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Hello and what's up fellow users/gamblers!
I hope you had a great weekend!
Another week has come, so let's start all over again.

what if you suddenly see a fellow gambler that has been winning continuously (example Poker) and it seems like he's unbeatable on that game, would you care to join him so you could also be winning? Or would you like to beat the guy on his game?

We certainly can't deny the fact that we gamblers can be easily influenced by these kind of scenarios.

I participated in hundreds of online poker tournaments and played, probably, thousands cash games. Also, I've watched tons of poker related videos on YouTube, presented by FuryTV, PokerStars and such. And, from my experience, there is no such thing as unbeatable poker player. And it's not just because "we all make mistakes" kind of thing. From my point of view, good poker players lose big sometimes not because of their "mistakes", but because of bad luck.

So, I'd rather try my luck on my own instead of shifting responsibility for the possible loss on someone else.

but what OP says (for Example) so this stands for all games as well.or maybe OP is just comparing the card games in Our Local version of Poker as Pusoy ,and in this game we compete with others and if you are lucky you can win continuously as i have experienced the same wayback.
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But how can you rely on someone's luck? Why not to think that you are equally lucky, which is logical, btw?

I mean, I know that some good pro poker players have sponsors, who pay for some huge buy-ins, but being on the place of the sponsor, I'd rather play myself. But, well, that's me, I don't judge them or anything. I understand that, even though luck is a major factor, investing in a good poker player you have slightly more chances of winning in the end.

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Quote from: cabalism13 on November 11, 2019, 05:09:16 AM

what if you suddenly see a fellow gambler that has been winning continuously (example Poker) and it seems like he's unbeatable on that game, would you care to join him so you could also be winning? Or would you like to beat the guy on his game?

I would be interested to beat him instead of to join him, simply because I like poker and it would be nice to play against someone who is so great in poker game. I would not care losing some money (not much) if I can play against professional poker player as it would be something like unforgettable story in my life. If I win against him then it will be great as I can beat great player but if I lose then at least I can feel the beauty of playing poker against a great player.

If the joining that the OP is referring to here is working with him as a team to have better chances of making the game really though for the opponent based on my skills, and if it is going to also involve money coming out of it, I would really prefer to join him than to work against him, but if the guy is feeling too proud like he is a champion and also making it known to people or bragging about it that he is unbeatable, I would rather play against him, if after watching his own strategies that looks unbeatable and I feel that I can do better.

What makes one better and more professional in life is when you face some though challenges that feel like it is unbeatable; you should through that experience also gather more experience about the game for further development.

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Totally non sense to beat him, I'd rather seat beside him and cheer him more and who knows he could give me some share. HAHAHA!

But seriously, asking him how he do that can't guarantee me that I could also win, we all have strategy that we discover along our gambling journey and little by little we realized that this strategy can't work in certain scenario. It's actually more on trial and error and losses comes along with it.

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Quote from: Ryker1 on November 14, 2019, 01:33:44 PM

Well, I almost missed this thread of what IF before OP locking the thread.
Well, in my own opinion, I will begin to make friends with him and once that we already a friend I will convince him how to teach me.
Another option, watch every move he has and learns with it. Poker game is based on skills, if you know how to work the strategy he has given, then, you will become like him someday if you are willing to learn and master that gambling.

A considerable act of yours though since you do intend to copy his own strategy.Making friends with a little span of time wont guarantee that he would
teach you up on his strategies (lucky if he does) but most of the time it will surely fail.

Copying others wont really be that easy or lets say its effective anytime if you do try it up because each person do have different decision making skills
which is a big factor on poker.

And I believe it so...Even how you're close to each other but can't guarantee that he would love to tell you anything he does in order to continue his winning streak. It is to know that we can't fully mirror someone, especially in gambling cause that person surely hides something and that is his/her big asset. That means that, if our friend straightly wins, it can't be possible that will happens to us also. It is all the luck that he has wich we don't have.

Even if we do just put their situation on our own feet then for sure you wont tend to tell your secrets 100% on how to win but even if you do
you cant really mimic 100% on others because luck isn't the same on each person.

Yeah you know that you can perform out those so called strategies but pretty sure that outcomes wont really be that the same.

Of course, it is impossible for an individual to tell everything you do or your style when playing especially to some stranger who just makes friends with you so suddenly. It is also impossible to imitate his moves and apply them to your own game style.

Actually I've tried it before, and yes, you are right. Even after applying the strategies of other people, the same thing did not happen to me.

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If you see a complete monster at the table who is rolling everyone, then you either wait until he's gone or play at another table.

This isn't a video game, it's not a competition about who is better, it's about who can win more. Only a complete fool would try to beat a pro.

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Quote from: Ryker1 on November 14, 2019, 01:33:44 PM

Well, I almost missed this thread of what IF before OP locking the thread.
Well, in my own opinion, I will begin to make friends with him and once that we already a friend I will convince him how to teach me.
Another option, watch every move he has and learns with it. Poker game is based on skills, if you know how to work the strategy he has given, then, you will become like him someday if you are willing to learn and master that gambling.

A considerable act of yours though since you do intend to copy his own strategy.Making friends with a little span of time wont guarantee that he would
teach you up on his strategies (lucky if he does) but most of the time it will surely fail.

Copying others wont really be that easy or lets say its effective anytime if you do try it up because each person do have different decision making skills
which is a big factor on poker.

And I believe it so...Even how you're close to each other but can't guarantee that he would love to tell you anything he does in order to continue his winning streak. It is to know that we can't fully mirror someone, especially in gambling cause that person surely hides something and that is his/her big asset. That means that, if our friend straightly wins, it can't be possible that will happens to us also. It is all the luck that he has wich we don't have.

Even if we do just put their situation on our own feet then for sure you wont tend to tell your secrets 100% on how to win but even if you do
you cant really mimic 100% on others because luck isn't the same on each person.

Yeah you know that you can perform out those so called strategies but pretty sure that outcomes wont really be that the same.

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Quote from: Ryker1 on November 14, 2019, 01:33:44 PM

Well, I almost missed this thread of what IF before OP locking the thread.
Well, in my own opinion, I will begin to make friends with him and once that we already a friend I will convince him how to teach me.
Another option, watch every move he has and learns with it. Poker game is based on skills, if you know how to work the strategy he has given, then, you will become like him someday if you are willing to learn and master that gambling.

This is a double edged sword, you could learn his skills but you can never copy his applications, like when is the right time you will apply it to overcome a tough situation or the other way around, just ask him about his experience and some tips on winning, figure out your own strategy and no doubt, it will work for you every single time.

E D I T: Don't rush yourself learning in gambling, or you'll find yourself losing with your self-proclaimed "skills"

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Quote from: cabalism13 on November 11, 2019, 05:09:16 AM

what if you suddenly see a fellow gambler that has been winning continuously (example Poker) and it seems like he's unbeatable on that game, would you care to join him so you could also be winning? Or would you like to beat the guy on his game?

What? How can you also be able to win if you joined a hustler in the table? In poker, all is your opponent. Hmm, maybe I just don't understand what you really mean. Anyway, in such cases like this l will definitely stop for a while because I knew he was a threat to my money Grin

. If he was my friend and do not play however giving real time advice to me on what I should do or not then probably that's the time I play with no hesitations. I will never treat my friend a 'friend' if he is playing along with me because everyone is your opponent when it comes to fight for money.

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Quote from: Reatim on November 14, 2019, 12:41:22 PM

But we have our own perception in gambling and i respect yours but if given a chance then i will grab to be against the consistently winner lol.

Don't try to be over confident,yes human has ego but think in smart way you are not going to lose anything if you skip the game but if you try to win someone who won particularly on the game then you will have no exception from his loser list. Grin

Quote from: cabalism13 on November 15, 2019, 04:29:00 AM

It's been nice to see that we're on our page 5 again, only a bit hours left before we end this part 5 of our what if, and again thanks for those users who participated on this topic, I also hope you will be able to join us in this coming week ao just stay tuned.

