What is Gambling? ChatGPT Responses.

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Actually, I'm not too curious about ChatGPT and I'm still waiting for further news from each developer. But it seems that this year, big operators like Google, Yahoo, and others are starting to launch this AI-based ChatGPT program. And each operator claims that their AI is better than its rivals.

This will probably speed up the AI trend to the surface as many people are interested in these AI-based projects. And maybe this will also allow gambling developers to develop gambling-based AI, such as collecting sports betting information and inviting people to try it before they launch it to the public.

To predict the outcomes of fights in boxing and MMA, there has been an AI engine for almost a year, as the developers say, which specializes in analyzing data on martial arts called MartialBot, of course it will not answer the question of what gambling is, but the forecast for the fight can be checked.

I highly doubt the accuracy of such tool.The reason for that is that MMA is physical fighting between two persons.No AI or app in the world can know the physical form of each of the athletes,the favorite for example may have been drinking and abusing his physical condition while the underdog maybe preparing at the maximum of his capacity and even going further,in such scenario we would see a surprise result in the betting context as the underdog is going to win the match between these two.Tell me how can the AI or app predict the physical condition and behavior of a fighter?Pretty much worthless and impossible in such case for the MMA.

Yes, you are right that AI cannot guarantee you an accurate forecast for the outcome of a fight or match, because human behavior is sometimes not predictable, but we can just use this tool to improve the accuracy of the forecast that's all.

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Quote from: Saint-loup on February 10, 2023, 05:58:48 PM

It's an interesting experience but I'm still looking for someone able to leverage its abilities and skills for real help in gambling, at online casinos or at land based one thanks to a smartphone. But unfortunately I think the level ChatGPT AI is still too low to give a concrete help for any gambling game yet, sadly. Maybe in few years we will see enhanced AI able to do that though.

Since ChatGPT has been famous for providing questions to almost anything, will it be possible if we can also ask this AI about betting tips and techniques? Not to mention, will it also provide some interesting feedback about gambling-related questions in general?

So I actually tried it and the response of the AI is actually very helpful and supportive. Not only did it consider the perspective of the gambler, but it also provided useful feedback that majority of us also shared in this forum.

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Quote from: serjent05 on February 12, 2023, 04:59:13 PM

I do not see any difference on the reply of AI on different age criteria.

The main difference is between the first one and the other 3. AI seems to know that children and teenagers operate using simplified language so its responses are more brief and on point. It knows there's no point talking about taxes, jurisdictions and so on. A teenager will not lose big money anyway.
The responses were very good. It did the best within the specified parameters.
I'd rather see it respond to other questions related to gambling like if it can recommend a good strategy, what it thinks of martingale, if it thinks online gambling beats physical casinos, and so on.

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Quote from: dothebeats on February 11, 2023, 02:37:01 PM

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When we're bored, we can ask anything to chatgpt. All of its answers are based on the facts that are given to it but I wonder how they have programmed this AI.
It's like almost every response that it gives is near accurate but not all of it. If it's related to this topic asking a bot about what gambling is, we'll just get generic answers from it.

The AI is continuously learning through neural networks. It's like training it to speak over and over again based on the inputs that it's receiving from users and from its original data set. It's programmed in a way to learn just like the brain, and its AI is really intelligent to get accurate results/responses to whatever question it's thrown at. For the gambling aspect, well it's a pretty basic concept, and it just needs to interchange between words that it deems appropriate to use based on the nature of the question.

For those that often use it, if you don't like that it's giving answers there's now an option to pay for it. That's around $20/mo and that's going to give you faster response and some other features. This is why I don't like anything that Microsoft gets on its hand, those that they touch are becoming ugly but it's a business and a technology that's really desirable to make money out of it. Yeah, it might still be on its infancy and time will come that it will get used to its wordings and we'll see the improvement of it relatively to the topics being asked including gambling.

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I do not see any difference on the reply of AI on different age criteria. It is all about gambling responsibly, although some words are replaced in order to meet the possible "understanding" of that age level.

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Quote from: Saint-loup on February 10, 2023, 05:58:48 PM

It's an interesting experience but I'm still looking for someone able to leverage its abilities and skills for real help in gambling, at online casinos or at land based one thanks to a smartphone. But unfortunately I think the level ChatGPT AI is still too low to give a concrete help for any gambling game yet, sadly. Maybe in few years we will see enhanced AI able to do that though.

In the end, ChatGPT would only tell that gambling is risky as it is, so one should always gamble at its own risk. But if you are expecting to get better answers from ChatGPT like giving you strategies to win or analyzing some bets for you, this AI machine will never be capable for that. That’s why we should still use our human minds when it comes to gambling, as gambling needs more focus and good thinking analysis if we want bigger chances if winning.

Well, AI will only reply on what kind of input their developer set in their system. So basically the statement will revolve around that idea. If you need help or assistance, nothing beats a support staff in answering your inquiries. If you need help due to gambling addiction, chatgpt won't and will never help you recover, they can refer some services that is fed to its system, but it is limited on that thing.

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The main message for me is gamble with what you can afford to lose and seek help if you think it is affecting you negatively.

Asking questions basing up on age and its responses doesnt really differ that much. lol. Basing up on simple understanding then gambling is something that that you do risks up money for earning money.
Gambling is something for fun and at the same time you are really that risking something.Of course you should really be that accepting that you should only spend the amount that you can afford to lose.

In fact, the game of chance ends up having the same vision/indifferent purpose of the idea that the person has.

I think this answer could have more differences if it was questioned based on the laws/housing in a certain country, because there are countries where the game is fully released while in others it can lead to a life sentence.

The divergence of answers to this type of question can also be much more related to religions, as all the customs, habits and laws that we have today were directly shaped by the religions that surround us.

