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December 22, 2017, 08:33:36 AM
#88
BCH as other altcoins also is correcting now together with Bitcoin. Whales just cashing out before Christmas holidays and it is normal situation. You also can do the same or just wait for winter rise of cryptomarket (end of corrrection).
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December 22, 2017, 08:06:54 AM
#87
It's just a pump and dump I will not think much of it, and I probably will not going to buy any Bitcoin cash because the guy who is behind it " bitcoin jesus" is really unprofessional, he said insider trading is okay...I dont like these kind of person
Bitcoin cash now have increasing value, I guess it will continue for long period of time because more miners were support this coin. In my sight more bitcoin users were shift into bitcoin cash because they was panicking to fall down of bitcoin value. If you notice most of the users are withdraw their savings in bitcoin because they are expecting of deep to bitcoin value before end of the year.

But me still believing that bitcoin value are continuously increasing after going deep. So i suggest to many that hold their bitcoin in the future, because I was not losing hope that this coin are increasing their value in before end of the year.
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December 22, 2017, 06:34:38 AM
#86
It's just a pump and dump I will not think much of it, and I probably will not going to buy any Bitcoin cash because the guy who is behind it " bitcoin jesus" is really unprofessional, he said insider trading is okay...I dont like these kind of person
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December 22, 2017, 05:58:26 AM
#85
The developers of this coin wanted to take advantage of the situation and lure investors from Bitcoin original into Bitcoin cash. Therefore, the price soared. Plus BCH has many advantages against the genuine BTC like low fees and transactoin speed.
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December 21, 2017, 10:09:28 AM
#84
Bitcoin cash price is increasing very fast these days, while Bitcoin is slowing down. This huge price Increase must be the result of wash trading. Some people are manipulating the price with this kind of trade, so they can dump when it's high enough.

We have already seen that in the past, a few times actually. It is sort of cyclic activity. Whenever Bitcoin Cash difficulty goes down, miners switch from regular Bitcoin mining to mining BCash. And consequently whales, which may be the same miners or closely affiliated with them like Roger Ver, start pumping this coin, while genuine Bitcoin halts or goes down somewhat with the mempool being overwhelmed.
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December 20, 2017, 04:09:58 PM
#83
Bitcoin cash price is increasing very fast these days, while Bitcoin is slowing down. This huge price Increase must be the result of wash trading. Some people are manipulating the price with this kind of trade, so they can dump when it's high enough.
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December 20, 2017, 03:56:42 PM
#82
I think it was pump basically by the help insider info. Many people on twitter clearly showed this. I personally don't care what people do as its not regulated market. But let's say the truth.
I definitely think so too, this just might be a pump done by a whale club composed of traders that are pumping bitcoin cash and when it reaches a certain price they certainly will cash out and price just might dip back to where it was, but with some of its advantages over bitcoin it will continue to raise.
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December 20, 2017, 03:27:23 PM
#81
I think it was pump basically by the help insider info. Many people on twitter clearly showed this. I personally don't care what people do as its not regulated market. But let's say the truth.
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December 20, 2017, 03:00:58 PM
#80
What is happening is that Coinbase are enabling bitcoincash:

https://blog.coinbase.com/buy-sell-send-and-receive-bitcoin-cash-on-coinbase-65f1b2c7214b

Lots of noobs will buy the coin, because it's like bitcoin only cheap!
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December 20, 2017, 02:59:32 PM
#79
Roger Ver is pumping it. What can not u understand?? They have a lot of btc and pump BCH for it. It is obvious. Then it will fall. take it fron me
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December 20, 2017, 02:30:51 PM
#78
For me that was an anomaly. Still was able to get in on 0.21 and out on 0.24. Very skeptical about the coins which appeared from nowhere but have taken what happened as a signal of a sort   8)Something is rotten in the state of Denmark.
We have a lot of safe places now to wait until this boiling is over.
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December 20, 2017, 12:39:54 PM
#77
why must surprised with pump and dump scheme ?  Huh maybe they only took the chance when bitcoin got a lot of unconfirmed transaction and it is chance for miner or trader or someone out there to take profit with BCH, when they already satisfied, it will back to normal rate
BCH is having crazy its value as we know possibly its just hype the price thats why it rising. Yes this is what I believe bch will be back to normal pricing. Still bitcoin will be back to normal also in terms of too long to confirm the transactions.
I am disappointed, and do not listen to advice on Trading strategy.
Do not buy coins that have been pumped, then the price will go down. The intention of getting a profit, the result is a trap there.
Get away soon from BCH Grin
Its too risky to buy on the current price of BCH now and i do treat it as a manipulation of prices. Seeing that they do have a dragonslayer plan which signifies they are trying out to replace the King which is the Core but sooner or later it would dump out for sure just like what happen on their first attempt wayback before. For sure they would experience the same failure again.  Grin

Of course its pretty obvious that this coin is for pure manipulation from the people behind it. It's very very risky, and if you are noob, you better not be swayed into getting BCH now because the price is too high already. Of course you will be tempted because of the huge profit you can get, but what if the price suddenly drops in the next couple of days? I'm sure that you will regret your decision buying it. LOL.