I am excited about the next what IF situation.

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It's been nice to see that we're on our page 5 again, only a bit hours left before we end this part 5 of our what if, and again thanks for those users who participated on this topic, I also hope you will be able to join us in this coming week ao just stay tuned.

Only a few users have distinguished the topic that this is not just about poker. LOL.

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Quote from: cabalism13 on November 11, 2019, 05:09:16 AM

Hello and what's up fellow users/gamblers!
I hope you had a great weekend!
Another week has come, so let's start all over again.

what if you suddenly see a fellow gambler that has been winning continuously (example Poker) and it seems like he's unbeatable on that game, would you care to join him so you could also be winning? Or would you like to beat the guy on his game?

We certainly can't deny the fact that we gamblers can be easily influenced by these kind of scenarios.

If I would see a fellow gambler that looks unbeatable and he always win on the poker table, then I would join on his/her side for me to gain the strategies and skills that he is doing because it looks that he already master on how to play poker that's why he/she is unbeatable. Aside from getting skills and strategies from him, I may get also winnings and earnings for this in order to have profit from the gambling if I will join forces with him. It is a very lucky day if he/she will allow me to join on his side to earn and gain experience on how they are playing poker and it would be a win win situation.

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I will go with the easy way, of course I will just join him and enjoy winning.
Beating a man that is so lucky is like bumping your head in the wall, I am able to say this due to my long experience in gambling.
Although I don't believe in superstitious but there are times and situation that I have to consider believing it, and that's what I've stated above.

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Quote from: RivAngE on November 14, 2019, 05:29:54 PM

If it was any other kind of game (non-gambling), I'm a competitive person so I'd challenge him if I felt that I'm also good at this game.
But I'm also very careful with my money, so I wouldn't go against a beast-player in a gambling game!

nope it is not beast in that game instead just getting luck,so if you are a competitive person?then this is your chance to beat him.

anyway since you also mentioned being careful for your money,then i can see the competent you have is smaller than what i expected so better keep safe.

Quote from: aioc on November 14, 2019, 10:08:31 PM

I'm not good at poker and it's a waste of effort and money if I will challenge him so I prefer joining him and maybe he can give me tips on how to win continuously in Poker, Poker is very much different from other gambling because you need skills to win here not only luck and this guy combine the two.

thats even better to think of our money specially if we are not good on that specific game,so betting with the Lucky one can bring us more chance of winning than competing .

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Quote from: cabalism13 on November 11, 2019, 05:09:16 AM

Hello and what's up fellow users/gamblers!
I hope you had a great weekend!
Another week has come, so let's start all over again.

what if you suddenly see a fellow gambler that has been winning continuously (example Poker) and it seems like he's unbeatable on that game, would you care to join him so you could also be winning? Or would you like to beat the guy on his game?

We certainly can't deny the fact that we gamblers can be easily influenced by these kind of scenarios.

I'm not good at poker and it's a waste of effort and money if I will challenge him so I prefer joining him and maybe he can give me tips on how to win continuously in Poker, Poker is very much different from other gambling because you need skills to win here not only luck and this guy combine the two.

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Quote from: Oilacris on November 14, 2019, 04:35:41 PM

Quote from: Ryker1 on November 14, 2019, 01:33:44 PM

Well, I almost missed this thread of what IF before OP locking the thread.
Well, in my own opinion, I will begin to make friends with him and once that we already a friend I will convince him how to teach me.
Another option, watch every move he has and learns with it. Poker game is based on skills, if you know how to work the strategy he has given, then, you will become like him someday if you are willing to learn and master that gambling.

A considerable act of yours though since you do intend to copy his own strategy.Making friends with a little span of time wont guarantee that he would
teach you up on his strategies (lucky if he does) but most of the time it will surely fail.

Copying others wont really be that easy or lets say its effective anytime if you do try it up because each person do have different decision making skills
which is a big factor on poker.

And I believe it so...Even how you're close to each other but can't guarantee that he would love to tell you anything he does in order to continue his winning streak. It is to know that we can't fully mirror someone, especially in gambling cause that person surely hides something and that is his/her big asset. That means that, if our friend straightly wins, it can't be possible that will happens to us also. It is all the luck that he has wich we don't have.

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Quote from: RivAngE on November 14, 2019, 05:29:54 PM

If it was any other kind of game (non-gambling), I'm a competitive person so I'd challenge him if I felt that I'm also good at this game.
But I'm also very careful with my money, so I wouldn't go against a beast-player in a gambling game!

But he's just lucky and I think he's not that good but just lucky. Are you still willing to go against him or nah let his luck suck out and then I go against him. Cool

But if you know you can't beat a lucky guy then move on to another table. Cheesy

Sometimes you just love to watch these guys if you know what they were doing. But if you saw a serious player that doesn't give any sign of emotions. You probably stay with them I guess but if you feel like going against them then try it out. Wink

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If it was any other kind of game (non-gambling), I'm a competitive person so I'd challenge him if I felt that I'm also good at this game.
But I'm also very careful with my money, so I wouldn't go against a beast-player in a gambling game!

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Quote from: Ryker1 on November 14, 2019, 01:33:44 PM

Well, I almost missed this thread of what IF before OP locking the thread.
Well, in my own opinion, I will begin to make friends with him and once that we already a friend I will convince him how to teach me.
Another option, watch every move he has and learns with it. Poker game is based on skills, if you know how to work the strategy he has given, then, you will become like him someday if you are willing to learn and master that gambling.

A considerable act of yours though since you do intend to copy his own strategy.Making friends with a little span of time wont guarantee that he would
teach you up on his strategies (lucky if he does) but most of the time it will surely fail.

Copying others wont really be that easy or lets say its effective anytime if you do try it up because each person do have different decision making skills
which is a big factor on poker.

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Well, I almost missed this thread of what IF before OP locking the thread.
Well, in my own opinion, I will begin to make friends with him and once that we already a friend I will convince him how to teach me.
Another option, watch every move he has and learns with it. Poker game is based on skills, if you know how to work the strategy he has given, then, you will become like him someday if you are willing to learn and master that gambling.

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Quote from: Reatim on November 12, 2019, 09:06:47 AM

from what is written in OP has two choices mate,its Either you play with the lucky one or Play against him,so which one have you tried and fail?sorry but i think i have missed something?of its your post is not relevant at all?

I tried to play against the one,I lost.If I tired to join the person who won few times also lost this time.So I meant to say that I will skip that game won't join or try to win as well.

oh that's it?now i see the point mate sorry because its not clear if i will just rely on your post lol,thanks for clearing.

Quote from: Natalim on November 14, 2019, 08:20:38 AM

I'm not good in poker but if I have to play then I would just join him, this is a very effective strategy as I have already done this before in different gambling game. Like in sports betting, if I see someone who is very consistent with his picks, then I would prefer to follow his beat while he is still hot.

this means you become a lucky charm as well to those whom you bet with?nice of you because mine?i have no luck for others but i think i will be lucky if i go against him.

but we have our own perception in gambling and i respect yours but if given a chance then i will grab to be against the consistently winner lol.

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Quote from: Natalim on November 14, 2019, 08:20:38 AM

I'm not good in poker but if I have to play then I would just join him, this is a very effective strategy as I have already done this before in different gambling game. Like in sports betting, if I see someone who is very consistent with his picks, then I would prefer to follow his beat while he is still hot.

Here's my what if regarding about your opinion.