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Quote from: Viscore on February 12, 2023, 04:30:28 PM

Quote from: Saint-loup on February 10, 2023, 05:58:48 PM

It's an interesting experience but I'm still looking for someone able to leverage its abilities and skills for real help in gambling, at online casinos or at land based one thanks to a smartphone. But unfortunately I think the level ChatGPT AI is still too low to give a concrete help for any gambling game yet, sadly. Maybe in few years we will see enhanced AI able to do that though.

In the end, ChatGPT would only tell that gambling is risky as it is, so one should always gamble at its own risk. But if you are expecting to get better answers from ChatGPT like giving you strategies to win or analyzing some bets for you, this AI machine will never be capable for that. That’s why we should still use our human minds when it comes to gambling, as gambling needs more focus and good thinking analysis if we want bigger chances if winning.

it has limitations certainly, and will only give answers what it is programmed to do. definitely its capability depends on what has been feed into it. people should not expect that this AI will give them strategies to win, that is still far from its capability. if that is actually possible in the future, i don't think casinos will have their business anymore, as they will just close their business because they will be screwed by these AIs.

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Quote from: Saint-loup on February 10, 2023, 05:58:48 PM

It's an interesting experience but I'm still looking for someone able to leverage its abilities and skills for real help in gambling, at online casinos or at land based one thanks to a smartphone. But unfortunately I think the level ChatGPT AI is still too low to give a concrete help for any gambling game yet, sadly. Maybe in few years we will see enhanced AI able to do that though.

In the end, ChatGPT would only tell that gambling is risky as it is, so one should always gamble at its own risk. But if you are expecting to get better answers from ChatGPT like giving you strategies to win or analyzing some bets for you, this AI machine will never be capable for that. That’s why we should still use our human minds when it comes to gambling, as gambling needs more focus and good thinking analysis if we want bigger chances if winning.

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Quote from: Kakmakr on February 12, 2023, 01:22:28 PM

I think you should accept that the average person on the street agree that there are a huge chance that most people will not understand the basics about gambling, because they mostly play Slots and a lot of them has never won anything big.

The way to explain gambling to someone is to tell them that gambling is not a way to make profit.... lower your expectations and ignore the bells and whistles ....because most of that will cloud your judgement and increase your greed trigger. Roll Eyes

They agree that there is a huge chance on winning in gambling? That can be because they are less educated and they already experience to win big before and the winnings can sometimes occur often. For us who are more experienced and has more knowledge towards gambling, we know that it is hard to win on it even if one plays on a legit casino.

We are only talking about the definition of gambling here so our response must also be about it or how it is played and how it is originated. If someone asks us deeper than that like if gambling is profitable or not? That is the time for us to tell that that gambling is a very risky activity in terms of earning a profit.

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We can see that this ChatGPT did a good job on the first paragraph but the rest is just repeating. I even think that the second paragraph is more jargon than the last two paragraphs but the only thing that I like is that ChatGPT cares and says the golden rule of gambling which is we should only gamble what we can afford to lose.

This is something that can't be seen if we simply search the meaning of gambling in our favourite search engines. I won't wonder if one day ChatGPT is soon going to be included on our phones as a replacement to the late siri made by apple and google assistant for android because it's more smarter and it's more than just an AI.

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Quote from: Davidvictorson on February 10, 2023, 04:00:00 PM

I saw a similar post in the bitcoin discussion board and decided to do the same thing but with gambling. I played around with ChatGPT and asked it to explain what gambling is, like I am a 5 year old, 15 year old, 25 year old, and 50 year old. See the responses below:

"Explain gambling to me like I am a 5 year old"

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Gambling is when you play a game to try to win something, like money or toys. It's a little bit like playing a game of luck, like rolling dice or flipping a coin. If you guess right, you might win something, but if you guess wrong, you might not get anything. Just like in any game, it's important to remember to only play with things you can afford to lose, and never to gamble more than you can afford.

Explain gambling to me like I am a 15 year old

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Gambling is the act of betting or wagering on an event with an uncertain outcome, with the primary intent of winning extra money or material goods. It can take many forms, such as playing the stock market, betting on sports, playing casino games like poker or slot machines, or buying lottery tickets. However, it's important to keep in mind that there is always a risk involved in gambling and it's possible to lose money. Additionally, it's crucial to make sure that you only gamble what you can afford to lose and to never let it become a harmful addiction.

Explain gambling to me like I am a 25 year old

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Gambling refers to the act of betting or wagering on an event or game with an uncertain outcome, usually with the intention of winning additional money or material goods. Gambling activities can range from traditional casino games like blackjack and roulette to sports betting and online games like poker. It's important to understand that gambling always involves some degree of risk, and it's possible to lose money. Additionally, it's important to be responsible and only gamble within one's means, and to never let it negatively impact one's life. It's also crucial to be aware of and understand the laws and regulations surrounding gambling in your jurisdiction.

Explain gambling to me like I am a 50 year old

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Gambling refers to the act of risking money or something of value on an event with an uncertain outcome, with the expectation of winning more money or material goods. It can take many forms, including casino games, sports betting, online gaming, and lotteries. While gambling can be a source of entertainment for some, it's important to understand that it also involves risk and there is a potential for losing money. It's important to be responsible and only gamble within one's means, and to be aware of and understand the laws and regulations surrounding gambling in your jurisdiction. Additionally, it's important to recognize when gambling may become a problem and to seek help if necessary.

The main message for me is gamble with what you can afford to lose and seek help if you think it is affecting you negatively.