This is a obvious attempt to try to get everyone on board. However, with only a handful supporters and those people that are buying are just really in for the profits, its just a matter of time before the whole thing blows off.
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December 20, 2017, 12:33:08 PM
#76
why must surprised with pump and dump scheme ?  Huh maybe they only took the chance when bitcoin got a lot of unconfirmed transaction and it is chance for miner or trader or someone out there to take profit with BCH, when they already satisfied, it will back to normal rate
BCH is having crazy its value as we know possibly its just hype the price thats why it rising. Yes this is what I believe bch will be back to normal pricing. Still bitcoin will be back to normal also in terms of too long to confirm the transactions.
I am disappointed, and do not listen to advice on Trading strategy.
Do not buy coins that have been pumped, then the price will go down. The intention of getting a profit, the result is a trap there.
Get away soon from BCH Grin
Its too risky to buy on the current price of BCH now and i do treat it as a manipulation of prices. Seeing that they do have a dragonslayer plan which signifies they are trying out to replace the King which is the Core but sooner or later it would dump out for sure just like what happen on their first attempt wayback before. For sure they would experience the same failure again.  Grin
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December 20, 2017, 12:26:26 PM
#75
Bitcoin Cash, +55% in one day. Will it overcome Ethereum in total market cap?
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November 22, 2017, 01:53:23 PM
#74
Will it still be called Bitcoin Cash if it does take over Bitcoin. The saving on fees are to much to be ignored. And if the Asians are getting interested.....
That is not likely but in the case bitcoin cash replaced bitcoin then bitcoin cash will simply become bitcoin since it will be the new standard for cryptocurrencies, but I do not think that is going to happen, no one is using bitcoin cash except to speculate, every website is still accepting bitcoin and not bitcoin cash, so for most people bitcoin cash has not a real use except to trade with it and to try to make money.

No way for bitcoin cash to replace bitcoin. Bitcoin is supported by all of us and bitcoin cash pumpers will be upset for this in long run, certainly.
That is what I said, did you even read my post, I said that bitcoin cash is very unlikely to surpass bitcoin for the simple reason no one is using it as a currency at all, everyone is just speculating with that coin and the miners are abusing it by moving back and forth between bitcoin and bitcoin cash depending in which network is more profitable for them and as such there is no way that bitcoin cash is going to surpass bitcoin.
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November 20, 2017, 06:48:48 AM
#73
It powerfully pumping now by Roger Ver! He is going to spend (or already spent) about 130 000 BTC! It`s 910 000 000 $ ! He is big whale - BTC holder and he took BCC during fork in august. Now is going to pump and sell (dump) BCH!
Be careful!
I don’t thinks so bitcoin holders should fear this big whale. No matter what he does, he cannot make bitcoin cash or any other coin surpass bitcoin at all or not harm bitcoin popularity in any way if rest of the people are with bitcoin. Bitcoin has already beaten gold and real estate in producing tremendous profits. You really don’t need to get rid of your mighty bitcoin by fearing any big whale.
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November 19, 2017, 02:08:25 PM
#72
Wow, so I wonder if that will happen again - will there be enough dummies for a second pump/dump? maybe i'll buy at .08.
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November 19, 2017, 12:21:10 PM
#71
why must surprised with pump and dump scheme ?  Huh maybe they only took the chance when bitcoin got a lot of unconfirmed transaction and it is chance for miner or trader or someone out there to take profit with BCH, when they already satisfied, it will back to normal rate
BCH is having crazy its value as we know possibly its just hype the price thats why it rising. Yes this is what I believe bch will be back to normal pricing. Still bitcoin will be back to normal also in terms of too long to confirm the transactions.
I am disappointed, and do not listen to advice on Trading strategy.
Do not buy coins that have been pumped, then the price will go down. The intention of getting a profit, the result is a trap there.
Get away soon from BCH Grin
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November 19, 2017, 07:44:31 AM
#70
Will it still be called Bitcoin Cash if it does take over Bitcoin. The saving on fees are to much to be ignored. And if the Asians are getting interested.....
That is not likely but in the case bitcoin cash replaced bitcoin then bitcoin cash will simply become bitcoin since it will be the new standard for cryptocurrencies, but I do not think that is going to happen, no one is using bitcoin cash except to speculate, every website is still accepting bitcoin and not bitcoin cash, so for most people bitcoin cash has not a real use except to trade with it and to try to make money.

No way for bitcoin cash to replace bitcoin. Bitcoin is supported by all of us and bitcoin cash pumpers will be upset for this in long run, certainly.

i think bitcoin cash will remain like now and the price will be up and down too often in future and we can join into the party if the price is increase. if the price is trying to increase, then we can prepare to buy bitcoin cash so we can sell it once it reach high price. there is many times for us to make money from bitcoin cash in future so don't missed it.
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November 18, 2017, 10:13:46 PM
#69
Give it a while it will dump soon enough.
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November 18, 2017, 09:31:04 PM
#68
Will it still be called Bitcoin Cash if it does take over Bitcoin. The saving on fees are to much to be ignored. And if the Asians are getting interested.....
That is not likely but in the case bitcoin cash replaced bitcoin then bitcoin cash will simply become bitcoin since it will be the new standard for cryptocurrencies, but I do not think that is going to happen, no one is using bitcoin cash except to speculate, every website is still accepting bitcoin and not bitcoin cash, so for most people bitcoin cash has not a real use except to trade with it and to try to make money.

