Some of the scenarios that can bring YOSHIE back faster are.
1. Shasan thinks this loan is complete.
2. Someone of you pays this loan to shasan.
3. Eth prices fell below $200.
4. YOSHIE won the lottery over $2000 and paid off the loan.

Once again, I emphasize that all of you must be neutral in the cases that occur in the forum. Regardless of who did it, reputation, position, neutrality had to exist. That's why you are needed here as a member of dt.

It has not been settled yet or new loan has been given. I didn’t ask lots of details. Just asked shasan if he had any loan with YOSHIE. As I mentioned above, there's a loan of 160 ETC (ETH Classic). I didn’t ask how it comes to ETC although.

The repayment date was 11 months ago. If YOSHIE scammed, I would expect shasan to have called him out by now.

Long-term loans in an extremely volatile currency are very risky, especially for people coming from a country with low wages. If he didn't have the $200 he needed a year ago, it's not very likely he'll have a much larger amount now.
But since there's no scam accusation, this may very well have been settled in private.

The loan  is still active, it's not defaulted yet, only Shasan, the lender can confirm if the loan is already defaulted or not. We could see a possible reason why he is not active anymore but we cannot conclude for now yet, he has a good reputation in the forum, I don't think he will waste that.

Check above about the loan and you will know how is good reputation person.

AFAICR, YOSHIE almost always had a quote of some sort in his/her skype field ^{[e.g. archived taken on June 04, 2020]}.

Unfortunately, there isn't a way unless someone kept archiving his/her profile page on a daily basis...
^{- I looked on various websites + google's caches but had no luck.}

I'm sure if that was the case, he/she would've warned the community. Hopefully, it has to do with good news like a newborn child that's keeping him/her away from this forum as opposed to the pandemic.

true, but you can't really blame the people or those who have interacted with YOSHIE to wonder and ask what happened to him/her especially when that forum member that has contributed to the forum and has a very good reputation suddenly stopped being active.

He was probably removed from BestChange due to inactivity. It started at Week 59 in which he only posted 3 posts for that week and no post for the succeeding week. The campaign manager may have messaged him about his lack of posting and probably warned that if he didn't make the minimum post for the following week, he can get removed from the campaign. I bet that is what happened.

Anyway, I hope YOSHIE is okay.

You can't really stop people from digging though, the experiences that we shared with strangers online is very addicting so when a person that we once shared was suddenly gone, I think that we should just let it be because if we were careful about our tracks online, I think that no matter how much many people search they will never find anything.

I didn't like your words. I’m not surprised where you don’t love YOSHIE or LAUDA. Probably people like you don't like people looking for scammers. But let's check how the forum will exist without you, and who will remember you after the moderators find out that you are breaking the ban rule?


Ban evasion.

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This is so early to call YOSHIE a scammer. He has been herr for quite long time. He has been participating in a good campaign which pays good. Why would anyone scam such a small amount despite? I believe he is in trouble in real life.
Regarding the loan, your calculation isn’t correct at all. Current total due is approx $2000 (160 ETC, I didn’t ask how it goes to ETC) I had a chat with shasan on this.
$2000 isn’t a big sum to scam for a profile like YOSHIE and most importantly he was in a good campaign.
Anyway, hope the best for YOSHIE and shasan.

The loan was not yet due so we can't attribute that to him for being inactive for awhile.

As of now, he has not violation yet as the loan is extended which understandable since most of us are suffering from covid-19 effect and the loan of shasan that time was lower than the current price, so that's another thing.

Let us not speculate more that could destroy his reputation, let us not judge him yet.

Anyway, it would be nice to see Shasan's reply here.  

@shasan hasn't posted any "loan default" information on Yoshie's trust feedback page, so they may have an extended repayment arrangement - other lenders have granted extended repayments due to covid.  (Has anyone asked @shasan to review this thread?)

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As to the password reset, perhaps someone saw that Yoshie is inactive and tried to guess their password?

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Yoshi remains at DT1 until the reset in April (unless they both post at/near the start of April and are selected into DT1 for that month)  -  It would seem at least one user has decided Yoshie isn't coming back:

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Other than a couple of PM exchanges many months ago, I have no other information to shed light on their whereabouts (except to say I hope they are well and look forwards to new contributions to the Known Alts thread)

Can’t be..
Look at all the positive trust he has for althunting.. No way he would scam..

1. The first loan was successfully repaid

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2. The second loan is bad

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Since then, YOSHIE has never been seen paying off its loan to shasan (in part or in full). I just want to know what loan amount YOSHIE has to pay after the promised 1.7 ETH figure.