What if you joined him and the tide's changed, he started on losing and you bet, big to bigger bets having a thought that he could win the next round, but he didn't, right after that, I am sure you will put the blame on him and going to roast him like he forced you to join him. The advantage of joining forces with someone you think good at gambling is a nice move, but you also have to consider that there are times that he is going to lose and that times might be your wrong move and the result is too far from what you are expecting.

By saying this, I recommend not to do this unless you are ready for the consequences that possible to happen, so there would be no blaming scenarios in the end, that's very unprofessional and immature.

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I'm not good in poker but if I have to play then I would just join him, this is a very effective strategy as I have already done this before in different gambling game. Like in sports betting, if I see someone who is very consistent with his picks, then I would prefer to follow his beat while he is still hot.

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Quote from: cabalism13 on November 11, 2019, 05:09:16 AM

Hello and what's up fellow users/gamblers!
I hope you had a great weekend!
Another week has come, so let's start all over again.

what if you suddenly see a fellow gambler that has been winning continuously (example Poker) and it seems like he's unbeatable on that game, would you care to join him so you could also be winning? Or would you like to beat the guy on his game?

We certainly can't deny the fact that we gamblers can be easily influenced by these kind of scenarios.

i will Join him lol,why would i try to beat a gambler that has a friend of Luck for a certain time?i will bet with him until his Luck subside and if happens that even if luck leaves him is still playing?then i will surely go against him and look what i can get,thats what gamblers need to do because we need money and not defeat lol.

nice 'Part 5 of What If' kabayan looking forward for many parts lol.

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Quote from: cabalism13 on November 11, 2019, 05:09:16 AM

Hello and what's up fellow users/gamblers!
I hope you had a great weekend!
Another week has come, so let's start all over again.

what if you suddenly see a fellow gambler that has been winning continuously (example Poker) and it seems like he's unbeatable on that game, would you care to join him so you could also be winning? Or would you like to beat the guy on his game?

We certainly can't deny the fact that we gamblers can be easily influenced by these kind of scenarios.

Actually if I will see those kind of gamblers or people in the table of the casino then I would be rather to go the opponent side and fight him so I can test my skills and techniques if I am really good at poker and other game stuffs. Why I would go to the opponent side? It is because I want to be the best gambler at the table and many people will admire me on my playing style and I want to make that gambler realize that I am the superior or the veteran. It is a super rare to find a very good gambler in which he can manage all the cards that the dealer are giving to him so it would be great if I will saw and try to fight him/her in poker.

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I will choose the option to join him. The most important thing for me is getting a victory. So if you have to join the people who always win, then I will do it. Moreover, later I will definitely try to learn from him how to be able to win continuously.Even if later I won't be as good as him, at least I can become number 2.

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Quote from: cabalism13 on November 11, 2019, 05:09:16 AM

what if you suddenly see a fellow gambler that has been winning continuously (example Poker) and it seems like he's unbeatable on that game, would you care to join him so you could also be winning? Or would you like to beat the guy on his game?

Most of us here will choose to gamble with that gambler who is winning continuously and I will too if I'm there if he likes too. If he wants other gamblers to join him then I will gamble but I will always set a target profit and once it reaches, I will stop. I will not gamble with him until the end because I know that luck will not always on his side. There will be a time that he will lose his money in the end unless he knows when to stop.

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Maybe joining him because it's hard to beat a gambler that is too lucky, when its lucky day its his lucky day, just stay away if you are planning to beat him because usually you will just end up losing in the end. I always put in mind that luck beat skills, that's my principle.

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Quote from: cabalism13 on November 11, 2019, 05:09:16 AM

what if you suddenly see a fellow gambler that has been winning continuously (example Poker) and it seems like he's unbeatable on that game, would you care to join him so you could also be winning? Or would you like to beat the guy on his game?

We certainly can't deny the fact that we gamblers can be easily influenced by these kind of scenarios.

I know how to play Poker but if I saw someone who continuously winning at that game, I will never think of beating the guy. Why should I do that if I can just choose other opponents instead to increase my winning chances? That kind of gambler is hard to beat since the reason why he is winning continously is not just because of luck but that gambler is actually good at applying the strategy.

In a mind game type of gambling, the experience is the key, so no way, I will not definitely make an attempt to beat that guy.

Probably, I won't join a game where a professional is joining 'cause I'll be just wasting money there. Poker is a game that requires mind and timing to bluff the enemies, if your mental ability is weak, you can be easily fooled by them.

If you knew something that's not in favor on your side then why would you risk your money, there's still another day for gambling.

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Quote from: cabalism13 on November 11, 2019, 05:09:16 AM

what if you suddenly see a fellow gambler that has been winning continuously (example Poker) and it seems like he's unbeatable on that game, would you care to join him so you could also be winning? Or would you like to beat the guy on his game?

We certainly can't deny the fact that we gamblers can be easily influenced by these kind of scenarios.

I know how to play Poker but if I saw someone who continuously winning at that game, I will never think of beating the guy. Why should I do that if I can just choose other opponents instead to increase my winning chances? That kind of gambler is hard to beat since the reason why he is winning continously is not just because of luck but that gambler is actually good at applying the strategy.

In a mind game type of gambling, the experience is the key, so no way, I will not definitely make an attempt to beat that guy.

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Quote from: cabalism13 on November 11, 2019, 05:09:16 AM

Or would you like to beat the guy on his game?

Yes, if I know the game.
No, if I just want to ride.

It's risky to beat a knowledgeable gambler on their favorite sports or activity as that's their comfort zone.

I'm just increasing my risk of losing more if I decided to compete with these gambler.

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Quote from: cabalism13 on November 11, 2019, 05:09:16 AM

Hello and what's up fellow users/gamblers!
I hope you had a great weekend!
Another week has come, so let's start all over again.

what if you suddenly see a fellow gambler that has been winning continuously (example Poker) and it seems like he's unbeatable on that game, would you care to join him so you could also be winning? Or would you like to beat the guy on his game?

We certainly can't deny the fact that we gamblers can be easily influenced by these kind of scenarios.

I'm not good at Poker but I would love to beat him if I could, Poker is a game of luck and skills, there are people who are good at having a lucky game, by playing against him I can get some pointers and if by chance I able to beat I will be proud of myself and people will think I'm very good at Poker, because I bet a guy who has a lot of win to his credit.

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Quote from: cabalism13 on November 11, 2019, 05:09:16 AM

what if you suddenly see a fellow gambler that has been winning continuously (example Poker) and it seems like he's unbeatable on that game, would you care to join him so you could also be winning? Or would you like to beat the guy on his game?

Well I am honest by the fact that I am jealous with the winning I certainly don't deny it specially if it is my friend's. I would like to join to if and only my friend don't mind it. Anyway I have no intention of beating my fellow gambler, what I am currently thinking is that I must be winning as well like him/her. Though if he/she don't mind on me joining then I would, definitely. Otherwise, I won't or I will be playing it myself with no intention of beating him/her in the first place.

If you dont have on intention on beating up someone while you do play then you are just basically trying to waste up your money.
Well, gambling is for entertainment and its not bad not to be serious and not minding too much either a good or average player to whom
you play with.Its a matter of selection though because as i have read up on this thread, majority would really like to beat up that pro guy instead
of joining him.

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Quote from: ChrisPop on November 12, 2019, 09:09:44 AM

Poker is in a big percent skill-based, that's why you see some people constantly winning at Poker. Talent and learning strategies & risk management principles are a must in Poker pretty much like in trading. If I would be skilled and confident on me at that specific game I would certainly join the table as I usually don't back up from any challenges.

because poker is skill-based I will join him because winning in a row means that he has a good strategy, it's like a free money Cheesy

whereas if based on luck, it's better to fight him because there's no someone in a row will get luck all the time.

Luck has still something to do with poker player even though it is a skill based game. The luck that I've been talking about is the sequence of the cards. Although the only way that a professional player will lose if they were being deceive by their opponent when bluffing. So that means the luck is on his side.