No way for bitcoin cash to replace bitcoin. Bitcoin is supported by all of us and bitcoin cash pumpers will be upset for this in long run, certainly.
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November 18, 2017, 09:24:45 PM
#67
Will it still be called Bitcoin Cash if it does take over Bitcoin. The saving on fees are to much to be ignored. And if the Asians are getting interested.....
That is not likely but in the case bitcoin cash replaced bitcoin then bitcoin cash will simply become bitcoin since it will be the new standard for cryptocurrencies, but I do not think that is going to happen, no one is using bitcoin cash except to speculate, every website is still accepting bitcoin and not bitcoin cash, so for most people bitcoin cash has not a real use except to trade with it and to try to make money.
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November 14, 2017, 07:19:41 AM
#66
Classic pump and dump momment i have s3en this movement on many coin from 2014. Pump coin, spread news and let FOMO kicked in. Then whale sell all what he has to small fish and let small fish die. But if yesterday is the real movement bch will go back to $2500 in short time.
Jihan wu already hold a lot of the bitcoin cash, and caused by the fud and jihan can sell his coin at very high price. As you can see the fact that the price back again to the bottom. The difficulty hardfork didn't give anything rather than bullshit.
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November 14, 2017, 07:09:02 AM
#65
Expect another pump once the mining difficulty comes back down again. Ver and Jihan aren't finished yet. They will have another go at destabilising BTC with BCH.
The pump over the weekend was the largest pump I've ever seen in crypto. And, since pumps are designed to earn the guys behind it loads of money, I expect they'll have an even bigger budget next time.

What metric do you use to judge how massive the pump was? If you use something like the growth in absolute figures, for example, from $1000 to $2500, which would be like $1500, we have seen Bitcoin rise, and fall, for that matter, even stronger in the past. In relative terms, many top altcoins often show by far more impressive results. Litecoin is known to rise and tank dozens of %% daily, just like that.
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November 14, 2017, 06:56:27 AM
#64
Classic pump and dump momment i have s3en this movement on many coin from 2014. Pump coin, spread news and let FOMO kicked in. Then whale sell all what he has to small fish and let small fish die. But if yesterday is the real movement bch will go back to $2500 in short time.
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November 14, 2017, 01:16:22 AM
#63
This was a typical pump and dump. Poor souls paid 0.53 BTC for 1 BCH, just to see a dump to 0.25 again. Fresh money has to come from somewhere ...
I’m still surprised that people keep falling for that, not in my wildest dreams I thought that I could see bitcoin cash at that price and I know that I will never pay anything close to that for bitcoin cash, in fact the only bitcoin cash I have is the amount I got from the hard fork, I was planing to sell at the beginning but I choose to wait in case something like this happened.
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November 13, 2017, 09:49:18 PM
#62
wish this manipulation didnt happen, All it does is hurt the crypto ecosystem. The same ecosystem that is trying to fix major economic problems. This is what makes is hard for people to take this stuff seriously.
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November 13, 2017, 09:43:20 PM
#61
Whale pump coin and at the same time they are spreading the news on twitter FOMO kicked in then the price pumped ao hard. Thats what happened. And at the top price whale start to dump it to $1300 again. Many people buy at above $2000 and now they are just can wait for the price to come back to $2000. Massive manipulation on the market.
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November 13, 2017, 08:22:26 PM
#60
Will it still be called Bitcoin Cash if it does take over Bitcoin. The saving on fees are to much to be ignored. And if the Asians are getting interested.....
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November 13, 2017, 04:44:25 PM
#59

It's fun to see how Bitcoin has to die at least 2-3 times a year since it was born; once it is for the banks, then for China, then for miners, then for Eth, now for Bch.

Every time new investors who ask the same questions or cheer for the new coin they invested, or because they believe they have lost the bitcoin train; people who 6 months ago in March with Bitcoin at $ 1000 said that now was too late because they were overvalued, so they are looking for the new gold coin that will kill the old and tired Bitcoin.

But Bitcoin is still there. It is the king who is adopted and recognized by all.
It's not late to buy.
Yes Bitcoin will only go up with periodic speculation Smiley
As we see Bitcoin went up then followed by a correction and then again Up..)
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November 13, 2017, 04:37:32 PM
#58
Everyone smart enough should know that when they see bitcoincash, they should immidiately turn a 180 degrees away from this coin. Specially now that it is clearly being pumped like hell. I pitty those people who bought bitcoincash at this high price hoping that it will become bigger.

I definitely agree. I was shit scared with the rate it increased from 600 to almost 3000 before i went to bed. No coin quadripples like that in such initial high price to begin. Especially with no big announcement.


When bitcoin went from 900 to 3,000 sometime ago that was understable because of the Consortium that meet and the more spring up of BTC ATM's.

There is just no media or news explanation for BCH prices. It may have better network but it was an orchestrated plot to ruin Bitcoin as I see.
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November 13, 2017, 04:21:03 PM
#57

It's fun to see how Bitcoin has to die at least 2-3 times a year since it was born; once it is for the banks, then for China, then for miners, then for Eth, now for Bch.

Every time new investors who ask the same questions or cheer for the new coin they invested, or because they believe they have lost the bitcoin train; people who 6 months ago in March with Bitcoin at $ 1000 said that now was too late because they were overvalued, so they are looking for the new gold coin that will kill the old and tired Bitcoin.

But Bitcoin is still there. It is the king who is adopted and recognized by all.
It's not late to buy.
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November 13, 2017, 10:49:46 AM
#56
BCH is in the ground  in the marketcap, it is very wise when you have a capital to invest you can buy it for now because anytime from now it will pump up and you will gain x10 of your investment. In the marketcap now BCH is -27.83%. Its good to invest now.

Good price is 0.06-0.1BTC  Wink.
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November 13, 2017, 10:40:33 AM
#55
bitcoincash back to the original price on 0.2 bitcoin I think this is the original price bitcoincash , to market when it comes down we can see bitcoincash price 0.2 bitcoin then one month later bitcoincash down to 0.07 bitcoin fundamental correction at that time , I think anyone who resist this bite has a profit of 200%
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November 13, 2017, 10:38:47 AM
#54
Most investors and users want Bitcoin transaction fee reduction and an improvement on transaction verification speed, and they do not give up Bitcoin. I think, FUDs made over Bitcoin Cash at the end of the week, may have made to put pressure for urgent improvement of Bitcoin.