To me it shows that ChatGPT maybe not all it's made out to be, because while the explanation in the words of a 5 year old might get it right, there is less distinguishing between the other ages. A 15 year old might firstly struggle to understand the context as it was described and could take away the wrong impression from it that the stock market is gambling - it definitely is not if done correctly and shows a bad interpretation of the data that this system has ingested from others. I'm not sure there really needs to be much distinction between a 25 and a 50 year old because most people have formed their long term views by the age of 25 and potentially won't change their opinion of basic concepts after that age.

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Quote from: Kakmakr on February 12, 2023, 01:22:28 PM

I think you should accept that the average person on the street agree that there are a huge chance that most people will not understand the basics about gambling, because they mostly play Slots and a lot of them has never won anything big.

The way to explain gambling to someone is to tell them that gambling is not a way to make profit.... lower your expectations and ignore the bells and whistles ....because most of that will cloud your judgement and increase your greed trigger. Roll Eyes

Because chst got is just being loaded from a database, sometimes it is just us who misinterpret some things because for me? therl answer is plain and correct, AI doesn't have feeling it cannot give you sympathy nor empathy. All in all, gambling is not a bad thing for me, it so happen that people greed tend to grow each day and their guard to themselves are being broken.

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I think you should accept that the average person on the street agree that there are a huge chance that most people will not understand the basics about gambling, because they mostly play Slots and a lot of them has never won anything big.

The way to explain gambling to someone is to tell them that gambling is not a way to make profit.... lower your expectations and ignore the bells and whistles ....because most of that will cloud your judgement and increase your greed trigger. Roll Eyes

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Quote from: Mauser on February 12, 2023, 03:50:33 AM

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The main message for me is gamble with what you can afford to lose and seek help if you think it is affecting you negatively.

It seems like that ChatGPT always gives the same answer and only uses a more sophisticated language the older the audience. Reading through the responses it's very clear statements about what gambling is. There is no positive or negative language involved, to me it sounds very neutral. I am kind of relieved that there is no bias from ChatGPT against gambling. In todays political correct and highly politicised society I would have expected some developers to add negative language to it. It's good that the Ai advises any age group about the risks involved in gambling and that people should only use the money that they can afford to lose. Only thing missing now is that ChatGPT gives us a winning gambling strategy.

I fear it could be just a matter of time until ChatGPT adopts a politically correct stance towards gambling, because it's being heavily patroled by enthusiasts of that agenda and consequently answering the questions from other subjects like those people demand it to answer. It's said the AI is constantly learning new things, and each day I see news about it, there are more and more prints from politically correct replies which makes the AI looks completely brainwashed and far-fetched.

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Quote from: Davidvictorson on February 10, 2023, 04:00:00 PM

The main message for me is gamble with what you can afford to lose and seek help if you think it is affecting you negatively.

It seems like that ChatGPT always gives the same answer and only uses a more sophisticated language the older the audience. Reading through the responses it's very clear statements about what gambling is. There is no positive or negative language involved, to me it sounds very neutral. I am kind of relieved that there is no bias from ChatGPT against gambling. In todays political correct and highly politicised society I would have expected some developers to add negative language to it. It's good that the Ai advises any age group about the risks involved in gambling and that people should only use the money that they can afford to lose. Only thing missing now is that ChatGPT gives us a winning gambling strategy.

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Quote from: dothebeats on February 11, 2023, 02:37:01 PM

Quote from: passwordnow on February 11, 2023, 03:14:59 AM

When we're bored, we can ask anything to chatgpt. All of its answers are based on the facts that are given to it but I wonder how they have programmed this AI.
It's like almost every response that it gives is near accurate but not all of it. If it's related to this topic asking a bot about what gambling is, we'll just get generic answers from it.

The AI is continuously learning through neural networks. It's like training it to speak over and over again based on the inputs that it's receiving from users and from its original data set. It's programmed in a way to learn just like the brain, and its AI is really intelligent to get accurate results/responses to whatever question it's thrown at. For the gambling aspect, well it's a pretty basic concept, and it just needs to interchange between words that it deems appropriate to use based on the nature of the question.

The developer will always develop AI to provide more detailed information than the previous version so that people will feel satisfied using AI.
Some people predict that this AI can replace the function of workers in companies because by using AI, AI can complete work faster and they can achieve the accuracy they want.
And even now, the development of AI technology has become increasingly competitive and many developers are trying to play an active role in creating AI for various functions.
Maybe the information provided by AI is not enough for us at the moment, but in the future, it can be improved by the developers.
And for gambling, there will be AI technology that can help gamblers win the game but that will not stop casinos from benefiting from losing gamblers.

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Quote from: dothebeats on February 11, 2023, 02:37:01 PM

Quote from: passwordnow on February 11, 2023, 03:14:59 AM

When we're bored, we can ask anything to chatgpt. All of its answers are based on the facts that are given to it but I wonder how they have programmed this AI.
It's like almost every response that it gives is near accurate but not all of it. If it's related to this topic asking a bot about what gambling is, we'll just get generic answers from it.

The AI is continuously learning through neural networks. It's like training it to speak over and over again based on the inputs that it's receiving from users and from its original data set. It's programmed in a way to learn just like the brain, and its AI is really intelligent to get accurate results/responses to whatever question it's thrown at. For the gambling aspect, well it's a pretty basic concept, and it just needs to interchange between words that it deems appropriate to use based on the nature of the question.

At first I didn't believe that ChatGPT is given Reinforcement learning given the fact that most of its data is gathered from the net during 2021 and before. But it helps to know that ChatGPT is learning from the way humans respond to it. As of now ChatGPT, and I say this as a writer myself, talks like a 5th-6th grader, but I have high confidence that it can improve with its language model and be able to perform better feats in the future, such as predicting various outcomes based on given data. Although I would just like to point out that what it boasts in intelligence, it lacks in confidence, you can literally bully it into thinking that 57 is a prime number, or 2+2=5 for that matter, so that is something that OpenAI should work on if they want ChatGPT to be a reliable source of information like they're making it out to be.