I'd rather join with him he's too lucky but not in the poket because that's against with him. If I have to defeat one lucky gambler, I might have to look at the person first before trying to join because I know that somehow I still have chance to win.

when your opponent bluffing this is your strategy to play, whether you will be carried away by your opponent, or you fold, or you can also follow until 3 cards are opened, then you can determine. About luck in poker is when you have a good card then you ALL in and this is where the luck happens.

But how can you determine if your opponent is bluffing, it will be hard.
Unless you have a good card in your hand to fight even if he is bluffing.
Waiting for the flop to determine the next action will be the best trick to see and measure your chances of winning.

Bluffing will not always be displaying a tough face that says you have the upper hand, therefore it is hard to fight head on against someone in poker because everything is unpredictable, and for me, bluffing is a suicidal action that anyone is making while having the thought that it could be their key to win in poker, trust me, its not, let your card to the bluff alone, go with the flow, and only use one expression when gambling to make your opponents confused.

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Quote from: cabalism13 on November 11, 2019, 05:09:16 AM

what if you suddenly see a fellow gambler that has been winning continuously (example Poker) and it seems like he's unbeatable on that game, would you care to join him so you could also be winning? Or would you like to beat the guy on his game?

Well I am honest by the fact that I am jealous with the winning I certainly don't deny it specially if it is my friend's. I would like to join to if and only my friend don't mind it. Anyway I have no intention of beating my fellow gambler, what I am currently thinking is that I must be winning as well like him/her. Though if he/she don't mind on me joining then I would, definitely. Otherwise, I won't or I will be playing it myself with no intention of beating him/her in the first place.

I think I would also join to a fellow gambler that has been winning continuously because I wanted to experienced his luck. It would be bad if you would split bet to your fellow gambler because it would be your loss not having his luck and not earning good profit. There are also chances that you could beat him, but it would be much better if you just join him while he is winning continuously because it would be rude to him if you remove his luck.

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Quote from: cabalism13 on November 11, 2019, 05:09:16 AM

what if you suddenly see a fellow gambler that has been winning continuously (example Poker) and it seems like he's unbeatable on that game, would you care to join him so you could also be winning? Or would you like to beat the guy on his game?

Well I am honest by the fact that I am jealous with the winning I certainly don't deny it specially if it is my friend's. I would like to join to if and only my friend don't mind it. Anyway I have no intention of beating my fellow gambler, what I am currently thinking is that I must be winning as well like him/her. Though if he/she don't mind on me joining then I would, definitely. Otherwise, I won't or I will be playing it myself with no intention of beating him/her in the first place.

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Quote from: shoreno on November 13, 2019, 09:58:27 AM

oh your now on part 5 of your what if's questions op hehe nice to see that . in this new question of yours i think my answer will be no . im not gona ever try to play against him because i can see that he is winning alot of times which means he is a pro poker player but im not a pro on playing poker . my losses are more than what i won . i think i will only compete against other noob poker players . i like to test my skills on them and i think that is going to be exciting .

because poker is not based on luck, so it's hard to beat someone who is already a pro, because it's about strategy especially as those who always win it will be difficult to against him. but I want to join to get money from him.

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Quote from: shoreno on November 13, 2019, 09:58:27 AM

oh your now on part 5 of your what if's questions op hehe nice to see that . in this new question of yours i think my answer will be no . im not gona ever try to play against him because i can see that he is winning alot of times which means he is a pro poker player but im not a pro on playing poker . my losses are more than what i won . i think i will only compete against other noob poker players . i like to test my skills on them and i think that is going to be exciting .

^ Probably OP locking this thread in the next few days because it is already hit on page 5 replies. That is good to compete with him if there's no involve money and I would love to know too if I have an opponent like that and playing just for fun. Because if you are playing against him and bet money for sure you were always a loser against the expert one while you are not. In the real poker room, it is good to gamble poker especially your opponent know how to bluff.

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oh your now on part 5 of your what if's questions op hehe nice to see that . in this new question of yours i think my answer will be no . im not gona ever try to play against him because i can see that he is winning alot of times which means he is a pro poker player but im not a pro on playing poker . my losses are more than what i won . i think i will only compete against other noob poker players . i like to test my skills on them and i think that is going to be exciting .

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Quote from: wildan88 on November 12, 2019, 11:33:50 AM

Quote from: ChrisPop on November 12, 2019, 09:09:44 AM

Poker is in a big percent skill-based, that's why you see some people constantly winning at Poker. Talent and learning strategies & risk management principles are a must in Poker pretty much like in trading. If I would be skilled and confident on me at that specific game I would certainly join the table as I usually don't back up from any challenges.

because poker is skill-based I will join him because winning in a row means that he has a good strategy, it's like a free money Cheesy

whereas if based on luck, it's better to fight him because there's no someone in a row will get luck all the time.

Luck has still something to do with poker player even though it is a skill based game. The luck that I've been talking about is the sequence of the cards. Although the only way that a professional player will lose if they were being deceive by their opponent when bluffing. So that means the luck is on his side.

I'd rather join with him he's too lucky but not in the poket because that's against with him. If I have to defeat one lucky gambler, I might have to look at the person first before trying to join because I know that somehow I still have chance to win.

when your opponent bluffing this is your strategy to play, whether you will be carried away by your opponent, or you fold, or you can also follow until 3 cards are opened, then you can determine. About luck in poker is when you have a good card then you ALL in and this is where the luck happens.

But how can you determine if your opponent is bluffing, it will be hard.
Unless you have a good card in your hand to fight even if he is bluffing.
Waiting for the flop to determine the next action will be the best trick to see and measure your chances of winning.

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Quote from: Oceat on November 12, 2019, 03:49:19 PM

Quote from: wildan88 on November 12, 2019, 11:33:50 AM

Quote from: ChrisPop on November 12, 2019, 09:09:44 AM

Poker is in a big percent skill-based, that's why you see some people constantly winning at Poker. Talent and learning strategies & risk management principles are a must in Poker pretty much like in trading. If I would be skilled and confident on me at that specific game I would certainly join the table as I usually don't back up from any challenges.

because poker is skill-based I will join him because winning in a row means that he has a good strategy, it's like a free money Cheesy

whereas if based on luck, it's better to fight him because there's no someone in a row will get luck all the time.

Luck has still something to do with poker player even though it is a skill based game. The luck that I've been talking about is the sequence of the cards. Although the only way that a professional player will lose if they were being deceive by their opponent when bluffing. So that means the luck is on his side.

I'd rather join with him he's too lucky but not in the poket because that's against with him. If I have to defeat one lucky gambler, I might have to look at the person first before trying to join because I know that somehow I still have chance to win.

when your opponent bluffing this is your strategy to play, whether you will be carried away by your opponent, or you fold, or you can also follow until 3 cards are opened, then you can determine. About luck in poker is when you have a good card then you ALL in and this is where the luck happens.

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Quote from: wildan88 on November 12, 2019, 11:33:50 AM

Quote from: ChrisPop on November 12, 2019, 09:09:44 AM

Poker is in a big percent skill-based, that's why you see some people constantly winning at Poker. Talent and learning strategies & risk management principles are a must in Poker pretty much like in trading. If I would be skilled and confident on me at that specific game I would certainly join the table as I usually don't back up from any challenges.

because poker is skill-based I will join him because winning in a row means that he has a good strategy, it's like a free money Cheesy

whereas if based on luck, it's better to fight him because there's no someone in a row will get luck all the time.

Luck has still something to do with poker player even though it is a skill based game. The luck that I've been talking about is the sequence of the cards. Although the only way that a professional player will lose if they were being deceive by their opponent when bluffing. So that means the luck is on his side.

I'd rather join with him he's too lucky but not in the poket because that's against with him. If I have to defeat one lucky gambler, I might have to look at the person first before trying to join because I know that somehow I still have chance to win.