The BCH pump is over now guys. People are getting back to Bitcoin. But I guess, its scared a lot of people but nevertheless the stunt didn't gain the full trust of investors that's why the price is crashing really hard today. But its not over, there will be several attempts down in the future. And I have to agree that they put pressure on the bitcoin ecosystem to really improved otherwise another attempt will be put into place in the future and this time they will be successful.
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November 13, 2017, 10:24:54 AM
#53
Most investors and users want Bitcoin transaction fee reduction and an improvement on transaction verification speed, and they do not give up Bitcoin. I think, FUDs made over Bitcoin Cash at the end of the week, may have made to put pressure for urgent improvement of Bitcoin.
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November 13, 2017, 09:48:43 AM
#52
Just wish all this drama was over and a stable coin was in place....this is far from over tho i doubt. From what ive read, the ghost town and sell was becuase of the fork today.
Once thats over, i epxect the kor/chn buyers will be back pumping bch they bought for cheap ....till the next time.
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November 13, 2017, 09:20:26 AM
#51
Just sold the rest of mine BCH for 0.184 btc and have no regrets.
IMHO just a hyip coin
I'm actually planning to buy back the Bitcoin Cash that I sold, when it hits about 0.06BTC.
That way, it hasn't cost me anything, I keep a very clear profit, and I can do this again on the next pump.

Note: I do NOT recommend to ever buy Bitcoin Cash! Joining the pump-madness is very risky, I was just lucky to sell half at 0.5 (after I already sold the first half at 0.24). A dump is almost guaranteed to follow after a pump, so I'm quite happy with what I sold. And, as expected, Bitcoin Cash started dumping when the difficulty went up.
By only buying back what I sold already, I know for sure I'm not adding to the pump, I'm just taking some of the profit the pumpers wanted to have. And I don't risk any of my real Bitcoins doing so.

Expect another pump once the mining difficulty comes back down again. Ver and Jihan aren't finished yet. They will have another go at destabilising BTC with BCH.
The pump over the weekend was the largest pump I've ever seen in crypto. And, since pumps are designed to earn the guys behind it loads of money, I expect they'll have an even bigger budget next time.

Update: it seems like they're still pumping this.
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November 13, 2017, 09:09:24 AM
#50
all the hallmarks of a pump and dump.. however the tech is good.
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November 13, 2017, 09:01:50 AM
#49
BCH is in the ground  in the marketcap, it is very wise when you have a capital to invest you can buy it for now because anytime from now it will pump up and you will gain x10 of your investment. In the marketcap now BCH is -27.83%. Its good to invest now.
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November 13, 2017, 08:59:53 AM
#48
Expect another pump once the mining difficulty comes back down again. Ver and Jihan aren't finished yet. They will have another go at destabilising BTC with BCH.

BTC seems impregnable though.
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November 13, 2017, 08:49:14 AM
#47
BCH was rocking it for a couple of days/hours but as you've seen it's being corrected right now, personally I think it's some sort of boost from Korean traders, who are backing up the coin. We don't know for sure, but it's really up to you to decide whether the price justifies any of that. BCH offers some good advantages over Bitcoin but it's still an immitator, for me it was obvious that it would retrace back some of the profits it made. There is just way too much hype and way too many people who want to get involved into this and have FOMO syndrom. But that's the crypto world, what can you say, it's kinda tricky to expect that something like this will not happen, is such an open environment filled with so many inexperienced investors.
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November 13, 2017, 05:57:06 AM
#46
Just sold the rest of mine BCH for 0.184 btc and have no regrets.
IMHO just a hyip coin
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November 13, 2017, 05:37:18 AM
#45
Don't you think that it may be Chinese playing in Korea? I think they want to attract people by increasing the price of BCC. They may have succeed a little. But i think the price is going to fall much more as it was an artificial pump. But i suppose for other coins, it is the same tactic...
For Bithumb, they need some 'coupons' ? And how much is a 'coupon' ? It may have cost them something. Bithumb won't let them play without any return of investment.
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November 13, 2017, 05:17:30 AM
#44
I've found a post that seems to explain it well enough. Bithumb allows 0-fee transactions, so they've just sold BCH to themselves.

The majority of the trading volume is taking place at Bithumb (Korean exchange).
Therefore the whole price discovery is highly manipulated, because Bithumb
offers account without fees and vouchers that enable zero fee trading.

This enables rampant wash trading by allowing you to buy and sell your own orders without
incurring any fees!



And the week-end is over, the pump too. BCH is at 0.2BTC now. I'm curious how many got burned during the week-end..

If you ask me, I don't think it makes a lot of sense if we are talking the BCH pump. I may be wrong on that, and I will readily admit being wrong, but how on earth are traders going to pump Bitcoin Cash that high by simply filling their own orders? Besides, the exchange itself can do exactly the same, fees or no fees, and any exchange can do the same as well. So what's the catch?
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November 13, 2017, 03:44:48 AM
#43
I've found a post that seems to explain it well enough. Bithumb allows 0-fee transactions, so they've just sold BCH to themselves.

The majority of the trading volume is taking place at Bithumb (Korean exchange).
Therefore the whole price discovery is highly manipulated, because Bithumb
offers account without fees and vouchers that enable zero fee trading.

This enables rampant wash trading by allowing you to buy and sell your own orders without
incurring any fees!



And the week-end is over, the pump too. BCH is at 0.2BTC now. I'm curious how many got burned during the week-end..