I just want you all to open your eyes wide and solve the problem on a case by case basis. Without having to support his sect, rank, position, and contribution to the forum, I think he's in big trouble. You never know what kind people and forum contributors will do when they are in an unfavorable situation. YOSHIE had to pay 2 ETH more than his bad loan in shasan. Is that called a fully permissible offense?

Current total loan + interest payable is $3520 or more. That's a pretty big sum for someone earning only $100 per week like YOSHIE from an signature campaign. Do you know what he can buy starting at $3520 in Indonesia? I think that kind of money can buy two new 150cc automatic motorbikes there.

My temporary guess about YOSHIE's attitude in leaving the forum is to avoid loan repayment, which is currently still active in the profile field at Shasan. I hope Shasan can confirm how much the total loan is. And now the loan is more than 1 year old since it was made. Don't say I'm guilty for revealing this. I only talk about current facts based on existing cases.

If my guess is correct, then YOSHIE is a forum contributor who is very untrustworthy because no matter how big his contribution, in the end he decided to make his profile and reputation tarnished by his attitude and tricks. So, what now do you think about YOSHIE?

his absence can be observed pretty well by everyone he caught cheating. his list of contribution to the community is stellar. his come back will likely be noticed well too. but i'd also be wondering how he is that just go without saying a word but password reset, could his account got hacked?  he must be a target of hundreds of users he busted here.

I suspect he has got what he wants in this space. He was a passionate person, his contribution were recognized, and his reputation as a cheaters hunter was praised. What else did she need, and apparently her responses in a thread also apply to her.


I'm sure he won't quit and will be right back, reset his password via email on March 16 mean he's still alive. Let him breathe more fresh air amid the poor quality of O² during the pandemic while in the crowd.

Maybe he's hanging out with the Mario brothers for a couple months and enjoying the Mariokart racing circuit lmao.

YOSHIE was connected with my telegram and have a couple of conversations but seems he was last active on 27 February which is the same date as the forum last login. Expecting he is fine in this COVID-19 situation. Still, it's less than a month, someone would be busy for personal life as well. Regarding the BestChange campaign, I am assuming the manager has been removing inactive participants and it's noticed from the spreadsheet. I don't see anything wrong here either removed or left, because a campaign manager always looks for active participants.

Anyway, left a message for him, hope I will get a response if he is fine or not busy.

Exactly, when we are having difficult time we try to be positive as much as we can or atleast that is how my mindset will be.

By the way is there any way to find when he added such kind of quote in his profile?

That quote doesn't indicate to me that he's got anything bad going on in his life.  It just sounds like a hopeful, positive-outlook quote and might be just that and nothing more.

I think it's way too early to be starting a "where's YOSHIE?" thread, because I recall seeing a post of his not too long ago, and it's only been a couple of weeks since he was last active.  I'm more curious as to where TMAN went off to and if he's doing OK--and there are others I haven't seen, like james.lent and Your Point Is Invalid--and others that I probably just can't recall off the top of my head, who used to be quite active but seemed to have abandoned the forum altogether.  So I have a feeling YOSHIE likely isn't gone for good.

Who is YOSHIE? everything will be fine without YOSHIE the same when LAUDA try to resign from this forum

bpip also says he/she requested a password change via email on the 16th of march...

To be honest, I have no clue what might have happened to him/her. I hope he/she is OK IRL. But that's about it... If it were me who dropped from the forum, i wouldn't want others to start digging into my life, so i'm not going to dig into somebody else's life either.

"but we have a feeling as deep as love for terrible things and darkness, deception and lies are just a terrible test."

Found this under his profile which shows that he is in some sort of personal issues, so needed a break from everything (just my guess though). But we need him back to bust more alts.

He was still posting on the 25th but he still managed to log on the 27th. I do hope YOSHIE is doing fine too and he will still get some warm welcome once he comes back here in the forum.

I asked myself the same thing few days ago when I saw that he has  been removed from BestChange signature campaign, probably due inactivity in the last couple of weeks.

I do hope that he is all right and that he just has some real life obligations at the moment so he is too busy to think about the forum.

Probably YOSHIE was removed from the subscription company due to inactivity. I would also like to know what happened to him?
I hope he will be fine, and soon he will return to the forum.
OP, may I ask why you were so affected by YOSHIE's absence? If you check your reviews, he left you a tag as a souvenir.

According to bpip, he's not banned and still in DT1. As to why he didn't log in anymore, no idear?

I just noticed recently that this guy was remove from BC and he is not active anymore.

His last log in was February 27, 2021 and I'm just curious as he is so active before especially in finding alt accounts cheating the bounty campaigns.

Anyone knows? Did he left or got removed from BC?

account URL : https://bitcointalksearch.org/user/yoshie-2363935