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Quote from: ChrisPop on November 12, 2019, 09:09:44 AM

Poker is in a big percent skill-based, that's why you see some people constantly winning at Poker. Talent and learning strategies & risk management principles are a must in Poker pretty much like in trading. If I would be skilled and confident on me at that specific game I would certainly join the table as I usually don't back up from any challenges.

because poker is skill-based I will join him because winning in a row means that he has a good strategy, it's like a free money Cheesy

whereas if based on luck, it's better to fight him because there's no someone in a row will get luck all the time.

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The natural response of most people would be joining him, there is this saying that goes "if you can't beat them (gambling sites), join them (the player you were saying)" but of course I bet that most of them are going to quit early because of their wrong prediction, humans tend to think that they could do what others do and excel at it like them but no, it doesn't work always.

We have our own door where if we enter, we are going to find the place where we really belong, where we are going to excel and earn huge plenty of profits just like others.

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Poker is in a big percent skill-based, that's why you see some people constantly winning at Poker. Talent and learning strategies & risk management principles are a must in Poker pretty much like in trading. If I would be skilled and confident on me at that specific game I would certainly join the table as I usually don't back up from any challenges.

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is this serious?we already in Part 5?i have been here since the beginning lol,happy to see it running still,you have a very broad imagination @cabalism13 lol

Yeah mate, we're already on week 5 LoL. This is something like a campaign of what if so it can be longer than the others 🤣 me and my crazy ideas.

will we surpass the longest thread ever?the Wall Observer if all the "What If" thread combined together?we and your Crazy Ideas?hahaha

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No I won't join or try to win based on this scenario because my luck doesn't depend on anyone or at least which I believe.Yes this could influence us to play more but I really been in this situation few times but got more loss than what I won,so its clearly not working for me after few tries.

from what is written in OP has two choices mate,its Either you play with the lucky one or Play against him,so which one have you tried and fail?sorry but i think i have missed something?of its your post is not relevant at all?

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Quote from: cabalism13 on November 11, 2019, 05:09:16 AM

Hello and what's up fellow users/gamblers!
I hope you had a great weekend!
Another week has come, so let's start all over again.

what if you suddenly see a fellow gambler that has been winning continuously (example Poker) and it seems like he's unbeatable on that game, would you care to join him so you could also be winning? Or would you like to beat the guy on his game?

We certainly can't deny the fact that we gamblers can be easily influenced by these kind of scenarios.

Most probably i’ll got jealous and pray that I won continuously as well especially on poker. You can’t join that guy not unless you know him personally or else he will just think that you’re a scam. Gamblers can be more motivated if they saw someone wins a lot of money, that’s a common mindset of people they play with a positive mindset to win more.

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Quote from: imstillthebest on November 12, 2019, 07:44:42 AM

fellow gambler ? that means you know that guy ( ex. he is your friend ) , if it is then yes ii would like to join him and i also like to cheer him if ever i dont have a funds to gamble but if he is only a particular gambler and i still dont know him then i wont join him but i think i will try to compete with him so that i can take over his throne . poker is more of a skill right ? so i can also educate myself to play better and to defeat someone else or to play only for the sake of winning

On every game, there would really be a particular pro into each field so as a player we do really have that kind of same target on which we do want to defeat to those opponents which is better than us to make ourselves somewhat proud as a player.I cant deny that being too good compared to others does boost up some pride and you are proud of yourself.
If you do see a person which is good then jealousy is there which is normal but actually majority would see this as a challenge. I wouldn't join to those who are better than me. Grin

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Quote from: cabalism13 on November 11, 2019, 05:09:16 AM

what if you suddenly see a fellow gambler that has been winning continuously (example Poker) and it seems like he's unbeatable on that game, would you care to join him so you could also be winning? Or would you like to beat the guy on his game?

"That much gathers more .... and that loss leads to greater loss"

I believe in this, so if a fellow gambler is already winning, why try to break his streak? Join him and win with him. When his streaks start to slow down, then that is the time you jump ship and bet against him.

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fellow gambler ? that means you know that guy ( ex. he is your friend ) , if it is then yes ii would like to join him and i also like to cheer him if ever i dont have a funds to gamble but if he is only a particular gambler and i still dont know him then i wont join him but i think i will try to compete with him so that i can take over his throne . poker is more of a skill right ? so i can also educate myself to play better and to defeat someone else or to play only for the sake of winning

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Play with him. As someone who considers gambling as fun and as an entertainment, playing with someone lucky could prove enjoyable. It's like how good players look for other good players as well, instead of looking for those weaker ones. Plus, only those who consider gambling as a way to earn profit would bother finding weaker opponents or unlucky ones.
On the case of gambling though, it's more dependent on luck if you could find a good opponent.

I would think realistically if this was about money, I would join him to get lots of money. but if for fun, it will be pride when we can beat him. because poker is a strategy game so of course I will join him, and learn his strategy to be able to continue to win it.

wise decision lol,anyway we are in gambling to have fun and make money so if thats the case we need to choose between the two,if we want to enjoy or we want to win.

obviously the answer us to win Grin

whatever it takes whats important at this time is the profit?wasn't that?lol

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You need to want more always, so in that case, want to beat him. You will improve that way, look up to someone who is better then you.

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Quote from: Pmalek on November 12, 2019, 05:22:25 AM

I am not sure how joining him could help me win in poker

I was thinking the same, but after a while I came up to an idea about what he meant on "joining him", is to put a percentage on his bet for you to have a share of profit everytime he wins.
I was also thinking about the scenario, anyone on a winning streak won't bother to let you put a passive bet on his game (Poker), not unless if the person is closely related to you. So, the only option left for me to choose is to step up to the challenge and beat the guy at his best game.

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Quote from: btc78 on November 12, 2019, 06:47:53 AM

but what OP says (for Example) so this stands for all games as well..

Yes it is, not just card games.

Quote from: andycarrol on November 12, 2019, 05:45:43 AM

I would think realistically if this was about money, I would join him to get lots of money...

Well as long as you don't blame him for losing when the time you make a bet LoL. There are still chances here that he may end up losing his luck after someone has finally approach them with bets. Still, who knows maybe you can get lots of money out of his efforts so its really a 50-50.

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Quote from: cabalism13 on November 11, 2019, 05:09:16 AM

Hello and what's up fellow users/gamblers!
I hope you had a great weekend!
Another week has come, so let's start all over again.

what if you suddenly see a fellow gambler that has been winning continuously (example Poker) and it seems like he's unbeatable on that game, would you care to join him so you could also be winning? Or would you like to beat the guy on his game?

We certainly can't deny the fact that we gamblers can be easily influenced by these kind of scenarios.

I participated in hundreds of online poker tournaments and played, probably, thousands cash games. Also, I've watched tons of poker related videos on YouTube, presented by FuryTV, PokerStars and such. And, from my experience, there is no such thing as unbeatable poker player. And it's not just because "we all make mistakes" kind of thing. From my point of view, good poker players lose big sometimes not because of their "mistakes", but because of bad luck.

So, I'd rather try my luck on my own instead of shifting responsibility for the possible loss on someone else.

but what OP says (for Example) so this stands for all games as well.or maybe OP is just comparing the card games in Our Local version of Poker as Pusoy ,and in this game we compete with others and if you are lucky you can win continuously as i have experienced the same wayback.

Quote from: Pmalek on November 12, 2019, 05:22:25 AM

I am not sure how joining him could help me win in poker but if he was successful at betting on sports for example I would join him out of curiosity to see what kind of picks he bets on, what information he relies on when choosing a bet, odds etc.

thats one good game to use as example,to win continuously and if he is lucky then might consider betting with him lol.