This is a very good explanation! Freaking Koreans!

The pump looks over right now, but the price is still high. BCH gained lots of attention in the past few days so my guess is that price will still be quite high for a while...not enough to overcome BTC, of course!
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November 13, 2017, 03:27:26 AM
#42
I've found a post that seems to explain it well enough. Bithumb allows 0-fee transactions, so they've just sold BCH to themselves.

The majority of the trading volume is taking place at Bithumb (Korean exchange).
Therefore the whole price discovery is highly manipulated, because Bithumb
offers account without fees and vouchers that enable zero fee trading.

This enables rampant wash trading by allowing you to buy and sell your own orders without
incurring any fees!



And the week-end is over, the pump too. BCH is at 0.2BTC now. I'm curious how many got burned during the week-end..
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November 13, 2017, 02:54:49 AM
#41
pump, hard fork, fomo, profits. there you go, all the things happen daily in crypto. this is what free market is when there is no law. so trade at your own risk as usual.
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November 13, 2017, 02:01:42 AM
#40
why must surprised with pump and dump scheme ?  Huh maybe they only took the chance when bitcoin got a lot of unconfirmed transaction and it is chance for miner or trader or someone out there to take profit with BCH, when they already satisfied, it will back to normal rate
BCH is having crazy its value as we know possibly its just hype the price thats why it rising. Yes this is what I believe bch will be back to normal pricing. Still bitcoin will be back to normal also in terms of too long to confirm the transactions.
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November 13, 2017, 01:53:13 AM
#39
Tons of people are leaning towards BCH because when 2X is cancel, meaning theres no solution for high fees.

This is incorrect. The solution is there just people seem afraid to use it. The number of SegWit transactions is still far too small.
Also, the number of found blocks was rather small in the last 24 hours, at least that's my feeling.

The seasoned members should know that without SegWit the transactions are slower and more expensive.  But telling that there's no solution when we know it's there.. means that somebody has interest in advertising ... some altcoin that dreams to replace Bitcoin.

What altcoin do you refer to?

If you mean Bitcoin Cash, many people would see it as another Bitcoin, not an altcoin. If it does replace the original Bitcoin (which I sincerely hope not), people, no doubt, will call it Bitcoin, and personally, I feel they will have all the reasons for that. After all, Bitcoin Cash has common base with the original Bitcoin and Bitcoin holders were given the same number of Bitcoin Cash coins when the latter had been launched.
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November 12, 2017, 03:28:47 PM
#38
1   Bithumb   DASH/KRW   $66,913,200   $429.62   23.84%   Recently

Again pump another coin now...
same exchange, I would start suspecting fowl play here...

MI6
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November 12, 2017, 09:17:35 AM
#37
why must surprised with pump and dump scheme ?  Huh maybe they only took the chance when bitcoin got a lot of unconfirmed transaction and it is chance for miner or trader or someone out there to take profit with BCH, when they already satisfied, it will back to normal rate
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November 12, 2017, 09:11:46 AM
#36
Tons of people are leaning towards BCH because when 2X is cancel, meaning theres no solution for high fees.

This is incorrect. The solution is there just people seem afraid to use it. The number of SegWit transactions is still far too small.
Also, the number of found blocks was rather small in the last 24 hours, at least that's my feeling.

The seasoned members should know that without SegWit the transactions are slower and more expensive.  But telling that there's no solution when we know it's there.. means that somebody has interest in advertising ... some altcoin that dreams to replace Bitcoin.
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November 12, 2017, 08:45:05 AM
#35
The bitcoin transaction which stuck in the mempool + Segwit2X cancel lead to these

Tons of people are leaning towards BCH because when 2X is cancel, meaning theres no solution for high fees.
BCH offers 8MB + No Segwit, so... one starts and everyone go

I fully agree with you, the future for bitcoin is must have some improvement on the transaction fee and the transaction confirmation speed, at the moment calculates the transaction processing speed of Bitcoins are much slower than working with cash or banking, and transaction fees are not as cheaper
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November 12, 2017, 08:39:50 AM
#34
bitcoin cash at top two on coinmarket cap with $40 billion capitalization and now it go down and dumped back from $20 billion capital but it is still high. I think the whales are playing with bitcoin cash right now, Making huge pumps then suddenly dump it when the pump is higher enough for their profit.  Smiley
AGD
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November 12, 2017, 08:36:19 AM
#33
This was a typical pump and dump. Poor souls paid 0.53 BTC for 1 BCH, just to see a dump to 0.25 again. Fresh money has to come from somewhere ...

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I hate to say it, but when I made a Bitcoin Cash transaction yesterday, it went much smoother than Bitcoin transactions. The recommended fee was very low, I even increased it to 0.00005 Bitcoin Cash, and I got the required 20 confirmations in just over an hour. As much as I dislike Bitcoin Cash, this is what Bitcoin needs to be useful.

Not just Bitcoin Cash. Try sending Waves .. it takes seconds. Send IOTA, it takes a minute and costs nothing. These are only a few examples. There are some coins out there where transaction times and fees are at minimum. Yes, scaling is always a problem: However, technologies like IOTA and XRB need MANY transactions to scale, and they get even bigger and better with every transaction more (I am really looking forward when industry players like Siemens, Fujitsu etc. adopt IOTA and allow it to scale)

Exactly. There are hundreds of Altcoins out there with quick and cheap transactions.
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November 12, 2017, 08:34:22 AM
#32
the value of BCH is become higher than the usual if you can see it on the market it pumps up into 156% i don't know why and then the bitcoin price becomes low of 8% in the market i guess, theres a magic behind of it and i don't know what's happening in that coin you are lucky if you have that coin and you can sell it on the market with the huge amount of money.