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Quote from: swogerino on February 11, 2023, 03:12:32 AM

I highly doubt the accuracy of such tool.The reason for that is that MMA is physical fighting between two persons.No AI or app in the world can know the physical form of each of the athletes,the favorite for example may have been drinking and abusing his physical condition while the underdog maybe preparing at the maximum of his capacity and even going further,in such scenario we would see a surprise result in the betting context as the underdog is going to win the match between these two.Tell me how can the AI or app predict the physical condition and behavior of a fighter?Pretty much worthless and impossible in such case for the MMA.

Actually, it's not with accuracy to the point that the program will really predict the winner but the information that the AI program will provide can be taken as a reference. Since the program has wide access to anything, there might be some key pointers that these AI can provide in order for sports bettors to form a good analysis of a certain match.

It's like an improve and upgraded version of a sports pick analysis by some sports websites that provided their respective fearless forecast about a certain match. Using the ChatGPT, might give us more useful information regarding the match but obviously, our pick still depends on our own.

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Quote from: dothebeats on February 11, 2023, 02:37:01 PM

Quote from: passwordnow on February 11, 2023, 03:14:59 AM

When we're bored, we can ask anything to chatgpt. All of its answers are based on the facts that are given to it but I wonder how they have programmed this AI.
It's like almost every response that it gives is near accurate but not all of it. If it's related to this topic asking a bot about what gambling is, we'll just get generic answers from it.

The AI is continuously learning through neural networks. It's like training it to speak over and over again based on the inputs that it's receiving from users and from its original data set. It's programmed in a way to learn just like the brain, and its AI is really intelligent to get accurate results/responses to whatever question it's thrown at. For the gambling aspect, well it's a pretty basic concept, and it just needs to interchange between words that it deems appropriate to use based on the nature of the question.

Yes, it would really be basing up on what are the things that had been fed up which it would really be just a common response i would say and just like the rest been saying that it is really just that a very common definition if we do speak about on whats gambling.All of those responses are really that based up on someones definition that had been input up and there's no shocking thing about it.
People nowadays are really that too mindful about dealing up with something even with the basic or the most easiest thing to be done but still due to curiosity they do really love
on attaching things specially into these AI's.

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Quote from: Davidvictorson on February 10, 2023, 04:00:00 PM

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I don't understand why you created this thread in the first place. If you were to ask any gambler who communicates on this forum he would tell you the same, because this is one of the basic precepts of lovers of risk. You have to understand that gambling is more likely to leave you broke than make you rich. Don't let yourself lose too much and then you'll be fine.

If you drink 50 grams of red wine after dinner you won't become an alcoholic, but if you drink one bottle every day you will obviously get the disease. It's the same with gambling.

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Quote from: passwordnow on February 11, 2023, 03:14:59 AM

When we're bored, we can ask anything to chatgpt. All of its answers are based on the facts that are given to it but I wonder how they have programmed this AI.
It's like almost every response that it gives is near accurate but not all of it. If it's related to this topic asking a bot about what gambling is, we'll just get generic answers from it.

The AI is continuously learning through neural networks. It's like training it to speak over and over again based on the inputs that it's receiving from users and from its original data set. It's programmed in a way to learn just like the brain, and its AI is really intelligent to get accurate results/responses to whatever question it's thrown at. For the gambling aspect, well it's a pretty basic concept, and it just needs to interchange between words that it deems appropriate to use based on the nature of the question.

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It took that long to explain to a kid what gambling is. When its explained by a hustler it would just be very easy to get by a kid and it wouldn't sound like a financial advice. But gambling to a teen, you wouldn't have to explain. They probably know more new games than we do.

But lets say the AI is integrated into a robot that supposedly a nanny to a kid and the kid asks something like what is gambling, the robot nanny may just have to explain further and demonstrate some games.

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Quote from: Davidvictorson on February 10, 2023, 04:00:00 PM

The main message for me is gamble with what you can afford to lose and seek help if you think it is affecting you negatively.

Seriously I have never tried to use ChatGPT. but it seems, worth for me to try. talking about your chat with ChatGPT, the answer is very relatively common and safe. but by the way, I doubt if a five year old asks ChatGPT about gambling. other than that, the messages you get from chatting with ChatGPT are very generic messages. because, we are very well aware, that gambling is an entertainment activity that is at high risk and has a high potential to lose something that has previously been at stake. maybe if the question you ask on ChatGPT is not as simple as what you ask, chances are the answers will vary relatively. for example what is the impact of gambling, or is there a way to recover from addiction.

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Quote from: xSkylarx on February 11, 2023, 09:32:01 AM

The way the ChatGPT explains this is almost the same; it is just that the things that it is giving as an example are just appropriate to the age, but again, the message was to control ourselves and also spend only what we can afford to lose. Though it is the basics to not do in gambling, many of us fail because this is more difficult to do. But as long as we are mindful of what we are doing in gambling, we can prevent this, and if those who are already addicted to gambling seek help from professionals, they can be cured.

The main idea is, gambling is too risky for everyone regardless of age especially if they can't deal with the risks. Yes, we can't define it based on the level of a person's understanding but the thought will always be the same. We can enjoy gambling and see it as a source of entertainment but when abused, we will surely lose track. Abused of gambling could lead to compulsive betting which might also lead to worse cases if not cured or controlled.

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You can define gambling with many approach base on the age or categories of the game you're interested in playing while gambling, but i will have to say mine in a general terms what gambling means to me, gambling is a series of sports, games and bettings associated with playing them whenever we are in the mood to play, have fun during our leisure time, gambling is what makes friendliness according to historical believes, though it involves using money to gamble and you can as well get some earnings from gambling either of the ways while some looses as well when they gamble their money.