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Quote from: Wexnident on November 11, 2019, 05:40:00 AM

Play with him. As someone who considers gambling as fun and as an entertainment, playing with someone lucky could prove enjoyable. It's like how good players look for other good players as well, instead of looking for those weaker ones. Plus, only those who consider gambling as a way to earn profit would bother finding weaker opponents or unlucky ones.
On the case of gambling though, it's more dependent on luck if you could find a good opponent.

I would think realistically if this was about money, I would join him to get lots of money. but if for fun, it will be pride when we can beat him. because poker is a strategy game so of course I will join him, and learn his strategy to be able to continue to win it.

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If he's really good in poker then I wont dare to beat or join him since he's lucky (or just skillful) in poker.

I only gamble to have fun and knowing how lucky he is I can already sense what might happen if ever I try to play and I cant afford to lose to someone im aware that is good in poker.

I'd rather watch him and observe his strategy so I can apply it when its my turn.

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Quote from: cabalism13 on November 11, 2019, 05:09:16 AM

Hello and what's up fellow users/gamblers!
I hope you had a great weekend!
Another week has come, so let's start all over again.

what if you suddenly see a fellow gambler that has been winning continuously (example Poker) and it seems like he's unbeatable on that game, would you care to join him so you could also be winning? Or would you like to beat the guy on his game?

We certainly can't deny the fact that we gamblers can be easily influenced by these kind of scenarios.

I participated in hundreds of online poker tournaments and played, probably, thousands cash games. Also, I've watched tons of poker related videos on YouTube, presented by FuryTV, PokerStars and such. And, from my experience, there is no such thing as unbeatable poker player. And it's not just because "we all make mistakes" kind of thing. From my point of view, good poker players lose big sometimes not because of their "mistakes", but because of bad luck.

So, I'd rather try my luck on my own instead of shifting responsibility for the possible loss on someone else.

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I am not sure how joining him could help me win in poker but if he was successful at betting on sports for example I would join him out of curiosity to see what kind of picks he bets on, what information he relies on when choosing a bet, odds etc.

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Quote from: btc_angela on November 12, 2019, 04:57:49 AM

I think your example is wrong here, Poker is a one on one player vs player game, so how can you also be winning if he is winning?

It couldn't be wrong fella, we have something called "sidebet". We spectators can also make our own game while they're playing their game, so if that specific man is continously winning then you could find another opponent to bet whether he wins again or not.
Beating him on his game would be one of the exciting events in this scenario.

Quote from: Reatim on November 11, 2019, 11:04:00 AM

is this serious?we already in Part 5?i have been here since the beginning lol,happy to see it running still,you have a very broad imagination @cabalism13 lol

Yeah mate, we're already on week 5 LoL. This is something like a campaign of what if so it can be longer than the others 🤣 me and my crazy ideas.

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Quote from: cabalism13 on November 11, 2019, 05:09:16 AM

Hello and what's up fellow users/gamblers!
I hope you had a great weekend!
Another week has come, so let's start all over again.

what if you suddenly see a fellow gambler that has been winning continuously (example Poker) and it seems like he's unbeatable on that game, would you care to join him so you could also be winning? Or would you like to beat the guy on his game?

We certainly can't deny the fact that we gamblers can be easily influenced by these kind of scenarios.

I don't care what other say, I would join him and avoid trying to beat him. He's on the zone so I guess it would be hard for this guys to beat. Maybe next time after his winning streak I will be the one to oppose this guy that previously winning.

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Quote from: cabalism13 on November 11, 2019, 05:09:16 AM

Hello and what's up fellow users/gamblers!
I hope you had a great weekend!
Another week has come, so let's start all over again.

what if you suddenly see a fellow gambler that has been winning continuously (example Poker) and it seems like he's unbeatable on that game, would you care to join him so you could also be winning? Or would you like to beat the guy on his game?

We certainly can't deny the fact that we gamblers can be easily influenced by these kind of scenarios.

I don't care what other say, I would join him and avoid trying to beat him. He's on the zone so I guess it would be hard for this guys to beat. Maybe next time after his winning streak I will be the one to oppose this guy that previously winning.

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Quote from: cabalism13 on November 11, 2019, 05:09:16 AM

Hello and what's up fellow users/gamblers!
I hope you had a great weekend!
Another week has come, so let's start all over again.

what if you suddenly see a fellow gambler that has been winning continuously (example Poker) and it seems like he's unbeatable on that game, would you care to join him so you could also be winning? Or would you like to beat the guy on his game?

We certainly can't deny the fact that we gamblers can be easily influenced by these kind of scenarios.

I would not go to try to beat this guy in a poker match. It's hard to go against a player who is very lucky and skilled at the same time. In my years of gambling a land based casino with poker, most of the time that lucky individual with take all the money.

It's better to go and play on another table and seek your own 'luck', instead of sitting with him and try to fight the odds, it won't work believe me.

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Quote from: cabalism13 on November 11, 2019, 05:09:16 AM

Hello and what's up fellow users/gamblers!
I hope you had a great weekend!
Another week has come, so let's start all over again.

what if you suddenly see a fellow gambler that has been winning continuously (example Poker) and it seems like he's unbeatable on that game, would you care to join him so you could also be winning? Or would you like to beat the guy on his game?

We certainly can't deny the fact that we gamblers can be easily influenced by these kind of scenarios.

I think your example is wrong here, Poker is a one on one player vs player game, so how can you also be winning if he is winning?

A good example is baccarat, wherein you can ride with the luckiest guy on the table specially if he is on a winning streak.

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I actually have this experience, not from success gambler and not in poker game but from my close friend in 99Dice. When we see other people keep winning in gambling games, we usually interested to try and maybe think that we can win too. Maybe this is happen to a lot of people. But when i try same strategy like what my friend do, i lose at the end. Grin

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Quote from: swogerino on November 12, 2019, 02:59:44 AM

I would try to beat that guy as I consider myself a strong poker player based on the result I have so far.I only like to play in tournaments like sit and go and not in open tables which are playing normally.If I would manage to beat him that would be a great feeling for me and it would boost my confidence even more.

but poker is only example Mate and it may change at any point,but since you are a poker expert then i may bet on you as well lol.
but like you i think i will try to beat him also (just trying to find my luck)

Quote from: Ailmand on November 11, 2019, 07:58:13 PM

If it is a poker game annif he keeps on winning it means he is really skilled and lucky at the same time. Poker is a game where players cannot depend solely in luck, it requires skills, experience and knowledge about the game also. I would join the player if I think I am out of luck that day even though with a winning card.

good idea mate.try to beat him first and if you are lack of Luck then will join him?you are a true gambler Grin

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Quote from: cabalism13 on November 11, 2019, 05:09:16 AM

Hello and what's up fellow users/gamblers!
I hope you had a great weekend!
Another week has come, so let's start all over again.

what if you suddenly see a fellow gambler that has been winning continuously (example Poker) and it seems like he's unbeatable on that game, would you care to join him so you could also be winning? Or would you like to beat the guy on his game?

We certainly can't deny the fact that we gamblers can be easily influenced by these kind of scenarios.

If I see a fellow gambler winning continuously, I wouldn't dare join that table and play with a guy who is on a roll. I would rather look for another table start my own streak than challenge someone who I think is good in that game (poker) since he/she is winning continuously. If its a dice game, I may join him and place a bet wherever he place his money.

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I would try to beat that guy as I consider myself a strong poker player based on the result I have so far.I only like to play in tournaments like sit and go and not in open tables which are playing normally.If I would manage to beat him that would be a great feeling for me and it would boost my confidence even more.

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Quote from: cabalism13 on November 11, 2019, 05:09:16 AM

Hello and what's up fellow users/gamblers!
I hope you had a great weekend!
Another week has come, so let's start all over again.

what if you suddenly see a fellow gambler that has been winning continuously (example Poker) and it seems like he's unbeatable on that game, would you care to join him so you could also be winning?