I was still in a little bit shock, can't believed it and almost drop from my chair after i see the sudden huge value increase of bitcoin cash in which i think pump and dump did this. I was thinking if this rapid fast value increase will continue it will surpass the bitcoin because i believed that this dramatic change will attract many investors to shift to BCH considering $1.7k is a cheaper value than bitcoin.I just feel sad for my ethreum in which it drop to third place now and thinking to sell it for bitcoin cash.  Cheesy  Cheesy


Don't take any hasty measures just yet, don't sell those ethereum but hold them or better buy original bitcoin and hold and not BCC because it is likely to fall back to where t belongs very soon after bitcoin recovers in value.
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November 12, 2017, 08:15:17 AM
#31
The bitcoin transaction which stuck in the mempool + Segwit2X cancel lead to these

Tons of people are leaning towards BCH because when 2X is cancel, meaning theres no solution for high fees.
BCH offers 8MB + No Segwit, so... one starts and everyone go
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November 12, 2017, 08:13:28 AM
#30
the value of BCH is become higher than the usual if you can see it on the market it pumps up into 156% i don't know why and then the bitcoin price becomes low of 8% in the market i guess, theres a magic behind of it and i don't know what's happening in that coin you are lucky if you have that coin and you can sell it on the market with the huge amount of money.

I was still in a little bit shock, can't believed it and almost drop from my chair after i see the sudden huge value increase of bitcoin cash in which i think pump and dump did this. I was thinking if this rapid fast value increase will continue it will surpass the bitcoin because i believed that this dramatic change will attract many investors to shift to BCH considering $1.7k is a cheaper value than bitcoin.I just feel sad for my ethreum in which it drop to third place now and thinking to sell it for bitcoin cash.  Cheesy  Cheesy
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November 12, 2017, 08:00:51 AM
#29
I don't understand how some people can still say Bitcoin doesn't need scaling. All this madness could have been prevented if Bitcoin would have scaled earlier, which makes me thing many people profit keeping blocksize down

Yesterday, I saw a thread here where it linked an article proving that the spike in transaction volumes is not natural and is artificially created by miners seeking either to destroy Bitcoin or raise transaction fees as they have been doing all these years. Transaction jams are not something new, anyway. Ironically, it is the same miners who are strongly opposing the changes in Bitcoin that would make it truly scalable. Bitcoin Cash is a joke or a bogey to scare people off from getting genuine Bitcoin.
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November 12, 2017, 07:55:11 AM
#28
Bloodyhell. I've had it with these bitcoin cash topics. Clearly it is not a great coin. And it is not going to replace bitcoin. Not in a million years. As what others say that it can replace bitcoin.

This price increases clealy are just results of a pump amd dump scheme that bitcoin cash is gong through right now.
And I don't know about you guys, but i sure ain't gonna be letting myself get fooled by this poor effort to scam small investors. Nor be a part of it.
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November 12, 2017, 07:49:36 AM
#27
This was a typical pump and dump. Poor souls paid 0.53 BTC for 1 BCH, just to see a dump to 0.25 again. Fresh money has to come from somewhere ...

This is also what I thought, although the pump is much bigger than I would have ever expected. Quite shame I was too eager to sell my BCH long ago...
Another thing that may be related and it actually worries me is the rise and rise of mempool.
I tend to believe that both are related and they are a move of some pools angry that SegWit2X was cancelled.
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November 12, 2017, 07:45:08 AM
#26
Everyone smart enough should know that when they see bitcoincash, they should immidiately turn a 180 degrees away from this coin. Specially now that it is clearly being pumped like hell. I pitty those people who bought bitcoincash at this high price hoping that it will become bigger.
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November 12, 2017, 07:42:21 AM
#25
There is no difference between bitcoin vs bitcoin cash and if bitcoin cash is more reliable then more
people will switch over to this chances are that
Bitcoin goes to 2000$ and bitcoin cash will goes toward 4000$
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November 12, 2017, 07:39:39 AM
#24
Not just Bitcoin Cash. Try sending Waves .. it takes seconds. Send IOTA, it takes a minute and costs nothing. These are only a few examples. There are some coins out there where transaction times and fees are at minimum. Yes, scaling is always a problem: However, technologies like IOTA and XRB need MANY transactions to scale, and they get even bigger and better with every transaction more (I am really looking forward when industry players like Siemens, Fujitsu etc. adopt IOTA and allow it to scale)
I'm not very familiar with the way Waves and IOTA work, but as far as I understand they don't use a blockchain, right?
I was already impressed with Byteball: much faster than Bitcoin, and 1/10,000th of the fee. Then I got to play with Stellar Lumens: even faster, it took seconds only, and 1/100,000,000th of the fee Bitcoin would charge!

Basically almost all altcoins work better than Bitcoin, the classics Litecoin and Dogecoin use a blockchain, and are much faster. But the 10 minutes per block is something I can live with for Bitcoin, it's not a problem for normal transactions to wait a bit, and without congestion many services can accept transactions with zero-confirmations already.
The real problem is the capacity, which is something altcoins are barely limited on, because they have much less transactions to begin with. Bitcoin currently has only 20 million addresses with a balance. Imagine the possibilties if it can handle 100 times more transactions at low fee: it can reach many more users. Now it's simply impossible for new users to join, as every new user who makes a transaction has to push someone else's transaction away.

