What I love about liberals and statists.

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Quote from: RodeoX on April 05, 2012, 06:15:54 PM

Well, I'm liberal and as anti-authoritarian as they get. It seems to me that conservatives are the rule followers. They obey gods, police, etc. Hell, I wouldn't obey a god even if there was one. But it really comes down to individuals I suppose.

Bahahahaha, yeah, "anti-authoritarian" except for endorsing state sanctioning of queers marrying, illegal immigrants to vote, and against law abiding people to own firearms, and I bet I and "we" should pay for daddy mommas welfare, locked up hubby, and hell spawn in gangs, and pay for their medical bills too I bet. You don't fool anybody!

Your post is even worse.

Endorsing "State Sanctioning of *queers marrying" is not Authoritarian. Individuals can marry whomever they please.

No actually they can't. Thank you.

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Anybody who attempts to tell them they cannot ARE AUTHORITARIAN (that includes you).

Stay away from my dog. I'm serious.

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There is no such thing as illegal immigration. It is a fantasy created by Nationalists and other individuals with small brains.

You are projecting. I am sure there are plenty of lawyers out there who could prove to you otherwise.

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Yes.. Gun control is idiotic.

Then why do you keep voting for it?

Lets try this again...

Simply answering "No actually they can't" is not an argument. Any imposition on an individuals right to self direction is a form of authority. Simply stating "No they can't" is a due to a prejudice you hold. I mean who is "they" other than people with differing preferences than yourself? This "us" against "them" mentality highlights a clear case of prejudice coupled with a superiority complex on your part Wink

Stay away from your dog? Not sure I comprehend what you're trying to communicate... some sort of macho Internet Bully crap perhaps?

I'm not projecting with regards to illegal immigration. We're all immigrants/migrants. It's just a matter of time (historical). Borders are not naturally created by natural events. Borders are a matter of perspective (we identify borders based on Nationalities). Nationalities are irrational. How? You proved it with your "Queers can't marry" garbage. We're not all the "same" by virtue of living in close proximity but rather by virtue of Genetic Variation/Drift. We are all variants of the same overall recipe.

I've never voted for "Firearms" prohibition. That claim came right out of your ass Wink

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Quote from: RodeoX on April 05, 2012, 06:15:54 PM

Well, I'm liberal and as anti-authoritarian as they get. It seems to me that conservatives are the rule followers. They obey gods, police, etc. Hell, I wouldn't obey a god even if there was one. But it really comes down to individuals I suppose.

Bahahahaha, yeah, "anti-authoritarian" except for endorsing state sanctioning of queers marrying, illegal immigrants to vote, and against law abiding people to own firearms, and I bet I and "we" should pay for daddy mommas welfare, locked up hubby, and hell spawn in gangs, and pay for their medical bills too I bet. You don't fool anybody!

Your post is even worse.

Endorsing "State Sanctioning of *queers marrying" is not Authoritarian. Individuals can marry whomever they please. Anybody who attempts to tell them they cannot ARE AUTHORITARIAN (that includes you).

There is no such thing as illegal immigration. It is a fantasy created by Nationalists and other individuals with small brains.

Yes.. Gun control is idiotic.

Momma's welfare is a non-argument. The State steals from everyone and lives off of "Government Programs". To attack the people (whom do not have access to the means of production) as being responsible for such problems (since we're absent "Freed Markets") is irrational imo.

Gangs are the result of Economic pooling of resources and an attempt to maximize ones own utility in the face of harsh environmental variables (in this case poverty for the most part). Gangs are a symptom not the cause of the problem.

Just saying.

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Quote from: RodeoX on April 05, 2012, 06:15:54 PM

Well, I'm liberal and as anti-authoritarian as they get. It seems to me that conservatives are the rule followers. They obey gods, police, etc. Hell, I wouldn't obey a god even if there was one. But it really comes down to individuals I suppose.

Do you obey Modern forms of Law? If so... you Obey a God (The State). Of course "laws" or "how one ought to behave" are not "wrong" per-say... especially not if voluntary and spread through education. What is wrong is authority being behind the enforcement. What is the difference between a Moral Lawgiver who happens to be a Space Daddy and a Moral Law Giver who happens to be an Earth Daddy? Not much imo.

To be Liberal and anti-authoritarian is not really possible. I mean you may be Socially Liberal but you, as a liberal, support Economic Regulations do you not? And that these be enforced by a State which in turn (at least on paper) is democratically elected and controlled by the people.

Thing is... what is on paper is not what reality has wrought for us.

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Agree with OP. The book Hackers and Painters has a bit on this as well.

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Quote from: Jon on March 26, 2012, 05:08:41 PM

It's a sad way to live.

and thats your opinion. Some people like to get told what to do.
please shut up about how you know whats the right way to live. YOU DON'T. people are different.

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The revolution will be monetized!

Well, I'm liberal and as anti-authoritarian as they get. It seems to me that conservatives are the rule followers. They obey gods, police, etc. Hell, I wouldn't obey a god even if there was one. But it really comes down to individuals I suppose.

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Quote from: Matthew N. Wright on March 26, 2012, 05:34:56 PM

The worst thing that can happen to him is when you remind him that he used to be his former aliases. He is a coward and the weakest person I've ever known. He is only still alive because he doesn't want to damage what he feels is his perfect face, with a bullet.

Watch him completely evade this question:

Atlas, what was your last nickname before this?

Quote from: Jon on March 26, 2012, 05:35:27 PM

My point: Do what you value and not what your daddy told you. If you value your master above all else, so be it.

In the end, I am just making conversation. I don't owe you anything. You don't owe me anything.

Goddamn I'm good. Called that a mile away.

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No Gods; No Masters; Only You

My point: Do what you value and not what your daddy told you. If you value your master above all else, so be it.

In the end, I am just making conversation. I don't owe you anything. You don't owe me anything.

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Actually, the reason why Atlas.... by the way..

Shut up, Atlas.

..sorry about that.. has to post all of these bullshit anal excavations is because he has no friends or family that will waste even a second of their time on him, so he needs to keep bothering everyone on the internet to steal their opinions and pretend they are his own, then change his identity and try to pretend he always felt that way.

The worst thing that can happen to him is when you remind him that he used to be his former aliases. He is a coward and the weakest person I've ever known. He is only still alive because he doesn't want to damage what he feels is his perfect face, with a bullet.

Watch him completely evade this question:

Atlas, what was your last nickname before this?

Me: +1
Atlas: 0 (as usual)

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Let's talk governance, lipstick, and pigs.

You keep saying stuff like this but never have anything constructive to offer. Go whine to your mama. Better yet, write a book. Amygdala driven folks love vitriol and potty humor. Fear sells, baby.

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They always talk about being a "grown-up". If you want things your way, you're a "child".

It exemplifies how they grew up: Authoritarian parents and teachers that were obsessed with allotting privileges and making orders. What was the prize that was used to reinforce their behavior? Eventually being labeled a "grown-up".

In turn, the child becomes obsessed to living up to the authority their parents bullied down their throat. The people or "children" who don't follow authority need to be put in their place.

I will reckon most of these people had horrible rigid childhoods. They couldn't go outside when they wanted to. When they didn't do their homework, they were verbally abused by their parents and so forth.

Additionally, public schools only add to this abuse.

For example, I was put in bootcamp for refusing to do homework. I was forced to run until I vomited. I had to sit in a cubical eight hours a day with no restroom break while I was told I had a "poor attitude" for not doing the requests they forced upon me. Luckily, it only added to my resentment of the system.

Anyways, my point is, a lot of people on here act like abused slaves obsessed with getting approval from authority. It's a sad way to live.

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