Do you mean bet where he's betting? yes, I would join him, that is an opportunity to win some money. but in my experience in local casinos, I've seen gamblers(who keeps winning)
get frustrated when people started betting where he is betting. some gamblers see it as bad luck when other people bet where they're betting.

Quote from: cabalism13 on November 11, 2019, 05:09:16 AM

Or would you like to beat the guy on his game?

I would if I can afford to lose, but I'd be more glad to watch him(only in poker games) and see what would happen when other gamblers who try to challenge him.

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I don't think I can beat the guy on his game because I don't know much about the poker game, so maybe I will stay behind him only, and I guess that to join him will be a great idea. I don't think that he will always win the poker game, although he seems unbeatable. But I will not try to against him because he is my friend. And perhaps, I can try to beat the guy on his game. Maybe, in the end, he will share the win money to me as I help him to beat other people on the same table Grin

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If it is a poker game annif he keeps on winning it means he is really skilled and lucky at the same time. Poker is a game where players cannot depend solely in luck, it requires skills, experience and knowledge about the game also. I would join the player if I think I am out of luck that day even though with a winning card.

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Quote from: cabalism13 on November 11, 2019, 05:09:16 AM

Hello and what's up fellow users/gamblers!
I hope you had a great weekend!
Another week has come, so let's start all over again.

what if you suddenly see a fellow gambler that has been winning continuously (example Poker) and it seems like he's unbeatable on that game, would you care to join him so you could also be winning? Or would you like to beat the guy on his game?

We certainly can't deny the fact that we gamblers can be easily influenced by these kind of scenarios.

It happened to me. I was starting out in the world of sports betting, I studied how it all worked, but as I did more research I found websites that gave tips on the games. I decided to see if the tips they gave were correct. In the first games they got it right. Since they had hit the games, I decided to make 11 bets following their tips, guess what happened? Out of 11 bets I won only 3 bets and lost 8 bets. It would have been much better if I had done my own analysis.

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Poker is a very challenging gambling game and I like people who is very good at it so I would definitely trying to beat him instead of joining him. I believe there's no such thing as unbeatable in gambling maybe it is just a lucky winning streak once beaten the momentum will be gone.

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If I'm going to challenge him but not about the money then, I will try my best. But if we are talking about the money I bet with him just to beat him in a poker No, I'm not. Why are you going against him that you know his capability of playing poker? I think the best move is trying to be close to him and then ask him what those strategies he uses. But that is rarely to happen now, poker is still based on luck in my own opinion.

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Great yeah, another series of what if. Cheesy

That scenario was really tempted to gamble. I won't beat him nor join him on a table, I am sure I am going to lose if I do that. All I can do is watch him and study his moved and technique and apply it when you are in gambling, of course without him. I'd like to meet that kind of person that has the ability to make money in gambling. Indeed, so far, I did not encounter on that kind of person.

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Quote from: panjul07 on November 11, 2019, 05:54:26 AM

Quote from: cabalism13 on November 11, 2019, 05:09:16 AM

what if you suddenly see a fellow gambler that has been winning continuously (example Poker) and it seems like he's unbeatable on that game, would you care to join him so you could also be winning? Or would you like to beat the guy on his game?

I would be interested to beat him instead of to join him, simply because I like poker and it would be nice to play against someone who is so great in poker game. I would not care losing some money (not much) if I can play against professional poker player as it would be something like unforgettable story in my life. If I win against him then it will be great as I can beat great player but if I lose then at least I can feel the beauty of playing poker against a great player.

Same insights and same inputs into this kind of situation.I would never consider on joining him but rather going against to this guy/player.
It always been challenging to meet up someone which is better than you and i do like the feel on beating up someone whom i do know which
is good into this kind of field as said when you beat up a good player then you can really consider yourself to be much more better than those
pro players.

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Quote from: cabalism13 on November 11, 2019, 05:09:16 AM

Hello and what's up fellow users/gamblers!
I hope you had a great weekend!
Another week has come, so let's start all over again.

what if you suddenly see a fellow gambler that has been winning continuously (example Poker) and it seems like he's unbeatable on that game, would you care to join him so you could also be winning? Or would you like to beat the guy on his game?

We certainly can't deny the fact that we gamblers can be easily influenced by these kind of scenarios.

do i need to think?lol the luck is on him so i will surely bet with him and try to accumulate as many wins with him.

imagine given a chance like that?for sure i will grab the opportunity to win big like him,i may bet bigger and bigger until the bankers bankrupt lol.thats what i do just to make some good amount.

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If it's about money, not my pride I will absolutely join him right away but if it's about my pride I would prefer to challenge and beat him/her. First I need to observe his/her playstyle if he has some tricks or anything and finds his weakness if he has. It feels satisfying if you have beaten the best and it is very challenging and fun.

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i am a type of person that loves challenge so definitely?i will challenge him as it was a chance to break his luck.

i would rather lose than trying to reverse the luck of joining him and let take the bigger cash on table.

and besides it is happier to lose and thats my stand.

is this serious?we already in Part 5?i have been here since the beginning lol,happy to see it running still,you have a very broad imagination @cabalism13 lol

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Most of the time, when my friends in particular are playing, I'm joining them. And when one of my friend is on streak playing poker, I think I might think twice before joining. Since he's my friend, I think I could get some part of his winnings in the end lol. I believe on a scenario in which if you ask for money for a streak player, he'll eventually will lose some streak. That was happening on me most of the time.

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As people have different luck in gambling, I will just congratulate him and watch his move to know if can learn some strategies from him (if he's using any) and will just play the next time he's not around to test if what he seems doing will work on me. This is if in casino or a real place where I can see him personally if thru gambling online I don't think we can't do anything on it since we'll not know if he's serious or bluffing if we copied his moves.

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I always got a bad vibe on a person if this happens I just ignore it and go on and will not engage with him, But if I would have a good vibe over him then playing will be a good thing and as a friendly game only, well, I am saying this because I think if you are not in good terms with a person I think the best way is to just ignore them.

I guess by doing this you would not have an emotional thing and not let anyone just ruin your great day I think it will surely depend on a person vibe you just need to be cautious in things like these because getting good results in poker sometimes come when you are just enjoying things.

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Quote from: cabalism13 on November 11, 2019, 05:09:16 AM

Hello and what's up fellow users/gamblers!
I hope you had a great weekend!
Another week has come, so let's start all over again.

what if you suddenly see a fellow gambler that has been winning continuously (example Poker) and it seems like he's unbeatable on that game, would you care to join him so you could also be winning? Or would you like to beat the guy on his game?

We certainly can't deny the fact that we gamblers can be easily influenced by these kind of scenarios.

In my own opinion, i would rather join him and won't go against him because i also wanted to get a taste of his good luck, which i could double or triple my profit by just joining on his bet. But there are also gamblers at the casino, who are selfish or they do not want other people to join them when they are winning continuously because they think that it could ruined their good luck and will turn to bad luck, that is why you should be asking to a fellow gambler first before joining on their bet.

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Quote from: cabalism13 on November 11, 2019, 05:09:16 AM

what if you suddenly see a fellow gambler that has been winning continuously (example Poker) and it seems like he's unbeatable on that game, would you care to join him so you could also be winning? Or would you like to beat the guy on his game?

I certainly won't go against him. That kind of player is likely to be far more skilled than I am. If I could join and make some winning out of him or learn his strategy I obviously would go down that path instead of going against someone who's either on a lucky streak or simply more skilled.

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Quote from: cabalism13 on November 11, 2019, 05:09:16 AM

what if you suddenly see a fellow gambler that has been winning continuously (example Poker) and it seems like he's unbeatable on that game, would you care to join him so you could also be winning? Or would you like to beat the guy on his game?