I still don't understand Bitcoin Core's reasoning to stick to small blocks, while Bitcoin is being canabalized by alts and forks.
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November 12, 2017, 05:15:11 AM
#23
It powerfully pumping now by Roger Ver! He is going to spend (or already spent) about 130 000 BTC! It`s 910 000 000 $ ! He is big whale - BTC holder and he took BCC during fork in august. Now is going to pump and sell (dump) BCH!
Be careful!
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November 12, 2017, 05:12:45 AM
#22
I went on coinmarketcap and say BTC = $5500 and BCC = $2200. I was WTF!? Then I refreshed the page and BTC was 6400 and BCC 1200.

Question is, was I having an illusion? Was BCC that high?

That's not an illusion bro that is happening in the real time the bitcoin price was $ 5500 about 30 minutes before but now there is a price increase it already reached $ 6100.But the price of bitcoin cash is still at $ 2100.
If you want to make sure the price of BCH you can check it here, https://www.coingecko.com/en/price_charts/bitcoin-cash/usd
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November 12, 2017, 05:07:39 AM
#22
According to rumour, SegWit2X supporters move to BCH after SegWit2X hard-fork plan canceled, also some people simply got hyped Roll Eyes
I'm sure it's just pump and the price soon will going down again.
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November 12, 2017, 05:06:38 AM
#21
Well this was supposed to happen sooner or later, infact now investors are making open statements that they are going to invest in bitcoin cash and this is influencing the Crowd in a big way since bitcoins dropped in value now , people are dumping their bitcoins and moving onto bitcoin cash so that they can gain higher profits.
Its all because segwit2x was called of , people who were investing for the ftee b2x suffered a major loss and dumped bitcoins as soon as the price got Highest.
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November 12, 2017, 05:05:30 AM
#20
thanks for the pump/dump!
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November 12, 2017, 05:04:11 AM
#19
I went on coinmarketcap and say BTC = $5500 and BCC = $2200. I was WTF!? Then I refreshed the page and BTC was 6400 and BCC 1200.

Question is, was I having an illusion? Was BCC that high?


Higher , saw it at $3000 on a Japanese exchange.
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November 12, 2017, 04:56:36 AM
#18
I went on coinmarketcap and say BTC = $5500 and BCC = $2200. I was WTF!? Then I refreshed the page and BTC was 6400 and BCC 1200.

Question is, was I having an illusion? Was BCC that high?
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November 12, 2017, 04:54:38 AM
#17
I would definitely look into bch since btc is falling so quick and beside this, it fell 30% or more in 3 days on China banning news? btc price is intimidating while bch is what was btc at the begging of the year.
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November 12, 2017, 04:53:06 AM
#16
After sigwit2x cancelled investors are looking more towards BCH support. We can see more yet to come for BCH.
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November 12, 2017, 04:47:30 AM
#15
The price increase with BCH is stupid, nowhere supports it, what shop accepts BCH ??

Bitcoin needs to be improved and block increased to 2 or 4MB without another stupid fork, I sold all my BCH after the fork and just hope BCH does not take over. This madness needs to be stopped

lol!  BTC can't be used by shops because fee = $10 and confirmation never comes.  BCH CAN be used in shops.  That is why everyone is leaving BTC.  SegWit coin is broken.  Bitcoin Cash is the same Bitcoin you've known since 2009.
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November 12, 2017, 04:45:31 AM
#14
This was a typical pump and dump. Poor souls paid 0.53 BTC for 1 BCH, just to see a dump to 0.25 again. Fresh money has to come from somewhere ...

Hold tight for about 20 minutes.  It will be right back up again.
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November 12, 2017, 04:43:28 AM
#13
its just pumped by a group.it will dum eventually too
bitcoin is king
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November 12, 2017, 04:39:51 AM
#12
This was a typical pump and dump. Poor souls paid 0.53 BTC for 1 BCH, just to see a dump to 0.25 again. Fresh money has to come from somewhere ...

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I hate to say it, but when I made a Bitcoin Cash transaction yesterday, it went much smoother than Bitcoin transactions. The recommended fee was very low, I even increased it to 0.00005 Bitcoin Cash, and I got the required 20 confirmations in just over an hour. As much as I dislike Bitcoin Cash, this is what Bitcoin needs to be useful.

Not just Bitcoin Cash. Try sending Waves .. it takes seconds. Send IOTA, it takes a minute and costs nothing. These are only a few examples. There are some coins out there where transaction times and fees are at minimum. Yes, scaling is always a problem: However, technologies like IOTA and XRB need MANY transactions to scale, and they get even bigger and better with every transaction more (I am really looking forward when industry players like Siemens, Fujitsu etc. adopt IOTA and allow it to scale)
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November 12, 2017, 04:38:39 AM
#11
The price increase with BCH is stupid, nowhere supports it, what shop accepts BCH ??

Bitcoin needs to be improved and block increased to 2 or 4MB without another stupid fork, I sold all my BCH after the fork and just hope BCH does not take over. This madness needs to be stopped
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November 12, 2017, 04:34:20 AM
#10
This was a typical pump and dump. Poor souls paid 0.53 BTC for 1 BCH, just to see a dump to 0.25 again. Fresh money has to come from somewhere ...
Yesterday I sold some Bitcoin Cash at 0.24 Bitcoin, today at 0.5 Bitcoin. When I made that sale at Kraken, it was already trading at 0.3 Bitcoin at Bittrex. It would have been a great opportunity to earn a lot of money, if you have enough cash on both exchanges.
But, with Bitcoin down to like 2 blocks per hour, and fees up to more than 9 Bitcoin per block, it's impossible to quickly move Bitcoins around. https://blockchain.info/unconfirmed-transactions currently shows 32 Transactions per second, about 4 times more than Bitcoin can handle.
I don't understand how some people can still say Bitcoin doesn't need scaling. All this madness could have been prevented if Bitcoin would have scaled earlier, which makes me thing many people profit keeping blocksize down.