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Quote from: Betwrong on February 11, 2023, 09:17:13 AM

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I think the only two words a 5 year old can understand in this answer are "play" and "toys". I can't test it right now, no kids of 5 years old around, but that's what I remember from the times when my kids were around that age.

If someone has this opportunity, please read that text to them aloud and tell about their reaction.

And all the other explanations are almost identical, no? Like there is no difference between a 15 year old and 50 year old. Honestly, I expected much more from ChatGPT.

I think that explanation for 5 years old kids is ridiculous. Especially the part:

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...Just like in any game, it's important to remember to only play with things you can afford to lose, and never to gamble more than you can afford.

Kids cry when they lose, and explaining to them what is "afford to lose" in any game is pretty hard, but of course, with constant repeating and explaining the kid will learn after some time. My daughter is 4 and a half years old, and in the last few weeks I am trying to explain to her the term "risk"... I will only say it's not so simple and easy, but repeating is the mother of learning, and of course, the pain from making too risky stunts can be a good motivation.
Anyway, I wouldn't dare to even try explaining gambling to a 5-year-old kid, it's too early! It's simple to manipulate kids and move their point of interest, just say "It's nothing interesting/It's bad/It's not for kids/ETC" and move the topic to something else. Some kids can be advanced or not, it's up to a parent to see the kid's possibility to fully understand something. And it's pretty easy to spot it, kids don't hide when they are interested in something...

As for other answers, it's nothing special... This ChatGPT is pretty hyped, but to be honest, I don't see anything special in all that.

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The way the ChatGPT explains this is almost the same; it is just that the things that it is giving as an example are just appropriate to the age, but again, the message was to control ourselves and also spend only what you can afford to lose. Though it is the basics to not do in gambling, many of us fail because this is more difficult to do. But as long as we are mindful of what we are doing in gambling, we can prevent this, and if those who are already addicted to gambling seek help from professionals, they can be cured.

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Quote from: Davidvictorson on February 10, 2023, 04:00:00 PM

I saw a similar post in the bitcoin discussion board and decided to do the same thing but with gambling. I played around with ChatGPT and asked it to explain what gambling is, like I am a 5 year old, 15 year old, 25 year old, and 50 year old. See the responses below:

"Explain gambling to me like I am a 5 year old"

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Gambling is when you play a game to try to win something, like money or toys. It's a little bit like playing a game of luck, like rolling dice or flipping a coin. If you guess right, you might win something, but if you guess wrong, you might not get anything. Just like in any game, it's important to remember to only play with things you can afford to lose, and never to gamble more than you can afford.

I think the only two words a 5 year old can understand in this answer are "play" and "toys". I can't test it right now, no kids of 5 years old around, but that's what I remember from the times when my kids were around that age.

If someone has this opportunity, please read that text to them aloud and tell about their reaction.

And all the other explanations are almost identical, no? Like there is no difference between a 15 year old and 50 year old. Honestly, I expected much more from ChatGPT.

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ChatGPT's definitions about gambling are really good. Thanks to the OP for creating this topic. However, I expect more from an artificial intelligence. For example, it should measure the recent performance of the teams playing in the match and predict who will win the match. Or it should measure the teams' performance in the first half and predict who will win the match in the second half. It would be really impressive for me.

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I wonder how it would stack in a game of poker Grin

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they seem to communicate according to age, so actually you don't have to use AI to know what gambling is, after all this kind of thing doesn't bring the slightest benefit to gamblers, just having fun and testing this technology, so yeah I think try asking a more intimate Grin

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Quote from: Wexnident on February 10, 2023, 09:19:55 PM

I guess the answer to the 15-50 year old ones was generally the same, the 5-year-old one was the one that most differed from the rest (still the same for the most part, but dumbed down to the level where risks aren't portrayed as serious as the rest). Nothing new or unique, though I did consider adding gacha-type of games for the 5-year-old description initially, but not for the rest.

Quote from: harizen on February 10, 2023, 06:16:42 PM

I do think that ChatGPT's response about what is gambling based on age doesn't really make sense. I mean, regardless of age, the answer will be general. Just look at how the response turned out, almost just identical to each other.

Well, that's how ChatGPT works, it's really generalized unless a specific data or point has it. It was an issue with stackoverflow at some point iirc, it presented seemingly correct answers due to the way the bot presented it, but was actually incorrect.

More precisely the instrument that ChatGPT describes based on age is taken from general experience where children will be simulated regarding gambling with play money and the like. As we all know, ChatGPT is too standard and still refers to the same conclusion, namely risking A to get B, the difference is only in the technique of conveying the language.

But what is the important point here about the involvement of ChatGPT and gambling that we can take? There isn't any! Roll Eyes

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Quote from: nakamura12 on February 11, 2023, 03:35:49 AM

I don't see any difference between the explanation of ewch age. As far as I can say, each answer explains what is gambling and ak don't see the importance of asking it from different person and different age either the answer is gathered by an AI that is available online or from people personally. Even if the accuracy is not the same as you yourself gather the information but still the answer is on point in my opinion.

Well if you are in a proper age and a gambler, then obviously the explanation will be the same across. Maybe the OP's intention is just to show the difference to us, and I think it's good that the AI can somewhat 'distinguished' by even giving a example from a 5 year old perspective.

Accuracy? It's a bot, and it's on early stage, we don't need to look at it if it is accurate or not.

It all depends on it's data set if I'm not mistaken.

