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legendary
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September 15, 2013, 04:15:23 PM
#10
How about a different question. How many transactions can Bitcoin support before wrapping back to 0?

They are not indexed by integers, but by the transaction id, which has enough bits for everyone on earth to send everyone on earth 1 bitcoin 21,000,000 times.... and then do it over again 1.1252x10^50 times.
full member
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Love the Bitcoin.
September 15, 2013, 04:15:16 PM
#9
How about a different question. How many transactions can Bitcoin support before wrapping back to 0?

Restate question?

Besides, IDGAF.
legendary
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Reverse engineer from time to time
September 15, 2013, 04:09:13 PM
#8
How about a different question. How many transactions can Bitcoin support before wrapping back to 0?
full member
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Love the Bitcoin.
September 15, 2013, 04:07:27 PM
#7
everyone already answered your question, but:

transactions, transactions, transactions
legendary
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September 15, 2013, 04:06:24 PM
#6
By 2140 when the last of the 21 million are mined, the entire 21 million will be distributed amongst millions of people (only if mass adoption occurs).

If you believe that the Pareto principle will apply to bitcoin, then 80% of the total 21 millions will be controlled by 20% of all holders.  That leaves open the question of what this 20% intend to do with their holdings.

Nothing will change in short. There will be less mining though and Bitcoin will be supported only with tx fees, however BTC will continue to function and be used.
The mining machines will still be useful for getting these fees and securing the network however. Mining will likely be very professional and centralized by then.

The supposition that transaction fees will be a substantial inducement to continue running hashing machines is interesting.  There seems to be an assumption that there will be a sufficient number of transactions to support the system.  I don’t have a clue about the basis of these assumptions, so please educate me.

/Frank


Number of Transactions:
http://blockchain.info/charts/n-transactions?timespan=all&showDataPoints=false&daysAverageString=1&show_header=true&scale=0&address=

Transaction Fees:
http://blockchain.info/charts/transaction-fees?timespan=all&showDataPoints=false&daysAverageString=1&show_header=true&scale=0&address=
sr. member
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September 15, 2013, 04:03:34 PM
#5
I realize that asking folks to peer into the murky future is inviting a lot of wild speculation.  However, speculation about future event possibilities can sometimes spark innovative ideas.  At the risk of drowning in a sea of ridicule, I ask these questions:

1.   What will all of the monster hashing machines do after the last coin is mined?
The last coin will never be mined (see also).

But even if it would, mining would still continue as normal, as new blocks would still be mined. They just wouldn't generate any new bitcoins, but it will remain profitable for people to keep mining nonetheless, for the transaction fees.
In fact, long before this last coin would be mined (which is never, but for argument's sake) the block reward (i.e. generation of new bitcoins) is already becoming insignificant compared to the transaction fees.

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2.   What will the peer-to-peer network be doing?
Same as now.

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3.   What are the large holders going to do with their massive collections of BTC?
Same as now. And same as large holders of massive collections of Euros, Dollars or gold.. Live in wealth, and spend it on hookers and coke, I suppose.
sr. member
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Blitz:The price affects the perception of the news
September 15, 2013, 03:15:19 PM
#4
By 2140 when the last of the 21 million are mined, the entire 21 million will be distributed amongst millions of people (only if mass adoption occurs).

If you believe that the Pareto principle will apply to bitcoin, then 80% of the total 21 millions will be controlled by 20% of all holders.  That leaves open the question of what this 20% intend to do with their holdings.

Nothing will change in short. There will be less mining though and Bitcoin will be supported only with tx fees, however BTC will continue to function and be used.
The mining machines will still be useful for getting these fees and securing the network however. Mining will likely be very professional and centralized by then.

The supposition that transaction fees will be a substantial inducement to continue running hashing machines is interesting.  There seems to be an assumption that there will be a sufficient number of transactions to support the system.  I don’t have a clue about the basis of these assumptions, so please educate me.

/Frank
hero member
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September 15, 2013, 02:52:02 PM
#3
I realize that asking folks to peer into the murky future is inviting a lot of wild speculation.  However, speculation about future event possibilities can sometimes spark innovative ideas.  At the risk of drowning in a sea of ridicule, I ask these questions:

1.   What will all of the monster hashing machines do after the last coin is mined?
2.   What will the peer-to-peer network be doing?
3.   What are the large holders going to do with their massive collections of BTC?

Looking forward to some interesting ideas.

/Frank

Nothing will change in short. There will be less mining though and Bitcoin will be supported only with tx fees, however BTC will continue to function and be used.
The mining machines will still be useful for getting these fees and securing the network however. Mining will likely be very professional and centralized by then.
sr. member
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Merit: 250
September 15, 2013, 02:50:39 PM
#2
I realize that asking folks to peer into the murky future is inviting a lot of wild speculation.  However, speculation about future event possibilities can sometimes spark innovative ideas.  At the risk of drowning in a sea of ridicule, I ask these questions:

1.   What will all of the monster hashing machines do after the last coin is mined?
2.   What will the peer-to-peer network be doing?
3.   What are the large holders going to do with their massive collections of BTC?

Looking forward to some interesting ideas.

/Frank


By this time there will be sufficient transaction volumes to provide miners with a greater income derived from mining fees over new block rewards.

By 2140 when the last of the 21 million are mined, the entire 21 million will be distributed amongst millions of people (only if mass adoption occurs).
sr. member
Activity: 266
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Blitz:The price affects the perception of the news
September 15, 2013, 02:39:18 PM
#1
I realize that asking folks to peer into the murky future is inviting a lot of wild speculation.  However, speculation about future event possibilities can sometimes spark innovative ideas.  At the risk of drowning in a sea of ridicule, I ask these questions:

1.   What will all of the monster hashing machines do after the last coin is mined?
2.   What will the peer-to-peer network be doing?
3.   What are the large holders going to do with their massive collections of BTC?

Looking forward to some interesting ideas.

/Frank
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