I hate to say it, but when I made a Bitcoin Cash transaction yesterday, it went much smoother than Bitcoin transactions. The recommended fee was very low, I even increased it to 0.00005 Bitcoin Cash, and I got the required 20 confirmations in just over an hour. As much as I dislike Bitcoin Cash, this is what Bitcoin needs to be useful.
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November 12, 2017, 04:26:41 AM
#9
just hype... nothing more, nothing less.
The owners of the coin are hyping to make people buy it. LOts of naive chinese are buying in now. It's the stupidest thing ever.... they will loose money when jihan wu switches back to bitcoin again
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November 12, 2017, 04:07:59 AM
#8
Even your worst day cannot be as bad as an "Exchange with a 4bn volume coin goes in maintenance mode and then price drops from 2.600 to 1.700"-day
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November 12, 2017, 04:05:04 AM
#7
the value of BCH is become higher than the usual if you can see it on the market it pumps up into 156% i don't know why and then the bitcoin price becomes low of 8% in the market i guess, theres a magic behind of it and i don't know what's happening in that coin you are lucky if you have that coin and you can sell it on the market with the huge amount of money.

I think Bithumb has something to do with this...

Bithumb notice:
We are
currently in the process of checking the server to provide a stable service environment .
We will do our best to finish the inspection within the appointed time.

Thank you for your patience.
1. Inspection contents

- Server check for service stabilization

2. Scope of inspection

- Bitsum suspended all services


3. Customer Center

- Email: [email protected] / Phone: 1661-5566

And now there is this

https://coinmarketcap.com/currencies/bitcoin-cash/#markets
No data available in table
* Price Excluded
** Volume Excluded - No Trading Fees
*** Price/Volume Excluded - Outlier Detected

now showing:
1   Bithumb   BCH/KRW   $4,161,230,000   * $2534.30   0.00%   1 hour ago

price excluded now..
AGD
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November 12, 2017, 03:55:29 AM
#6
This was a typical pump and dump. Poor souls paid 0.53 BTC for 1 BCH, just to see a dump to 0.25 again. Fresh money has to come from somewhere ...
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November 12, 2017, 03:53:28 AM
#5
You must understand that when there are price differences and huge fluctuations then there is somebody behind it.
It is known that the price is getting manipulated. BCH is increasing rapidly and I think it is because of the big whales.
They might be manipulating the price so that they can create a FOMO and make money out of the situation. It is best to stay away from such a mess. The price of Bitcoin is also getting affected because of the pump of BCH. It will surely dump some time soon.
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November 12, 2017, 03:52:15 AM
#4
the value of BCH is become higher than the usual if you can see it on the market it pumps up into 156% i don't know why and then the bitcoin price becomes low of 8% in the market i guess, theres a magic behind of it and i don't know what's happening in that coin you are lucky if you have that coin and you can sell it on the market with the huge amount of money.

I think Bithumb has something to do with this...

Bithumb notice:
We are
currently in the process of checking the server to provide a stable service environment .
We will do our best to finish the inspection within the appointed time.

Thank you for your patience.
1. Inspection contents

- Server check for service stabilization

2. Scope of inspection

- Bitsum suspended all services


3. Customer Center

- Email: [email protected] / Phone: 1661-5566

And now there is this

https://coinmarketcap.com/currencies/bitcoin-cash/#markets
No data available in table
* Price Excluded
** Volume Excluded - No Trading Fees
*** Price/Volume Excluded - Outlier Detected
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November 12, 2017, 03:46:55 AM
#3
the value of BCH is become higher than the usual if you can see it on the market it pumps up into 156% i don't know why and then the bitcoin price becomes low of 8% in the market i guess, theres a magic behind of it and i don't know what's happening in that coin you are lucky if you have that coin and you can sell it on the market with the huge amount of money.

I think Bithumb has something to do with this...

Bithumb notice:
We are
currently in the process of checking the server to provide a stable service environment .
We will do our best to finish the inspection within the appointed time.

Thank you for your patience.
1. Inspection contents

- Server check for service stabilization

2. Scope of inspection

- Bitsum suspended all services


3. Customer Center

- Email: [email protected] / Phone: 1661-5566
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November 12, 2017, 03:41:07 AM
#2
the value of BCH is become higher than the usual if you can see it on the market it pumps up into 156% i don't know why and then the bitcoin price becomes low of 8% in the market i guess, theres a magic behind of it and i don't know what's happening in that coin you are lucky if you have that coin and you can sell it on the market with the huge amount of money.
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November 12, 2017, 03:37:40 AM
#1
#   Source   Pair   Volume (24h)   Price   Volume (%)   Updated
1   Bithumb   BCH/KRW   $4,161,230,000   $2534.30   73.17%   Recently
2   Bittrex   BCC/BTC   $645,558,000   $2364.38   11.35%   Recently
3   Kraken   BCH/BTC   $170,736,000   $2962.88   3.00%   Recently
4   Kraken   BCH/EUR   $90,520,800   $1749.90   1.59%   Recently
5   Kraken   BCH/USD   $79,587,700   $1924.00   1.40%   Recently
6   HitBTC   BCH/USDT   $58,964,900   $1765.20   1.04%   Recently

And then there is this?!?!
https://www.bithumb.com/notice.php

Somebody screwing with the prices?
Second nowhere near the volume..
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