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Quote from: nakamura12 on February 11, 2023, 03:35:49 AM

I don't see any difference between the explanation of ewch age. As far as I can say, each answer explains what is gambling and ak don't see the importance of asking it from different person and different age either the answer is gathered by an AI that is available online or from people personally. Even if the accuracy is not the same as you yourself gather the information but still the answer is on point in my opinion.

Perhaps, @OP is just giving an example of an answer for people who ask what gambling is based on age. And from that ChatGPT, the bot gives answers based on what he has got and answers according to the understanding of someone of a different age.

ChatGPT may be currently still in the development stage but later, it will surely evolve better and be able to provide answers that are more satisfying to the seeker. And when AI technology can teach itself what it wants, it will be like a movie that we often watched before, where AI will replace humans at work.

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it is certainly interesting to see the different approach and uses that can be had with such a product.
I personally find the concept fascinating, but far (very) from the real possibilities that such kind of bot could have.
in short, it is actually very primitive and full of bugs even if it is advertised as super bot.

who knows if such a really working bot will ever exist in gambling

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Quote from: nakamura12 on February 11, 2023, 03:35:49 AM

I don't see any difference between the explanation of ewch age. As far as I can say, each answer explains what is gambling and ak don't see the importance of asking it from different person and different age either the answer is gathered by an AI that is available online or from people personally. Even if the accuracy is not the same as you yourself gather the information but still the answer is on point in my opinion.

Yeah, the ai gathers information through the web and it's being collated by it. If we're going to ask the same question and based on the age, the answer will vary.
I've asked the same question for a 5-year-old and it has answered differently but the point is there and yes, its answer is on point and understandably good to be explained.
I find chatgpt more useful if the questions being asked are about technical related matters depending on the technologies that I'm interested with. It really answers those questions I'm throwing at it and gives me insightful answers.

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Quote from: Davidvictorson on February 10, 2023, 04:00:00 PM

I saw a similar post in the bitcoin discussion board and decided to do the same thing but with gambling. I played around with ChatGPT and asked it to explain what gambling is, like I am a 5 year old, 15 year old, 25 year old, and 50 year old. See the responses below:

From the list of responses explaining gambling to different ages from 15 years to 50 years old it is quite good and I agree with that opinion.
It's just that, in my opinion, it is still not quite right in the first response which gives an explanation of gambling when they are 5 years old because children aged 5 years will never understand gambling and they only have thoughts of playing and playing like children in general.
And if indeed there are some children who understand gambling it is not a good thing because it can make them curious and start to try gambling by playing or betting on something that can make them happy.
If there is someone who gives an understanding of gambling and how to do gambling to children then I will say that he is not a good person.

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I don't see any difference between the explanation of ewch age. As far as I can say, each answer explains what is gambling and ak don't see the importance of asking it from different person and different age either the answer is gathered by an AI that is available online or from people personally. Even if the accuracy is not the same as you yourself gather the information but still the answer is on point in my opinion.

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Quote from: Davidvictorson on February 10, 2023, 04:00:00 PM

The main message for me is gamble with what you can afford to lose and seek help if you think it is affecting you negatively.

ChatGPT is a very good bot that is making use of AI technology to give you a very good feedback of what you asked of it, it is helping in many areas like trading, programming and many other areas. I am not surprised that it gives accurate information about gambling as well. Gamblers should know that they should gamble responsibly and that they should only be using an amount of money that they can afford to lose.

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When we're bored, we can ask anything to chatgpt. All of its answers are based on the facts that are given to it but I wonder how they have programmed this AI.
It's like almost every response that it gives is near accurate but not all of it. If it's related to this topic asking a bot about what gambling is, we'll just get generic answers from it.

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Quote from: Daltonik on February 11, 2023, 02:51:42 AM

Quote from: ethereumhunter on February 11, 2023, 02:15:27 AM

Actually, I'm not too curious about ChatGPT and I'm still waiting for further news from each developer. But it seems that this year, big operators like Google, Yahoo, and others are starting to launch this AI-based ChatGPT program. And each operator claims that their AI is better than its rivals.

This will probably speed up the AI trend to the surface as many people are interested in these AI-based projects. And maybe this will also allow gambling developers to develop gambling-based AI, such as collecting sports betting information and inviting people to try it before they launch it to the public.

To predict the outcomes of fights in boxing and MMA, there has been an AI engine for almost a year, as the developers say, which specializes in analyzing data on martial arts called MartialBot, of course it will not answer the question of what gambling is, but the forecast for the fight can be checked.

I highly doubt the accuracy of such tool.The reason for that is that MMA is physical fighting between two persons.No AI or app in the world can know the physical form of each of the athletes,the favorite for example may have been drinking and abusing his physical condition while the underdog maybe preparing at the maximum of his capacity and even going further,in such scenario we would see a surprise result in the betting context as the underdog is going to win the match between these two.Tell me how can the AI or app predict the physical condition and behavior of a fighter?Pretty much worthless and impossible in such case for the MMA.

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Quote from: ethereumhunter on February 11, 2023, 02:15:27 AM

Actually, I'm not too curious about ChatGPT and I'm still waiting for further news from each developer. But it seems that this year, big operators like Google, Yahoo, and others are starting to launch this AI-based ChatGPT program. And each operator claims that their AI is better than its rivals.

This will probably speed up the AI trend to the surface as many people are interested in these AI-based projects. And maybe this will also allow gambling developers to develop gambling-based AI, such as collecting sports betting information and inviting people to try it before they launch it to the public.

To predict the outcomes of fights in boxing and MMA, there has been an AI engine for almost a year, as the developers say, which specializes in analyzing data on martial arts called MartialBot, of course it will not answer the question of what gambling is, but the forecast for the fight can be checked.