We certainly can't deny the fact that we gamblers can be easily influenced by these kind of scenarios.

Although I don't want to be one of his victim or get in his list whom he beat but I want to challenge that guy, I'm not really good at poker but maybe this guy can give me some tips on how he plays, it will be a good challenge for me, since he is a very good player and that's a good way to improve your game by playing a good player with a good run of winning, so lose or win I'll still going to have a good experience.

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It depends if he's approachable enough to let me talk to him or even join him. But first, of course, I will watch and observe how he played the game then I will play with him. Not totally beat him, but just to experience playing with someone who seems to be unbeatable. I guess I'm lucky enough if I am able to beat him but if not, then I won't push myself because it will be a loss to me.

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His unbeatable probably can inspiring me to be like him but this is gambling and luck for every person will not be same and actually there is no player can always win in gambling so this possibility almost near to impossible but as this is only if then my answers is if he unbeatable then i will asking to him what method did he use to be like that and if supose can i want to learn it from him directly

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Quote from: cabalism13 on November 11, 2019, 05:09:16 AM

Hello and what's up fellow users/gamblers!
I hope you had a great weekend!
Another week has come, so let's start all over again.

what if you suddenly see a fellow gambler that has been winning continuously (example Poker) and it seems like he's unbeatable on that game, would you care to join him so you could also be winning? Or would you like to beat the guy on his game?

We certainly can't deny the fact that we gamblers can be easily influenced by these kind of scenarios.

If that's the case then I would just join him if I could,
He is a good gambler and I don't think that I could beat someone in gambling specially if they already prove their skills on the game.
I don't really have that kind of skill I usually depend on luck .

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Quote from: cabalism13 on November 11, 2019, 05:09:16 AM

what if you suddenly see a fellow gambler that has been winning continuously (example Poker) and it seems like he's unbeatable on that game, would you care to join him so you could also be winning? Or would you like to beat the guy on his game?

I would probably think he's cheating, so no I wouldn't join him and most definitely I wouldn't be playing against him. The other thing is that people who win a lot often end up losing a lot so I wouldn't want to get involved in that.

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To join him as a player or use our money together, so we have a bigger winning? If I am not good at a poker game, I don't want to join him as a player because I only risk my money without a chance to win.

But if I can use my money to be used with his money, maybe I will do that, but I don't want to use big money as I am not sure that he can always be unbeatable.

But I don't want to beat the guy on his game if I don't have skills because that will be useless for me to play poker. It is better to watch the game or use the money together with him, so if he wins, we can win a lot of money.

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Quote from: cabalism13 on November 11, 2019, 05:09:16 AM

...would you care to join him so you could also be winning?

This will depend if I really know him personally then I will join him, there just some gambler that are not happy being joined or being copied on their strategies, this thing may lead to fight also if that fellow is too full of himself.

Quote from: cabalism13 on November 11, 2019, 05:09:16 AM

Or would you like to beat the guy on his game?

If first option won't work and his trying to be arrogant, then beating him can atleast loss his ego. It will depends on the character of that fellow,what our actions can be.

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Quote from: cabalism13 on November 11, 2019, 05:09:16 AM

Hello and what's up fellow users/gamblers!
I hope you had a great weekend!
Another week has come, so let's start all over again.

what if you suddenly see a fellow gambler that has been winning continuously (example Poker) and it seems like he's unbeatable on that game, would you care to join him so you could also be winning? Or would you like to beat the guy on his game?

We certainly can't deny the fact that we gamblers can be easily influenced by these kind of scenarios.

No, I won't unless I am as skillful as him. I will assume he is doing well due to his good gambling skill/gift and I'd probably ask him to teach me (if it's teachable) or I will take my time to learn it somewhere else.
As regards "beating the other guy on his game", depend how skilful the guy is. I guess I will start with small bet with him to undertand his skills, strengths and weaknesses

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A gambler who continues to win does not mean that he never loses, before choosing to join or beat first I will look at the type of game, if the type of game where he often wins is not that I like I will choose to join but if on the opposite, then I will choose beat because I wants to learn how he can win that games and also hopes that I can beat him occasionally and feel the sensation of winning from a great gambler.

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Quote from: cabalism13 on November 11, 2019, 05:09:16 AM

what if you suddenly see a fellow gambler that has been winning continuously (example Poker) and it seems like he's unbeatable on that game, would you care to join him so you could also be winning? Or would you like to beat the guy on his game?

Hello cabalism13, a great day for all of us, especially poker casino gambling addicts.
5th phase in comments, interesting questions.

Not a few people complained this weekend, many people jumped to lose bets.

The point of conversation, for me personally to think positively of people who always win in gambling bets, that's the fortune he is in betting.
I think that every person in this world is already set by God, there is good luck in gambling, business, etc.
And there are also bad luck in the betting section, etc.

So, for me it will not force myself to join in gambling, if I see other people continue to win and win the right he has set, we are not necessarily the same fate as that person.

So, I would think a hundred times when seeing other people succeed in gambling, we don't need to be cold when other people buy refrigerators.

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Quote from: cabalism13 on November 11, 2019, 05:09:16 AM

Hello and what's up fellow users/gamblers!
I hope you had a great weekend!
Another week has come, so let's start all over again.

what if you suddenly see a fellow gambler that has been winning continuously (example Poker) and it seems like he's unbeatable on that game, would you care to join him so you could also be winning? Or would you like to beat the guy on his game?

We certainly can't deny the fact that we gamblers can be easily influenced by these kind of scenarios.

If he's good at it then why not join him instead of trying to beat him, we all have a day where we are good and lucky and sometimes these days extends so if he is having a great time and continuously, let's give it to him, it's ok to be influenced it's not easy to have a continous win in a game like Poker and Dice.

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Quote from: cabalism13 on November 11, 2019, 05:09:16 AM

what if you suddenly see a fellow gambler that has been winning continuously (example Poker) and it seems like he's unbeatable on that game, would you care to join him so you could also be winning? Or would you like to beat the guy on his game?

I would be interested to beat him instead of to join him, simply because I like poker and it would be nice to play against someone who is so great in poker game. I would not care losing some money (not much) if I can play against professional poker player as it would be something like unforgettable story in my life. If I win against him then it will be great as I can beat great player but if I lose then at least I can feel the beauty of playing poker against a great player.

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Play with him. As someone who considers gambling as fun and as an entertainment, playing with someone lucky could prove enjoyable. It's like how good players look for other good players as well, instead of looking for those weaker ones. Plus, only those who consider gambling as a way to earn profit would bother finding weaker opponents or unlucky ones.
On the case of gambling though, it's more dependent on luck if you could find a good opponent.

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Quote from: cabalism13 on November 11, 2019, 05:09:16 AM

Hello and what's up fellow users/gamblers!
I hope you had a great weekend!
Another week has come, so let's start all over again.

what if you suddenly see a fellow gambler that has been winning continuously (example Poker) and it seems like he's unbeatable on that game, would you care to join him so you could also be winning? Or would you like to beat the guy on his game?

We certainly can't deny the fact that we gamblers can be easily influenced by these kind of scenarios.

in our culture theres a saying of Badluck in Gambling,like what you have said he is continuously winning and betting with him might stop his Streak.

but the other option is also risky ,trying to beat his Luck?

well maybe i will try both,i will try to go with Him first and if i dont succeed then i will do the next option of betting against him to try my own luck as well.

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Hello and what's up fellow users/gamblers!
I hope you had a great weekend!
Another week has come, so let's start all over again.

what if you suddenly see a fellow gambler that has been winning continuously (example Poker) and it seems like he's unbeatable on that game, would you care to join him so you could also be winning? Or would you like to beat the guy on his game?

We certainly can't deny the fact that we gamblers can be easily influenced by these kind of scenarios.

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