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Quote from: Saint-loup on February 10, 2023, 05:58:48 PM

It's an interesting experience but I'm still looking for someone able to leverage its abilities and skills for real help in gambling, at online casinos or at land based one thanks to a smartphone. But unfortunately I think the level ChatGPT AI is still too low to give a concrete help for any gambling game yet, sadly. Maybe in few years we will see enhanced AI able to do that though.

I don't think it will improve even with a couple of years passing because it is based on just collecting information already available on the internet which even us can search ourselves and it is trained to find this information faster.ChatGPT is good for asking things that we don't know and to get that information faster than if searching at google but it cannot provide any real help for example to make statistical and backed by probability choices that can really help us in sport betting.When this times come it will be a revolution for bettors.

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Actually, I'm not too curious about ChatGPT and I'm still waiting for further news from each developer. But it seems that this year, big operators like Google, Yahoo, and others are starting to launch this AI-based ChatGPT program. And each operator claims that their AI is better than its rivals.

This will probably speed up the AI trend to the surface as many people are interested in these AI-based projects. And maybe this will also allow gambling developers to develop gambling-based AI, such as collecting sports betting information and inviting people to try it before they launch it to the public.

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Yeah I got the main message and with all this warnings from casinos, people still think that casinos always want to see their players loss which I really don't agree totally with because it wouldn't be a nice reputation for them.
I also love the way the entire explanations were done in categories and they are centred on risk management which is a major key in gambling because no matter how proficient you are in gambling, without a good risk management, one is bound to make series of losses and they also pointed out using only the money one could aford to lose.

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Good experiment. I personally find interesting how the Artificial intelligence actually mentioned toys while trying to explain gambling to a little children, It is also a bit disturbing to me because I would never expect a AI telling those things to a kid (who obviously should not gamble). Tongue

I would have asked what their favorite casino games are, to try to see if the AI has some "favoritism" towards some specific kind of gambling, even though we know it is not a human being.

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Quote from: harizen on February 10, 2023, 06:16:42 PM

Quote from: Davidvictorson on February 10, 2023, 04:00:00 PM

The main message for me is gamble with what you can afford to lose and seek help if you think it is affecting you negatively.

I do think that ChatGPT's response about what is gambling based on age doesn't really make sense. I mean, regardless of age, the answer will be general. Just look at how the response turned out, almost just identical to each other.

It made some sense when asking the AI to explain like he was a 5 years old child, because it was made an allusion to toys and the answer was relatively shorter than the other ones. But on the other cases, it didn't make difference when explaining to a 15, 25 and 50 years old person, with the exception the AI changed one word or another in each answer.

And the AI is actually right, because individuals from all those ages can understand a same explanation with excellency. Only when we are talking to children the terms and definitions used must be different: clearer, simpler, and making reference to elements of their infant world as examples.

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I guess the answer to the 15-50 year old ones was generally the same, the 5-year-old one was the one that most differed from the rest (still the same for the most part, but dumbed down to the level where risks aren't portrayed as serious as the rest). Nothing new or unique, though I did consider adding gacha-type of games for the 5-year-old description initially, but not for the rest.

Quote from: harizen on February 10, 2023, 06:16:42 PM

I do think that ChatGPT's response about what is gambling based on age doesn't really make sense. I mean, regardless of age, the answer will be general. Just look at how the response turned out, almost just identical to each other.

Well, that's how ChatGPT works, it's really generalized unless a specific data or point has it. It was an issue with stackoverflow at some point iirc, it presented seemingly correct answers due to the way the bot presented it, but was actually incorrect.

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Quote from: acroman08 on February 10, 2023, 06:21:53 PM

sorry, this might be off-topic but I wonder if they have enough data to make a comprehensive answer

Obviously, it should be expected that this AI program does have access to lots of data sources.

In the first place, ChatGPT is an ADVANCE AI BOT and therefore expects that it's using a powerful technology as also stated on their main site.

https://chatgptonline.net/

Quote from: acroman08 on February 10, 2023, 06:21:53 PM

I am curious because I've read before that gambling addiction can be connected to or influenced by genetics(this also includes alcoholism, drug addiction, etc...).

Without looking further at the web search result regarding that to verify if it's true, I prefer to debunk that idea.

Gambling addiction for me started with the environment, then it depends on the person if they will allow addiction to shut their ability to be a responsible gambler. I don't want to blame any other things leading to addiction but only ourselves. Just my own point of view.

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Quote from: acroman08 on February 10, 2023, 06:21:53 PM

I wonder if they have enough data to make a comprehensive answer as to why there are people who are much more prone to gambling addiction than others.

I asked the bot and this is its answer.

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- Genetics: Some studies have suggested that a tendency towards impulsive behavior and risk-taking may be inherited.....
- Environment: Social and cultural influences can play a role in shaping gambling behavior....
- Personality: Certain personality traits, such as impulsiveness, sensation-seeking, and poor impulse control, have been associated with an increased likelihood of gambling problems.
- Mental health conditions: Some individuals with mental health conditions, such as depression, anxiety, and substance use disorders, may be more susceptible to gambling problems as a way of self-medicating or coping with negative emotions.

If you're curious about how old the training data are, this article claims that OpenAI started using recent data in 2021^[1]. And with a lot of research going on in the last few years about gambling, it can't be surprising that ChatGPT knows a general information about gambling addiction.

[1] https://gist.github.com/veekaybee/6f8885e9906aa9c5408ebe5c7e870698#training-data

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Gambling is not really subjective so you'd expect that the AI will provide you some general definition. ChatGPT's response is not different from the standard definition of gambling you can easily find in dictionaries.

So the interesting part here is how ChatGPT adjusts its definition a bit to suit the age provided. It's amusing how it uses the keyword "toys" when asked to define gambling to a 5-year old, or "rolling dice" or "flipping a coin" in lieu of blackjack and roulette and lotteries it mentioned in the definitions for older ages.

We can also notice how it includes laws and regulations in the definition as the age indicated belongs to adults.

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sorry, this might be off-topic but I wonder if they have enough data to make a comprehensive answer as to why there are people who are much more prone to gambling addiction than others. I am curious because I've read before that gambling addiction can be connected to or influenced by genetics(this also includes alcoholism, drug addiction, etc...).

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Quote from: Davidvictorson on February 10, 2023, 04:00:00 PM

The main message for me is gamble with what you can afford to lose and seek help if you think it is affecting you negatively.

I do think that ChatGPT's response about what is gambling based on age doesn't really make sense. I mean, regardless of age, the answer will be general. Just look at how the response turned out, almost just identical to each other.

Aside from that, it's no big deal whatever responses we got from that AI. I mean, what for especially if just asking that kind of question?

But maybe, you just considered doing that out of curiosity and just want to share what will be the AI's response regarding that.

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There are so many talks and discussions around this CHATGPT bot at the moment, my notification bar is litters with headlines concerning this, it seems like a new trend for every internet user, and it's reply to questions are most of the time, so perfect that someone not used to wordings wouldn't believe the sentence was generated by an Ai..
Anyways, this is one of the improvements, or rather, new innovative coming to the world wide web, and amazingly, it know very much about gambling, this would be very beneficial to gambling newbies, it's another means through which they can learn really fast.

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No need to ask any kind of AI to understand what gambling is, any age can simply understand what it is.
But unlike what kids are doing with a simple game, adults are prone to addiction, losing with monetary value and should always get professional help once get into it.

Also, posting the chatgpt chat thread is a session made, no one can see it besides you, so its useless posting here.

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It's an interesting experience but I'm still looking for someone able to leverage its abilities and skills for real help in gambling, at online casinos or at land based one thanks to a smartphone. But unfortunately I think the level ChatGPT AI is still too low to give a concrete help for any gambling game yet, sadly. Maybe in few years we will see enhanced AI able to do that though.

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So I try to ask without any age restriction:

So just the same concept though, I mean we all know what gambling is, so there is no surprises with that kind of response even if from age 5-50.

You bet on an event with uncertain outcome to make money, simply as that.

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Quote from: Davidvictorson on February 10, 2023, 04:00:00 PM

The main message for me is gamble with what you can afford to lose and seek help if you think it is affecting you negatively.

ChatGPT responses are generated based on patterns in the data it was trained on. Besides, OpenAI's ethical guidelines state that it should not create content that is harmful, abusive, or otherwise offensive, and that it should avoid engaging in illegal or harmful activities.
https://openai.com/events/code-of-conduct.txt

Quote from: Davidvictorson on February 10, 2023, 04:00:00 PM

Reference to chat: https://chat.openai.com/chat/220b7e99-9d18-4c6e-8a72-664fee4e256d

I don't think you can refer to your chats in that way. The URL you provided is only accessible to you and holds no value to anyone else.

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Quote from: Davidvictorson on February 10, 2023, 04:00:00 PM

The main message for me is gamble with what you can afford to lose and seek help if you think it is affecting you negatively.

Asking questions basing up on age and its responses doesnt really differ that much. lol. Basing up on simple understanding then gambling is something that that you do risks up money for earning money.
Gambling is something for fun and at the same time you are really that risking something.Of course you should really be that accepting that you should only spend the amount that you can afford to lose.

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I saw a similar post in the bitcoin discussion board and decided to do the same thing but with gambling. I played around with ChatGPT and asked it to explain what gambling is, like I am a 5 year old, 15 year old, 25 year old, and 50 year old. See the responses below:

"Explain gambling to me like I am a 5 year old"

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Gambling is when you play a game to try to win something, like money or toys. It's a little bit like playing a game of luck, like rolling dice or flipping a coin. If you guess right, you might win something, but if you guess wrong, you might not get anything. Just like in any game, it's important to remember to only play with things you can afford to lose, and never to gamble more than you can afford.

Explain gambling to me like I am a 15 year old

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Gambling is the act of betting or wagering on an event with an uncertain outcome, with the primary intent of winning extra money or material goods. It can take many forms, such as playing the stock market, betting on sports, playing casino games like poker or slot machines, or buying lottery tickets. However, it's important to keep in mind that there is always a risk involved in gambling and it's possible to lose money. Additionally, it's crucial to make sure that you only gamble what you can afford to lose and to never let it become a harmful addiction.

Explain gambling to me like I am a 25 year old

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Gambling refers to the act of betting or wagering on an event or game with an uncertain outcome, usually with the intention of winning additional money or material goods. Gambling activities can range from traditional casino games like blackjack and roulette to sports betting and online games like poker. It's important to understand that gambling always involves some degree of risk, and it's possible to lose money. Additionally, it's important to be responsible and only gamble within one's means, and to never let it negatively impact one's life. It's also crucial to be aware of and understand the laws and regulations surrounding gambling in your jurisdiction.

Explain gambling to me like I am a 50 year old

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Gambling refers to the act of risking money or something of value on an event with an uncertain outcome, with the expectation of winning more money or material goods. It can take many forms, including casino games, sports betting, online gaming, and lotteries. While gambling can be a source of entertainment for some, it's important to understand that it also involves risk and there is a potential for losing money. It's important to be responsible and only gamble within one's means, and to be aware of and understand the laws and regulations surrounding gambling in your jurisdiction. Additionally, it's important to recognize when gambling may become a problem and to seek help if necessary.

The main message for me is gamble with what you can afford to lose and seek help if you think it is affecting you negatively.

Reference to chat: https://chat.openai.com/chat/220b7e99-9d18-4c6e-8a72-664fee4e256d

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